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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:54pm On Dec 26, 2017
Kog45:
Apart from Chile 87 which was U20 tourney,Willy Opara wasn't given chance in eagles even when he was at top form in South Africa league with Orlando Pirates.Prior to France 98 he deserved the spot ahead of Rufai after Ike injury.

Wilfred Agbonavbare was a solid keeper with Rayo Vallecano in Spanish LA liga, pls forget the Agbonibasket stuff.He deserved the number one spot than Rufai prior to Afcon and US 94.

Pls i thought Baruwa was the third keeper to Atlanta 96,i can't recall vivdly but I know Dosu was the first choice and Emma second choice.

With Peter Rufai, Alloy Agu, Shorunmu, and Agbonivbare in the system then Willy Okpara stood little chance. Besides he had weight issues.

Let me also add Baruwa and Emma Babayaro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:55pm On Dec 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Contrary to the negative feedback, after Agu's poor performance in the first half when he replaced Onazi in the game against Zambia, he put up a tidy display in the second half. Something only Ogu and Hope Akpan has brought to the Super Eagles in recent years. I am not quick to write Agu off.

People try to hang onto a poor few minutes and deliberately decided to neglect Agu's good second half display.

That is like saying Nigeria was poor against Argentina in the friendly because of our display in the first half.

Agu had a poor fifteen minutes in the first half. The second half was refreshing.
I am with you on Agu. It's not easy the pressures this players bear when they step on the field. Carry the hopes and expectations of a whole nation is no trifling thing. Agu will come good.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:56pm On Dec 26, 2017
chidi1:
I posted this elsewhere. But since I am looking for a response, I copied and pasted it here....

I may sound a little biased. However, I am an avid supporter of Imoh Ezekiel. In my earlier post, I voiced my concern when I taught he was going to be excluded from the Olympic team by Siasia, after a convincing display during a friendly with Brazil. Ofcourse, he undoubtedly became our most creative playmaker at the Olympics. I watched with dismay as he was overlooked during the world cup qualifiers. Hence, this promoted the creation of this topic.

Guys, I would love your honest opinion on this. What do you think of Victor Moses and Imoh Ezekiel combination on the wings during the world cup. You may rewatch his highlight during the Olympics on YouTube to refresh your memory. I know our attack is one of the best parts of our national team, but my plan is to make it more potent (as to be honest, our defence is very worrisome currently). I sincerely believe that if enough interest is voiced, it may draw the NFF to look more closely at that option. We may start out by trying him out in a friendly match (ideally paired with Moses).

Our attack is overrated. Remove Ighalo and the much maligned Nwakaeme, the rest of our attackers and midfielders combined cannot boast of 5 goals between them this season.
I hope the chicken don't come home to roast come June next year.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:57pm On Dec 26, 2017
Trudy12:


mobi oparaku eventually made it to france 98 and started the first game against spain

Yeah, Eguavoen was recalled but i think Bora gave Oparaku another chance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:57pm On Dec 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


From what I noticed, Rohr is more interested in the defensive qualities of his midfielders than their offensive qualities. I used to be one of the loudest drums for Aluko's invitation, with what I see, I do not see Aluko fitting the bill.

Keep in mind that Mikel Obi also has a brilliant ability to read the game and intercept build up plays of the opponents.

I think these are the qualities Rohr is looking for than a creative attack midfielder.
Nevertheless for the sake of balance a creative midfielder is needed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:59pm On Dec 26, 2017
chidi1:
I posted this elsewhere. But since I am looking for a response, I copied and pasted it here....

I may sound a little biased. However, I am an avid supporter of Imoh Ezekiel. In my earlier post, I voiced my concern when I taught he was going to be excluded from the Olympic team by Siasia, after a convincing display during a friendly with Brazil. Ofcourse, he undoubtedly became our most creative playmaker at the Olympics. I watched with dismay as he was overlooked during the world cup qualifiers. Hence, this promoted the creation of this topic.

Guys, I would love your honest opinion on this. What do you think of Victor Moses and Imoh Ezekiel combination on the wings during the world cup. You may rewatch his highlight during the Olympics on YouTube to refresh your memory. I know our attack is one of the best parts of our national team, but my plan is to make it more potent (as to be honest, our defence is very worrisome currently). I sincerely believe that if enough interest is voiced, it may draw the NFF to look more closely at that option. We may start out by trying him out in a friendly match (ideally paired with Moses).

Imoh Ezekiel is not having the best of form. I don't think Rohr has any plans for him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:03pm On Dec 26, 2017
goldfish80:


Our attack is overrated. Remove Ighalo and the much maligned Nwakaeme, the rest of our attackers and midfield combined cannot boast of 5 goals between them this season.
I hope the chicken don't come home to roast come June next year.

The beauty of this team is we do not rely on our strikers for goals.

Moses, Iwobi and Mikel do the damage. I am glad Rohr experimented a false 9 formation against Argentina and that worked perfectly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:03pm On Dec 26, 2017
Humility017:

Lol.......that one if oga forgiveness and he crew go hear .....

I trust rohr though.....he is a man that think of the future...


In football, future is now. The ones una wan force on us are not even making match day team, how do you know what will become of them in the next 4 years?

Even Mikel go be 33 then, so what should be done about him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:09pm On Dec 26, 2017
Kog45:
Apart from Chile 87 which was U20 tourney,Willy Opara wasn't given chance in eagles even when he was at top form in South Africa league with Orlando Pirates.Prior to France 98 he deserved the spot ahead of Rufai after Ike injury.

Wilfred Agbonavbare was a solid keeper with Rayo Vallecano in Spanish LA liga, pls forget the Agbonibasket stuff.He deserved the number one spot than Rufai prior to Afcon and US 94.

Pls i thought Baruwa was the third keeper to Atlanta 96,i can't recall vivdly but I know Dosu was the first choice and Emma second choice.
You are right about willy "the cat" opara ,he was a solid goalkeeper and what never given much chance with the super eagles, maybe because he plays his football in southafrica then

Wilfred deserve to be first choice at Tunisia 94 but Mr Clemens choose peter rufai instead

Abiodun "shagari" baruwa was the third choice at Atlanta 96

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:10pm On Dec 26, 2017
Kog45:
On Sokari i don't want to talk much cos of my experience with Nwakili invitation.

It was here some just came from nowhere to justify Nwakili invitation but just too glaring it was not a merited one now Sokari which nobody as ever mentioned here as a prospect to replace Mikel is now the ultimate solution.

Let's wait and see how things unfold cos i don't think our solution is in Tunisia league if we are really serious,meaning player like Junior Ajayi should be considered too for CF.

I thought Joel Obi, Raheem Lawal,Ajagun,Azeez and Alhassan Mazzam are available or do we want to say Sokari has a better performance than these players this season.


The way selction is made is very confusing. Well, I go sidon dey look.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:19pm On Dec 26, 2017
enomakos:

You are right about willy "the cat" opara ,he was a solid goalkeeper and what never given much chance with the super eagles, maybe because he plays his football in southafrica then

Wilfred deserve to be first choice at Tunisia 94 but Mr Clemens choose peter rufai instead

Abiodun "shagari" baruwa was the third choice at Atlanta 96

Football in SA was still at its rejuvenation stages then so also was their league. Not until Orlando Pirates won the CAF champions league in 1996 or so before people started taking them serious.

Willy Opara played U20 in 1987 but the progression to the senior team was made difficult for him firstly due to his poor outing in that U20 tourney.
Secondly he had better goalies like Peter Rufai, Alloy Agu, Willy Agbonivbare to contend with. Later Ike Shorunmu, Abiodun Baruwa and Emma Babayaro emerged and were also good goalies.
The third factor was his playing in the SA league which u and I know was just recovering from a long ban of SA participation in international tourneys due to apartheid.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:22pm On Dec 26, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
Oga , forget Agu. Haven't you seen enough of his terrible performances when given a chance? He's a waste of spot bro. We should be talking about replacing him with the other uninvited midfielders.

Agu is not a waste. Is invitation to the team was purely based on merit and well deserved.

Maybe he was a little bit jittery been his first two matches in very difficult and important matches.

Let us see him again in one of those friendlies before we conclude.

Take it or leave it, Agu could be our future DMF because I know a better player when I see one. The problem is he has to contend with 3 informed DM. That's all.


Somebody wey no use National team climb ladder. Abeg, He deserves a little respect.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:24pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


The beauty of this team is we do not rely on our strikers for goals.

Moses, Iwobi and Mikel do the damage. I am glad Rohr experimented a false 9 formation against Argentina and that worked perfectly.
Even at that, our attackers havent had it so good this season. This should worry any Super Eagles fan, not just the goalkeeping.
Not many of our attackers can boast of Martin's numbers,yet people are vehemently opposed to having him around.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Trudy12(f): 6:26pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Yeah, Eguavoen was recalled but i think Bora gave Oparaku another chance.

Eguavon had no business in that team, even when oparaku was replaced, the coach still drafted mutiu adepoju to the RB. eguavon only played the 3rd group game against Paraguay after we had qualified

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:29pm On Dec 26, 2017
Wilfred Agbonavbare had serious weight issues.
The coaches were more comfortable with him as back up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:30pm On Dec 26, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
The thought if Mikel being our only tested and trusted AM makes me pity Rohr and his team when/ if the dude gets visited by an injury. We need another AM Rohr!!


Na there Rohr go get sense small. Iwobi no bi that kind player wey they hold ball. This is why we need somebody we fit hold ball wella. I recommend Abdul Ajagun or Sone Aluko. Joel Obi should considered for the CMF role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 6:34pm On Dec 26, 2017
Nacho must seek loan move this Jan or he should forget WC

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 6:34pm On Dec 26, 2017
Kog45:
Kanu was a flop against Argentina,Shorunmu a flop against Sweden,gave them the second goal on a platter of gold and England match was the best with introduction of Enyeama, Akwuegbu,Opabunmi and James Obiorah who controlled the midfield perfectly with Okocha.
kanu wasn't a flop in the Argentina game, he got injured by Veron and was substituted before halftime

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:36pm On Dec 26, 2017
FabioPeter:

We can get a psychologist to make you believe you can man our Post....it takes a lot more bro.
If you watch the games Ezenwa has played for SE, you will notice he has been consistently erratic, even the games he kept a clean sheet.
Akpenyi is terribly poor and Uzoho is inexperienced. If we can’t get an in form Enyeama, we can kiss the group stage good bye


Psychologist can not work on Ezenwa because he is naturally below average. He doesn't deserve to be called in the first place. We have better Goalkeepers in our local league. Thanks

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:36pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Ezenwa has been in the national team for a while. He was worked with a good number of coaches and was first choice at Ifeanyi Uba until of late.
He was the first choice goalie for the NPFL All stars that played in Spain not too long ago. Last season.

Should you question why Ezenwa, a second choice at Ifeanyi Ubah, is in the SE? Why not question why he is second choice to Uche Okafor at Ifeanyi Uba. Or who is current first choice?

As for Dosu he was a third choice goalie at Julius Berger (not even plateau united) prior to Atlanta.
My man pls go and check archives.very well Dosu was never a third keeper at Julius Berger.He remain one of the best keeper to come out of Julius Berger.As at 1996 he was a super regular deputised by Victor Gbenebechie.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:38pm On Dec 26, 2017
Trudy12:


Eguavon had no business in that team, even when oparaku was replaced, the coach still drafted mutiu adepoju to the RB. eguavon only played the 3rd group game against Paraguay after we had qualified

Yes Eguavoen was a fire brigade call up due to eratic performance of Mobi. He, Eguavoen, was the immediate predecessor at RB to Mobi and so was recalled. We started the qualifiers with Eguavoen and ended it with Mobi.

You really have pristine memory of that selection. I can't even recall Mutiu was once drafted as RB when Mobi ran into problems.

The first problem that team had was not participating in the 1998 AFCON. The first competitive game they played that year I think was against Yugoslavia and that was less than 3 weeks to the WC. Many of those players were not thoroughly assessed.

We hope to see more of you here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:38pm On Dec 26, 2017
zicky:
abeg make ena leave the guy, he was playing for psg so he was worth the hype, my biggest annoying flop of that wc was opabunmi, youngest player my foot. the guy discover late that football was not his calling
femi opabunmi was never a flop,he hads challenges
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:39pm On Dec 26, 2017
Kog45:
My man pls go and check archives.very well Dosu was never a third keeper at Julius Berger.He remain one of the best keeper to come out of Julius Berger.As at 1996 he was a super regular deputised by Victor Gbenebechie.

But I thought you said he was not in the local league then? I think his performance at Atlanta gained him that promotion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:41pm On Dec 26, 2017
enomakos:
femi opabunmi was never a flop,he hads challenges

Yeah his sight.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:41pm On Dec 26, 2017
chidi1:
I posted this elsewhere. But since I am looking for a response, I copied and pasted it here....

I may sound a little biased. However, I am an avid supporter of Imoh Ezekiel. In my earlier post, I voiced my concern when I taught he was going to be excluded from the Olympic team by Siasia, after a convincing display during a friendly with Brazil. Ofcourse, he undoubtedly became our most creative playmaker at the Olympics. I watched with dismay as he was overlooked during the world cup qualifiers. Hence, this promoted the creation of this topic.

Guys, I would love your honest opinion on this. What do you think of Victor Moses and Imoh Ezekiel combination on the wings during the world cup. You may rewatch his highlight during the Olympics on YouTube to refresh your memory. I know our attack is one of the best parts of our national team, but my plan is to make it more potent (as to be honest, our defence is very worrisome currently). I sincerely believe that if enough interest is voiced, it may draw the NFF to look more closely at that option. We may start out by trying him out in a friendly match (ideally paired with Moses).
are we really talking about a player that has not even sniffed Rohr's list?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:42pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Football in SA was still at its rejuvenation stages then so also was league. Not until Orlando Pirates won the CAF champions league in 1996 or so before people started taking them serious.

Willy Opara play U20 in 1987 but the progression to the senior team was made difficult for him firstly due to his poor outing in that U20 tourney.
Secondly he had better goalies like Peter Rufai, Alloy Agu, Willy Agbonivbare to contend with. Later Ike Shorunmu, Abiodun Baruwa and Emma Babayaro emerged and were also good goalies.
The third factor was his playing in the SA league which u and I know was just recovering from a long ban of SA participation in international tourneys due to apartheid.
you are right

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:44pm On Dec 26, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
The thought if Mikel being our only tested and trusted AM makes me pity Rohr and his team when/ if the dude gets visited by an injury. We need another AM Rohr!!

Iwobi, Etebo and Iheanacho can also play that position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:44pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:
Nacho must seek loan move this Jan or he should forget WC
na you be the coach wey go drop am before World Cup abi?

If you like don't watch World Cup when he goes to Russia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:44pm On Dec 26, 2017
enomakos:
you are right
Thanks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:45pm On Dec 26, 2017
forgiveness:



In football, future is now. The ones una wan force on us are not even making match day team, how do you know what will become of them in the next 4 years?

Even Mikel go be 33 then, so what should be done about him?
Mikel can plays up to 40
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:
Nacho must seek loan move this Jan or he should forget WC

When our players enter camp for the Friendlies, let us see if those who are playing regularly will outperform Nacho in camp. If they do not, then Nacho is heading to Russia. It is about quality at the end.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 6:45pm On Dec 26, 2017
No goals in 10 games for Tammy Ab who is on the bench for Swansea tonight

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