Syncan:



What you have problem with or not does not matter. Just find a way to prove to me that a woman gave birth without the aid of a man(or don't you believe it?), and that a man will keep a woman in his house for more than Nine months without touching her(which you believe Joseph did)and I will prove the rest to you.

Emyogalanya:
WHAT PURPOSE DOES PERPETUAL VIRGINITY SERVE? THE APOSTLES CREED IS THE SUMMARY OF ALL THE ARTICLES OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. PLS NOTE THAT VIRGIN BIRTH IS CAPTURED IN THE CREED BUT THE PERPTTAL VIRGINITY IS NOT COVERED IT SERVES NO NEED. WHY WOULD MARY STILL NEED TO HOLD ON TO VIRGINITY THAT WONT BE IN FUTURE NEED. WILL SHE NEED IT TO HAVE ANOTHER JESUS? DOES IT MAKE YOU A BETTER CHRISTIAN? AND LET ME MAKE THIS KNOWN TO YOU THE VIRGIN BIRTH DID NOT SAVE ANYONE BUT HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS DID

Investnow2017:


Mr. Man, how do you feel when you write Mother of God? Do you know what you are talking about? Mother of God! So your god has a mother. So who is the father? I can see why the Bible says Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit and every unclean and hated bird lurks! Rev 18:2 But honest-hearted students of the Bible are given a heart-warming order to "get out of her....if you do not want to share with her in her sins......" Revelation 18:4

You have exalted Mary even above Jesus and claim that Jesus' father even has a mother! Spurious

felixomor:

Genesis was written in Hebrew
Matthew and other gospels were written in Greek

Also, Jesus brothers didnt believe in him when he was on earth.
Its clearly written

Pls read more about Judas Lebbaeus here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_the_Apostle
Its even very clearon wikipedia.

cyrilamx:
First error, Matthew gospel wasn't written in Greek, it was written in Aramaic for the Jewish audience. That why it employed the 'Adelphos' which has a broader meaning from blood brother's to cousins. and

cyrilamx:
First error, Matthew gospel wasn't written in Greek, it was written in Aramaic for the Jewish audience. That why it employed the 'Adelphos' which has a broader meaning from blood brother's to cousins. and

felixomor:


Wrong Sir.
Also Judas Lebbeaus the son of Thaddeus, is no where near The lineage of Jesus. They were not brothers.

Besides the brothers and sisters of Jesus were always referred to as half siblings (REFERRED BY WHO AS HALF SIBLINGS?) because Jesus Christ was Conceived of the Holy Ghost. The others were conceived of Joseph. WHEN WERE THEY CONCEIVED? WHO WAS (WERE) THERE MOTHER(S)??

felixomor:


Wrong Sir.
Also Judas Lebbeaus the son of Thaddeus, is no where near The lineage of Jesus. They were not brothers.

Besides the brothers and sisters of Jesus were always referred to as half siblings because Jesus Christ was Conceived of the Holy Ghost. The others were conceived of Joseph.

cyrilamx:
Am not disputing the fact that Mary had no children, my take is Matthew gospel was written in Aramaic before translated to Greek...

LaaJiblik:
ACCORDING TO SOME WARPED ARGUMENTS I AM SEEING HERE, IF MARY HAD OTHER CHILDREN THE BIBLE MUST SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THEM, AND MENTION THEM BY NAME, AND MENTION THEIR MOTHER'S NAME.
SOME EVEN SAY IF SHE HAD OTHER CHILDREN, THEN THE BIBLE WOULDNT ONLY BE REFERRING TO HER AS MARY MOTHER OF JESUS, BUT WILL ALSO CALL THE OTHER SIBLINGS NAMES.

SO BECAUSE WE ALL CALLED OBASANJO "BABA IYABO" THAT MEANS OBASANJO ONLY HAS/HAD 1 DAUGHTER.

MosesAlex:

Here is your answer. Some people chose to be Virgins for the sake of the Kingdom
Mt 19:22
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are somep eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

So you may as well ask Jesus what is the use of remaining perpetually a Virgin

LaaJiblik:

MosesAlex:

Lame!
I thought you have been the person also calling for explicit quotes. It your turn ,provide them or remain silent

LaaJiblik:


I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO POINT ME SPECIFICALLY TO A BIBLE VERSE THAT SAYS:
1. MARY REMAINED A VIRGIN AFTER THE BIRTH OF THE CHRIST
2. THAT JOSEPH NEVER HAD SEX WITH MARY AFTER THE BIRTH OF CHRIST.

JUST SHOW ME EITHER A BIBLE VERSE WHICH EXPLICITLY SAYS SO.

LaaJiblik:


I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO POINT ME SPECIFICALLY TO A BIBLE VERSE THAT SAYS:
1. MARY REMAINED A VIRGIN AFTER THE BIRTH OF THE CHRIST
2. THAT JOSEPH NEVER HAD SEX WITH MARY AFTER THE BIRTH OF CHRIST.

JUST SHOW ME EITHER A BIBLE VERSE WHICH EXPLICITLY SAYS SO.

felixomor:

Mary was their mother. As clearly written in The gospels.

LaaJiblik:


So you AGREE that Mary and Joseph had OTHER Biological Children besides Jesus yeah?

MosesAlex:

Here is your answer. Some people chose to be Virgins for the sake of the Kingdom
Mt 19:22
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are somep eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

So you may as well ask Jesus what is the use of remaining perpetually a Virgin

cyrilamx:
First error, Matthew gospel wasn't written in Greek, it was written in Aramaic for the Jewish audience. That why it employed the 'Adelphos' which has a broader meaning from blood brother's to cousins. and

cyrilamx:

How can I agree to a lie? Mary remains a virgin during and after christ birth WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES FOR THIS INFORMATION?.
If u are living in an age that is sexually crazy and can't be disciplined, don't ever project ur 21 century weakness to others esp first century holy people. (SEXUALITY AND SEX, AND THE CRAVING FOR SEX DID NOT BEGIN IN THE 21ST CENTURY. IT PRE-DATED THE BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST. HAVE YOU HEARD OF RAHAB BEFORE? SO SEXUAL CRAZINESS BEGAN IN THE 21ST CENTURY?).


Throughout the rich history of the Catholic Church, (OKAY.... MARY AND JOSEPH WERE THE ONES THAT STARTED THIS PRACTICE? WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE SIR?) couples though married, have renounced their right to conjugal pleasure even to raise children, in order to serve God devotedly. The Catholic Church, the Church Fathers as heir to the apostles (IS THAT SO?) and sacred scripture (YOU MEAN THE HOLY BIBLE?? OYA SHOW ME WHERE) as well as oral tradition have all defined, taught and defended the perpetual virginity of Mary (SHOW ME THE SOURCES), still a neophyte like u (MAYBE I AM A NEOPHYTE, BUT I AM DEFINITELY NOT A ZOMBIE) in scriptural exegesis is arguing otherwise.

cyrilamx:
Oga it really shows that you are really UNteachable. Who told u that the Bible is sole guide of the Church? Did St Paul not say that oral tradition and sacred scripture constitute deposit of the faith? 2 Thes. 2:15 . Besides did the Bible not also tell you that a lot of things Jesus did and happened in life of our saviour that were not documented? If you care to know Christ did not leave behind a Bible reading Church nor asked his disciples to write down his life story...necessity led to writing of new testament. Rather Christ founded a teaching Church and St Paul would affirm this when he said the Church founded by Christ is the pillar and foundation of the Truth. 1 Tim.3:15. So before you ask such infantile question again, remember the Church predates the Bible...the Bible came out of the Church after 300 years of the Church existence..

LaaJiblik:


That is the Part these my friends are trying to debunk.
They come up with the HYPOTHESIS that;
1. Mary remained a VIRGIN Throughout her life.
Ask them to explain their sources, they said its because it is un-imagineable that the womb that was habituated by the Christ could be "shared" by other children.

2. T[b]hat Joseph NEVER consummated the marriage to Mary[/b]
Ask them where they got that one from, they said Because if Joseph did, the bible MUST have mentioned it SPECIFICALLY, possibly describe the date and time of the coitus.


3. That even when the BIBLE SPECIFICALLY mentioned OTHER people to have SPECIFICALLY said they knew the Carpenter, his wife, and the BROTHERS and SISTERS of the Carpenter's son, they Siblings being referred to were Jesus' COUSINS etc.
Ask them where they got that one from, they will claim that the names mentioned as Brothers and sisters were others. AS IF TWO PEOPLE CANNOT BEAR THE SAME NAME AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME.


They want to project Mary very high, and hence feel insecure to admit that she was a normal woman, whom God decided to choose and use to fulfil his purpose.

cyrilamx:
Oga it really shows that you are really UNteachable. Who told u that the Bible is sole guide of the Church? Did St Paul not say that oral tradition and sacred scripture constitute deposit of the faith? 2 Thes. 2:15 . Besides did the Bible not also tell you that a lot of things Jesus did and happened in life of our saviour that were not documented? If you care to know Christ did not leave behind a Bible reading Church nor asked his disciples to write down his life story...necessity led to writing of new testament. Rather Christ founded a teaching Church and St Paul would affirm this when he said the Church founded by Christ is the pillar and foundation of the Truth. 1 Tim.3:15. So before you ask such infantile question again, remember the Church predates the Bible...the Bible came out of the Church after 300 years of the Church existence. Pentecostalism is indeed a heresy which is causing confusion all over the globe.

Emyogalanya:
THAT SAME PAUL ASK THE COUPLE NOT TO DENY EACH OTHER EXCEPT FOR PRAYERS WHICH IS A SHORT TIME. WE ARE TALKING OF 12 YEARS

cyrilamx:
Oga read with broader mind. If you don't have spiritual strength for it...don't deny each other. If God can make Mary pregnant causing her to be the new ark of the covenant that housed his Son Christ as the new covenant, don't you think He can also grant Mary and Joseph the grace to remain chaste REMAIN CHASTE WHAT BALDERDASH. SEX IN MARRIAGE IS NOT A SIN. IT WAS GOD'S DESIGN. IF JOSEPH HAD SEX WITH MARY, IT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY DEPLETE HIS OR HER CHASTITY.
and continent even in marriage? I maintain don't project ur weak sexual issh to others. Joseph as a holy jew knew what it is to touch the ark of covenant of old (WHERE ARE THESE GUYS GETTING THESE ONE FROM?) when u not a consecrated priest (SO THE ARGUMENT NOW IS THAT JOSEPH WAS SO SCARED TO HAVE SEX WITH HIS WIFE BECAUSE SHE HAD BECOME AN ARK?) , how much more the new Eve who fittingly is the new ark of the covenant cos she housed the new covenant in her pure and virginal womb. I know new generational and man made churches can't fathom this revealed truth cos they are solar scriptura apologists...persisting in HERESIES.

LaaJiblik:


Oga:
Use superior argument and logic. stop the My-church-is-better-than-yours thing.
The challenge is to state the source of this Perpetual Virginity thing. Simple!

cyrilamx:
Oga read with broader mind. If you don't have spiritual strength for it...don't deny each other. If God can make Mary pregnant causing her to be the new ark of the covenant that housed his Son Christ as the new covenant, don't you think He can also grant Mary and Joseph the grace to remain chaste and continent even in marriage? I maintain don't project ur weak sexual issh to others. Joseph as a holy jew knew what it is to touch the ark of covenant of old when u not a consecrated priest, how much more the new Eve who fittingly is the new ark of the covenant cos she housed the new covenant in her pure and virginal womb. I know new generational and man made churches can't fathom this revealed truth.

Emyogalanya:
EACH TIME YOU MENTION THE 21ST CENTURY SEXUALITY I LAUGH MAYBE YOU SHOULD EXPLAIN HOW SODOM AND GOMMORAH BELONG TO 21 CENTURY. DID YOU READ WHERE PAUL SAID TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES THAT ELIJAH WAS A MAN OF SAME PASSION. EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVED MANY CENTURIES APART

cyrilamx:
Oga read with broader mind. If you don't have spiritual strength for it...don't deny each other. If God can make Mary pregnant causing her to be the new ark of the covenant that housed his Son Christ as the new covenant, don't you think He can also grant Mary and Joseph the grace to remain chaste and continent even in marriage? I maintain don't project ur weak sexual issh to others. Joseph as a holy jew knew what it is to touch the ark of covenant of old when u not a consecrated priest, how much more the new Eve who fittingly is the new ark of the covenant cos she housed the new covenant in her pure and virginal womb. I know new generational.

Emyogalanya:
MAYBE YOU SHOULD EXPLAIN HOW ANGELS WHO TOOK DAUGHTERS OF MEN BELONG TO SEXY 21 CENTURY. HOPE UR FAMILIAR WITH THE STORY OF SUZANNA AND THE JUDGES IN APOCRYPHA BOOKS. HOW ABOUT DAVID AND ABIGAIL, SOLOMON AND HIS 1000 WIFES HEROD AND HIS BROTHERS WIFE. ONE THING COMMON IS SEXUALITY AND THEY ARE NOT EVEN NEAR 21 CENTURY