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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 2:52pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
lovetruth: Ok. It is not Scriptural then. You can go ahead with your unfounded fairy tale. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 2:56pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
ClareMarie: Are your so-called fathers the writers of the Bible? Anyone can be used to compile already written records. Does that have any bearing on the quality of the message it contains? |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 3:08pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
MosesAlex: Are you saying that the woman mentioned at Revelation 12 is Mary? |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:21pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
LaaJiblik:you are forgetting the writings of the early Christians... those were written before the Koran. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:24pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
cyrilamx:Amen wow, you are a teacher |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:59pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya:how will Jesus die if he wasn't born? and I make bold to agree that no one will be saved without the birth, life and death of Christ |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:02pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Investnow2017: 1 st Catholics are always happy to correct anyone who makes the mistake of thinking Catholics worship Mary. 2nd the early Christians are all Catholics in belief and practice. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 9:33pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus:WHERE IN MY POST DID I MAKE SUCH STATEMENT |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 9:35pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus:EVEN MARY WILL NOT BE SAVED PROVE ME WRONG IF YOU FEEL OTHERWISE |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:39pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya: 1st according to Jewish tradition, a man will not sleep with his wife if he is aware she was pregnant for another... even if he keeps her as part of his household. 2nd the Jews had a religious fear for anything touched by the presence of God, in fact the moment a thing or person was touched by God's presence it was reserved from normal use. in fact Joseph been a Jew would know these things... he can't sleep with a woman who had a child that wasn't his while betrothed to him, even if he keeps her in his house as wife or concubine, it becomes weirder if he knew the presence of God overshadowed her ...then he'll certainly not touch her.... Add that to the fact that Joseph only took her home by the angels command just to provide a legal name for Jesus. As for me this argument of 13 pages is weird... every Christian of good repute who talked about the virginity of Mary from 1 AD to 1700AD all teach that Mary was a perpetual virgin and those that didn't discuss the issue do not disprove it either, in fact the first Protestants like Martin Luther, John Wesley, John Calvin all agree she is a perpetual virgin ...this idea that Mary has other kids is very new... it come around only recently, crept into the Protestant churches and gained traction about 250 years ago. if you are following an end time teaching that began about 250 years ago and you are using this new teaching to condemn those who hold the faith as taught and believed by all Christians both Catholic, Orthodox and Protestants for 2000 years... then be careful. you may be the one in trouble. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:44pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya:the Church chose the canon and left out even the book of Enoch quoted in Jude. if you disagree you can make your own Bible |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:46pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya:I am just curious... are you aware that the teaching that Mary had other children only became part of the Protestant churches less than 300 year ago? |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:54pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya:the apostles creed is not the only place the Church lays down articles of faith... you should know this since you claim to be Catholic. an entire book doesn't get rejected because it wasn't added to the canon. in fact the book of revelation is not canonical in some ancient churches but that doesn't mean it was rejected. historically canonical simply mean the book read in the local Church... it is possible in the early Church for a book to be accepted and still be uncanonical. read up on how the Bible was canonized. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:58pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Emyogalanya: as I said and I make bold to agree that no one will be saved without the birth, life and death of Christ. in case you can't understand my English... I agree that Mary couldn't be saved without Christ. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 11:11pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: You mean Jesus' apostles, Paul and others were wearing long garbs like we see among catholics today? Pls see my questions as an honest and sincere ones because i want to know. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by MosesAlex: 3:02pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
Investnow2017:Garments never makes one a Catholic. It is baptism that makes you a member of the Catholic Church. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by lovetruth(m): 8:58pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
Investnow2017:what is scripture? tell me |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 12:48pm On Jan 01, 2018 |
Investnow2017: from a historical point of view YES. the long garbs worn by Catholic priest today is actually the same with what early Christians wore with minor exceptions. do you think the apostles were wearing suits? infact Jesus wore something similar. BUT, That isn't the point I was making, my point is that if you xray the belief of early Christians and check that of Catholics today you would find that they are basically the same, if you read up on the practices of the early Christians and how they worshipped and compare them with the Catholic mass you'll again find that they are basically the same, in fact every Catholic Bishop and priest is a successor of the Bishops and presbyter of the early Church. so that it is accurate to say that the Catholic church is same as the early Church and is that very Church established by the apostles. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 2:18pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Ubenedictus: Go ahead. You are talking to a baby. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Catholic's form of worship is anything but scriptural and bears no resemblance whatsoever with the documented form of worship established by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I feel deliberately irked by comparing Jesus' simple and practical form of worship with the tradition-filled manner of worship peculiar to the catholics. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:21pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Investnow2017:why not make your research, it is not enough to be irked. research how the early Church worshipped. start from what the Bible records then read up the writings of early Christians. the funny truth is that all biblical worship is tradition filled, the first and in fact the act of worship commanded by Christ is the Lords supper. the same we find the apostles doing They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayers even Paul when he wrote about how the early Christians worshipped wrote it as tradition or I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: read up on how the early Church worship and that is how the Catholic Church basically worships 1 Like |
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