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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 11:30pm On Dec 27, 2017
cyrilamx:
Explain to me what Mary meant by "how can this happen since I know not a man" even though she was betrothed and wasn't at all ignorant of biological conception. Only one plausible explanation : she ask in Amazement since she already took a life long vow of virginity for sake of Kingdom of God. Get detail in extra biblical writing, the Protoevangelium of James which gave us a wider knowledge of Mary's family including names of her parents. The Holy Bible did not deal in detail about her person since it wasn't a matter of dispute among early Christians. But there are ample sources to help us know her better because she is co-redemptrix just as Christ
TAA THATS THE PROBLEM WITH MARIAN SOCIETIES CO - REDEMTRIX YOU MEAN MARY WAS CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST? FOR YOU ? HAVE YOU MADE A GODESS OUT OF MARY. MARY WILL BE LOST IF CHRIST DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS. THE CHURCH DISMISSED CO REDEMTRIX TEACHING. DON'T EVEN BRING IT UP. ALL THIS THINGS THEY TEACH YOU IN BLUE ARMY

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 11:35pm On Dec 27, 2017
cyrilamx:
Plz m pentecostal brother's go and have at least 4 years indepth study of sacred scripture in a renowned theological seminary/university so you begin to appreciate scriptural exegesis. It is not true Angels from heaven mated with humans. Plz and even the first eleven chapters of Genesis hav been proven to be mere myth. However regarding the Nephlims, we will discuss someday. The issue is not that there was not sexual misdemeanours rather there was people who were celibate like the Essene which John the Baptist is believed to associate with. Mary and Joseph lived a continent life. The early Church had ample evidence.
MYTH DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IS MYTH? YOU CALL PARTS OF BIBLE MYTH? SHAME ON YOU YOU MAKE ME ASHAMED OF BEING CATHOLIC

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 11:45pm On Dec 27, 2017
cyrilamx:
Explain to me what Mary meant by "how can this happen since I know not a man" even though she was betrothed and wasn't at all ignorant of biological conception. Only one plausible explanation : she ask in Amazement since she already took a life long vow of virginity for sake of Kingdom of God. Get detail in extra biblical writing, the Protoevangelium of James which gave us a wider knowledge of Mary's family including names of her parents. The Holy Bible did not deal in detail about her person since it wasn't a matter of dispute among early Christians. But there are ample sources to help us know her better because she is co-redemptrix just as Christ is our redeemer.
HER PARENTS NAME IS ANN AND JOACHIM. WAIT O DID YOU SAY SHE TOOK A VOW OF LIFE LONG VIRGINITY YET JOSEPH CAME TO SEEK FOR HER HAND IN MARRIAGE AND SHE ACCEPTED IS MARRIAGE A PLACE TO FULFIL SUCH VOW? OK ALLOW OUR PRIEST TO MARRY SO THEY CAN BE CELIBATE IN MARRIAGE AND LETS SEE

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 11:48pm On Dec 27, 2017
cyrilamx:
Explain to me what Mary meant by "how can this happen since I know not a man" even though she was betrothed and wasn't at all ignorant of biological conception. Only one plausible explanation : she ask in Amazement since she already took a life long vow of virginity for sake of Kingdom of God. Get detail in extra biblical writing, the Protoevangelium of James which gave us a wider knowledge of Mary's family including names of her parents. The Holy Bible did not deal in detail about her person since it wasn't a matter of dispute among early Christians. But there are ample sources to help us know her better because she is co-redemptrix just as Christ is our redeemer.
SOMEONE CAN DECIDE TO BE A VIRGIN BUT ONCE MARRIAGE IS INVOLVED IT WONT WORK COS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH YOU CAN ONLY BE A PRIEST OR MARRIED YOU CAN'T TAKE BOTH SACRAMENTS
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by LaaJiblik: 11:50pm On Dec 27, 2017
cyrilamx:
Biblical Evidence for the Perpetual Virginity of Mary - Crisis Magazine
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8 Feb 2011 ... For most of Christian history, Mary's perpetual virginity was a commonplace belief, even well into the Protestant Reformation. But in our hyper- sexualized ...

Catholics United for the Faith | Mary's Perpetual Virginity | Teaching the ...
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Discussion: In examining Mary's Perpetual Virginity, or any Church teaching, the most fundamental questions is: “How do we know this is true?” We do not gain such ...

A Protestant Defense of Mary's Perpetual Virginity - Aleteia
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10 Oct 2013 ... If you deny the perpetual virginity of Mary, you'll have a hard time finding support in the tradition - even among Protestants. The Catholic ...




Mary’s virginity post partum, while not explicitly taught in Scripture, is repeatedly taught by the Latin, Greek, and Syriac Fathers.

and you were right in rejecting the idea that any other offspring should come from the same virginal womb from which Christ was born according to the flesh. . . . HOW IS THIS A PROBLEM?

In other words, it must be shown that a Church teaching firmly rooted in Tradition (i.e., the oral word of God) and proposed by the Magisterium



I POSTED SOME OF THE ABOVE SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THAT I READ, AND I SEEK KNOWLEDGE.
THIS PARTICULAR "SOURCE" YOU REFERRED ME TO IS JUST EMPTY.
http://www.cuf.org/2004/04/marys-perpetual-virginity/
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 8:24am On Dec 28, 2017
cyrilamx:
Your reaction shows u really ignorant of biblical exegesis. Your mind is so carnal that it can grasp spiritual things...no wonder there is so much confusion in pentecostalism resulting in splinter group emerging daily and erroneously claiming scholarship of the holy scripture. You think the humanity of Christ was separated from his divinity? I won't blame you because 3months of ur so-called Bible studies without the advantage Church history is really a set back in scriptural analysis to pentecostals. In christ Jesus, there are two natures- the nature of God as Son begotten of the Father from all eternity and nature of Man, born of the Virgin Mary at appointed time. However in christ Jesus, there is One Person- the second person of the blessed trinity. Just as humans have a spirit which is the person so Christ have a divine person. The Church fathers called the union of the two natures of Christ in on Person as the HYPOSTATIC UNION. So what was conceived in the womb of the blessed virgin was God the son who became man while still remaining God. That is why Mary is called God-bearer. In Greek the THEOTOKOS. MARY didn't give birth to a human Jesus distinct from the Person of Christ rather she conceived in her the second person of the blessed Trinity hence the Church Father at the council of Ephesus in 431 rightly called her Mother of God...and Jesus her son as God is not ashamed to call her mother. Pentecostalism should go and have a thorough scholarship in sacred scripture and stop misinterpreting same to the destruction of souls.

Trash to any belief that the Bible does not support. The Bible is the only book inspired of God.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 8:26am On Dec 28, 2017
cyrilamx:
Your reaction shows u really ignorant of biblical exegesis. Your mind is so carnal that it can grasp spiritual things...no wonder there is so much confusion in pentecostalism resulting in splinter group emerging daily and erroneously claiming scholarship of the holy scripture. You think the humanity of Christ was separated from his divinity? I won't blame you because 3months of ur so-called Bible studies without the advantage Church history is really a set back in scriptural analysis to pentecostals. In christ Jesus, there are two natures- the nature of God as Son begotten of the Father from all eternity and nature of Man, born of the Virgin Mary at appointed time. However in christ Jesus, there is One Person- the second person of the blessed trinity. Just as humans have a spirit which is the person so Christ have a divine person. The Church fathers called the union of the two natures of Christ in on Person as the HYPOSTATIC UNION. So what was conceived in the womb of the blessed virgin was God the son who became man while still remaining God. That is why Mary is called God-bearer. In Greek the THEOTOKOS. MARY didn't give birth to a human Jesus distinct from the Person of Christ rather she conceived in her the second person of the blessed Trinity hence the Church Father at the council of Ephesus in 431 rightly called her Mother of God...and Jesus her son as God is not ashamed to call her mother. Pentecostalism should go and have a thorough scholarship in sacred scripture and stop misinterpreting same to the destruction of souls.

Trash to any belief that cannot be substantiated Scripturally. The Bible is the only book inspired of God. You need to accept that undeniable fact to be able to appreciate the truth of God's word and make any spiritual progress.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 8:33am On Dec 28, 2017
cyrilamx:
Explain to me what Mary meant by "how can this happen since I know not a man" even though she was betrothed and wasn't at all ignorant of biological conception. Only one plausible explanation : she ask in Amazement since she already took a life long vow of virginity for sake of Kingdom of God. Get detail in extra biblical writing, the Protoevangelium of James which gave us a wider knowledge of Mary's family including names of her parents. The Holy Bible did not deal in detail about her person since it wasn't a matter of dispute among early Christians. But there are ample sources to help us know her better because she is co-redemptrix just as Christ is our redeemer.

Trash, Trash, Trash. Mary asked because she had not had any intercourse with Joseph, which Matthew 1:25 also mentioned. Your assumption of life-long vow is what it is - ASSUMPTION. And you want sane persons to accept your assumption!
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 8:39am On Dec 28, 2017
The Bible never told u it is the only Rule of the Christian faith, stop this sola scriptura madness. Pentecostalism lie they it adheres to the Bible, yet it constituting nuisance all over and cannot agree on a particular doctrine. Plz tell me what the early Christians used as Rule of faith for the first 300 years prior the setting up of the canons of the Scriptures in 393 in Hippo and 397 in carthage? Or have you not study the gradual development and fixing of new testament canons by the Catholic Church?
Investnow2017:


Trash to any belief that cannot be substantiated Scripturally. The Bible is the only book inspired of God. You need to accept that undeniable fact to be able to appreciate the truth of God's word and make any spiritual progress.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 8:43am On Dec 28, 2017
cyrilamx:
The Bible never told u it is the only Rule of the Christian faith, stop this sola scriptura madness. Pentecostalism lie they it adheres to the Bible, yet it constituting nuisance all over and cannot agree on a particular doctrine. Plz tell me what the early Christians used as Rule of faith for the first 300 years prior the setting up of the canons of the Scriptures in 393 in Hippo and 397 in carthage? Or have you not study the gradual development and fixing of new testament canons by the Catholic Church?

Oh sorry, by that time the church had deviated from the true way as prophesied by Paul the apostle, Acts 20:28-30. And this is no surprise because Jesus Christ had said this would happen. So you do not know this?
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 8:53am On Dec 28, 2017
Oga it seems u are even wiser than the Church fathers...the only reason God allowed allowed Joseph to marry Mary even though earlier betrothed was to give her a legal backing cos of the divine child in her womb so that she won't be stoned to death for getting pregnant out of wedlock. I keep repeating myself that pentecostals are shallow reader of the scriptures....they can't comprehend the mystery of the holy writ. Mary as the Ark of the new covenant can't not be touched ( that is engaged in sex with by Joseph) cos she was already purified by the Holy Spirit and carried the new Covenant in her womb. There have been few married saints in the history of the Church that never had conjugal sex. Also will u be bold enough after seeing the miraculous conception of Christ, go ahead to have sex if u were Joseph? That means you don't reverence the Divine, in their allegorical interpretation of Ezek.44:2, the Church Fathers sees the shut gate of Ezek as the womb of Mary which the Lord God has entered tru and shut to any other.
Emyogalanya:
SOMEONE CAN DECIDE TO BE A VIRGIN BUT ONCE MARRIAGE IS INVOLVED IT WONT WORK COS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH YOU CAN ONLY BE A PRIEST OR MARRIED YOU CAN'T TAKE BOTH SACRAMENTS
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by MosesAlex: 8:53am On Dec 28, 2017
Emyogalanya:
DID YOU EVEN READ WHERE YOU QUOTE? ITS ABOUT THE RICH YOUNG MAN WHO JESUS ASK TO SELL HIS PROPERTY. NOW TO THE EUNUCHS YOU WROTE. ANSWER THIS QUESTION HOW CAN ONE BE A EUNUCH AND STILL BE ENTERING INTO MARRIAGE. EUNUCH IS DIFFERENT FROM CELIBACY. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE A GODESS OUT OF MARY. G HONOUR MARY BUT IT SEEMS YOU WORSHIP HER. AND LET ME TELL YOU WITHOUT THE DEATH OF JESUS MARY WONT BE SAVED TOO. AVE MARIA. ORA PRO NOBIS
My dear, thanks for the correction. The verse is Mt 19:12 not Mt 19:22.

Eunuch for the same of the Kingdom is different from Celibacy? What makes them different? The issue discussed here is if Mary had other Children. Mary is not God, there is the worship that belongs to God alone called "Latria". You can google that to know the meaning . What the Church gives Mary is called "Hyperdulia", and to the saints "dulia". Mary is a creature of God.

Now food for thought (John 19:26-27)
When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. and to the disciple, "Here is your mother." From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.

Could Jesus take his mother and give to John, if he was not the only Child?

Remember this is the Gospel of John, so John is saying that from that time on (not temporarily), he took Mary now His Mother to his home.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 9:10am On Dec 28, 2017
I tire for this una pentecostal ideology...the Church already deviated from the true way, yet still went collated from among the numerous writings of the New testaments and set up the canons of the New testaments? The Church has deviated, yet still set up Sunday as a day of worship, still fixes Easter to celebration the resurrection, still took the Gospel to hostile lands? Hmmm. My dear the words of Christ to the Catholic Church still remains: the gate of Hell can never prevail against her. This despite the failings of some of her members and even leadership, persecution within and without, she still living the divine mission of teaching all nations. Empires that wanted to tear her down have all been lost to history, Protestants churches like Lutheran, Anglican, Methodism, etc that rose to criticise and counter her, have all shrink into oblivion or be submerge by the world. Now it is the pentecostals who are interested in personal gains owing to their merchandise of the words of Christ and screaming Bible alone that are also attacking the Church forgetting that it is a divine fortress that can't be tore down. Sadly, pentecostals can't agree on a Bible passage nor can they prove that the Bible itself said it is the sole Rule of the Christian faith. Ask yourself if the splinter group pentecostals have set up everywhere do not make mockery of the prayer of Christ that his Church be ONE as recorded in Jn 17?
Investnow2017:


Oh sorry, by that time the church had deviated from the true way as prophesied by Paul the apostle, Acts 20:28-30. And this is no surprise because Jesus Christ had said this would happen. So you do not know this?

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by MosesAlex: 9:15am On Dec 28, 2017
Emyogalanya:
DID MARY AND JOSEPH TAKE A VOW OF CELIBACY OR WERE THEY IN ANYWAY EUNUCHS WHILE CELIBATE PEOPLE DON'T GET MARRIED THEY LIVE LIKE HERMITS. AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE JEHOSAPHAT. EUNUCHS LIVE IN THE PALACE SERVING QUEENS. AND BECAUSE THE KINGS OFTEN DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIER WIFES THEY SERVE THE QUEEN AS BODY GUARDS AND AVOID LAYING WITH THEM. THE MEN MUST BE EUNUCHS

Where did your see that celibate people live away from the people? Have you not heard that St Paul was a celibate?1Cor 7

Secondly, in Mt 19:12, Our Lord identified 3 types of Eunuchs

Mt 19:12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way(1st type),
and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others--(2nd type) and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven( 3rd type). You are referring to the 1st or 2nd type. I am referring to the 3rd type of Eunuchs
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 9:28am On Dec 28, 2017
You see you don't even understand the meaning of Co- redemptrix, mediatrix to mention but a few of the privilege title our Lady enjoy. The fact that such a word is not found in scripture doesn't mean the essence or course is not there. Just like you can't find the words Resurrection nor Transfiguration, nor even Bible doesn't mean the act which these words represent do not exist. Now back to our Co-redemptrix analogy, by the FIAT of Mary, agreeing to cooperate with the divinity to become the Mother of God the Son, she already cooperated with Christ to redeem us. She started our salvific mission just as Eve started the destruction of man. Satan as a fallen angel visited Eve it is only to set the course of salvation in order for the Archangel Gabriel to visit Mary. If St Paul in 1.Cor.3:9-10 referred to themselves as co-worjers with God in the mission of saving souls, how much more will the Blessed Virgin Mary earn the title as CO-REDEMPTRIX( AS A WOMAN U use the feminine of redeemer to qualify her) I hope I have explained to you that how the Bible u claim to follow uphold such title even if the word is not found but the Essence which is cooperating with Christ to redeem us is biblical..
Emyogalanya:
TAA THATS THE PROBLEM WITH MARIAN SOCIETIES CO - REDEMTRIX YOU MEAN MARY WAS CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST? FOR YOU ? HAVE YOU MADE A GODESS OUT OF MARY. MARY WILL BE LOST IF CHRIST DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS. THE CHURCH DISMISSED CO REDEMTRIX TEACHING. DON'T EVEN BRING IT UP. ALL THIS THINGS THEY TEACH YOU IN BLUE ARMY
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 9:43am On Dec 28, 2017
Oga in biblical scholarship...go and read Vatican 11 documents " Verbum Dei" it is there. The Church allows for critical study of scripture in order not to repeat same error of imprisoning Galileo who said the sun and not the earth was centre of the heavenly bodies following Corpernician discovery. Some Church then became angry and Arrested Galileo because they believe he was reversing age old believe that the son do rises and set, hence the Bible teaching that Joshua prayed and sun stood still. Science and discovery of Fedinard Magellan has proven that the earth is spherical and the earth, moon revolves round the sun. So you with numerous evidence before us that numerous discoveries as old as millions of years already negated the Bible teaching that the earth from Adam is 6000 years. Ask ur priest to clarify to you that I said the first 11 chapters of Genesis ain't historical, infact the creation story is not different from the Babylonian account of creation found in Epic of Gilgamesh which infact is older and don't be an arm chair Catholic. As Galileo said "the Bible teaches us how to go to heaven and not how the heavenly bodies move" in a nutshell, the Bible authors were not concern about giving accurate historical account...rather only to portray to us God is the creator of the World. quote author=Emyogalanya post=63668367] MYTH DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IS MYTH? YOU CALL PARTS OF BIBLE MYTH? SHAME ON YOU YOU MAKE ME ASHAMED OF BEING CATHOLIC[/quote]
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by lovetruth(m): 9:54am On Dec 28, 2017
Investnow2017:

What is your authority?
the Jewish tradition and infancy of Christ
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Justicealh3(m): 2:05pm On Dec 28, 2017
Leonbonapart:
lost fool
U av lost already tongue tongue tongue.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Justicealh3(m): 2:06pm On Dec 28, 2017
enigmaticlion:
Na moooohamed be slave and pig ass paedophile loving gangstar
U people av lost already.... tongue tongue tongue
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Justicealh3(m): 2:10pm On Dec 28, 2017
victorakpabome:


A FOOL sighted. Your brain needs serious formatting. Ode! angry
U people av lost already, and U will not believe the truth.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ClareMarie: 5:08pm On Dec 28, 2017
Emyogalanya:
SO HOW DOES HAVING OTHER CHILDREN MAKES IT LESS CONSECRATED. DID SHE HAVE THEM OUTSIDE WEDLOCK ? THE BIBLE SAYS MARRIAGE IS HONOURABLE IN ALL WITH THE MARRIAGE BED UNDEFILED. AFTER ALL HE IS THE FIRST BORN FROM THAT WOMB

Its not the having of children that is the problem, but the act. The marriage of Joseph and Mary was in name only.

Imagine you were Joseph and the woman you married was impregnated by the *Holy Spirit* and she gave birth to the promised *Saviour*, your messiah, your GOD, would you be able to even think of her as just a woman? Talk more of having marital relations with her?

You wouldn't dare! at least a God fearing man wouldn't. And Joseph was a God fearing man.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 5:16pm On Dec 28, 2017
ClareMarie:


Its not the having of children that is the problem, but the act. The marriage of Joseph and Mary was in name only.

Imagine you were Joseph and the woman you married was impregnated by the *Holy Spirit* and she gave birth to the promised *Saviour*, your messiah, your GOD, would you be able to even think of her as just a woman? Talk more of having marital relations with her?

You wouldn't dare! at least a God fearing man wouldn't. And Joseph was a God fearing man.

So the Messiah is GOD Do spirits operate like humans? So the Holy Spirit slept with Mary as a human would do? Is that your thinking? Some of you quote Ezek 44:2 in this regard. Quoted totally out of context.

Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is the Only Begotten Son of God - He is different from God Almighty the Most High and the Creator of the universe who has no beginning nor end. However Jesus has a beginning. Do not confuse the identities of the TWO distinct great Personalities please.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ClareMarie: 5:44pm On Dec 28, 2017
Investnow2017:


Oh sorry, by that time the church had deviated from the true way as prophesied by Paul the apostle, Acts 20:28-30. And this is no surprise because Jesus Christ had said this would happen. So you do not know this?

But this the same church that cumulated writings of the disciples into the book you currently call 'The Bible'. Does that mean the bible you have is also a deviation from the truth?
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ClareMarie: 6:11pm On Dec 28, 2017
Investnow2017:


So the Messiah is GOD Do spirits operate like humans? So the Holy Spirit slept with Mary as a human would do? Is that your thinking? Some of you quote Ezek 44:2 in this regard. Quoted totally out of context.

Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is the Only Begotten Son of God - He is different from God Almighty the Most High and the Creator of the universe who has no beginning nor end. However Jesus has a beginning. Do not confuse the identities of the TWO distinct great Personalities please.

Carnality.......I never said he slept with her. The actual words of the angel is in your bible, read it. Luke 1:35.
You are bringing up Ezekiel, not me.


"I and the Father are one" John 10:30

Also verse 38; But if I do, though you may not believe me, believe the works that you may know and believe that the father is in me and I am in the father

"That all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him" John 5:23

Whatever honour you give to God the father, you must give to God the son
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 9:07pm On Dec 28, 2017
ClareMarie:


Its not the having of children that is the problem, but the act. The marriage of Joseph and Mary was in name only
Imagine you were Joseph and the woman you married was impregnated by the *Holy Spirit* and she gave birth to the promised *Saviour*, your messiah, your GOD, would you be able to even think of her as just a woman? Talk more of having marital relations with her?
You wouldn't dare! at least a God fearing man wouldn't. And Joseph was a God fearing man.
IMAGINE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE THE MAN OUT OF ANGER WANTED TO DIVORCE HER BUT WAS CONVINCE TO GO AHEAD TO MARRY HER IF AM TO GO BY YOUR ARGUEMENT WHY GO AHEAD WITH THE MARRIAGE IF HE HAD SO MUCH RESPECT UNTO HIS GOD. WHY NOT FORGET IT ALTOGETHER. YOUR POINT IS UNFOUNDED. HOW IS THE MARRIAGE IN NAME ONLY G NEVER HEARD SUCH A MARRIAGE. THE ONLY WAY IT CAN HAPPEN IS IF HE HAD ANOTHER WIFE

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ClareMarie: 2:34am On Dec 29, 2017
Emyogalanya:
IMAGINE WHAT YOU JUST WROTE THE MAN OUT OF ANGER WANTED TO DIVORCE HER BUT WAS CONVINCE TO GO AHEAD TO MARRY HER IF AM TO GO BY YOUR ARGUEMENT WHY GO AHEAD WITH THE MARRIAGE IF HE HAD SO MUCH RESPECT UNTO HIS GOD. WHY NOT FORGET IT ALTOGETHER. YOUR POINT IS UNFOUNDED. HOW IS THE MARRIAGE IN NAME ONLY G NEVER HEARD SUCH A MARRIAGE. THE ONLY WAY IT CAN HAPPEN IS IF HE HAD ANOTHER WIFE

Actually, you are the one not making sense. Because the bible I read said Joseph wanted to quietly divorce her so as not to cause her shame. That is not something someone who is angry does.
When the angel told him not to be afraid to take Mary as his wife, of course he will listen to his God and give the son of God a stable home.

Do you not know what kind of shame it would have been if Jesus was born of a single mother?

Please listen to your God and accept the truth that is staring you in the face. Joseph would never have touched the mother of his Lord in a sexual way, never!
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 4:11am On Dec 29, 2017
ClareMarie:


Actually, you are the one not making sense. Because the bible I read said Joseph wanted to quietly divorce her so as not to cause her shame. That is not something someone who is angry does.
When the angel told him not to be afraid to take Mary as his wife, of course he will listen to his God and give the son of God a stable home.

Do you not know what kind of shame it would have been if Jesus was born of a single mother?

Please listen to your God and accept the truth that is staring you in the face. Joseph would never have touched the mother of his Lord in a sexual way, never!
TELL ME HE IS GAY OR THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSEXUALLY MARRIED. YOU AINT MORE CATHOLIC THAN I BUT I WONT MAKE A GODESS OUT OF MARY AVE MARIA ORA PRO NOBIS
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 4:11am On Dec 29, 2017
ClareMarie:


Actually, you are the one not making sense. Because the bible I read said Joseph wanted to quietly divorce her so as not to cause her shame. That is not something someone who is angry does.
When the angel told him not to be afraid to take Mary as his wife, of course he will listen to his God and give the son of God a stable home.

Do you not know what kind of shame it would have been if Jesus was born of a single mother?

Please listen to your God and accept the truth that is staring you in the face. Joseph would never have touched the mother of his Lord in a sexual way, never!
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 4:15am On Dec 29, 2017
ClareMarie:


Actually, you are the one not making sense. Because the bible I read said Joseph wanted to quietly divorce her so as not to cause her shame. That is not something someone who is angry does.
When the angel told him not to be afraid to take Mary as his wife, of course he will listen to his God and give the son of God a stable home.

Do you not know what kind of shame it would have been if Jesus was born of a single mother?

Please listen to your God and accept the truth that is staring you in the face. Joseph would never have touched the mother of his Lord in a sexual way, never!
WILL IT MAKE HER LESS HOLY IF HE DID TOUCH HER? WILL IT MAKE JESUS LESS CHRIST? ITS NOT THE BIRTH OF JESUS THAT SAVED US IT IS HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS AND I MAKE BOLD TO SAY THAT IF JESUS DID NOT DIE EVEN MARY WONT BE SAVED
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by noblefrank31(m): 5:18am On Dec 29, 2017
The Holy Bible has the right answer!

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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 7:19am On Dec 29, 2017
ClareMarie:


Carnality.......I never said he slept with her. The actual words of the angel is in your bible, read it. Luke 1:35.
You are bringing up Ezekiel, not me.


"I and the Father are one" John 10:30

Also verse 38; But if I do, though you may not believe me, believe the works that you may know and believe that the father is in me and I am in the father

"That all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him" John 5:23

Whatever honour you give to God the father, you must give to God the son



So when Jesus prayed that his disciples should be ONE just as he is ONE with his Father, he also meant that his disciples should be part of trinity? Read John 17: 21-23 and explain. Let's take it one by one.
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Emyogalanya: 7:31am On Dec 29, 2017
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Trash, Trash, Trash. Mary asked because she had not had any intercourse with Joseph, which Matthew 1:25 also mentioned. Your assumption of life-long vow is what it is - ASSUMPTION. And you want sane persons to accept your assumption!
NO MIND THAT GUY LIFE LONG VOW OF CELIBACY AND A MAN CAME FOR YOUR HAND IN MARRIAGE YOU ACCEPTED HIM BECAUSE MARRIAGE WILL HELP YOU FULFIL THAT VOW. AND SAME FOR JOSEPH TOO? DID HE ALSO TAKE A SIMILAR VOW TOO? AND WENT ON TO MARRY A WOMAN TO HELP HIM ACHIEVE HIS VOW? THESE GUYS ARE TERRIBLE LIARS. THE REASONABLE THING IS TO AVOID MARRIAGE IF YOU TOOK A VOW OF CELIBACY

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