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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:24am On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
U-17 and u-20 are age grade competitions. They are on the same level with the u - 20 a notch higher. Winning u-20 award is not a huge award. Not even u-23 is. Don't push it because of Solanke. If a Nigerian player wins this same award now you will change your song. I have read you so many times and slowly my perception of your views has crystallised. I didn't compare Osimhen to Solanke. I only pointed out that if Osimhen were to do what Solanke did you won't regard it. I can't for the life of me compare Osimhen to Solanke. Who is Solanke? Is he a Nigerian player? If not for you guys I don't even give a hoot about him and I truly wish him the best. But you are unduly prejudiced against our players. Do you know how I know you are prejudiced? You are not aware of it, you are blind to it. That's classic prejudice.

There's something about Osimhen that triggers some angst inside of you. I do not say this lightly. A man might be down and struggling. If I turn that fact into a song and making a dance out of it then the issue is no longer with the struggling man, the issue is with me.

Look at all Nigerian players- especially the Nigerian players not those of uncertain national allegiance - with the eyes of hope, show believe, show faith in them. Players should be criticized but it need not be always as I see you do once Iheanacho and Osimhen are mentioned. The truth is if you do not believe or have hope in these players why then are you criticising them? It is only those who have faith in them that ought to criticize them. Those who do not have faith should be sincere enough to acknowledge that their joy is to see this players go down rather than to mask their ill will under the guise of criticism. It is not your criticism that riles me. It's the spirit behind it: you don't want this two boys to come to any good in football. Examine yourself Sir. I say this with deep soberness.
I will not defend Iheanacho(and I have criticised him here or Osimhen(after his outing against SA I opined he wasn't ripe for the SE) but till the end I will show faith in them. Let them succeed. It's my joy. Their failings will give me no joy at all not even when I see better options. They are human beings like me. I know how incredibly difficult it can be to succeed and for some it's not a straight journey.
thank you for this wonderful piece.

Komekn reminds me of those white people who never see anything wrong with racism, the ones who think they are 'racial' and not 'racist' and so, anybody calling them racist is wrong and being too emotional

It is one thing to be biased, but when you cannot see your bias, wahala dey o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:30am On Dec 29, 2017
Humility017:
you're one person on this thread that is quite erratic....
what is Martins doing in the super eagles...
you talking to contradict yourself...how many many goals did he score for his Chinese team...this past season...?

you talking as if the player in question is one messi or Ronaldo....

please spare us.....even without him we have fared relatively well....
with over 12 goals scored during the qualifiers.....
so please drop that Martins talk
Abeg relax because you don't understand my post at all. Martins is your trigger point - once you see his name you seem to lose your mind. If you cannot recognise a tongue- in - cheek comment in the context of my discussion with goldfish80 then na you sabi because his reply to my tongue in cheek comment about Martins is one I am yet to figure out cos it seems he got my drift and gave it back intelligently to me.

And beyond the tongue in cheek comment on Martins in context, I support wholeheartedly his invitation to the SE. If that makes me erratic then it's my erraticness not yours. Quit telling me to drop it. You can as well ignore my post. Happy holidays
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
safarigirl:
thank you for this wonderful piece.

Komekn reminds me of those white people who never see anything wrong with racism, the ones who think they are 'racial' and not 'racist' and so, anybody calling them racist is wrong and being too emotional

It is one thing to be biased, but when you cannot see your bias, wahala dey o
That's just the problem. We have our biases. Some are sincere enough to acknowledge, some don't but don't preach objectivity to others, but worse is the one who will not acknowledge his prejudice and yet be preaching objectivity to others. Just a little honesty will be just fine.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:40am On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Abeg relax because you don't understand my post at all. Martins is your trigger point. Once you see his name you seem to lose your mind. If you cannot recognise a tongue in cheek comment in the context of my discussion with goldfish80 then na you sabi because his reply to my tongue in cheek comment about Martins is one I am yet to figure out cos it seems he got my drift and gave it back intelligently to me.

And beyond the tongue in cheek comment on Martins in context, I support wholeheartedly his invitation to the SE. If that makes me erratic then it's my erraticness not yours. Quit telling me to drop it. You can as well ignore my post. Happy holidays
good to you come out boldly to say it...
you're one of the crew that want martins in the team....using the filmsy excuse of him being a super striker that will come change things around....

you see sir forgiveness and komekn theure sure straightforward in this talk....
but good you made know your stance...

you talking as if sir goldfish reply change anything..tomoro you will still make same suggestion....
only God knows what you guys are Martins...if we really wanna invite someone of his age...ogbeche should have the nod.

but damn no....we are through wit old strikers......
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 8:42am On Dec 29, 2017
EVERTON DOCTORS SAYS ONYEKURU'S INJURY NOT SERIOUS

Everton doctors have determined that Henry Onyekuru’s knee injury is not grievous as was widely reported. The young striker will be out for only six weeks and not six months.
Onyekuru
The player was reportedly examined by Everton doctors and the MRI scans of the injury have revealed that he may not be needing surgery but minor treatment. Onyekuru has been allowed to return to Belgium to recuperate.
Onyekuru hurt his knee at the weekend during a league game with Anderlecht at former club KAS Eupen.
Initial media reports suggested his season was effectively over and that could also mean his hopes of playing at the World Cup in Russia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:43am On Dec 29, 2017
2innocent:
in the absence of onyekuru, orji okonkwo should be given a chance to show what he can bring to the table
we already have some players too...
bazee, oshimen, kayode...success isaac if he starts playing
though one of orji, yinka and kalu inclusion won't be bad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:45am On Dec 29, 2017
chimzyblack:
EVERTON DOCTORS REVEALS ONYEKURU INJURY NOT SERIOUS

Everton doctors have determined that Henry Onyekuru’s knee injury is not grievous as was widely reported. The young striker will be out for only six weeks and not six months.
Onyekuru
The player was reportedly examined by Everton doctors and the MRI scans of the injury have revealed that he may not be needing surgery but minor treatment. Onyekuru has been allowed to return to Belgium to recuperate.
Onyekuru hurt his knee at the weekend during a league game with Anderlecht at former club KAS Eupen.
Initial media reports suggested his season was effectively over and that could also mean his hopes of playing at the World Cup in Russia.
good news...he should please stay back in England until after he recuperate.
that coach is bad influence on his health...

imagine a coach opening his mouth to say the injury gonna last for 6 months in a bid to keep him in the dark not because Doctors told him so...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:53am On Dec 29, 2017
Humility017:
good to you come out boldly to say it...
you're one of the crew that want martins in the team....using the filmsy excuse of him being a super striker that will come change things around....

you see sir forgiveness and komekn theure sure straightforward in this talk....
but good you made know your stance...

you talking as if sir goldfish reply change anything..tomoro you will still make same suggestion....
only God knows what you guys are Martins...if we really wanna invite someone of his age...ogbeche should have the nod.

but damn no....we are through wit old strikers......
The bolded is a mistaken perception. I do not want Martins in the team. I want him to be INVITED to see if he can impress enough to be in the team.
Relax. It's just an invitation. You have nothing to lose. His stats are comparatively at the same level with Ighalo. To be invited is one hurdle. To impress is another hurdle. Shebi people argued their heads off about Nwakali. What settled the matter? He couldn't cut it in camp.
I used to be passionately against the invitation of Martins(you will notice I don't subscribe to Ogbeche or Ike Uche) but I reflected on it and asked myself why oppose his Invitation when he is comparatively at the same level with Ighalo and he's consistent. I looked at the team and like many here discovered we are thin attackwise. So I calling for his invitation is a compromise between those who want his inclusion and those who don't. If he's invited and he impresses, fine. If not then he'd be dropped and that's just fine as well.

As for Ogbeche I have explained that I am yet to get over the disappointment of 2002. In any case I am not the coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:01am On Dec 29, 2017
Kog45:
I can't really say much on Nwanneri but i know he always paired with Seyi Ogunsanya in Amodu old days home eagles.
That is the index player to ascertain when that game was played

If Nwanneri was in that game then it was played after Enyimba won the 2003 CAF champions league. Because Obinna Nwanneri and Onyekachi Okonkwo were invited to the SE following Enyimba's success at that year's CAF champions league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by EEGA: 9:19am On Dec 29, 2017
chimzyblack:
EVERTON DOCTORS SAYS ONYEKURU'S INJURY NOT SERIOUS

Everton doctors have determined that Henry Onyekuru’s knee injury is not grievous as was widely reported. The young striker will be out for only six weeks and not six months.
Onyekuru
The player was reportedly examined by Everton doctors and the MRI scans of the injury have revealed that he may not be needing surgery but minor treatment. Onyekuru has been allowed to return to Belgium to recuperate.
Onyekuru hurt his knee at the weekend during a league game with Anderlecht at former club KAS Eupen.
Initial media reports suggested his season was effectively over and that could also mean his hopes of playing at the World Cup in Russia.
This boy's future is bright.

He now needs to play with more caution.

@Chimzy Thanks for the update.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by EEGA: 9:26am On Dec 29, 2017
Humility017:
we already have some players too...
bazee, oshimen, kayode...success isaac if he starts playing
though one of orji, yinka and kalu inclusion won't be bad
I would love to see your 30-man provisional squad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lilcozy001: 9:52am On Dec 29, 2017
Ronaldo blast barcelona on their treatment on players



Former Brazil striker, Ronaldo Luis Nazario de Lima, has lashed out at Barcelona over his time at the club.

Ronaldo claims that Real Madrid fans made him feel more welcome when he played at the Santiago Bernabeu.

He played at the Camp Nou between 1996-97 under Sir Bobby Robson and featured for Real between 2002-07.

“I felt much more happy and more connected to Real Madrid, despite having lived a great year in Barcelona,” Ronaldo told Esporte Interativo.

Read more here: http://www.correctmum.com.ng/ronaldo-blast-barcelona-treatment-players/

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:59am On Dec 29, 2017
Icon4s:
Your first paragraph is what I have been hammering on here.

The U20 is not for academy players but for young professional players some of whom have seen up to 3 years of senior team action in their respective leagues.

In Nigeria we often underrate the challenge at the U20 level. Until we stop doing so, we will continue to get disappointed.
How many teams would release their senior players to play U-20?

Just recently we saw how many teams stopped their boys from turning up for us at the U-23
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:01am On Dec 29, 2017
Icon4s:
Eric Ejiofor and Obinna Nwanneri only got SE call ups after their heroics with the Enyimba team that won the CAF champions league late 2003. That's why I said 2003/2004.
Was it thesame Nwanneri that later partnered Apam in our defense??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:01am On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
U-17 and u-20 are age grade competitions. They are on the same level with the u - 20 a notch higher. Winning u-20 award is not a huge award. Not even u-23 is. Don't push it because of Solanke. If a Nigerian player wins this same award now you will change your song. I have read you so many times and slowly my perception of your views has crystallised. I didn't compare Osimhen to Solanke. I only pointed out that if Osimhen were to do what Solanke did you won't regard it. I can't for the life of me compare Osimhen to Solanke. Who is Solanke? Is he a Nigerian player? If not for you guys I don't even give a hoot about him and I truly wish him the best. But you are unduly prejudiced against our players. Do you know how I know you are prejudiced? You are not aware of it, you are blind to it. That's classic prejudice.

There's something about Osimhen that triggers some angst inside of you. I do not say this lightly. A man might be down and struggling. If I turn that fact into a song and making a dance out of it then the issue is no longer with the struggling man, the issue is with me.

Look at all Nigerian players- especially the Nigerian players not those of uncertain national allegiance - with the eyes of hope, show believe, show faith in them. Players should be criticized but it need not be always as I see you do once Iheanacho and Osimhen are mentioned. The truth is if you do not believe or have hope in these players why then are you criticising them? It is only those who have faith in them that ought to criticize them. Those who do not have faith should be sincere enough to acknowledge that their joy is to see this players go down rather than to mask their ill will under the guise of criticism. It is not your criticism that riles me. It's the spirit behind it: you don't want this two boys to come to any good in football. Examine yourself Sir. I say this with deep soberness.
I will not defend Iheanacho(and I have criticised him here or Osimhen(after his outing against SA I opined he wasn't ripe for the SE) but till the end I will show faith in them. Let them succeed. It's my joy. Their failings will give me no joy at all not even when I see better options. They are human beings like me. I know how incredibly difficult it can be to succeed and for some it's not a straight journey.
No. The U20 is like 3 steps higher.

This mind set is the reason we parade academy and clubless players at U20 and be believing we are favorites to win it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
komekn:
I have said this several times.

Consider Taribo West playing non stop first man on the team sheet for Inter-milan. Without doubt considered one of the best defenders in Europe.

To this day Yekini who was a top goal scorer in the Portuguese league is still recognised.

We had attacking players who were among the cream of the top clubs in Europe.

Unity and supposed team spirit can not substitute quality.
Rashidi was an integral member of the SE long before he went to Setubal. Now I discovered that the year (1990)Rashidi joined Setubal they were in the second division. Got promoted in the 93/94 season(the season he ranked as the highest goal scorer in the Portuguese league) and were relegated again in the 94/95 season. So basically our main striker played in a second division team that had a cameo appearance in the first division for just one season throughout the time our main SE attacker was there. In other words Rashidi basically was playing for a division two side in PORTUGAL! Going by your philosophy Rashidi will not near the SE not to talk of donning the Jersey and playing as our top nine. But here you are today celebrating him.

I discovered also that Ikpeba joined Monaco in 1993 struggled and only began to offer something in 1996 and by the 97/98 season he was the indisputable Prince of Monaco. That means he was struggling in Monaco for three seasons under Arsene Wenger but he later got it right. Today he is being named as one of the hot players but he was in the SE in 94 before he started scoring for his club. Going by your philosophy as you have shown towards Iheanacho, Ikpeba will not smell SE as at 94 through 96 when he was struggling. Iheanacho has done just one season in Leicester(and you know he had a good record in man city) and yet once you see his name you reel out putdowns (I can't call them criticisms because I don't think what you do is criticism anymore). Osimhen, a teenager is struggling at Wolfsburg in his first season yet you dish out putdowns lavishly.

The history of football shows that players struggle sometimes just like in every other endeavour in life. Not many know that Henry struggled while in Italy. It was on a fortuitous meeting with Arsene Wenger on a plane flight that Wenger told Henry that he was a striker not a winger and that meeting changed his life forever. Here's Wikipedia excerpt on Henry:Henry left Monaco in January 1999, one year before his intimate and closest teammate David Trezeguet, and moved to Italian club Juventus for £10.5 million.[2] He played on the wing,[9] but he was ineffective against the defensive discipline exhibited by teams in Serie A, struggling in a position that was uncharacteristic for him, scoring just three goals in 16 appearances.[10]

I think even Van Basten or gullit or Rijkaard (I can't remember which one of them) struggled first season in Milan before hitting their strides. And so many players have struggled like this. So why not ease up on this boys for now and come on them say at least two seasons from now?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:04am On Dec 29, 2017
junnyjake:
Was it thesame Nwanneri that later partnered Apam in our defense??
Yes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:04am On Dec 29, 2017
Kog45:
My man US 94 team remain the best and no need to compare but this present team deserves little respect.

Yes Amokachie was a great performance at Cercle Brugge just like Oyekwuru doing it with Anderlecht even as at that time Belgium league was a little bit rated than present Belgium league,pls before we argue this roll out Belgium clubs performance in European competition since 1990 to date.

Mind you Victor Moses is a first team player and very crucial to Chelsea.Iwobi is doing it with Arsenal though not a crucial member.

Remember it was only Finidi George playing for Ajax and also crucial to the team and Chidi Nwanu with Anderlecht which cannot be compared to Anderlecht of Keshi who played in the final of European cup final now Europa against Sampdoria.

If i may ask you who are the players playing in top clubs and very important to their team among US 94 squad.
Even Bonaventure is scoring goals in the same club brugge.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Icon4s:
That is the index player to ascertain when that game was played

If Nwanneri was in that game then it was played after Enyimba won the 2003 CAF champions league. Because Obinna Nwanneri and Onyekachi Okonkwo were invited to the SE following Enyimba's success at that year's CAF champion's league
It has already be confirmed by tgloba that it was played in late 2002 to mark the remembrance of people that die in ferry mishap in Senegal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:12am On Dec 29, 2017
junnyjake:
Even Bonaventure is scoring goals in the same club brugge.
Thank you my brother even Taiwo Awoniy and Peter Olayinka look solid in the same Belgian league not to talk of Simeon Moses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
Icon4s:
No. The U20 is like 3 steps higher.

This mind set is the reason we parade academy and clubless players at U20 and be believing we are favorites to win it.
I said the awards won are on the same level meaning they are all age grade competitions. Jss3 is higher than Jss 1 but all na junior secondary school. And nobody reckons on awards won in Jss 3 when SSCE is in the reckoning. Infact without even talking about SSCE sef, in my secondary school the moment we crossed into SS 1, all the records of junior secondary school in terms of awards didn't matter one bit. We hardly even thought of them. That's how I looked at the Osimhen /Solanke age grade awards. If Osimhen's doesn't count, so also does Solanke. They are on a new level now and must cut it at that level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:19am On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
I said the are on the same level meaning they are all age grade competitions. Jss3 is higher than Jss 1 but all na junior secondary school. And nobody reckons on awards won in Jss 3 when SSCE is in the reckoning. Infact without even talking about SSCE sef, in my secondary school the moment we crossed into SS 1, all the records of junior secondary school in terms of awards didn't matter one bit. We hardly even thought of them. That's how I looked at the Osimhen /Solanke age grade awards. If Osimhen's doesn't count, so also does Solanke. They are on a new level now and must cut it at that level.
this is very true
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 10:22am On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Please tell me which individual award the others won. Abeggi they were average! Of all the players then making waves in the world mention one Nigerian, just one. And please don't come up with top leagues falsehood. The top leagues in the 90's was the seria A and La liga. Ajax beating Milan in 95 was a surprise sort of. We had no single player in Seria A except later when Taribo joined. Just two players in la liga(I am sure it would be a mid table teams those santander( they 8 on the table and Vallecano were relegated that season) Jay Jay was chopping bench at eintracht frankfurt, same with Eguavoen and Siasia, seems Keshi had no club, ikpeba by then was not a regular at Monaco, Ezeugo was playing in India, oliha in cote d'ivoire. Rufai too was hardly a regular at his club. No first team player in the EPL. Ekoku was in midtable Norwich city but he was not a first team player.

Today we have players playing in the EPL, the Bundesliga, in Portugal, in Turkey, in Belgium just as those in the golden generation yet you want us to believe that the leagues in those same countries then were top leagues just because you don't want to see anything good in this team until players of your specific choice are in the team. I respect the 94 team for the good they did to the image of our football . And same respect should be accorded this team.

Abeg people help me see the teams USA 94 squad were playing in (none was playing . And most of them were bench warmers. Thank God for the Internet. Na so you for bamboozle us and make us feel those guys were playing for teams in the mold of Chelsea, Man United, Real and barca.
God bless you immensely for this exposure. Watch as both @forgiveness or @komern ignore this. When I have been screaming about them being agents doing everything to get their players into the team, you all thought I was lying.

Smh

goldfish80:
Maybe you didnt follow my initial comments yesterday or you deliberately chose to ignore it.
I made a study and posted my findings. As a matter of fact, I discovered that all our attackers combined with the exception of Ighalo and the much maligned Nwakaeme(he maybe dropped), the rest of them have contributed just 5 goals all season.
Is this what you call world cup form?

You're talking about game time, while I'm taking about performance.

The fact is that , our attackers need to hit their strides really fast. Those playing must step up and be counted while the inactive ones must find solutions ASAP.

Making semi finals in the world cup is no child's play.
I honestly don't appreciate being misunderstood.
Hope you know they were not scoring in their respective clubs while playing the qualifiers?

Tell me how many goals they scored at the qualifiers and friendly. undecided

For now they play and score well in the GWG. If they stop scoring, only then we can complain

Another thing is, with the way you keep harping about them not performing at their club sides but perform well together as a unit.

Don't you think that Nigeria as a whole have a style of play?..just as we have the samba dance of Brazil?

Don't you think that when together, they play our style well and it produces results?

Must we play like the Europeans or The Americans? huh

Give it a rest already
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:23am On Dec 29, 2017
Kog45:
Thank you my brother even Taiwo Awoniy and Peter Olayinka look solid in the same Belgian league not to talk of Simeon Moses.
Or maybe another argument would be made that the Belgian league of the 90s isn't same as what's obtained today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:29am On Dec 29, 2017
junnyjake:
Was it thesame Nwanneri that later partnered Apam in our defense??
Only one Nwanneri has played for the Super Eagles.

So he is the one
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:31am On Dec 29, 2017
Kog45:
It has already be confirmed by AIG that it was played in late 2002 to mark the remembrance of people that die in ferry mishap in Senegal.
Then are you sure Nwanneri was in that team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:38am On Dec 29, 2017
junnyjake:
Or maybe another argument would be made that the Belgian league of the 90s isn't same as what's obtained today.
Well may be for guys who are just watching the game not for someone like me even in the 90s the league was not that rated except for Anderlecht who are solid during Keshi era,i remember they played against Sampdoria in European cup final and losing 2 nil with Vialli scoring a brace.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:38am On Dec 29, 2017
junnyjake:
How many teams would release their senior players to play U-20?

Just recently we saw how many teams stopped their boys from turning up for us at the U-23
The U20 WC is played at the end of the season. It falls within the FIFA free window. Clubs are obliged to release these players.
The youths players are available at that time of the year. Look at England. They even paraded two different teams for the U20 WC and European U21.

The Olympics doesnt fall into the FIFA calendar so clubs are not obliged to release players.

We do not give the U20 tournament the respect and attention it requires which is why we have continued to fail.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by FabioPeter: 10:44am On Dec 29, 2017
Mickael2:
but the thing is Isco was already playing for the Valencia first team before he was signed, he was already quality
A player is not a finished product until he reaches his peak. Isco is learning under Zidane as well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by FabioPeter: 10:50am On Dec 29, 2017
realpoacher:
God bless you immensely for this exposure. Watch as both @forgiveness or @komern ignore this. When I have been screaming about them being agents doing everything to get their players into the team, you all thought I was lying.

Smh



Hope you know they were not scoring in their respective clubs while playing the qualifiers?

Tell me how many goals they scored at the qualifiers and friendly. undecided

For now they play and score well in the GWG. If they stop scoring, only then we can complain

Another thing is, with the way you keep harping about them not performing at their club sides but perform well together as a unit.

Don't you think that Nigeria as a whole have a style of play?..just as we have the samba dance of Brazil?

Don't you think that when together, they play our style well and it produces results?

Must we play like the Europeans or The Americans? huh

Give it a rest already
We had a unique style of play when our players were largely from the local league. Today, they all play in Europe, a good number were born there or started their development there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:02am On Dec 29, 2017
komekn:
Disagree when Amokachi was at Brugge he was being courted be several EPL teams at the time. After the World Cup his rating went further upwards.

How many if our current players are first team players and crucial players in top clubs in Europehuh

Compare the current team to the pre millennium set of players and thier is really a big gulf in quality.
Behold your crucial players in top leagues in Europe. And please take note of those unattached, Almighty Rashidi in second division teams (like setubal) those warming the bench like Siasia, Eguavoen, Rufai and Jay Jay, the one in relegated teams like Agbonivbare (valleycano) the ones in India or cote d'ivoire like Ezeogu and Oliha or Uche Okafor the pillar of our defence at fc Ashdod in Isreal then ooo(chai imagine Israeli league then)! Finidi joined SE in 1991 when he was still a naija based player for sharks of Port Harcourt. and had held down the RW as his(based on your philosophy he won't smell SE then) before he went to Ajax in 93. For Finidi, I will give you Vicmo at Chelsea.

Please forumites, I have undying love for the 94 set because they were the ones that really made me into a football fan but the romantic picture some want to give us here is not the reality in so far as they want to make us think the present crop are playing lesser roles for sh!t clubs
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AIG07: 11:10am On Dec 29, 2017
chimzyblack:
EVERTON DOCTORS SAYS ONYEKURU'S INJURY NOT SERIOUS

Everton doctors have determined that Henry Onyekuru’s knee injury is not grievous as was widely reported. The young striker will be out for only six weeks and not six months.
Onyekuru
The player was reportedly examined by Everton doctors and the MRI scans of the injury have revealed that he may not be needing surgery but minor treatment. Onyekuru has been allowed to return to Belgium to recuperate.
Onyekuru hurt his knee at the weekend during a league game with Anderlecht at former club KAS Eupen.
Initial media reports suggested his season was effectively over and that could also mean his hopes of playing at the World Cup in Russia.
good news.

But him coach no try at all. He has been trying all his possible best to frustrate this guy. He started by benching his best player and backing his decision with flimsy excuses and so on.

The biasness of these foreign coaches towards Nigeria players is becoming apparent and undenying. I have been studying this trend for a while. They all seem to have some kinda view towards our players which seems to be some sort of conspiracy to me.

This behavioural pattern makes me to object the notion that "we haven't/can't produce quality players who can compete with the elite of the game".

I'm tempted to agree with Sir Icon4s who once attributed our players inability to progress steadily in europe to the NIGERIAN FACTOR. Or how can one explain the level of callousness metted out to our players worldwide.
Recently Utretch manager has been benching Dessers and limiting his actions not be cause he is injured or poor (atleast he is one of their top scorer and your guess is as good as mine on what has warrants such treatment). Iwobi suffers the same fate. Moses was never given chance through out his loan moves across England, Musa has been treated unfairly in Leicester and so on.

But some folks will come online, jumping at every opportunity to question these boys quality comparing them to those who haven't switch allegiance yet. Bringing out some STAT in the name of being factual when they themselves know that the field of play is not FAIR.

I can bet you that the likes of SOLANKE, TAMMY, IBE etc careers will be a TOAST if they dare declare Nigeria.
Or do guys still think these boys will still be making matchday squad if they were Nigerians? 10games without a goal, no goal in as many matches in this season etc.

My Stance is this, give our players the chance and environment to thrive and see what they are capable of. Their quality can only be verified with the amount of chances given to them to prove their WORTH. V. Moses is a testimony to this.
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