jeruzi:
Heya! sorry. So, now, the black africans that travelled to saudi arabia are now Arabs. Do you think it is everyone that disconnect from their roots when they travel out of their home land.
Ask yourself; the people living in America are called what?
Have you not seen people tracing their roots?

The people living in the united states of America are Europeans. Same goes wit the people living in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

They suppress n kill the locals/owners in these countries listed above and take over their countries leadership.

For ur information, There have always been BLACK ARABS in Saudi Arabia. There's a lot u need to read oga

Empiree:

If the worship of the one and true living God was passed down from generation to generation among the Jews. Then I ask you again
1) What was the god of the preislamic mecca?
2) What was the name of the quarysh (mohammed's tribe) god?
3) What was mohammed's gradfather's duty.
4) What was mohammed's father's name?
5) What was the kaaba to them?

With this few questions to start with, what then was passed unto mohammed?

Anser the question above.

Note: As believers( what is known as christians today), we judge scriptures by scripture by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but mohammed condemned all the scriptures so that nothing can be used to judge his words and works. So that anything that contradicts his doing in the scripture is error.

PrecisionFx:




The people living in the united states of America are Europeans. Same goes wit the people living in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

They suppress n kill the locals/owners in these countries listed above and take over their countries leadership.

For ur information, There have always been BLACK ARABS in Saudi Arabia. There's a lot u need to read oga

Can you see your flaws? you call them BLACK ARABS, just as you will call BLACK AMERICANS: blacks living in America who moved their from their origins.
To make your flaw clearer to you:
1) The Jews are not black but White.
2) they moved from Israel to Europe.
3) They stayed for a long time.

Question:
What will you call them?

incase you do not know

European Jews
Just like black americans, native americans

danvon:
alBHAGDADI is saying rubbish and you know it, it's the Bible don't twist it to support nonsense there was no nation called Israel in the new testament it was called Judea you know it's the truth

Ok, now you believe in the new testament.

Looking at the new testament,
1) Who were those described as living in all those areas?
Jews
Not muslims nor Arabs but Jews.

It was clear that they were under roman rulership

2) So, when Nigeria was still under the british, the people no longer have a land.

The Scripture is clear on all these things. The land belong to the Jews and can't be taken away.

jeruzi:
Ok, now you believe in the new testament.

Looking at the new testament,
1) Who were those described as living in all those areas?
Jews
Not muslims nor Arabs but Jews.

It was clear that they were under roman rulership

2) So, when Nigeria was still under the british, the people no longer have a land.

The Scripture is clear on all these things. The land belong to the Jews and can't be taken away.

Question: Who is a Jew?
Answer: Anyone who accepts Judaism

There's no evidence to prove these people in the middle east are Jews
The question is about Israel not Judah

jeruzi:
Can you see your flaws? you call them BLACK ARABS, just as you will call BLACK AMERICANS: blacks living in America who moved their from their origins.
To make your flaw clearer to you:
1) The Jews are not black but White.
2) they moved from Israel to Europe.
3) They stayed for a long time.

Question:
What will you call them?

incase you do not know

European Jews
Just like black americans, native americans

Let me clear u on some certain issues being a Jew doesn't mean ur a Hebrew/Israelites... This is because Jews in our time is basically anyone who practises Judaism is termed a Jew, That's why we now have Chinese Jews, American Jew Japanese Jews, French Jews, the list is endless



""The Jews are not black but White"" -----
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.angelfire.com/ill/hebrewisrael/printpages/phys.html&ved=0ahUKEwiF_ti2g6_YAhUIU1AKHW3TACEQFghEMAo&usg=AOvVaw30IFchu7kugYFD0gVvIjMw

Also pick up the book ""The international Jew", It was authored by Henry Ford (Yes, the Ford that unknown), He employed historians n archaeologists to trace the history of the so called American Jews n at the end, They are Europeans, Predominantly Khozars.

""Just like black americans"" - Oga there was black's in America long long before the arrival of the Europeans, Every continents on earth have black aborigines.

Long before today, they have been Afro Germans, Afro Argentines, Afro Russians, etc. Like I said, there's a lot u have to read.



they moved from Israel to Europe --- Useless lies. The article on angel fire website will clear this.



People living in the middle east do not have long silky hair, Blue, green etc eyes.

And u can check to, the originals of Qatar are black, pure black, Far blacker than black Africans.

Good day.

jeruzi:
If the worship of the one and true living God was passed down from generation to generation among the Jews. Then I ask you again
1) What was the god of the preislamic mecca?
2) What was the name of the quarysh (mohammed's tribe) god?
3) What was mohammed's gradfather's duty.
4) What was mohammed's father's name?
5) What was the kaaba to them?

With this few questions to start with, what then was passed unto mohammed?

Anser the question above.

your question gets as it be. Point is, they did not worship God. They deviated from the religion of Abraham and moses that was passed down to them. Your Bible attests to this.




Exodus 32

1: When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”

2: Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.”

3: So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron.

4: He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

5: When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.”

6: So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’




See the bolded, that's lies. Nabi Harun(Aaron) did not calf idol for them. They are the one that crafted golden calf and worshipped idols. This is one of the many lies fabricated in your Judeo/christian books against God's prophets. Quran repudiates their lies in similar story.



Read @underrlined, your bible attests that they are curropt. They corrupted the religion handed down to them. Qur'an says:







Surah 7, verses 152 reads as follows:

"(As for) those who took the calf (for worship), surely wrath from their Lord and humiliation shall overtake them, and thus do We recompense the devisers of lies."


This verse refers to the story of the golden calf made and worshipped by the Israelites after their exodus from Egypt. While Moses (Musa (a.s.)) was in communion with God on the heights of mount Sinai, while revelation was in the process of being sent down to him, while God was manifesting His presence to Moses and divulging to him the secrets of creation and of the structure of religion, some of the Israelites (under the direction and supervision of a person called Samiri) constructed and worshipped a statue of a golden calf.


In Sura 20 (verses 85 to 98), the qur'an tells the story of how Samiri deceived the people with the golden calf. When Moses departs for Sinai, his whole being is suffused with the power of the Divine attraction that calls him to Itself. Samiri notices something in the dust of the footsteps of Moses. It is as if there is a trace, a perfume, a presence left behind in the footsteps of those who are close to God. Samiri is able to discern this presence where others are not - so he has some degree of insight which they lack - but at the same time the lower aspect of his self (nafs al-amarra) is strong and misdirects his discernment towards a base end.


Sura 20


85: [Allah] said, "But indeed, We have tried your people after you [departed], and the Samiri has led them astray."


86: So Moses returned to his people, angry and grieved. He said, "O my people, did your Lord not make you a good promise? Then, was the time [of its fulfillment] too long for you, or did you wish that wrath from your Lord descend upon you, so you broke your promise [of obedience] to me?"


87: They said, "We did not break our promise to you by our will, but we were made to carry burdens from the ornaments of the people [of Pharaoh], so we threw them [into the fire], and thus did the Samiri throw."


88: And he extracted for them [the statue of] a calf which had a lowing sound, and they said, "This is your god and the god of Moses, but he forgot."


89: Did they not see that it could not return to them any speech and that it did not possess for them any harm or benefit?



90: And Aaron had already told them before [the return of Moses], "O my people, you are only being tested by it, and indeed, your Lord is the Most Merciful, so follow me and obey my order."



91: They said, "We will never cease being devoted to the calf until Moses returns to us."


92-93 [Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, From following me? Then have you disobeyed my order?"


94: [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.' "


95: [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samiri?"


96: He said, "I saw what they did not see, so I took a handful [of dust] from the track of the messenger and threw it, and thus did my soul entice me."


97: [Moses] said, "Then go. And indeed, it is [decreed] for you in [this] life to say, 'No contact.' And indeed, you have an appointment [in the Hereafter] you will not fail to keep. And look at your 'god' to which you remained devoted. We will surely burn it and blow it into the sea with a blast.


98: Your god is only Allah, except for whom there is no deity. He has encompassed all things in knowledge."



So you can see #86 of Quran @bold is in harmony with Ex. 7 and 8 of your Bible where moses condemned them of corruption and disobedience. Read also #90 @bold where innocence of Aron is declared. It was Samiri who led children of Israel astray at their request.

Question is, have they deviated from religion of Abraham aforetime?. You can see they have been corrupted for thousands of yrs. They are not entitled to the Holy Land

PrecisionFx:

Do a study on the demography of Israel and you will realise that the term jew is used jew is used to discribe the people.
There are Herald Jew, none herald Jews, Arab israeli.
The religion of the people is Judaism not just a tribe.
Study the Demography of Israel
My use of the word Jew is very much inplace.
So, the Europea Jews were part of the people that scattered from Israel during the Roman attack. The Jews have strong traditions and have kept them.

Empiree:

I told you that I do not want to delve deep into religion on this matter, but you insisted on it.
I asked if you will be open minded,you said it is not a matter of being open minded
I posed some questions to you, you said they were lumped up.
I posed some questions to you again, this time very well spaced, you said they are some how.

Now you are quoting falsehood to defend your errors.

Your quran talks about the Torah, Tenahk, The Holy Bible (Old and new testament). None of these satifies your quran.

We judge scriptures with scriptures, mohammed condemned all. When even Jesus that is higher than all quoted from it and did not condemn any, But He came to fulfill it. Jesus referred the people to the Books to confirm that He is the messiah.
Yet mohammed says they are all wrong.
My question to you amongst the ones I asked before is;
What is mohammed trying to hide? I want you to give your life to Jesus Christ. He is Lord.

jeruzi:
Do a study on the demography of Israel and you will realise that the term jew is used jew is used to discribe the people.
There are Herald Jew, none herald Jews, Arab israeli.
The religion the of the people is Judaism not just a tribe.
Study the Demography of Israel
My use of the word Jew is very much inplace.
So, the Europea Jews were part of the people that scattered from Israel during the Roman attack. The Jews have strong traditions and have kept them.

Read the book "The international Jew" by Henry Ford.

Also read the link I dropped in my previous post via Angelfire website.


The ball is in ur court.

U either grab the knowledge or reject it.

jeruzi:
I told you that I do not want to delve deep into religion on this matter, but you insisted on it.
I asked if you will be open minded,you said it is not a matter of being open minded
I posed some questions to you, you said they were lumped up.
I posed some questions to you again, this time very well spaced, you said they are some how.

Now you are quoting falsehood to defend your errors.

Your quran talks about the Torah, Tenahk, The Holy Bible (Old and new testament). None of these satifies your quran.

We judge scriptures with scriptures, mohammed condemned all. When even Jesus that is higher than all quoted from it and did not condemn any, But He came to fulfill it. Jesus referred the people to the Books to confirm that He is the messiah.
Yet mohammed says they are all wrong.
My question to you amongst the ones I asked before is;
What is mohammed trying to hide? I want you to give your life to Jesus Christ. He is Lord.

your understanding is quite deficient, and I think it is a waste of time to try to argue this out. You are not israeli. You are not a Jew. So you have no business defending oppression. Christians are cohoot in oppression and oppressors and their supporters can never be my friends. When America gives back America to Red Indians, only then Israel's claim may worth consideration

Empiree:
your understanding is quite deficient, and I think it is a waste of time to try to argue this out. You are not istaeli. You are not a Jew. So you have no business defending oppression. Christians are cohoot in oppression and oppressors and their supporters can never be my friends. When America gives back America to Red Indians, only then Israel's claim may worth consideration

My understanding is not deficient and can never be. I have the mind of Christ. I saw ahead. I knew this would happen. I was not looking for a friend in you, it was a debate and you couldn't stand your ground. They have the land now and nothing can take it. The picture is before all, let's see how it plays out.

Empiree:
lol, I have not even started with you guys. But since you skipped, let me bring you back small. Did the Jews dropped from the sky unto the land?. Did you read the bible that there were people also living there and Yahweh ordered them to kill Amalekites and occupied the land. This shows that they had to kill ppl to claim the land too.

O ya, let's keep dragging it

Gbam

jeruzi:
My understanding is not deficient and can never be. I have the mind of Christ. I saw ahead. I knew this would happen. I was not looking for a friend in you, it was a debate and you couldn't stand your ground. They have the land now and nothing can take it. The picture is before all, let's see how it plays out.

shaking my head. Keep serving European Jewish god

Empiree:
shaking my head. Keep serving European Jewish god

Actually it's God. smirk...Either way, it's been a wonderful debate. Happy celebration to all who sees this post.

Empiree:
shaking my head. Keep serving European Jewish god

Look who's talking. Your prophet Muhammad had black slaves. Slavery was learnt from the Arab Muslims.

Was just passing. But however, let me trow a little light. The jew s had been the real owners of Jerusalem from time. But in the year 70AD, Rome under the rulership of general Titus came and Invaded the entire city of Jerusalem, killing all the noble men and taking others captives. So, during this period the city of Jerusalem remained desolate. It was at this time that the Palestine came and took over the land, building their mosque i.e the mosque of Omar right were Solomon temple was. Before the Jews could finally return to their homeland in 1948, the Palestinian have claimed their land (God given land) so the land was never that of the Palestinians.

erifoski:
Was just passing. But however, let me trow a little light. The jew s had been the real owners of Jerusalem from time. But in the year 70AD, Rome under the rulership of general Titus came and Invaded the entire city of Jerusalem, killing all the noble men and taking others captives. So, during this period the city of Jerusalem remained desolate. It was at this time that the Palestine came and took over the land, building their mosque i.e the mosque of Omar right were Solomon temple was. Before the Jews could finally return to their homeland in 1948, the Palestinian have claimed their land (God given land) so the land was never that of the Palestinians.

You didnt read the thread. If you read, you would have seen this trash was trashed already

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-claim-to-the-land-of-israel

A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.

The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.

The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.

When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.

Sources: Moshe Kohn, “The Arabs’ ‘Lie’ of the Land,” Jerusalem Post, (October 18, 1991); Avner Yaniv, PLO, (Jerusalem: Israel Universities Study Group of Middle Eastern Affairs, August 1974), p. 5; Encyclopaedia Judaica.

"Encyclopaedia Judaica"

Pax Judaica in the making

https://www.quora.com/In-how-many-states-has-your-birthplace-been-How-many-states-through-history-limit-yourself-to-AD-if-needed-have-held-the-territory-where-your-birthplace-is-located-Which-states-were-those/answer/Uri-Granta?share=ccb7f197&srid=oP5L


This is also a very relevant piece

It's ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB1lUS6i78

Whoever cares to watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwhdcoVbPEY

Still supporting them?

Netanyahu asks if African ‘infiltrators’ can be forcibly removed from Israel. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw9pLOqTc

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The "chosen people" indeed.