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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Rohr may not take Nwakaeme and and Onyekuru to the world cup. Out of the 3 mentioned, Ighalo is the best bet to make the team.
Any sane person without myopic reasoning should counter what I said intelligently with concrete facts.
misread your post. My apologies
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:20pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
From the 90's till now is just 28 years. We are on track considering we don't even have the support of a good local league. Spain for all her glory clubs only got herself into football records in 2008-2012, England is to be pitied.
The issue for me is not a matter of set. The issue is why do we produce average players? During the time of the golden generation not more than two or three made names. If not for national team football most of them they were unknown. That's how average they were. Fact! Which one was mentioned with George Weah, with shearer, with Owen, with Gullit, with Stoichkov, with Hagi, with Baresi, with Raul? None.
How could you have made this statement? I don't believe I need to list achievements of the golden generation in a Super Super Eagles thread to win an argument.
I want to believe you typed the bolded in a hurry, I will give you that benefit of doubt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:25pm On Dec 29, 2017
komekn:
Firstly, in your quest to prove biased undue dislike you muddle the issues moving the goal posts. You make a proposition but with no substance.

Consider your proposition in bold. Firstly, I will reiterate there is a HUGE GULF AND DISPARITY between U17 and U20.

U17 is characterised by players some even 15 who have never played a senior professional game. The dynamics are different they are academy players mostly showing promise. They are not professional players yet mostly.

The U20 set up is intrinsically and entirely different across Europe not just England. We are not looking at prospects but seasoned young professional players at top clubs. For instance consider Demarai Grey he has played 160 professional games with 60 of those games in the EPL. There are other with far less games a reflection of the top clubs they play at and limited opportunities.

When you win an accolade as a young professional player as best U20 world cup playersl, you are really being recognised professionally. It's gone beyond prospect and potential. That's why clubs were queuing up to buy him incredibly cheap as well.

I DO NOT DO DOUBLE STANDARDS that would be deception and unprofessionalism. There is one yardstick in England for all players it doesn't change because you are Nigerian. I will not say treat players with kids gloves. ITS VERY TOUGH the competition is nasty, it's not fair, it's even corrupt. I prepare players for the reality of football not adulation from the terraces. I prepare them for WAR so they can succeed and not fail. I don't give false promises or pain things with rose tinted spectacles so they can feel good.

If I was advising KC he would not be in the quagmire he is in now. He is an excellent player but I've seen many excellent players fail. Because of not taking constructive criticism the right positional strategy and believing the distractive misguided hype from fans like you.


You ABSOLUTELY have no idea about the spirit behind what propels me
or the intention behind my words. I face 1000% more racism each day than you can imagine. I overcome because I'm prepared for battle.

In that regard succes comes to those who are diligent in discipline and pursuing excellence. Overcoming multiple obstacles fair and unfair. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
I don't dislike anybody. The point that skips your mind is that even if Osimhen were to do what Solanke has done it would mean nothing to you because your prejudice would blind you to see it. The way you turned a blind eye to Iheanacho's performance at city and was praising and comparing Solanke who is yet to score a single league game proves the point I am trying to make. Sir, you are one of the least objective posters here but you are blithely unaware of it.

Perhaps you have suffered racism for so long, fought it for so long you now suffer from inverted racism. As in you direct the angst you feel not at the white man but to the black man whom you might at some level feel is responsible for the racist battles you have had to fight. Just like a poor man who becomes rich hating the poor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 2:28pm On Dec 29, 2017
safarigirl:
ask yourself, if Nigerians had voted more than Arabs, if Junior Ajayi would have seen up to 10% votes sef.

So, now it is Arabs we should use to judge how good our players are? No longer what FIFA says?

BTW, the question says:

Who is the best Offensive Midfielder IN Africa....which means, even CAF does not understand the question


That question is different from: Who is the best African Offensive Midfielder ...such a question will merit the inclusion of Sane and Brahimi....and the result may be different
I stated that most votes there were from Arabs confirming that sentiments wasn't a factor

I believe the person running the page is an Egyptian and translation here could be a problem

As clearly the nominees indicate the award is actually for best African outfield mid fielder
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:29pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
How could you have made this statement? I don't believe I need to list achievements of the golden generation in a Super Super Eagles thread to win an argument.
I want to believe you typed the bolded in a hurry, I will give you that benefit of doubt
I meant everyword of the bolded. Please tell me what each of the players in that set achieved at club level. And tell me which one was could be mentioned in the same breath as Baggio, or Gullit, or van Basten or Hagi or George Weah.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:33pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
[author=komekn post=63710531]

To this day the fans in Everton remember Amokachi with fond memories. Not too long ago at a match he was given a standing ovation.

When he was at Brugge he was considering one of the best strikers in that league. He was being courted by a lot of top European clubs after Nigeria's exploits in the World Cup of 1994.



The Amokachi in Belgium was not the same Amokachi in Everton: 43 appearances 10 goals.yet Iheanacho 46 appearances 12 goals for Man city is your sworn attack target.



Consider that Amunike had left Sporting for Barcelona.
WC year Amunike was in Lisbon. After that he went to the Barcelona you are joyously putting forth. Well, here is Amunike at Barca for you: 1996-2000, 19 appearances, 1goal.

Taribo was considered one of the best defenders in Europe. If I'm right he played two seasons for Inter without missing any games almost. Uche was the top defender in the Turkish league for Fenerbache, Oliseh, Finidi, Kanu, Yekini, Babayaro, Okocha, Ikpeba were top players playing in the top teams of Europe not in the backwaters or warming the bench permanently.
First Taribo, Kanu, Babayaro, Babangida were not in the USA 94 set at 94. They joined later I think after the Olympics. But then let me put things in perspective: Uche was a defender in Turkey not a top defender. That's your own palatable spin. Ekong could as well be called top defenders. They are in the same Turkey. And you didn't mention Uche Okafor who was in Isreal, nor Ezeugo who was in India. Okocha was struggling for game time in Eintract frankfurt, Ikpeba had not yet blossomed in Monaco. Yekini was playing for a division two team. Kanu was getting cameo appearances at Ajax unlike Finidi. I don't see anything exceptional those guys did in their clubs that this guys have not done and wait let them go to the WC first. Judging them now with 94 set and their post WC activities is what tbaba1234 calls false equivalency.

Add to that list the much under rated but top quality players in the name of Wilson Oruma, Tijani Babangida, Adepoju.

Compared to what we have now. We have gone from shopping in Harrods to the £1 pound bargain basement shop. That's regression.

Our back line of Uche, Taribo, Babayaro, we're seasoned first team players for too clubs in Europe.

Compare that to Balogun, Ekong and Echiejile.
Only Echiejile gets the stick. Ekong and Balogun are as good as Taribo and Uche.
What we have are in all honesty below average players particularly in comparison to the pre millennium SE. You can have all the team spirit you like that will only carry you so far. In the end quality gets you ahead.
You have created a romantic vision of the past (and I understand) but I will always be here to inject healthy doses of reality to dispel your false notions. This team is as average as the 94 set. The facts speak for themselves.
But this 'below average team' as you put would become stellar if Solanke, Tega, Tammy, Josh Maja, Onomah, Seyi Ojo etc are in the team abi?
Facts are consistent, facts are stubborn, facts are sometimes inconvenient if it doesn't fit your narrative. Carry on the good work of bursting myths and bringing out the true state of affairs
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:34pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Etebo should be regular not 'fairly regular'.

Ezenwa, i believe just signed for Enyimba.

Otherwise, great list.
Thanks for the corrections.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:36pm On Dec 29, 2017
kennysville:
So also is qualifying for the world cup......

Question is ... is it do-able? Answer is a resounding YES!!!
Of course, impossible is nothing but you must understand ths realities on ground.

We still have uncertainties surrounding our Gk
Our best defender cannot get a game in a mid table German club, the rest of our defenders play in the championship, Holland, Cyprus, Belgium and average Turkish clubs.
Our best midfielder is based in China, while the support cast play for average Turkish clubs, Isreal and mid table premiership club

The attack is spearheaded by a Chinese based striker and Chelsea's right back. Leicester city misfits and a hot and cold Belgium based winger make up the numbers

Yes, impossible is nothing but we must not overrate ourselves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:47pm On Dec 29, 2017
chrisooblog:
Facts are consistent, facts are stubborn, facts are sometimes inconvenient if it doesn't fit your narrative. Carry on the good work of bursting myths and bringing out the true state of affairs
Yes my brother. Like Kog.45 said they can deceive those who didn't watch football in the 90's but even the Internet will not allow them do that. If not for the Internet I don't think my memory would have been able to withstand the propaganda of this guys.

The one that is worse is the two who want the team to be populated by players they love. I swear to you once the Ajagun's, the Josh maja, the ojos fill the team, all this cry that the team is filled with below average players will cease. Instead of them to own up to the fact that they are not emotionally satisfied with the team, they under under the team is below average to make their point. But I can see through their ruse.

Imagine komekn using Rashidi to celebrate. I showed him that by his own philosophy, Rashidi will not smell the Eagles, imagine him using Amokachi at Everton, yet turning a blind eye to Iheanacho. Imagine him using an Amunike who for four years (I know Amunike struggled with injuries) at barca had 16 appearances and scored one goal yet he will not give Osimhen breathing space. Imagine him talking about Ikpeba yet glibly forgetting that for 3 seasons at Monaco Ikpeba struggled yet just one season of Iheanacho struggling at Leicester has made him wax a tune on the boy's plight.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:51pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
I meant everyword of the bolded. Please tell me what each of the players in that set achieved at club level. And tell me which one was could be mentioned in the same breath as Baggio, or Gullit, or van Basten or Hagi or George Weah.
HOw many players in the world could measure up to those names you listed?

Our guys made the best out of what they had at the time.
Finidi was rated as the world best winger at the time. I watched with pride a 30 mins documentary on espn classic years back on Finidi. He is a proper legend of Ajax and indeed European football.

Emma Amuneke was something else in his prime. I came across El Hadji Diouf's interview when he was at Liverpool which he named Amuneke as his childhood idol. It dawned on me at the time that this guy indeed inspired young players across Africa not just in Nigeria.

Amokachi is a proper legend and a very big name in Belgium. Historically, he scored the first ever champions league goal.

I would have continued listing achievements of Yekini, Kanu, Okocha, Keshi, Richard Owobokiri, Oliseh, Rufai, Celestine BabYaro, Victor ikpeba, Taribo, etc , but it will turn into a blog post.
Let's stop here abeg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:59pm On Dec 29, 2017
PROVERBZ:
Junior ajayi and stanley ohawuchi where amongst the top 5 best players in Egypt 10
Egypt's squad for the world cup is mostly Egyptian league based players

Many people(non nigerians) would argue that the Egyptian team is better Dan the super eagles .


How do we choose our players iwobi and iheanacho are not really good if u put sentiments apart just check arsenal page after most games iwobi plays and see the awful comments about him there

We have Ahmed musa who hasnt played a game for so longbut still makes our squad

we are busy clamouring for euro born players at their 6ixteens with no assurance that they would be great players and we avoid the home grown players doing well

my people before u start asking for solanke tomori or any oda players with Nigerians parents born in Europe that nobody knows about with no zeal or dream to play for the super eagles


Ask urself have u given the real Nigerians a fare shot??

Here Arabs voted for jnr ajayi against sadio mane and another Arab guy ask urself if it were iwobi if the results would still go in out favour
My brother,the matter tire me ooo..
This particular problem seems to be rife in every sector of this country... We won't develop our owns despite that we have the resources to do so,but rather we are looking up to the West for help... The ongoing fuel scarcity issue is one of the many consequences
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:00pm On Dec 29, 2017
A few things.

Between 1994 and 1998, it was difficult to name world class players without including Nigerians.

Oliseh
West
Finidi
Kanu
Ikpeba
etc

We do not have that now. Nigerians are mostly omitted in that conversation. That is why the 1998 WC team individually has the best quality.

However, in 1994, the team was not yet rated at that level. Because, there appears to be a confusion here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:02pm On Dec 29, 2017
PROVERBZ:
Junior ajayi and stanley ohawuchi where amongst the top 5 best players in Egypt 10
Egypt's squad for the world cup is mostly Egyptian league based players

Many people(non nigerians) would argue that the Egyptian team is better Dan the super eagles .


How do we choose our players iwobi and iheanacho are not really good if u put sentiments apart just check arsenal page after most games iwobi plays and see the awful comments about him there

We have Ahmed musa who hasnt played a game for so longbut still makes our squad

we are busy clamouring for euro born players at their 6ixteens with no assurance that they would be great players and we avoid the home grown players doing well

my people before u start asking for solanke tomori or any oda players with Nigerians parents born in Europe that nobody knows about with no zeal or dream to play for the super eagles


Ask urself have u given the real Nigerians a fare shot??

Here Arabs voted for jnr ajayi against sadio mane and another Arab guy ask urself if it were iwobi if the results would still go in out favour
I talked up Stanley Ohuawuchi sometime ago. The guy caused African defenders headache these past few years in the champions league.
Junior Ajayi looks a good prospect from what I saw last season but I'm not fully convinced.

I really fear for Iwobi, he havent acquainted himself well om the Arsenal team. Just a goal to his name all season is simply not good enough. He had a very torrid performance against Liverpool but people here will prefer to play the ostrich.
With Wilshire coming back to form and contract negotiations in view, Iwobi could see less playing time this new year.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:08pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Nigerian players play different roles at club level and national team level. Mikel and Moses, who are more defensive players at club level, play more adventurous roles in the national team. Iheanacho has not always played the top 9 role for Nigeria even against Argentina. Shehu plays as a right back.etc

It is not always useful comparing club form to national team.

In 2002, Henry and Trezeguet were unstoppable at club level but could not bark in the world cup.

We just need the players in top physical and mental shape.
Playing different roles for club and country is not always a good thing.
This affected the balance of the English national team for years when they teied to shoehorn lampard and Gerrard in the same team. Capello and the other managers stuck Gerrard on the wings. We know how the storh ended.

The partnership of Henry and Trezeguet gave France the the European championship in 2000. The 2002 team failed in Korea and Japan due to off field issues just like witnessed in 2010.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:11pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Yes my brother. Like Kog.45 said they can deceive those who didn't watch football in the 90's but even the Internet will not allow them do that. If not for the Internet I don't think my memory would have been able to withstand the propaganda of this guys.

The one that is worse is the two who want the team to be populated by players they love. I swear to you once the Ajagun's, the Josh maja, the ojos fill the team, all this cry that the team is filled with below average players will cease. Instead of them to own up to the fact that they are not emotionally satisfied with the team, they under under the team is below average to make their point. But I can see through their ruse.

Imagine komekn using Rashidi to celebrate. I showed him that by his own philosophy, Rashidi will not smell the Eagles, imagine him using Amokachi at Everton, yet turning a blind eye to Iheanacho. Imagine him using an Amunike who for four years (I know Amunike struggled with injuries) at barca had 16 appearances and scored one goal yet he will not give Osimhen breathing space. Imagine him talking about Ikpeba yet glibly forgetting that for 3 seasons at Monaco Ikpeba struggled yet just one season of Iheanacho struggling at Leicester has made him wax a tune on the boy's plight.
bros the thing weak me sef to the extent he cooked up some imaginary goals that dominic solanke scored to fit into his better than kc narrative or how he's always on osimhen's case or dismissive of kenneth omeruo's contributions to the national team just because he wants to promote someone else over him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:11pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
I talked up Stanley Ohuawuchi sometime ago. The guy caused African defenders headache these past few years in the champions league.
Junior Ajayi looks a good prospect from what I saw last season but I'm not fully convinced.

I really fear for Iwobi, he havent acquainted himself well om the Arsenal team. Just a goal to his name all season is simply not good enough. He had a very torrid performance against Liverpool but people here will prefer to play the ostrich.
With Wilshire coming back to form and contract negotiations in view, Iwobi could see less playing time this new year.
Iwobi had a bad first half, that was clear. Wilshere is playing a deeper role and is not in competition with Iwobi.

Iwobi has not been bad this season. I have seen games where Iwobi is one of the few Arsenal players doing anything of note. But i go online and see ridiculous comments. Sanchez has been far more atrocious but does not get as much stick.

Iwobi needs to convert his game play into goals and assists. Fans do not read stats on whoscored.com, all they see are goals and assists.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
goldfish80:
HOw many players in the world could measure up to those names you listed?

Our guys made the best out of what they had at the time.
Finidi was rated as the world best winger at the time. I watched with pride a 30 mins documentary on espn classic years back on Finidi. He is a proper legend of Ajax and indeed European football.

Emma Amuneke was something else in his prime. I came across El Hadji Diouf's interview when he was at Liverpool which he named Amuneke as his childhood idol. It dawned on me at the time that this guy indeed inspired young players across Africa not just in Nigeria.

Amokachi is a proper legend and a very big name in Belgium. Historically, he scored the first ever champions league goal.

I would have continued listing achievements of Yekini, Kanu, Okocha, Keshi, Richard Owobokiri, Oliseh, Rufai, Celestine BabYaro, Victor ikpeba, Taribo, etc , but it will turn into a blog post.
Let's stop here abeg
You have not listed any achievements. Just names and clubs. I laughed when someone said that Amokachi was acknowledged in the stadium at Everton. That's nothing because the white man does such things as a courtesy.theres no time Jay Jay goes to Eintracht frankfurt and he's no given standing ovation yet some will see that and think Jay Jay was a beast for frankfurt meanwhile my guy was not even a regular as such. Tell me the club achievement of the individual players that made the USA 94 and France 98 team apart from the usual suspects. What is the achievement of Oliseh, Rufai? Okafor, Chidi Nwanu, Jay Jay, mobi oparaku, Godwin Okpara, Iroha, Taribo. They were just regular players playing for their clubs.

You are doing something deceptive here and I will point it out to you now: you look at this players across the span of their professional careers and compare them to the present crop whose careers are still unfolding and say the older guys are super at club levels. Apart from Amokachi and Rashidi and Finidi, tell me where the 94 team players were before 94(WC year like majority of this set are) i have pointed out that player for player the 94 set were better. But club wise abeg drop it. They are on the same level.

So you think Onyekuru will not be given legend treatment when twenty years time he goes to Belgium? Wasn't Kayode top scorer in Austria? It's a fiction this narrative you guys are pushing. And ultimately it's pointless because remove this current guys from the picture. Who do you want in the team in place of Vicmo, Mikel? Amunike is an inspiration. Is that it? So have you not read at least three players saying Mikel is their inspiration?
This comparisons are a waste of time. It's like comparing Rohr with Westerhof. It would turn out to be ridiculous because Rohr is just starting. All the facts on his performance are not yet in but all the facts on Westerhof are settled.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:21pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Playing different roles for club and country is not always a good thing.
This affected the balance of the English national team for years when they teied to shoehorn lampard and Gerrard in the same team. Capello and the other managers stuck Gerrard on the wings. We know how the storh ended.

The partnership of Henry and Trezeguet gave France the the European championship in 2000. The 2002 team failed in Korea and Japan due to off field issues just like witnessed in 2010.
For Nigeria, it has not worked badly thus far.

You recognised here that there are other factors to success not just player club form. The incredible club form of Henry and Trezeguet could not be translated into success at the WC.

The costa rica team in Brazil was not much to write home about but they shocked bigger teams. A good coach works to the strengths of his available players. We see Nigeria has been more organised defensively in recent times and very willing to launch effective counters.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:28pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
You have not listed any achievements. Just names and clubs. I laughed when someone said that Amokachi was acknowledged in the stadium at Everton. That's nothing because the white man does such things as a courtesy.theres no time Jay Jay goes to Eintracht frankfurt and he's no given standing ovation yet some will see that and think Jay Jay was a beast for frankfurt meanwhile my guy was not even a regular as such.



You are doing something deceptive here and I will point it out to you now: you look at this players across the span of their professional careers and compare them to the present crop and say they are super at club levels. Apart from Amokachi and Rashidi and Finidi, tell me where the 94 team players were in before 94(WC year like majority of this set are) i have pointed out that player for player the 94 set were better. But club wise abeg drop it. They are on the same level.

So you think Onyekuru will not be given legend treatment when twenty years time he goes to Belgium? Wasn't Kayode top scorer in Austria? It's a fiction this narrative you guys are pushing. And ultimately it's pointless because remove this current guys from the picture. Who do you want in the team in place of Vicmo, Mikel? Amunike is an inspiration. Is that it? So have you not read at least three players saying Mikel is their inspiration?
This comparisons are a waste of time. It's like comparing Rohr with Westerhof. It would turn out to be ridiculous because Rohr is just starting. All the facts on his performance are not yet in but all the facts on Westerhof are settled.
Can you mention a non Nigerian player who listed Mikel as an inspiration? I'm interested in this case. I want to learn something new
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:32pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
For Nigeria, it has not worked badly thus far.

You recognised here that there are other factors to success not just player club form. The incredible club form of Henry and Trezeguet could not be translated into success at the WC.

The costa rica team in Brazil was not much to write home about but they shocked bigger teams. A good coach works to the strengths of his available players. We see Nigeria has been more organised defensively in recent times and very willing to launch effective counters.
of course the story of the underdog like Costa Rica inspires,but it will be tomfoolery to use Costa Rica's achievement as a case in point to overrate our team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:32pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Playing different roles for club and country is not always a good thing.
This affected the balance of the English national team for years when they teied to shoehorn lampard and Gerrard in the same team. Capello and the other managers stuck Gerrard on the wings. We know how the storh ended.

The partnership of Henry and Trezeguet gave France the the European championship in 2000. The 2002 team failed in Korea and Japan due to off field issues just like witnessed in 2010.
Why is that there are always excuses for failure but none for success? The French team of 2002 had off field issues? Abeg tell me what it was cos the only thing I remember then was that Zidane wasn't exactly fit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 3:34pm On Dec 29, 2017
Every and anybody can criticize, it's not like it is a big deal to criticize, it's not rocket science to put down this team with negativism,
but with criticism, should come feasible solutions

And if you can't provide solutions, you as well can shove your criticism down your throat, keep quiet , it is not needed..

All some people do is complain "that is this " , "this is that" without bring something "new" to redeem the situation..

Just keep quiet sometimes, and enjoy the moment.. No need to give yourself heart attack .. Ejor bikonu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
of course the story of the underdog like Costa Rica inspires,but it will be tomfoolery to use Costa Rica's achievement as a case in point to overrate our team.
This is the thing, we have a good enough side to shock anyone. We will not be easy to beat. Even in the last WC, with a weaker squad, we were not easy to beat.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:38pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Can you mention a non Nigerian player who listed Mikel as an inspiration? I'm interested in this case. I want to learn something new
So it's no longer about inspiration but the nationality of the person inspired . I should look for a Senegalese or German inspired by Mikel?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:39pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Iwobi had a bad first half, that was clear. Wilshere is playing a deeper role and is not in competition with Iwobi.

Iwobi has not been bad this season. I have seen games where Iwobi is one of the few Arsenal players doing anything of note. But i go online and see ridiculous comments. Sanchez has been far more atrocious but does not get as much stick.

Iwobi needs to convert his game play into goals and assists. Fans do not read stats on whoscored.com, all they see are goals and assists.
Will disagree with you vehemently. I regard Arsenal fans as the most intelligent set of fans in the world.
Iwobi doesnt get as much stick Ramsey, Xhaka, Giroud,Sanchez, Wenger,Kronke or Oezil receives.
Some of the criticism that came Oezil and Wenger's way is borderline hate speech which should see some people arrested.
Iwobi would have been suicidal if he got half of what is thrown at these guys I listed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:42pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Will disagree with yiu vehemently. I regard Arsenal fans as the most intelligent set of fans in the world.
Iwobi doesnt get as much stick Ramsey, Xhaka, Giroud,Sanchez, Wenger,Kronke or Oezil receives.
Some of the criticism Oezil and Wenger receives is borderline hate speech which should see some people arrested.
Iwobi would have been suicidal if he got half of what is thrown at these guys I listed.
If you live in the realm of an Arsensl fan, you will understand the negativity that many fans seem to possess, always looking for someone to blame.

Most times, the criticisms are unfair.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:42pm On Dec 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
So it's no longer about inspiration but the nationality of the person inspired . I should look for a Senegalese or German inspired by Mikel?
Yes, it says a lot about the global value of an individual if people outside his country or race regard the individual as inspiration.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:45pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
If you live in the realm of an Arsensl fan, you will understand the negativity that many fans seem to possess, always looking for someone to blame.

Most times, the criticisms are unfair.
Iwobi is not one of those targeted for their hate speech. That was the impression I wanted to correct.
I pity Oezil at times when I read the trash they write about him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:46pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
This is the thing, we have a good enough side to shock anyone. We will not be easy to beat. Even in the last WC, with a weaker squad, we were not easy to beat.
I appreciate your humility. Not the chest beating and gra gra comments I've been reading since the seedings were made.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 3:56pm On Dec 29, 2017
goldfish80:
I appreciate your humility. Not the chest beating and gra gra comments I've been reading since the seedings were made.
oga, what do you want to hear on a Nigerian forum?

"That we will not come out of the group stage, because our players are very poor, we should not hope because our strikers are not banging goals every weekend"

Ahh some people tire me sef.. Be realistic bro, as long as we have qualified, every Nigerian has the right to beat their chest, on their own forum, the boys deserve our confidence, and we are confident in them, despite thier travails, we believe them... And if the "believe" in the team is paining you.. Then bro, you could just ignore..


Or what you want to hear is " we will get trashed, loose all our games, in fact, we would be the worst team in the tournament" I have said it, are you happy now?

Na wetin you wan hear be that on a Nigerian forum? Braaa nawa for you sef..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:00pm On Dec 29, 2017
Is this really necessary?

Haba! Be gentle to the lady now wink


O pari o

goldfish80:
Rohr may not take Nwakaeme and and Onyekuru to the world cup. Out of the 3 mentioned, Ighalo is the best bet to make the team.
[color=#000000]Any sane person without myopic reasoning should counter what I said intelligently with concrete facts[/color].
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:03pm On Dec 29, 2017
Dannyxy:
oga, what do you want to hear on a Nigerian forum?

"That we will not come out of the group stage, because our players are very poor, we should not hope because our strikers are not banging goals every weekend"

Ahh some people tire me sef.. Be realistic bro, as long as we have qualified, every Nigerian has the right to beat their chest, on their own forum, the boys deserve our confidence, and we are confident in them, despite thier travails, we believe them... And if the "believe" in the team is paining you.. Then bro, you could just ignore..


Or what you want to hear is " we will get trashed, loose all our games, in fact, we would be the worst team in the tournament" I have said it, are you happy now?

Na wetin you wan hear be that on a Nigerian forum? Braaa nawa for you sef..
This really cracked me up grin grin grin
Enjoy the rest of the holidays
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