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Icon79:
Is this really necessary?

Haba! Be gentle to the lady now


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tbaba1234:
A few things.

Between 1994 and 1998, it was difficult to name world class players without including Nigerians.

Oliseh
West
Finidi
Kanu
Ikpeba
etc

We do not have that now. Nigerians are mostly omitted in that conversation. That is why the 1998 WC team individually has the best quality.

However, in 1994, the team was not yet rated at that level. Because, there appears to be a confusion here.

Danielnino00:
Meanwhile, Rohr's favorite son(as some people on this thread call him) turns 19 today...


Happy birthday to him.. Hopefully he gets a loan move or more playing time next year .. He can't keep wasting away on Wolfsburg bench like that

tbaba1234:
Iwobi had a bad first half, that was clear. Wilshere is playing a deeper role and is not in competition with Iwobi.

Iwobi has not been bad this season. I have seen games where Iwobi is one of the few Arsenal players doing anything of note. But i go online and see ridiculous comments. Sanchez has been far more atrocious but does not get as much stick.

Iwobi needs to convert his game play into goals and assists. Fans do not read stats on whoscored.com, all they see are goals and assists.

goldfish80:
It was just a fair old banter. No malice intended

tbaba1234:
Croatia plays Peru on March 23rd
and Mexico on March 27

I assume, these games are to prepare for Argentina.

safarigirl:
which kain agbero hair e carry for head so? Doesn't fit him at all, he should go back to his low cut mbok

Happy birthday to the pikin

tbaba1234:
Davor Suker is the head of the Croatian Football Federation.

Icon79:
Yea. I don't think that they are taking us too serious. But I would definitely be watching those two games. Mexico actually plays a little similar to Nigeria tho.

And by the way, any info on Iceland friendly schedules? That's one team I would be interested to watch since they are the dark horse of the group.



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Icon79:
Yea. I don't think that they are taking us too serious. But I would definitely be watching those two games. Mexico actually plays a little similar to Nigeria tho.

And by the way, any info on Iceland friendly schedules? That's one team I would be interested to watch since they are the dark horse of the group.



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owbabs:
How does Mexico play similar to Nigeria?

Croatia are going to play an African team as the world cup approaches

Icon4s:
Europeans are not like Africans that leave some stones unturned.

Not having any sealed friendlies against any African side yet does not mean they are not taking us too seriously. There is still a window for more friendlies.

That aside, Argentina are the strongest team in our group. So they deserve all the attention.

goldfish80:
I appreciate your humility. Not the chest beating and gra gra comments I've been reading since the seedings were made.

goldfish80:
Yes, it says a lot about the global value of an individual if people outside his country or race regard the individual as inspiration.

Danielnino00:
Meanwhile, Rohr's favorite son(as some people on this thread call him) turns 19 today...


Happy birthday to him.. Hopefully he gets a loan move or more playing time next year .. He can't keep wasting away on Wolfsburg bench like that

komekn:
To this day the fans in Everton remember Amokachi with fond memories. Not too long ago at a match he was given a standing ovation.

When he was at Brugge he was considering one of the best strikers in that league. He was being courted by a lot of top European clubs after Nigeria's exploits in the World Cup of 1994.

Consider that Amunike had left Sporting for Barcelona.

Taribo was considered one of the best defenders in Europe. If I'm right he played two seasons for Inter without missing any games almost. Uche was the top defender in the Turkish league for Fenerbache, Oliseh, Finidi, Kanu, Yekini, Babayaro, Okocha, Ikpeba were top players playing in the top teams of Europe not in the backwaters or warming the bench permanently.

Add to that list the much under rated but top quality players in the name of Wilson Oruma, Tijani Babangida, Adepoju.

Compared to what we have now. We have gone from shopping in Harrods to the £1 pound bargain basement shop. That's regression.

Our back line of Uche, Taribo, Babayaro, we're seasoned first team players for too clubs in Europe.

Compare that to Balogun, Ekong and Echiejile.

What we have are in all honesty below average players particularly in comparison to the pre millennium SE. You can have all the team spirit you like that will only carry you so far. In the end quality gets you ahead.

Mujtahida:
He! Comments here generally have been measured especially from the regulars. Hopeful, expectant but not boastful.
This is why I often intervene to correct wrong perceptions and once a person does that it's taken that the person is supporting the status quo. Let me give an example. A moniker was opposed to Martins. Said is no good for the team because he plays in China. I had to intervene to point out that Ighalo plays in China. I did so not necessarily because I support Martins but because his reasons for opposing Martins were not valid.

Take the current debate: I am well aware of the defencies of this team and I did say you are well within your place to question the performance of the players in their rights as players. But I will burst the myth that seeks to elevate the golden generation's club placements and performance over these current guys because the facts simply do not support such a view even if it's the romantic view held by most dreamy eyed Nigerians. Just yesterday I discovered setubal which Rashidi was playing for was a relegation team except one season throughout the four years he was there. Do I hate Rashidi? No but facts are facts.

So what you just said is hardly true about forumites being boastful is simply not true.

tbaba1234:
Davor Suker is the head of the Croatian Football Federation.

Mujtahida:
Claude Puel on Musa not playing

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He’s a good player with quality. For me he’s not a striker, he’s a winger who can play on the left or right,” Puel explained.
“He can attack space, has good penetration but there’s imbalance in competition with (Marc) Albrighton, (Demarai) Gray and (Riyad) Mahrez.
“Sometimes it’s tough, it’s difficult for the staff to make a choice and give him more game time but in training sessions he always has a positive attitude and this is very important for him and the squad.”
Source : Completesportsnigeria.com

goldfish80:
Rashidi played for relegation candidates Setubal , he was the least paid player in the team,yet he emerged top scorer in the league 2 seasons in a row.
This record screams quality and outstanding performance.
I really can't figure what you're trying to prove

Mujtahida:
They were not relegation candidates. They played only one season in the primera division throughout the time Rashidi was there. Basically he was playing for a division two club in Portugal.
Point is that those who look at the quality of a club before giving a player chance in the team would have used the fact that Rashidi was playing for a division two club to criticize his inclusion in the team not to talk of being our top nine. They will not see the fact that his scoring such goals in a wretched team shows his class, they will just close their minds and start reeling names of other players.

Mujtahida:
Okay, let's wait till Mikel retires from football then cos Diouf and Amunike weren't contemporaries.
Meanwhile this Amunike/Mikel issue proves my point(I know they they don't play the same wing) Amunike has more individual quality but club wise Mikel achieved more.

goldfish80:
Rashidi came to the team when they were in division 2, his goals helped them gain promotion (top scorer in div 2)
In the Premiere, he emerged top scorer and claimed the Apoty. (He achieved all these while being the least paid player in the club)

One again, I don't know what youre trying to prove. I have never judged a player by the league they played. I look at performance.

I honestly cannot figure out the corner stone of your argument.

goldfish80:
What's my business with what Mikel achieved with Chelsea? Aveerage player like Ricardo Feriera and Salomon Kalou also achieved with Chelsea .A very poor player like Djimi Traore won the champions league with Liverpool . This is a team sport after all.
Pound for pound, player for player Mikel has nothing on Amuneke.

Let's be pragmatic please, Mikel is not influential across the continent. He was never a big name or stood out for Chelsea like Drogba.

TheGoodJoe:
Mikel Obi did not earn raving reviews because he did not play a flamboyant role but he was influential in Chelsea playing a vital role for the club. During that period, Chelsea was one of the most successful clubs in World football.

Due to his sacrifice for football, people may not be screaming his name but sure, Mikel Obi is one of the biggest icons of African football.

Tell them I said that.

Icon79:
Omo, you don't need to play a flamboyant role to get rave reviews. Think N'Golo Kante, Nemanje Matic; Sergio Busquets; Casimiro; Michael Essien' etc.



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TheGoodJoe:
Sergio Busquets is Barcelona bred. The Catalans will praise him for his deep understanding of the game. I bet if Mikel Obi was doing what he did at Barcelona, I bet he would have earned reviews.

Makalele did not get praise until Zidane spoke up of his importance. Matic has some screamers in his locker but I doubt anyone is praising Matic to the level of Drogba. He is never going to be a bigger name than Mikel Obi in Chelsea.