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alBHAGDADI:
Daddy Freeze is one ignorant fellow who will lead many astray.

He claims that the requirement to have eternal life is by loving God and one's neighbors alone. He went further to state that as long as a Muslim is able to do those things, he will have eternal life without even believing in Jesus and accepting him as Lord and Savior.

What Daddy Freeze doesn't know is that being a MUSLIM is enough to prevent anyone from Loving God and also his neighbors. Being a Muslims means you obey the content of the Quran and what Muhammad says. Now, let's see what the Quran says about how a Muslim is to treat his neighbor.


Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the JEWS and the CHRISTIANS before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads FORCE him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer

Quran 48:29
Sahih International: Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Abu Dawud (41:4832) - The Messenger of Allah [said] "Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious."


Now, I ask, where is the love of one's neighbor in the above Islamic text? Where at all can we find a command from Allah to Love one's neighbor, be it Jew or Christian in all Islamic texts, the quran and hadiths?


The reason why Christians hammer on the fact that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your Master is not only because it is written in the Bible as the requirement to meeting God...


John 14:16
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


...but also because his ways and teachings are the only way you can be able to love your neighbor and love God.


[b]Mathew 5:43-45

43You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Mathew 5:39
38You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well;

Matthew 6:14-15

For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mark 11:25

And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”

Matthew 18:21-22

Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.[/b]


Now, tell me how you won't be able to make heaven when you believe the words of Jesus Christ. But you can't do such while remaining a Muslim or Bhuddist. Allah has stated it that very soon Muslims will cast terror into the hearts of Christians cos they believe that Jesus is God, meaning they have joined companions with God.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Their Prophet Muhammad also spoke of how trees will call on Muslims to kill Jews.

Sahih Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

If Daddy Freeze believes that Jesus was not a Christian but a JEW, then it means that the same spirit which inspired the people that killed Jesus who was a Jew is also inspiring Muslims to kill his Jewish brothers.

For all those who are dazzled by Freeze and his false teachings, I pity for you. He is very shallow and can't stand a debate. He is only succeeding in fooling people who are ignorant. No wonder all his followers use to be fools under chalatan pastors.

greatman247:
LOL. But you are so right though. I don't even know tagged Islam the religion of peace when they can't tolerate others to comment in a hash manner on their section and yet they come to Christian section to criticize the pastors. Nairaland show see to this, if they don't don't then they are bias. I agree with Daddy Freeze on the issue of tithe and on this one.

dominique:
That's a bloody lie! Atheists and other denominations of Christians criticize pastors and churches than Muslims do. Most of you people wailing about the restrictions in the Muslim sction were not here in 2006, 2007 and 2008 when religion section covered both Christians and Muslim topics. Back then, the few Muslims topics were littered with insults and mockery by atheists. The Islam section was created to curb the level of insensitive posts made against Islam and Muslims on a daily basis.

If only you tolerant Christians had been less insultive about other people's beliefs, there probably wouldn't have been an Islam section in the first place.

ollah1:
You said this

"So tell me how a pagan or Muslim who doesn't believe in Jesus will make heaven."

alBHAGDADI:
If you had read the entire Luke 19, you would have realized that Jesus was telling a parable. It wasn't a statement of what he is doing.

Now, for Luke 12 and Mathew 10, they both speak of the same thing except that you failed to quote the rest of Mathew 10. If you had done that, you would have realized that the sword Jesus was speaking of is not the type kills or cuts flesh. Rather, it is the type that creates divisions. If you depart from Islam and follow Jesus, your Islamic family will render you an outcast and can even kill you cos Muhammad ordered such. Your following Jesus has created a division between you and your family. That is what the sword Jesus Christ said he brought will do.

Since you lack the spirit, you will never understand the verses and chapters. You, out of your desperation to justify the violence in Islam, was quick to quote them out of context and read the wrong meanings into them.

bloodofthelamb:
JESUS CHRIST is our atonement and sacrificial lamb for our sins... Anybody who does not believe this is damned and his sins is still hanging on him...

Without JESUS our sins remains and nothing sinful will dwell in the awesome presence of GOD... The importance of JESUS cannot be wished away.

alBHAGDADI:
Yes, he's correct about tithe, but that doesn't mean he has authority over everything religion. He knows nothing. Even the tithe thing he speaks about are gotten from the internet. If you check my profile, you will see where I stated my stance against tithe.

bloodofthelamb:
JESUS CHRIST is our atonement and sacrificial lamb for our sins... Anybody who does not believe this is damned and his sins is still hanging on him...

Without JESUS our sins remains and nothing sinful will dwell in the awesome presence of GOD... The importance of JESUS cannot be wished away.

internationalman:
What makes u think someone is your enemy is the same thing that makes that someone thinks another person is his/her enemy.

If God is to really answer this Adeboye's prayer no one will b left in his church.

frosbel2:
If you sin you will die

bloodofthelamb:
JESUS CHRIST is our atonement and sacrificial lamb for our sins... Anybody who does not believe this is damned and his sins is still hanging on him...

Without JESUS our sins remains and nothing sinful will dwell in the awesome presence of GOD... The importance of JESUS cannot be wished away.

Modupeolatemi01:
Crusade is just a way by which xtians propagate the gospel to people. They do it mostly in an open space so everyone can have access to it hear d gospel. I believe Muslims now do that too if I'm not wrong. It's just reaching out to unbelievers n even believers to spread d gospel and for people to know about d church too. To win souls for Christ. Simple sir. Did I answer ur question sir?

macaphan007:
Jesus Christ also preached about been born again,cause that's the only way to Heaven,and also John 3:16 comes to mind why isn't Freeze talking about these as well?

paxonel:
This is how christians understand those verses of the bible.
Jesus saying he came to cause division on earth does not mean that he came to cause fight. Rather, he meant he came to establish a new religion(christianity) among the Jews, where some Jews will abandon their Judaism and start practicing the christianity, hence the separation.
Separation of this nature do not call for fighting among the two religions. It's a matter of freedom of choice.
Some will choose christianity, others will continue with their Judaism, but the people will still live together in peace,That is what is expected.
But humans will always fight, that's why Jesus says i didn't bring peace to the world.
Not that his intention was to cause fight, his intention was to simply establish christianity, but the people, out of ignorance will start fighting.

As for your last quotation.
Luke 19:27 ESV
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
This statement is the same meaning as
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Condemnation does not mean physical slaughter of people.
Nobody is slaughtering anybody for not believing.
Condemnation simply means a situation where unbelievers are not given the opportunity to live again after they die in this world, and that is done by God., not humans or Christians, unlike Muslims will slaughter unbelievers thinking they are fighting for God.
So, when Jesus said bring those enemies here and slaughter them, it was a parable which meant that the enemies will not be given opportunity to live again after they die, which is condemnation.
That is not something that christians or Jews should fight over in this physical world, because this is a spiritual judgement carried out by God

asuustrike2009:
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
This is the kind of message freeze and agents will be preaching on the social media. Messages that itching to the ears,not messages that drew men closer to God. Messages that talks about repentance are not canvassed by them,no wonder the Bible say in 2 cor 11:3 say " But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ."
That is how freeze will deceive many thinking he is preaching the truth. No wonder 2 Cor 11:14 describe them all.

maasoap:
See hypocrite now. If he had read the Luke 19, the same way you read entire chapters and verses you quoted?
You mentioned of parables, right? How sure were you that all what you quoted from the Quran are not parables? You're hypocrite my friend.

ollah1:
My prophet? Lol

Funny how you become a Muslim when youbare factual same reason how freeze is now a Muslim . Lol

I believe you are talking about Prophet Muhammed. Yes, he was a warrior and he fought wars. That was part of what God wanted from him, I wonder why you don't use this same metric to judge Moses, David, et al.


Ohh, you hate Islam and everything that surrounds it

alBHAGDADI:
She is right with her statement. But is she willing to do that? Will her Quran allow her do that? Doing such is going against Allah's commandment that says you are to do the exact same evil that has been done to you.

In her post, she preached love to those who hurt you and caused you pain. Is that what Allah told Muslims to do?

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain

bloodofthelamb:
I will not die because CHRIST JESUS my Kinsman Redeemer has died for me... It is written He was wounded for my sins and transgression. He was bruised for my iniquity.

"Nobody can condemn me for JESUS has justified me."
Take a chill!

ollah1:
You must have read this from the inconsistent book called Bible

Elliot2:
IF D QURAN TEACH THE MOSLEM TO HATE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS BUT SAME MOSLEM GO TO ''LOVE'' THEM AS HE LOVES HIMSELF, WHILE THE CHRISTIAN WHOM THE BIBLE TEACHES TO LOVE HIS NEIGHBOUR GO ON TO HATE ON MOSLEMS AND OTHERS-WHO DO YOU THINK JEHOVAH WILL FIND WORTHY TO ENTER HEAVEN? AMONG ALL VIRTUES,LOVE IS THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL!

GoodGovernance:
You better shut up.

You want to rationalise the bible verses to suit yourself and at the same time want to demonize Quranic verses to promote your evil propaganda.


How can Luke 19:27 and John 3:18 be the same thing?


You must be a clown: For Quran,death means death,but for the Bible,death means mere condemnation?



The truth is both the Quran and bible have their own share of violent and very peaceful verses.All we should pray for is GOD's mercies and guidance,not to set one believer against the other.

We have both christain and muslim terrorists,do a proper research and stop vomiting rubbish.

The fact that muslim terrorists are more prevalent does not acquit Christianity of violence,it only proves that muslim extremists are more negatively passionate,about their religion.


Oya ,try to rationalise these also,as if muslims too cannot do the same:




2 Chronicles 15:12-13

And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.



Deuteronomy 17:12

The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest who stands to minister there before the Lord your God, or the judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.



They should be killed.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10


God sent lions to kill nonbelievers
2 Kings 17:25 “When they first lived there, they did not worship the Lord; so he sent lions among them and they killed some of the people.”

alBHAGDADI:
Daddy Freeze is one ignorant fellow who will lead many astray.

He claims that the requirement to have eternal life is by loving God and one's neighbors alone. He went further to state that as long as a Muslim is able to do those things, he will have eternal life without even believing in Jesus and accepting him as Lord and Savior.

What Daddy Freeze doesn't know is that being a MUSLIM is enough to prevent anyone from Loving God and also his neighbors. Being a Muslims means you obey the content of the Quran and what Muhammad says. Now, let's see what the Quran says about how a Muslim is to treat his neighbor.


Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the JEWS and the CHRISTIANS before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads FORCE him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer

Quran 48:29
Sahih International: Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Abu Dawud (41:4832) - The Messenger of Allah [said] "Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious."


Now, I ask, where is the love of one's neighbor in the above Islamic text? Where at all can we find a command from Allah to Love one's neighbor, be it Jew or Christian in all Islamic texts, the quran and hadiths?


The reason why Christians hammer on the fact that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your Master is not only because it is written in the Bible as the requirement to meeting God...


John 14:16
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


...but also because his ways and teachings are the only way you can be able to love your neighbor and love God.


[b]Mathew 5:43-45

43You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Mathew 5:39
38You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well;

Matthew 6:14-15

For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mark 11:25

And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”

Matthew 18:21-22

Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.[/b]


Now, tell me how you won't be able to make heaven when you believe the words of Jesus Christ. But you can't do such while remaining a Muslim or Bhuddist. Allah has stated it that very soon Muslims will cast terror into the hearts of Christians cos they believe that Jesus is God, meaning they have joined companions with God.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Their Prophet Muhammad also spoke of how trees will call on Muslims to kill Jews.

Sahih Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

If Daddy Freeze believes that Jesus was not a Christian but a JEW, then it means that the same spirit which inspired the people that killed Jesus who was a Jew is also inspiring Muslims to kill his Jewish brothers.

For all those who are dazzled by Freeze and his false teachings, I pity for you. He is very shallow and can't stand a debate. He is only succeeding in fooling people who are ignorant. No wonder all his followers use to be fools under chalatan pastors.

Topestbilly:
Have you been reading your Bible?

"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15)

alBHAGDADI:
The moment Muslims decide to love Christians and Jews, they stop being Muslims cos they will be going against the will of Allah and disobeying him. The word MUSLIM means submit to the will of Allah. Once you stop hating Christians and Jews, you stop being a Muslim, you stop submitting to Allah.

On the other hand, any Christian that doesn't love Muslims as humans and all other humans, such a person is not a Christian and no different from Muslims.

asuustrike2009:
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
This is the kind of message freeze and agents will be preaching on the social media. Messages that itching to the ears,not messages that drew men closer to God. Messages that talks about repentance are not canvassed by them,no wonder the Bible say in 2 cor 11:3 say " But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ."
That is how freeze will deceive many thinking he is preaching the truth. No wonder 2 Cor 11:14 describe them all.

frosbel2:
Ezekiel 18:20King James Version (KJV)
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him