AlanTuringAI:

That's because you choose to see what you want to see. You don't make categorical statements like your first sentence without checking facts. Are you implying that students from other technological schools are not good enough when compared with FUTO students? Students of FUTA have been building drones, as singular projects, not group projects like this one and such news abound in the education section of this forum. At least there was one that recently constructed a drone all from scratch using locally made materials. See link:
https://www.nairaland.com/3413006/futa-student-builds-drone-locally

Those are tribal bigots and you shouldn't have bothered quoting him really. He wouldn't ever find a common ground with you no matter how wrong he can be. These are systems engineering undergraduate students toying with a drone in Unilag. Can't even say what year they made this video buh I doubt if it's this decade self.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fOxQ2MONs

This is a shame on the lecturers. So they can't tell the difference between assembling and designing.

"Designed"? Or COPPIED?
Drones are every where now for as low as 10k. Everyevent planner includes it for aerial video recording.
Now 4 clowns are claiming they designed a surveillance drone. Idiots.

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
it's not a big deal, because we don't have cost advantage. I remember trying to build a High voltage DC power supply in school, and the whole thing was costing me upwards of $100.. I went to Alibaba(Chinese retailer), and saw an even better and safety standards approved unit for $4.. yes $4... Now why wouldn't anybody in his right sense go for a factory assembled god damn cheap alternative. There's really nothing that we'll do, that is new under the sun, or that will give us a competitive edge over well established giants ... .. this is casino capitalism and honestly no one gives even the slightest f*cks ...go to http://hackaday.io, and see mad ass projects by Nigerians and people all over the world, and even they don't see it to make noise

we are not doing it to pass anybody, it is not a competition. We are doing it to help ourselves.

If more of this was encouraged, eventually funding will come. This defeatist behaviour is why we never go far in life.

No funds are coming, so, leave it. We should encourage it, make noise so that the right people will hear.

Everybody will eventually leave Nigeria to countries where the right noise was made and where will that get us? Nowhere.

Actually it's a good development but no link on d drone camera to a system also d. battery is too heavy

safarigirl:
FUTO is apparently the only University of Technology that its students can actually construct these items

I hardly see other Universities of Technology students who have designed drones, tricycles or anything technological

If you look, you'll know that these guys haven't done anything.

DrayZee:

If you look, you'll know that these guys haven't done anything.

I've seen better from the same school.

Anyway, I am not into sciences, just recognising effort.

safarigirl:
I've seen better from the same school.

Anyway, I am not into sciences, just recognising effort.

Alright good. It's good to recognize effort.
Just know that these guys simply assembled this, they didn't make it from scratch.

Good development, pls send it 2 sambisa forest

safarigirl:
we are not doing it to pass anybody, it is not a competition. We are doing it to help ourselves.

If more of this was encouraged, eventually funding will come. This defeatist behaviour is why we never go far in life.

No funds are coming, so, leave it. We should encourage it, make noise so that the right people will hear.

Everybody will eventually leave Nigeria to countries where the right noise was made and where will that get us? Nowhere.

You prefer to see it from an empathic point of view, and that is just fine, because we all need that positivism. But in this era of casino capitalism and big business, the world is really one cruel place, and that is why African countries would probably never have their own industrial revolution with Globalism and free trade being championed. Your argument reminds me of our rice policies in Nigeria, we don't have the comparative advantage to plant rice to sufficient international standards, yet we ban rice importation, and in the end, what we have is endless smuggling, re-bagging, and state governors doing photo ops with foreign rice, claiming it is homegrown. The simple fact that a man in Rwanda can bring German machines to his village with the tap of his phone buttons, means that if you can't keep quiet and out-innovate the Germans, then all your noise will end up in debilitating hunger

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
You prefer to see it from an empathic point of view, and that is just fine, because we all need that positivism. But in this era of casino capitalism and big business, the world is really one cruel place, and that is why African countries would probably never have their own industrial revolution with Globalism and free trade being championed. Your argument reminds me of our rice policies in Nigeria, we don't have the comparative advantage to plant rice to sufficient international standards, yet we ban rice importation, and in the end, what we have is endless smuggling, re-bagging, and state governors doing photo ops with foreign rice, claiming it is homegrown. The simple fact that a man in Rwanda can bring German machines to his village with the tap of his phone buttons, means that if you can't keep quiet and out-innovate the Germans, then all your noise will end up in debilitating hunger

I don't even support the banning of rice.

I guess your own idea is that these Nigerians take their skills to countries that are already doing it? No need to waste time doing anything in Nigeria.

If the Chinese people had followed your argument, they would not be where they are today. They are not even being innovative by doing something new, but see where they are....but the black man always feels he has lost the race before he even puts on his shoes.

plessis:
Afonja right now.

Later you will open your mouth and say your problem is Bubu.

safarigirl:
I don't even support the banning of rice.

I guess your own idea is that these Nigerians take their skills to countries that are already doing it? No need to waste time doing anything in Nigeria.

If the Chinese people had followed your argument, they would not be where they are today. They are not even being innovative by doing something new, but see where they are....but the black man always feels he has lost the race before he even puts on his shoes.

The Chinese did not innovate the product, they innovated the economics; Hinging on Large scale production techniques to beat down price to the barest minimum possible. The reason I use comparative advantage more instead of Innovation. I prefer to always be realistic, as see things as they are. We have exactly no comparative advantage yet in this country, and probably won't in a long time. I think the problem here is that you're not a science person, hence the positivism. Now , what does students have done is
1) Get the Hardware parts from China or USA
2)Piece the Hardware together functionally
3)Get open source flight control and aerodynamic firmware online.
4) Copy and paste this code on whatever flight controller, that they have bought and installed on their assembled hardware.
5) Get open source monitoring and tracking system to use for realtime testing and usage.
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What they have simple done is CTRL C + CTRL V with exactly zero input; they did not see it fit to add customized periphery e.g Image processing DSP for maybe agricultural systems, Security etc. There's no comparative advantage whatsoever in what they have done. and honestly the only way people improve is when they DO NOT celebrate mediocrity . Fine, they probably deserve an A in their project score, but to come and expect adulation and highest of praises, na lie
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cc Exciton omohayek , come and see your people

nice 1

technaija:
In fulfillment of their engineering course in Federal University of Technology Owerri (FUTO). These four students ( Ekeh Isidore, Kizito Onyema, Aloysius Nwokedike, John Kenedy Kalu) constructed a quadcopter surveillance drone for the university campus as a school project.

With a wood constructed Controller and First Person View (FPV) system, the drone pilot sees the video footage of the campus in real time.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otwDZbDPN8

somebody call the chief of air staff!

safarigirl:
FUTO is apparently the only University of Technology that its students can actually construct these items

I hardly see other Universities of Technology students who have designed drones, tricycles or anything technological

Check out LASPOTECH

caesaraba:
Lol. Except they made the drone from scratch, it's more like getting a quad-copter from Jumia, re-assembling it and then taking out all the board, wiring and screen from the plastic hand controller and placing it carefully into a wooden box.

Exactly. They didn't build that from scratch. Check out the blades.

Well, if I was the supervisor, they'd just get an "E"

wow, congrats to them, A direct.

U mean assembled a already existing gadget?

4 dia mind dem be guru, wen my 6yrs old kid go watch am 4 youtube make am beta pass dis...

safarigirl:
FUTO is apparently the only University of Technology that its students can actually construct these items

I hardly see other Universities of Technology students who have designed drones, tricycles or anything technological

well you wrong ma'am. FUTA has being doing this and way more since like forever. I even designed and manufactured an octocopter from scratch(only me) as my final year project in 2016. How can four students partner to build an ordinary quadcopter


here's the link to my drone done in 2016

https://www.nairaland.com/3413006/futa-student-builds-drone-locally

Why are humans foo.lish like this in this country
This is the f450 quad kit with no changes.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008A4RGV4
https://www.amazon.com/DJI-Flame-Wheel-F450-ARF/dp/B00G4A2RBU
http://www.helipal.com/dji-f450-w-naza-v2-and-h3-2d-gimbal-rtf.html

Una matter don tire me....

safarigirl:
I've seen better from the same school.

Anyway, I am not into sciences, just recognising effort.

this was what u ought to have said from the onset instead of ignorantly arguing on what u have little idea on
it is not a crime to wrongly assume or hastily make wrong conclusion but a matured person and someone willing to learn will accept his/ her mistake and learn
you were ignorantly trying to defend yourself and that was the annoying part
no weakness in accepting temporary defeat

your first post was an hastily assumption
cos we want to appreciate efforts should not mean we should celebrate mediocrity we wont grow that way
those guys have done nothing ( and pls it has nothing to do with school or ethnicity). someone even without engineering basics will do wot they did. There re hundreds of videos on assembling those parts they bought at an onlinestore. Everybody even in Nigeria is building this now. I Am sure there are other better project from the same class and set that we ought to celebrate and appreciate

caesaraba:
Lol. Except they made the drone from scratch, it's more like getting a quad-copter from Jumia, re-assembling it and then taking out all the board, wiring and screen from the plastic hand controller and placing it carefully into a wooden box.

I don't know why some people can't keep quiet for what they don't know. Those guys designed, carried out all the calculations involve in making the drone. They sent the designs to manufacturing companies for fabrication. However, you don't expect them to start winding rotor coils themselves nor manufacture their own battery.

We here in UNIUYO (department of Electrical and Electronics Engineering) have done the same thing last year, I still have the videos here in my mobile. So please you guys should stop that shit of "manufacturing from scratch"... Even companies do buy parts.

Well done guys, I'm always impressed when I see Engineering students who 'practice' Engineering and not 'cramming' Engineering.

Poor job!

Didn't they test before posting the video?

Where is the surveillance drone!

All I see is a kite struggling to fly. You even heard one saying the battery was heavy on it, is he just finding out?

Surveillance drone my feet!

They should carry the course over.

Not fit to graduate with this nonsense!

It may hurt some people but that is the truth!

One persons final year project in unilag

I think we use the word design wrongly. When you use the word design, it means that even the schematic diagram was drawn without copying it from somewhere (even if you copied it from somewhere you must have added something new).

I think lecturers should advise student to use the word construct instead of design.

Also, were the student able to get the video of the Arial view covered by the drone because that is what drone is meant to do and not just flying.

The guy that is condeming other Universities technology, if you see some technological project from some Polytechnics and Universities of technology you beg to withdraw your comment.

Only few project by Engineering students are designed and this is mainly abroad because it ll be a research work comprises of lot of department not in Nigeria where research work is in ICU unit and about to visit the cementary

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
The Chinese did not innovate the product, they innovated the economics; Hinging on Large scale production techniques to beat down price to the barest minimum possible. The reason I use comparative advantage more instead of Innovation. I prefer to always be realistic, as see things as they are. We have exactly no comparative advantage yet in this country, and probably won't in a long time. I think the problem here is that you're not a science person, hence the positivism. Now , what does students have done is
1) Get the Hardware parts from China or USA
2)Piece the Hardware together functionally
3)Get open source flight control and aerodynamic firmware online.
4) Copy and paste this code on whatever flight controller, that they have bought and installed on their assembled hardware.
5) Get open source monitoring and tracking system to use for realtime testing and usage.
.
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What they have simple done is CTRL C + CTRL V with exactly zero input; they did not see it fit to add customized periphery e.g Image processing DSP for maybe agricultural systems, Security etc. There's no comparative advantage whatsoever in what they have done. and honestly the only way people improve is when they DO NOT celebrate mediocrity . Fine, they probably deserve an A in their project score, but to come and expect adulation and highest of praises, na lie
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cc Exciton omohayek , come and see your people

Hehe. Most people don't know how far behind and hopeless our situation is. Hence the optimism.

I don't know much about economics to say anything useful. I know you're right about how globalization impedes industrial growth in underdeveloped countries and that globalization was in its infancy when Asian countries were growing. HOWEVER, comparative advantage or not, we need to start somewhere because I don't think we can ever become a developed nation without going through an enlightenment and industrialization age.

Only two ways of skipping an industrialization age that comes to mind (in my limited imagination) is: some mind blowing tech to create finished goods out of thin air which is unlikely, and the use of highly developed AI to do our manufacturing for us. The AI might as well rule/discard us as we would be utterly useless!

Anyways, I don't think any of these would happen. I also don't think we'll ever get to an enlightenment & fully industrialized age within the life time of Nigeria as a sovereign nation. I think we are already on an inevitable path to, yet again, become a colony and, this time around, be fully absorbed into a more developed nation or federation. I'm not an optimist!

even if its assemblying they did,its a very worthwhile effort,they must have learnt something from their effort which would be very valuable in the coming years

Exciton:


Hehe. Most people don't know how far behind and hopeless our situation is. Hence the optimism.

I don't know much about economics to say anything useful. I know you're right about how globalization impedes industrial growth in underdeveloped countries and that globalization was in its infancy when Asian countries were growing. HOWEVER, comparative advantage or not, we need to start somewhere because I don't think we can ever become a developed nation without going through an enlightenment and industrialization age.

Only two ways of skipping an industrialization age that comes to mind (in my limited imagination) is: some mind blowing tech to create finished goods out of thin air which is unlikely, and the use of highly developed AI to do our manufacturing for us. The AI might as well rule/discard us as we would be utterly useless!

Anyways, I don't think any of these would happen. I also don't think we'll ever get to an enlightenment & fully industrialized age within the life time of Nigeria as a sovereign nation. I think we are already on an inevitable path to, yet again, become a colony and, this time around, be fully absorbed into a more developed nation or federation. I'm not an optimist!

most definitely true . when our folks are all bout "who book EPP".. 'life is all about the money ooh" etc etc, its hard to get optimistic...
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on another note, Transistors are getting smaller (now in the 30nm range), how much longer before we hit quantum city. are there any possibilities currently being researched by "your people"

brilliant! boys but as usual you won't get any support here

safarigirl:
they made it from scratch, why mock them?

This behaviour of mocking people trying to do something new in this country is repulsive. If you have no words of advice, stop mocking someone's talent.

Such mockery is what stops some great minds from aspiring to do more and it is what is keeping us here. Never downplay anyone's efforts or laugh at them

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Very well said