₦airaland Forum

3nim:
I don't call myself atheist or christian. That's why I wouldn't fight like I'm this child's mother.. but you aren't that either. I personally know someone who claimed to have died and gone to heaven. I know people who know her and attend her fellowship sessions...but I wasn't there when she died and neither were these people.

I won't ever go fight that this woman did not go to heaven, but I believe people lie, get things wrong, or could be mistaken.

so you're insinuating they got the diagnosis of the SS wrong for 10 years. All the crisis she had, a mistake too?

joshnes:
so you're insinuating they got the diagnosis of the SS wrong for 10 years. All the crisis she had, a mistake too?

No. I'm only insinuating that I don't know your uncle's friend's daughter and I didn't know her during her ss days. I'm glad she's healed. It would be really miraculous since all the blood in her body can't just disappear and be replaced by blood with normal RBC's.

So did you know this child or do you just assume she had crisis?

3nim:
Of course you'd observe pride in them, they don't agree with you so they must be proud

You mean i observe pride in them because they don't agree with me? lol. No. When a mere human gives YHWH, the Supreme Authority, The Only Potentate ultimatums before he or she wld be convinced what do you call that? Well, if that's not pride to you, then you must have another definition of Pride.

Satan is the only being who challenges God with that line, 'If you are God, then do this'. Hello!!!!, God does not take orders from his creatures.

3nim:
You just contradicted some teachings in some churches. People are advised by pastors to ask God for things. They won't leave him alone until he blesses them.

I was hoping you'd say i just contradicted what the Bible teaches. No Pastor is a standard in Christianity. Anyone can interprete the Scripture as it suits him.

3nim:
Sometimes he would have already blessed some people but then the earth swallowed the blessing. Now these people must battle he earth to vomit their blessing.
Maybe I didn't understand what you said.

I have never seen from the Bible saying tje earth swallows blessings and men needs to battle the earth to vomit the blessings. Pls help me here.

3nim:
A really nice God fearing-woman I knew recently passed. It pained me so much. I know for a fact that she spends ours in prayer. Pays tithe, goes on crusades. She must have asked for a long life. She must have asked to reap the fruit of her labour. It's really so painful to say that I didn't see her receive these things. Is the long life still on the way?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. So, you became angry that she died abi?
Lets consider some questions here.

1. The really Nice God fearing woman of yours was given a temporary gift (Life), She was aware it will certainly be taken back from her without her concent as it was given right? So, now it was taken by Him who gave it or NOT, and you got angry? Why is that? Is the Life hera or yours? No. Was she or you told it will be taken unexpectedly? Yes. Why are you angry?

And again, What is your assurance that she indeed had her name written in the book of Life making her untouchable by satan? If she wasn't covered and got killed by another force, will you balme God just because she went to Church?

And, what if her time on earth was up.

Do you think spending ours in prayers, paying tithes, attending Crusades can be used as bribe to God? If one does these things without genuine repentance, it'll just amount to bodily exercise which profits little.

Long life according to whose standards? God or Man? He gave the life, only He determines how long is long life.

What is friut of one's labour? From the Bible i read from, the fruits of Labour is often reaped by the offsprings not thw person who sows them.

The fruits of Abraham's labour are still being reaped by the living Israelites today and even me.

Listen, Children of God don't die, we only lay down one body and takes up another. To be away from this world, is to be present with the Lord. Only a man who is not sure of where his eternity will be spent have issues with death. Any Christian who has issues with death, is not a Christian, because the heart felt desire of every Christian is to be with the Lord.

If you are pained that a nice Christian woman died, worry no more, she has gone home.

godisgood200:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. So, you became angry that she died abi?
Lets consider some questions here.

That laugh of yours just became the most annoying thing that has happened this new year for me. I haven't even read your text. Just glossed over your comment and saw it. Then I read what made you laugh. Did it really sound so funny to you?

godisgood200:
You mean i observe pride in them because they don't agree with me? lol. No. When a mere human gives YHWH, the Supreme Authority, The Only Potentate ultimatums before he or she wld be convinced what do you call that? Well, if that's not pride to you, then you must have another definition of Pride.

Satan is the only being who challenges God with that line, 'If you are God, then do this'. Hello!!!!, God does not take orders from his creatures.


I was hoping you'd say i just contradicted what the Bible teaches. No Pastor is a standard in Christianity. Anyone can interprete the Scripture as it suits him.

I have never seen from the Bible saying tje earth swallows blessings and men needs to battle the earth to vomit the blessings. Pls help me here.


Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. So, you became angry that she died abi?
Lets consider some questions here.

1. The really Nice God fearing woman of yours was given a temporary gift (Life), She was aware it will certainly be taken back from her without her concent as it was given right? So, now it was taken by Him who gave it or NOT, and you got angry? Why is that? Is the Life hera or yours? No. Was she or you told it will be taken unexpectedly? Yes. Why are you angry?

And again, What is your assurance that she indeed had her name written in the book of Life making her untouchable by satan? If she wasn't covered and got killed by another force, will you balme God just because she went to Church?

And, what if her time on earth was up.

Do you think spending ours in prayers, paying tithes, attending Crusades can be used as bribe to God? If one does these things without genuine repentance, it'll just amount to bodily exercise which profits little.

Long life according to whose standards? God or Man? He gave the life, only He determines how long is long life.

What is friut of one's labour? From the Bible i read from, the fruits of Labour is often reaped by the offsprings not thw person who sows them.

The fruits of Abraham's labour are still being reaped by the living Israelites today and even me.

Listen, Children of God don't die, we only lay down one body and takes up another. To be away from this world, is to be present with the Lord. Only a man who is not sure of where his eternity will be spent have issues with death. Any Christian who has issues with death, is not a Christian, because the heart felt desire of every Christian is to be with the Lord.

If you are pained that a nice Christian woman died, worry no more, she has gone home.

Thank you for the words.

3nim, God knows the beginning from the end of YOUR CHOICE. I will quote Deuteronomy 30:15-19 "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; in that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgemdnts, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee... but if thou turn away... I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land... I call heaven and earth to record this day... that I have set before you life and death...therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." Clearly this passage shows that God knows the beginning and the end, but ultimately your choice determines your end, if you choose life what follows it follows you, if you choose death, you bear the consequence, the same principle applies to all of us and applied to Adam & Eve.

3nim:
No. I'm only insinuating that I don't know your uncle's friend's daughter and I didn't know her during her ss days. I'm glad she's healed. It would be really miraculous since all the blood in her body can't just disappear and be replaced by blood with normal RBC's.

So did you know this child or do you just assume she had crisis?

errm, if I tell you I have malaria do you not know what the symptoms will be? Can someone be ss without crises? I never saw her in crisis, but she was ss.

joshnes:
errm, if I tell you I have malaria do you not know what the symptoms will be? Can someone be ss without crises? I never saw her in crisis, but she was ss.

I know the symptoms of malaria. But My question was if you knew someone who was sick and was healed. I would have liked it if you knew this Person in sickness and not just after the healing. That's where I can always think otherwise.

I have also heard such stories. I'd never speak up against them because I can never be so sure. But I can't speak up for them either. I wasn't there.

Your uncle's friend's daughter. Do you know this uncle's friend? Not the daughter...the friend of your uncle.

joshnes:
3nim, God knows the beginning from the end of YOUR CHOICE. I will quote Deuteronomy 30:15-19 "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; in that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgemdnts, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee... but if thou turn away... I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land... I call heaven and earth to record this day... that I have set before you life and death...therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." Clearly this passage shows that God knows the beginning and the end, but ultimately your choice determines your end, if you choose life what follows it follows you, if you choose death, you bear the consequence, the same principle applies to all of us and applied to Adam & Eve.

We're actually on the same page... I think.
He knows the beginning and the end, yes.
I still say that God knows the end and those who will choose death. He knows everyone's choice. If you disagree then God would only be technically ominiscient...or not ominiscient at all.

Our choices are ultimately up to us but do you agree that God already knows everyone's end choice?

3nim, concerning your balloon illustration please read this Ecclesiastes 7:29 (MSG) "God made men and women true and upright, we're the one who have made a mess of things." There are no red and blue balloons only blue.

3nim:
We're actually on the same page... I think.
He knows the beginning and the end, yes.
I still say that God knows the end and those who will choose death. He knows everyone's choice. If you disagree then God would only be technically ominiscient...or not ominiscient at all.

Our choices are ultimately up to us but do you agree that God already knows everyone's end choice?

I totally disagree with that. God does not know your end choice. He knows the end of your choice. If He knows your end choice, then there is NO CHOICE. That means you are created to without a choice, I quoted Eccl 7:29 for you, and that shows God has given everybody freewill to choose. That's why He told the Israelites if you do this, you will see this, if you don't do it, you will see that. God creates you, you make your choice. He will alway suggest you choose His way.

joshnes:
3nim, concerning your balloon illustration please read this Ecclesiastes 7:29 (MSG) "God made men and women true and upright, we're the one who have made a mess of things." There are no red and blue balloons only blue.

Joshnes, you haven't been understanding. If we were all upright, we wouldn't make a mess of things. If the balloons were made blue, none would pop. If there were only people like Job on earth (with free will), they would never let God down.

I made the balloon analogy because I'm of the opinion that God already knows everyone's choice. So he should have chosen to leave the people who would end up in hell in inexistence by not creating Them. Then he should only create the people, who he knows will end up in heaven.
God can doing this because he can do all things and he is also good and benevolent... loving. he can think of it because I can.

Is he okay with people burning in hell forever? While he gets worshipped in heaven...

joshnes:
I totally disagree with that. God does not know your end choice.

I beg to differ.

Let's go biblical.

What can you say about Job's story in the Bible?
God knew job would never disappoint him.
Any counter to this?

He knows the end of your choice.

This is why the Bible is inconsistent. If I'm to answer you truthfully, I would say YES and NO to this MESSAGE I quoted.

My reason for the YES response is that, it's conforms to the normal rules and laws of our society.
Lemme cité an example, we all know the end result for violating a rule is punishment.

And NO in the sense that there are many reasons to invalidate God's omniscience nature

So there's nothing new

If He knows your end choice, then there is NO CHOICE. That means you are created to without a choice, I quoted Eccl 7:29 for you, and that shows God has given everybody freewill to choose. That's why He told the Israelites if you do this, you will see this, if you don't do it, you will see that. God creates you, you make your choice. He will alway suggest you choose His way.

Freewill

Hmmm

joshnes:
I totally disagree with that. God does not know your end choice. He knows the end of your choice. If He knows your end choice, then there is NO CHOICE. That means you are created to without a choice, I quoted Eccl 7:29 for you, and that shows God has given everybody freewill to choose. That's why He told the Israelites if you do this, you will see this, if you don't do it, you will see that. God creates you, you make your choice. He will alway suggest you choose His way.

In other words, God does NOT know everything?

3nim:
Thank you for the words.

Thanks so much for this time together.

3nim:
In other words, God does NOT know everything?

Watch out for flimsy word gymnastics

3nim:
That laugh of yours just became the most annoying thing that has happened this new year for me. I haven't even read your text. Just glossed over your comment and saw it. Then I read what made you laugh. Did it really sound so funny to you?

Lolzzz, it sounds funny why you'd be angry that a Child of God who had been promised eternal life after she dies. We the Christians celebrate when a brethren dies, because we are not without hope.

A time will come that we all shall attend a marriage feast with our groom, the Lord Jesus, and that will happen when we die, so why be angry that someones daughter went home to her fathers house?

3nim:
Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.

And we are not religionists, We are Christians and we do not have to proof anything to anyone, for the demand to proof that there's God, is Satan's subtile way of instilling pride into us. I don't any Jack any explanation.

3nim:
Joshnes, you haven't been understanding. If we were all upright, we wouldn't make a mess of things. If the balloons were made blue, none would pop. If there were only people like Job on earth (with free will), they would never let God down.

I made the balloon analogy because I'm of the opinion that God already knows everyone's choice. So he should have chosen to leave the people who would end up in hell in inexistence by not creating Them. Then he should only create the people, who he knows will end up in heaven.
God can doing this because he can do all things and he is also good and benevolent... loving. he can think of it because I can.

Is he okay with people burning in hell forever? While he gets worshipped in heaven...

He is not okay with it at all. "The Lord is.... longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

joshnes:
He is not okay with it at all. "The Lord is.... longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

He is very able to change things then. I already thought of a way. I'm sure he can think of 10.
Or does this have something to do with justice being served?
Burning in hell forever is a good punishment?

If he used my way...and only let the not-condemned live,then there'd be no more people going to hell. But he could have better ideas.

3nim:
He is very able to change things then. I already thought of a way. I'm sure he can think of 10.
Or does this have something to do with justice being served?
Burning in hell forever is a good punishment?

If he used my way...and only let the not-condemned live,then there'd be no more people going to hell. But he could have better ideas.

there is nothing like the not condemned "for God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Everybody has an equal chance of making heaven. Whoever believes in Jesus is saved. Nobody is born a Christian, you must choose to believe. "The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men......" Titus 2:11. Nobody has a better shot at salvation, and unfortunately, you actually are a proof of that.

3nim:
In other words, God does NOT know everything?

He does but your choice is left to you to make.

3nim:
First set of questions. These were not intended to spite anyone or God. I really wondered about these.

Please quote any question you feel you have the best answer to and respond to it.

A test layout seemed more organised to me. You can explain individual answers.

1a) Who are the actual "children" of God? (...multiple choice)
(a) the devoted followers only
(b) the partial followers and the devoted ones
(c) the People in India who grew up believeing in Krishna, a god with blue skin, gods with multiple arms (apparently they should go to hell for this)
(d) Mentally deranged ("mad" ) people
(e) all of the above, infact every human being

The people we can actually call children of God are the first beings he gave bodies to. Here are the first sons of God: Knoliud, Allah, Yahweh, Enlil, Atum, Moloch, Mazda, Olorun, etc. All the gods worshipped from generation to generation are the children of God.

:
1b) A loving father lets his children burn in an ever-growing fire for all eternity for doing bad things. Do you think that's a fair punishment?

If there is such a father, his brain needs formatting. BTW, I'm aware that such nonsense is what Yahweh and Allah have in mind for some of their followers. That's a proof that they are not good fathers, let alone calling them loving fathers. They are dunces.

:
1c) How does spiritual paternity change? First you are a child of God, and then you when you decide to become "evil", you also become the child of the devil. This means that being a child of God is only figurative spiritually. I used to think that it was spiritually true.

God is not the opposite of devil. Devil is not a specific personality, therefore nobody or nothing can be called devil intrinsically. So if nothing can't be called devil intrinsically, then nobody is qualified to be the child of the devil.

:
2) How did Jesus really enter the story...was he created by God? Or was he also God (catholic trinity ideology) and he took part in creation? I mean before he was born of the virgin Mary...

Jesus as a personality does not exist, but as a fictitious character, being a mixture of the attitudes of many previous real characters, then it exists. Faulkin aka Zeusus Krista was the person who existed in the homo erectus era, being the son of Murmoh and Earthus(Mother Earth) but was adopted by Yahweh. Faulkin lived and then died since millions of years back in the previous world, but just about 2000years ago, some homo sapiens got inspiration and wrote back Faulkin into our world. So, the only place Jesus can be seen is in the bible.

:
3) About that tree in the Middle of the garden, Eden....the question is just WHY? God could have planted a mango tree, why did he plant the one that was not to be touched? And the one that could damn humanity?

It is not God Almighty who planted any tree, Yahweh did so.

:
4) Does God really like stories? [/b]because honestly, Bible stories have made some really good movies.
He knew it was ALLL going to happen. So what was his plan? did he think he'd be wrong at some point and that humans wouldn't sin anymore? HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WOULD HAVE TO DIE AND HE KNEW IT. He let it happen. Most of his creation/children would end up in hell and he knew it. Adam and What's up with this?

All these are mere stories cooked up by Yahweh and his people. There was no one dying for anybody's offences and mistakes. We are all bound to make mistakes and correct our mistakes by ourselves. It is a lazy assumption to think that a caveboy somewhere have died for your mistakes. BTW, what sense is there that someone have to die for your petty mistakes?

:
5) Is God all-knowing? [b]Did he or did he not know...
(a) ...that that serpent was evil? y/n
(b) ...that Adam and Eve would eat the apple
(c) ...That his only begotten son would have to suffer and die?
(d) ...That sin would , in all honesty, be fun to commit sometimes so his creation would have to give up doing things they like
He should have known all these before he created anything. He could have spared Jesus christ all of that pain and suffering, really.

This person you are describing here is not God Almighty. This is one of the creatures of God called Yahweh. He doesn't know or see all things. He doesn't even see close to 1/infinity of all things.

:
5) God is all powerful?
(a) Why didn't he crush Lucifer them one time? Instead of letting him tempt his children....
(b) In fact, he could have deleted sin from existence or made humans have no desire to sin. Why didn't he?

God doesn't see anything as sin, it is human concept to call mistakes and wrongdoings sins. As a matter of fact, Lucifer aka Allah and God Almighty are not pair opposites such that God would destroy him. It is not even Allah(Lucifer) that made anybody make mistakes. To make mistakes is part of humanity, so Lucifer(Allah) had no fault in people's mistakes. For example, if I said something bad about my colleagues and he got sacked, I am the person who made the mistake and it is not the fault of Lucifer(Allah). Next time I would simply watch my tongue that's all. So do not let us blame our personal mistakes on either Satan(Yahweh) or Lucifer (Allah) because they don't even know almost all of us personally let alone making us to make mistakes.

:
6a) Innocent people, children, CHRISTIANS die horribly daily. Is this his will or is he waiting for the right number of people to die before he saves his children ?

God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh does not save anyone from anything. He doesn't interfere in the personal affairs of humans. If anybody is about to die, he or she dies. Whatever diseases killed a human being, those germs causing the diseases are only fighting for their own survival as we are also fighting for our own survival. So God will not kill a mosquito for humans, else it becomes partiallity in his part because mosquitoes too have souls. Animals and plants have their souls and we eat them for food, so should they also pray that God should kill humans for them? However, death doesn't mean the end, it means changing position. So whoever dies get to see himself or herself existing again somewhere else.

:
7)[b] Does he have multiple personalities? God of love-God of war, God of vengeance-God of mercy. Vengeance and mercy stand on 2 opposite sides of the spectrum.

All these characteristics are not the attributes of God Almighty, rather, they are the attributes of Yahweh, one of his creatures. So it doesn't count for God's.

:
(8 ) Is the Bible 100% accurate? Could it really be God's or Jesus's words? Did the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John literally carry their "pen and paper" everywhere ? ...I mean you have quoted statement after quoted statement in the Bible.

According to my perception, the bible is 99% inaccurate and the word 'accuracy should not be brought to use at all when the Bible is concerned.

:
10)(a) Explain God's take on rape and why I should understand it.
(b) Explain his take on me being able to sacrifice my own child willingly and blindly in obedience to him ( here I get the answer that God wouldn't give me a temptation that is too big for me. well...)

From what I know about God, there are just three golden rules which if followed, it would make the best out of everyone:

1. Use your brain positively
2. Worship no god/God
3. Do good to humanity

:
11) Do you believe that a LOOOOOOT of Christians are just afraid of hell?

Yes it is obvious.

:
13) Why does it seem like God isn't keen on saving his children from the flames of hell ? If he were we would all be saved by now, tbh. Instead, he lets people do the work, he definitely knows they won't all succeed. Even when people seek him, they don't find him, contrary to his word in Matthew 7:7 (I held on to this so much)...there have been people who sought his presence or help in their lives. MOST did not get answers....The explanation I get to this is that the people don't seek long enough... okayyyy

The flames and other evil realms were created by the minds of bad gods. Some of them such as El, Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Eshu, Ereshkigal, Enlil and many others used their minds to create a very unpleasant psychological conditions for those whose minds are connected with them. However, the light of God Almighty went to those evil minds and destroyer every evil imaginations these bad gods have made for humans such that now there is no more unpleasant psychological state. We are actually souls and souls are well connected with the brain. So if we think as Yahweh and some bad gods want us to think, we might end up experiencing such evil psychological state of hell fire, etc. But eventually, the light of God Almighty have taken all such conditions out of existence.

joshnes:
He does but your choice is left to you to make.

I really believe you already understand my point.

God already knows who's going to hell cuz he already knows everyone's choice. He's ominiscient and is just waiting for the people he knows will go to hell to end up there.

joshnes:
there is nothing like the not condemned "for God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Everybody has an equal chance of making heaven. Whoever believes in Jesus is saved. Nobody is born a Christian, you must choose to believe. "The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men......" Titus 2:11. Nobody has a better shot at salvation, and unfortunately, you actually are a proof of that.

How am I proof of that?

Condemned people AKA the damned reside in hell....they put themselves there with their sins, according to popular Christian belief. The ominiscient God already knew this would happen before he created these people. He already knew that they'd be condemned.

If they end up in heaven though, that makes God wrong. You understand this.

OtemAtum

Thank you for the answers
You are deist?
You believe in the existence of a God above Yahweh and the others?

3nim:
OtemAtum

Thank you for the answers
You are deist?
You believe in the existence of a God above Yahweh and the others?

I don't have any religous tag. I am Otem, a thinker, a brain user.

godisgood200:
Lolzzz, it sounds funny why you'd be angry that a Child of God who had been promised eternal life after she dies. We the Christians celebrate when a brethren dies, because we are not without hope.

A time will come that we all shall attend a marriage feast with our groom, the Lord Jesus, and that will happen when we die, so why be angry that someones daughter went home to her fathers house?

godisgood200, normally I don't care enough to make comments like this, not even in real life. But because you are so Christian, or Christlike, i mean in comparison to me or any Atheists on Nairaland, I'd love to get the satisfaction of letting you know that a humble man like Jesus might have known when to make a simple apology.
Don't get me wrong, I'd never expect an apology from anyone, especially when this person lacks the holy spirit the way I do. I'm really not that sort of person. But I AM the sort, who'd apologise if she struck the wrong chord and had someone clearly point that out, like I did to you. Even as proud as you say I am.
I just thought bringing up this fact would be a little satisfying for me. You know... letting you know that you can use your words to fight for God but the only thing that actually sets you aside from the atheists is the difference in opinion and beliefs. I wouldn't have expected anything short of an explanation as to why you found something funny and decided to post your laughter.

It doesn't matter who the woman was to me, if you find something funny, you laugh about it.
I think I'm satisfied now

OtemAtum:
I don't have any religous tag. I am Otem, a thinker, a brain user.

But we are all brain users. We use our brains the way we feel is logical, sometimes.

There is a religious tag for not having a "religious tag".
There's a word for not being anything : nothing. But you are not nothing. What is your point of view of religion like??

3nim:
But we are all brain users. We use our brains the way we feel is logical, sometimes.

There is a religious tag for not having a "religious tag".
There's a word for not being anything : nothing. But you are not nothing. What is your point of view of religion like??

You mean what do I see religion as? Okay, I see it as a 'remote control'.

3nim:
How am I proof of that?

Condemned people AKA the damned reside in hell....they put themselves there with their sins, according to popular Christian belief. The ominiscient God already knew this would happen before he created these people. He already knew that they'd be condemned.

If they end up in heaven though, that makes God wrong. You understand this.

Of course people will be condemned as a result of their choice, God did not create anybody to go to hell, God wants EVERYBODY to be with Him in heaven. That is His will, hell is not God's will for anybody but people will still choose that.

OtemAtum:
You mean what do I see religion as? Okay, I see it as a 'remote control'.

Oh okay. Then you're prolly atheist na.
But you said something about a God that is greater than Yahweh...God Almighty? What god were you talking about?