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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by somegirl1: 2:12pm On Jan 22, 2018
konoplyanka:
but today they are ibos. And ibos never had king's but almost every street in iboland now have an eze.

Never had kings? How do you know this? I think the word you are looking for is Didn't which points to certain Igbo groups not having ultimate rulers at the time they were discovered by the Brits.

Oligarchy which Igbos practiced is a more advanced form of government than monarchy - circa 800 BC vs 2000 BC, and was therefore a natural step up from kingship
Kingship was restored/ introduced by Europeans not Binis. Unless you have information pointing to Bini style kingship east of the Niger.


That Aniomas et al are Igbo is a very convenient assertion when it suits certain agendas.
Anyhow, if "today they are Igbo" as you stated, it reinforces my earlier point that Igbos influenced Bini's east-bound exiled subject to the point that their origin is debatable. What a feat.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Spelling is not the crux of the matter but pronunciation.

Nothing like Kpomo spelling in Igbo form, because the word isn’t even Igbo to begin with.
with your comment,I can't argue with you
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Probz(m): 2:16pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Probably.
Yorubas have never laid any claims to owning ugu at any time anyways.

LMAO.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:16pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



sharap it was as a result of igbos presence... take it or leave it... there are traditional medicines you borrow from other tribes and as time goes on, you convert it to your own, that's the case of bitter leave... what yoruba call ewuro is that bitter thing inside hen... lol, don't call it English adage, it's yoruba adage please...

FYI Igbos are the one known to use it for soup n medicine, yorubas borrowed the medicinal part...


Ojooo o!!! you don't know anything, your head is empty, do research please

Omg, am I dreaming? lol.

Yorubas and Igbos who better pass for traditional medicine? lol .. don’t make me laugh.
Even today you all have abandoned all your village dibias and are too busy gulping agbo like there is no tomorrow.
How can Igbos introduce Ewuro into Yorubaland? I thought you were saying before that there is nothing like Ewuro?

What is your I.Q pls? Did I say that it was an English proverb?

What is the Igbo word for Jedi-jedi?

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:18pm On Jan 22, 2018
baby124:

Are you saying efo, which is spinach is also borrowed from Igbo? You are insane. The only vegetable used widely that is from Igbos is Ugwu.


idio.t but you said Akara and kpomo which is fried beans pud and animal hide or skin respectively are borrowed from yoruba.

you are just too stupi.d, efo is a yoruba word for leave, it's like calling premier or Eva oshe!
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by somegirl1: 2:18pm On Jan 22, 2018
maclatunji:


LOL, sorry but you seem to have forgotten that Igboland is landlocked. For Igbo slaves to have made it to the coast meant they were under the controllers of the shorelines. You would have to either go through Calabar or other parts of the Nigerdelta coast under the control of the Benin Empire.

No need to get upset, it is an historical fact, the Europeans preferred to stay on the coast and Conduct their business. There was no Igbo Empire to come visit in the Hinterland.

Even Badagry got relevance for the same reason. It was the preferred port for the Oyo Empire's slave trade.

If you want to argue bring your Igbo empire. Igbo settlements at time would hardly reach a village of 500 people claiming Independence. They would battle other villages if conflicts arouse but the return in terms of selling slaves would be insignificant. The only major Empire that could organize the numbers of slaves the Europeans needed in that region effectively is the Benin Kingdom which is also closely allied to the Oyo Empire as they both claim the same source.

You intentionally digress. What does access to sea, kidnapping and slave trading have to do with domination?
Your claim that Igbos were dominated by Binis is what I addressed.
That you have to kidnap individuals rather than simply command their groups to produce a number of them for sale demonstrates a lack of dominance over them.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:19pm On Jan 22, 2018
IjeleNwa:
with your comment,I can't argue with you

You want to also claim Kpomo like your brother?
Even that other word “tinko” that one of your bros mentioned is not Igbo either.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:20pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Omg, am I dreaming? lol.

Yorubas and Igbos who better pass for traditional medicine? lol .. don’t make me laugh.
Even today you all have abandoned all your village dibias and are too busy gulping agbo like there is no tomorrow.
How can Igbos introduce Ewuro into Yorubaland? I thought you were saying before that there is nothing like Ewuro?

What is your I.Q pls? Did I say that it was an English proverb?

What is the Igbo word for Jedi-jedi?



is jedi-jedi a yoruba word or a hausa word?

yeas you said there is an English adage...

so you have all decided to claim all the traditional mixtures you learnt from hausas as yorubas own
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by room089: 2:20pm On Jan 22, 2018
Ibos again!

Israel no send una at all!

Una move to Equatorial Guinea now to Jamaica!

Nigeria no contain una again!

Chance still dey Liberia now o! George We,ah don become presido una fit relocate!
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Odingo1: 2:21pm On Jan 22, 2018
You Africans argue alot, English and German have similar and sometimes the same words meaning the same thing, does it mean that one borrowed from the other one.
You came to this world and met your language and you are arguing wether the other one borrowed from your own.something that you dont know how it came about.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:22pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



idio.t but you said Akara and kpomo which is fried beans pud and animal hide or skin respectively are borrowed from yoruba.

you are just too stupi.d, efo is a yoruba word for leave, it's like calling premier or Eva oshe!

Dios mio , efo isn’t just any leaf, but edible vegetables.
Igalas call it Alefo. Or ‘Obo Alefo’ (Vegetable soup)
Don’t be forming like you underatand actual Yoruba simply because you were exposed to 2 months of broken Yoruba in Isolo.
The Yoruba word for leaf is Ewé.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:24pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


You want to also claim Kpomo like your brother?
Even that other word “tinko” that one of your bros mentioned is not Igbo either.

mumu tinko is an Igbo word which was derived from the sound it makes when you're eaten it... it's gotten from donkey hide or skin, go to north you and ask who are the major buyer or consumer...
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Lordave: 2:24pm On Jan 22, 2018
maclatunji:


Do you know that according to Chinua Achebe, appointing a king was a form of taboo in Igbo land? Most Igbo settlements were villages nor heavily populated, poorly equipped militarily. They could not withstand the superior military might of the Binis and their allies.

All those guys had to do was organize raiding parties overpower the Igbo resistance and that was it.
Of course appointing a king should be a taboo or some sort of illegitimacy in every given entity reasonable dwellers considering the manner of authority or power such king is to bear. So I don't need to stamp it into your tick hairless skull that 'APPOINTING' a king in Igboland is till being frowned upon up till this day and I believe same for Yorubas too.

Despite your claims of not heavily populated, unorganized, little or no military might the so called conquerors never left a foot print worth noting.

I know must be wondering how the Igbos managed to survive while eluding the Bini conquerors and their allies despite their military sophistication and superior civilization.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:25pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:


mumu tinko is an Igbo word which was derived from the sound it makes when you're eaten it... it's gotten from donkey hide or skin, go to north you and ask who are the major buyer or consumer...

Tinko is not Igbo... Lol take it or drop it.
But I won’t argue with you cause I have seen your precedents on this thread.

The other word Kanda isn’t Igbo either.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:28pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



is jedi-jedi a yoruba word or a hausa word?

yeas you said there is an English adage...

so you have all decided to claim all the traditional mixtures you learnt from hausas as yorubas own

And you claim to understand Nigerian languages. Lol ashe you be o2
How can jedijedi be Hausa?

If it exists in hausa that it came from Yoruba.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by sapientia(m): 2:28pm On Jan 22, 2018
Billyonaire:


The Tundes and the Emekas will start criticising each other, even though the Jamaicans swear that it was Igbos, the Nigerians will never accept, because Emeka and Tunde MUST not agree.

This is why I prefer Musa, he sits down, shuts his mouth and enjoys the spoils of the war between Emeka and Tunde.

Because Tunde must not let Emeka take glory for anything, because he is not to be trusted with any achievement even if it is his sweat.

You guys will never learn.

If i tell you to stop rewiring my brain with this your Tunde and Emeka now, you will starting talking humaniod and ETs again..

But seriously.. aside the comedy i enjoy in your Matrix posts... your Tunde and Emeka is an intelligent piece... let me simply get female names and start mine.. All these undue hatred and jealousy must end this 2018.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Nobody: 2:28pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


You want to also claim Kpomo like your brother?
Even that other word “tinko” that one of your bros mentioned is not Igbo either.
pls ur comments are welcomed but pls don't tackle me or see me as a tribalist like ur self,be objective nd constructive with actual facts to reckon

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by baby124: 2:32pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



idio.t but you said Akara and kpomo which is fried beans pud and animal hide or skin respectively are borrowed from yoruba.

you are just too stupi.d, efo is a yoruba word for leave, it's like calling premier or Eva oshe!
Lmao. I am obviously arguing with a jobless person. Akara, ponmo, egusi are all Yoruba words. In fact there is different Egusi cooking methods by Yoruba group, but one thing in common is the way they make the base. Spinach is popularly called just Efo. But it’s really Efo amunututu. I am done arguing with you. Soon you will say Shaki is an Igbo word. We also have Tete, Shoko yokoto (another spinach), Ewedu

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:32pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Dios mio , efo isn’t just any leaf, but edible vegetables.
Igalas call it Alefo. Or ‘Obo Alefo’ (Vegetable soup)
Don’t be forming like you underatand actual Yoruba simply because you were exposed to 2 months of broken Yoruba in Isolo.
The Yoruba word for leaf is Ewé.


Cabra, I have toured yorubaland more than you do...

idiota, you're contradicting yourself... don't change your stance, you said efo is spinach and I said efo is a general name for leave(must I tell you I mean edible ones)
I took first in school in yoruba language I was given a cane to flog people like you who think they know it more than others because it's their language

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by maclatunji: 2:32pm On Jan 22, 2018
somegirl1:


You intentionally digress. What does access to sea, kidnapping and slave trading have to do with domination?
Your claim that Igbos were dominated by Binis is what I addressed.
That you have to kidnap individuals rather than simply command their groups to produce a number of them for sale demonstrates a lack of dominance over them.

The report I quoted states thousands. That's almost the equivalent of millions by today's standards. I call it 'subjugation', you call it 'kidnapping'.

Is it even possible for Igbos to kidnap Igbos, move them to the coastlines to be sold to Europeans in places they do not control?

That is where access to the sea comes in. Igbos did not dislike themselves enough to sell the number of slaves that were taken out of Igboland, it was not kidnapping too. The only rational explanation, is a superior force raiding Igboland for a very long time. It wasn't the Nupe nor Yoruba, it had to be your immediate neighbours, the Bini.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Probz(m): 2:35pm On Jan 22, 2018
baby124:

Lmao. I am obviously arguing with a jobless person. Akara, ponmo, egusi are all Yoruba words. In fact there is different Egusi cooking methods by Yoruba group, but one thing in common is the way they make the base. Spinach is popularly called just Efo. But it’s really Efo amunututu. I am done arguing with you. Soon you will say Shaki is an Igbo word.

And I’m telling you egusi’s shared.

You still haven’t answered me on akpurakpu egusi.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by maclatunji: 2:35pm On Jan 22, 2018
baby124:

Lmao. I am obviously arguing with a jobless person. Akara, ponmo, egusi are all Yoruba words. In fact there is different Egusi cooking methods by Yoruba group, but one thing in common is the way they make the base. Spinach is popularly called just Efo. But it’s really Efo amunututu. I am done arguing with you. Soon you will say Shaki is an Igbo word. We also have Tete, Shoko yokoto (another spinach), Ewedu

LWKMD
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:35pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:


Cabra, I have toured yorubaland more than you do...

idiota, you're contradicting yourself... don't change your stance, you said efo is spinach and I said efo is a general name for leave(must I tell you I mean edible ones)
I took first in school in yoruba language I was given a cane to flog people like you who think they know it more than others because it's their language

lol you have toured Yorubaland more than me in your previous live maybe. But definitely not this one.

You were arguing with two people mind you. I wasn’t the one wbo said efo is spinach.

SPINACH in Yoruba is Efo tete.
BITTER LEAF Is Efo Ewuro
WATER LEAF is Efo Gbure

Etc Like that, like that depending on the particilular specie of EDIBLE vegetable LEAVES.

Your knowledge of Yoruba language is like a toddler just picking up terminologies in a new tongue at the level which I am at. I can bet you don’t even understand Igbo as much as I understand Yoruba.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Feraz(m): 2:36pm On Jan 22, 2018
Lordave:
I don't think you were referring to me but I me chip in, anyway.
What influence do Edo people had or have on Igbos?If Edo had an influence on Igbos it was on people of Onicha and the influence was contained there in Onicha or maybe a bit further into Anambra and not Igbos in General as you and your mischievous fellows are trying to paint it.

Your last paragraph, though. Where there ever a German, Italian, Greek or Roman invasion of England? How do you explain the so many borrowed words in English language?

Your ignorant self won't let you know that there is no superior language. You think inferior languages borrow from superior ones.
Even the Bini influence on Onicha is debatable. I mean, people would always refer to Eze Chime (a reverse migration which occurred then) as if there weren't people living after the Niger river.

P.S.: I do not think it went further down into Anambra.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by konoplyanka: 2:37pm On Jan 22, 2018
somegirl1:


Never had kings? How do you know this? I think the word you are looking for is Didn't which points to certain Igbo groups not having ultimate rulers at the time they were discovered by the Brits.

Oligarchy which Igbos practiced is a more advanced form of government than monarchy - circa 800 BC vs 2000 BC, and was therefore a natural step up from kingship
Kingship was restored/ introduced by Europeans not Binis. Unless you have information pointing to Bini style kingship east of the Niger.


That Aniomas et al are Igbo is a very convenient assertion when it suits certain agendas.
Anyhow, if "today they are Igbo" as you stated, it reinforces my earlier point that Igbos influenced Bini's east-bound exiled subject to the point that their origin is debatable. What a feat.

So igbos had king's now? What of igbo enwe eze?

Obi of onicha and dein of agbor are influences the Benin have on igbos and no matter how heard you try, you can't deny Benin influence on igbos.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by laydoh(m): 2:40pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:


just when you run out of lies and can no longer backup your lies, you switch to insult... you are a big fo.ol, I know you guys very well... you can su.ck a dickkk for all I care

jide in Yoruba is stand up or to rise up
jide in Igbo is hold on to or simply hold (yonhold something)...
Jidenna- hold on to father (God
Oluwajide- Lord stand up or rise up...

You're the one lacking intellectually for failing to see a clear example
nonsense,u no ntin abt yoruba n kip 4mng jagaban,jide is nt stand up,dide is stand up whle jide is wake
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:41pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


And you claim to understand Nigerian languages. Lol ashe you be o2
How can jedijedi be Hausa?

If it exists in hausa that it came from Yoruba.


mumu tinko is an Igbo word which was derived from the sound it makes when you're eaten it... it's gotten from donkey hide or skin, go to north you and ask who are the major buyer or consumer

after this let's close this case please, I can see you have never been to hausaland before, they eat more sugars than yorubas, they have stronger medicines for jedi-jedi... I understand, you want to claim jedi-jedi just the same way you tried to claim ireke (sugarcane) which is reike or alubosa which is alibasa abi...

ask yourself one question do you consume more sugar than them or do you suffer the ailment than them...

again, do you cultivate sugarcane and alibasa (onions) more than them, they are the ones supplying you all those things so why do you think the name originated from buyers angle instead of the supplier (producers) angle

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by konoplyanka: 2:42pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:


Cabra, I have toured yorubaland more than you do...

idiota, you're contradicting yourself... don't change your stance, you said efo is spinach and I said efo is a general name for leave(must I tell you I mean edible ones)
I took first in school in yoruba language I was given a cane to flog people like you who think they know it more than others because it's their language

Yes efo is general name for edible leaves. But there is a particular leaf we also call efo. That's efo Tete. If you call Tete just efo everyone would understand you. But you can't call ewuro just efo unless you say efo ewuro.

So no matter how you try you can't understand yoruba more than the indigenes so quit your folly.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 2:43pm On Jan 22, 2018
somegirl1:


Never had kings? How do you know this? I think the word you are looking for is Didn't which points to certain Igbo groups not having ultimate rulers at the time they were discovered by the Brits.

Oligarchy which Igbos practiced is a more advanced form of government than monarchy - circa 800 BC vs 2000 BC, and was therefore a natural step up from kingship
Kingship was restored/ introduced by Europeans not Binis. Unless you have information pointing to Bini style kingship east of the Niger.


That Aniomas et al are Igbo is a very convenient assertion when it suits certain agendas.
Anyhow, if "today they are Igbo" as you stated, it reinforces my earlier point that Igbos influenced Bini's east-bound exiled subject to the point that their origin is debatable. What a feat.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Feraz(m): 2:45pm On Jan 22, 2018
maclatunji:


Do you know that according to Chinua Achebe, appointing a king was a form of taboo in Igbo land? Most Igbo settlements were villages nor heavily populated, poorly equipped militarily. They could not withstand the superior military might of the Binis and their allies.

All those guys had to do was organize raiding parties overpower the Igbo resistance and that was it.
Poorly equipped military yet, they waged war against the British for close to 40 years. The Binis have never claimed to conquer Igboland or fight them unlike when of recent, Lagos and Ado-Ekiti were being debated. I really do wonder where you get your history from. Isn't it Maclatunji, the one who enjoys twisting things to suit his purpose? undecided

sapientia:


If i tell you to stop rewiring my brain with this your Tunde and Emeka now, you will starting talking humaniod and ETs again..

But seriously.. aside the comedy i enjoy in your Matrix posts... your Tunde and Emeka is an intelligent piece... let me simply get female names and start mine.. All these undue hatred and jealousy must end this 2018.
LOL! Of a truth, the narrative has been making sense.

bibe:


The Nri kingdom which influenced most of Igbo culture and civilisation was the oldest kingdom in present day Nigeria by historical sources and at it's zennith expanded up to margins of then and yet to metamorphosize bini empire.

With the birth and Rise of the bini empire it also extended it's influence further west crossing Agbor and up to present day Asaba (this why you have a lot more igbo cultural influence than that of bini in this areas) before it's fall.

Thus the Nri kingdom being the older had consolidated is influence way before and longer before the bini empire did.
On the contrary, I think the Nok culture (from which it was claimed the Yoruba and Bini culture are an offshoot of it) was the oldest in present day Nigeria.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 2:46pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



mumu tinko is an Igbo word which was derived from the sound it makes when you're eaten it... it's gotten from donkey hide or skin, go to north you and ask who are the major buyer or consumer

after this let's close this case please, I can see you have never been to hausaland before, they eat more sugars than yorubas, they have stronger medicines for jedi-jedi... I understand, you want to claim jedi-jedi just the same way you tried to claim ireke (sugarcane) which is reike or alubosa which is alibasa abi...

ask yourself one question do you consume more sugar than them or do you suffer the ailment than them...

again, do you cultivate sugarcane and alibasa (onions) more than them, they are the ones supplying you all those things so why do you think the name originated from buyers angle instead of the supplier (producers) angle

See someone who claims to have taken first in Yoruba language at his school arguing with me about the origin of Jedi Jedi.
lol first from the back of that class list maybe. cheesy
Either that, Or maybe your school was filled with Igbos only or complete Olodo yoruba boys and girls.

Reke and Alubosa are Hausa and Arabic words respectively- nobody is arguing that. It is so funny the way you keep bringing the unrelated Hausas into this discussion. Hausa language isn’t even Niger Congo yet I can still point to many Hausa terms of Yoruba origin.
Is there any Hausa word of Igbo origin? (just for curiosity)

Pls focus on the topic at hand or let the discussion end there like you already proposed.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by konoplyanka: 2:47pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



mumu tinko is an Igbo word which was derived from the sound it makes when you're eaten it... it's gotten from donkey hide or skin, go to north you and ask who are the major buyer or consumer

after this let's close this case please, I can see you have never been to hausaland before, they eat more sugars than yorubas, they have stronger medicines for jedi-jedi... I understand, you want to claim jedi-jedi just the same way you tried to claim ireke (sugarcane) which is reike or alubosa which is alibasa abi...

ask yourself one question do you consume more sugar than them or do you suffer the ailment than them...

again, do you cultivate sugarcane and alibasa (onions) more than them, they are the ones supplying you all those things so why do you think the name originated from buyers angle instead of the supplier (producers) angle

You are too daft. How can you claim jedijedi as hausa if you don't know the etymology of the word itself. And you were claiming to come first in Yoruba. Another reason I don't take you ibos serious because of your lies. Anybody who understands Yoruba can't make such ignorant claim.

Je idi je idi= jedijedi

Idi butthole
Je=eat

It means something that eats deep into your butthole. You scratch your butthole when you have jedijedi.

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