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OkaiCorne:
Really? How much research did you do before arriving at this conclusion?

Let's take just one of them as an example.

What is the scientific explanation of how life came about? What about the diversity of living things? How does that agree with the Genesis creation account?

dalaman:
Let's take just one of them as an example.

What is the scientific explanation of how life came about? What about the diversity of living things? How does that agree with the Genesis creation account?

First things first, the Genesis story is not the first instance of creation of life forms on this planet...

Neither does scientific explanation of how life started on this planet invalidate the Genesis story.

The Genesis account is a story of re-creation of a pre-existing world put in chaos...

Let's be careful not mistake a re-boot of the system for the creation of that system

How deep are you into the study of how planets are formed? Let's start from there

OkaiCorne:
The Genesis account is a story of re-creation of a pre-existing world put in chaos...

Where did you get this from? In what part of the bible does this appear?

dalaman:
Where did you get this from? In what part of the bible does this appear?

Between Genesis Chapter 1v1 and Genesis Chapter 1v2

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the waters.


There was a creation in the beginning as per verse 1...then verse 2 subsequently tells you the earth was without form and void, that tells you there is a gap and disconnect...


Now lets go beyond the Bible to continue with our discussion, because the author of Genesis is writing the creation story from a limited view point of Heaven and Earth alone...

Back to my question, do you know how a planet is formed? And are you aware that as we speak right now, planets are in the process of being formed? An in-depth research on the universe and the role of universal energy in creation would answer most of the questions you raised...

OkCornel:
It's currently sub-merged in the Persian gulf. The great deluge a.k.a Noah's flood was responsible for this.

You can watch this 3 minutes documentary by hydrologist experts who traced the location of Eden using the four rivers described in Genesis i.e. Tigris, Euphrates, Pishon & Gihon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keNZgi4IDmQ&feature=share

Cheers

2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible"

2:49 - "So in theory"

Even the narrator admits it is not proof of the garden of Eden. It is only a theory

And you are here making it seem like there is a picture of the tree with the supposed fruit of life

Obviously you are applying your emotion to the video. Even Jehovah is not real

OkaiCorne:
Let me replay your logic for you. Assuming something catastrophic happens and Lagos is submerged in the Ocean...10,000 years after, someone says Lagos never existed, does that make sense to you?

That is in no way my logic! Imagine someone wrote about a place called Labadangos that was submerged 10,000 years ago off the coast of Lagos and said it was the size of Nigeria. Evidence for it, if it ever existed, would not be very hard to find!

No credible evidence has been found for Atlantis!

budaatum:
That is in no way my logic! Imagine someone wrote about a place called Labadangos that was submerged 10,000 years ago off the coast of Lagos and said it was the size of Nigeria. Evidence for it, if it ever existed, would not be very hard to find!

No credible evidence has been found for Atlantis!

So you are saying no ruins were found in the ocean where Plato described as where Atlantis used to be?

hahn:
2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible"

2:49 - "So in theory"

Even the narrator admits it is not proof of the garden of Eden. It is only a theory

And you are here making it seem like there is a picture of the tree with the supposed fruit of life

Obviously you are applying your emotion to the video. Even Jehovah is not real

Bros, don't put words into my mouth.

The Genesis account of creation mentions where four rivers meet...and the documentary corroborates it...

So what's your point again? That the entire documentary is false?

budaatum:
That is in no way my logic! Imagine someone wrote about a place called Labadangos that was submerged 10,000 years ago off the coast of Lagos and said it was the size of Nigeria. Evidence for it, if it ever existed, would not be very hard to find!

No credible evidence has been found for Atlantis!

See the flaw in your argument again...you have concluded that something doesn't exist even right from the start point of your argument...

Biko what the heck is Labadangos?

Atlantis once existed but is no more... unless you're waiting for photographs of people that once lived there

See the logic of people oo...

So if something is totally lost to the hands of time...it never existed.

If a boy in the Amazon who has no identification records whatsoever...or contact with civilization, it means such a boy never existed...

na wa ooo

OkaiCorne:
Bros, don't put words into my mouth.

The Genesis account of creation mentions where four rivers meet...and the documentary corroborates it...

So what's your point again? That the entire documentary is false?

Stop putting words into the mouth of the narrator. It is all a theory and even the narrator admits it

The video does not assert the location of the garden of Eden. It only present a "plausible" theory

In my first comment I pointed out the time in the video where he mentioned it

Maybe you did not watch the video properly

Go back and do so

hahn:
Stop putting words into the mouth of the narrator. It is all a theory and even the narrator admits it

The video does not assert the location of the garden of Eden. It only present a "plausible" theory

In my first comment I pointed out the time in the video where he mentioned it

Maybe you did not watch the video properly

Go back and do so

Wait a minute, what is the theory here? that there is no place that exists where the four rivers converged?

Please tell me more...

There are more evidences asides the video sef...I would like to see you debunk them one by one...

The logic is simple and straight forward, the Bible mentions Eden is a place where four rivers came from, and the video clearly shows that four rivers have a meeting point...what does that tell you?

OkaiCorne:
Wait a minute, what is the theory here? that there is no place that exists where the four rivers converged?

Please tell me more...

There are more evidences asides the video sef...I would like to see you debunk them one by one...

The logic is simple and straight forward, the Bible mentions Eden is a place where four rivers came from, and the video clearly shows that four rivers have a meeting point...what does that tell you?

Can you please quote where the narrator says "this is proof that this is the location of Eden"

I have already quoted where he said in 2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible" and in 2:49 - "So in theory"

Those are his own words

The video is not assertive

It seems you have a problem listening and understanding

Hopefullandlord, budaatum, Martinez19 and dalaman please watch the video. The narrator does not say authoritatively that is the location of Eden. It is all a bloody theory but this dude just wants to please his emotions and delusion by twisting the words of the narrator

hahn:
Can you please quote where the narrator says "this is proof that this is the location of Eden"

I have already quoted where he said in 2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible" and in 2:49 - "So in theory"

Those are his own words

The video is not assertive

It seems you have a problem listening and understanding

Hopefullandlord, budaatum and dalaman please watch the video. The narrator does not say authoritatively that is the location of Eden. It is all a bloody theory but this dude just wants to please his emotions and delusion by twisting the words of the narrator

I know that already, I just decided to leave him to it after I engaged him a bit on it and found out he's trying hard to make it a fact with all the energy he could muster

hopefulLandlord:
I know that already, I just decided to leave him to it after I engaged him a bit on it and found out he's trying hard to make it a fact with all the energy he could muster

OkaiCorne's delusion is classic

hahn:
Can you please quote where the narrator says "this is proof that this is the location of Eden"

I have already quoted where he said in 2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible" and in 2:49 - "So in theory"

Those are his own words

The video is not assertive

It seems you have a problem listening and understanding

Hopefullandlord, budaatum, Martinez19 and dalaman please watch the video. The narrator does not say authoritatively that is the location of Eden. It is all a bloody theory but this dude just wants to please his emotions and delusion by twisting the words of the narrator

Per the bolded...I'm not surprised, it's the typical nature of immature nairalanders to leave the topic of discussion and throw around unprovoked insults...

So you are hiding behind the words of the narrator that it's a "plausible theory" right? What if I bring more videos with an assertive conclusion on the matter?

WHAT WILL BE YOUR NEXT EXCUSE? That the author of those videos are liars and emotional people too?

So going by your logic...all theories are false abi??

hahn:
Can you please quote where the narrator says "this is proof that this is the location of Eden"

I have already quoted where he said in 2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible" and in 2:49 - "So in theory"

Those are his own words

The video is not assertive

It seems you have a problem listening and understanding

Hopefullandlord, budaatum, Martinez19 and dalaman please watch the video. The narrator does not say authoritatively that is the location of Eden. It is all a bloody theory but this dude just wants to please his emotions and delusion by twisting the words of the narrator

lol. I know him very well. He is dubious and never straight forward.

hahn:
OkaiCorne's delusion is classic

Grow up and focus on the topic instead of throwing around unnecessary insults...

I don't recall insulting you to pass across my points...

I watched it. It proposed a theory that is plausible. It is however unlikely, though the references to those rivers in the bible do kind of indicate somewhere around there was meant

OkaiCorne tends to believe these videos, as his post history shows. He treats them like believers treat their holy books and nothing seems to make him want to reconsider. I'd want to accuse him of wasting my data on his nonsense post, except I can afford it. Can't afford the time though, so I'm letting him be soon.

hahn:
Can you please quote where the narrator says "this is proof that this is the location of Eden"

I have already quoted where he said in 2:39 - "He admits his case isn't rock solid but it is plausible" and in 2:49 - "So in theory"

Those are his own words

The video is not assertive

It seems you have a problem listening and understanding

Hopefullandlord, budaatum, Martinez19 and dalaman please watch the video. The narrator does not say authoritatively that is the location of Eden. It is all a bloody theory but this dude just wants to please his emotions and delusion by twisting the words of the narrator

Martinez19:
lol. I know him very well. He is dubious and never straight forward.

Any example of me being dubious and never straightforward...or you're not smart enough to understand me?

Abeg let's focus on the topic if you guys really want to argue this out...

budaatum:
I watched it. It proposed a theory that is plausible. It is however unlikely, though the references to those rivers in the bible do kind of indicate somewhere around there was meant

OkaiCorne tends to believe these videos, as his post history shows. He treats them like believers treat their holy books and nothing seems to make him want to reconsider. I'd want to accuse him of wasting my data on his nonsense post, except I can afford it. Can't afford the time though, so I'm letting him be soon.

Do you have any videos to prove what I've posted wrong?

hopefulLandlord:
I know that already, I just decided to leave him to it after I engaged him a bit on it and found out he's trying hard to make it a fact with all the energy he could muster

Are all theories false? yes or no

It's funny how a man born blind thinks a man with sight is delusional

The Bible mentions a land where four rivers converge as the garden of Eden...

The documentary has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that indeed, four rivers (two now extinct) converge in an area currently submerged in the Persian Gulf. Infact, if you check your map, it currently shows Tigris and Euphrates are routed to the Persian Gulf...

The documentary clearly proves four rivers once converged...and some guys just don't seem to get the simple logic that the documentary corroborates what the Bible says on those rivers...

Sadly, these guys are waiting for videos and photographs of Eden before they can "connect the dots"...so much for their level of intelligence...

Please go ahead and prove the researchers wrong on the fact that these rivers never converged at a point!

OkaiCorne:
See the flaw in your argument again...you have concluded that something doesn't exist even right from the start point of your argument...

Biko what the heck is Labadangos?

Atlantis once existed but is no more... unless you're waiting for photographs of people that once lived there

Labadangos is a mythical place the size of Nigeria. It was submerged 10,000 years ago off the coast of Lagos. There is no video of it because no one has discovered it yet.

Please note, my research into Atlantis preceded my discussion of it with you. An interest in mysticism would ensure one comes across it as it has been used in mystical allegory. In fact, not understanding that it is mythical and allegorical simply shows you have not got a clue, and if you read my past posts, you would have read of my experience of Tom and Jerry being put forward for talking oyinbo rats!

OkaiCorne:
Per the bolded...I'm not surprised, it's the typical nature of immature nairalanders to leave the topic of discussion and throw around unprovoked insults...

So you are hiding behind the words of the narrator that it's a "plausible theory" right? What if I bring more videos with an assertive conclusion on the matter?

WHAT WILL BE YOUR NEXT EXCUSE? That the author of those videos are liars and emotional people too?

So going by your logic...all theories are false abi??

The mere fact that you have not addresses the quotes I made from the video shows how intellectually dishonest you are

Have a nice day

budaatum:
Labadangos is a mythical place the size of Nigeria. It was submerged 10,000 years ago off the coast of Lagos. There is no video of it because no one has discovered it yet.

Please note, my research into Atlantis preceded my discussion of it with you. An interest in mysticism would ensure one comes across it as it has been used in mystical allegory. In fact, not understanding that it is mythical and allegorical simply shows you have not got a clue, and if you read my past posts, you would have read of my experience of Tom and Jerry being put forward for talking oyinbo rats!

Since you have researched into mysticism, have you heard of the Akashic records...or the Urantia papers?

hahn:
The mere fact that you have not addresses the quotes I made from the video shows how intellectually dishonest you are

Have a nice day

Time to run away?

Please point out the flaws in my logic and conclusion;

The Bible mentions that Eden exists in a location where four rivers converged,

The documentary proves beyond a reasonable doubt that these rivers once converged,

so therefore, the area the Bible described as Eden once existed.

Argue this out or say good bye

OkaiCorne:
Time to run away?

Please point out the flaws in my logic and conclusion;

The Bible mentions that Eden exists in a location where four rivers converged,

The documentary proves beyond a reasonable doubt that these rivers once converged,

so therefore, the area the Bible described as Eden once existed.

Argue this out or say good bye

You don't know what "have a nice day" means abi?

hahn:
You don't know what "have a nice day" means abi?

Okay ooo "have a nice day" too

OkaiCorne:
So you are saying no ruins were found in the ocean where Plato described as where Atlantis used to be?

Yes, I am saying no ruins were found in the ocean where Plato described as where Atlantis used to be

Plato was describing what he claimed Critias had heard from his grandfather who had heard it from Solon who heard it from the Egyptians. He hadn't been there or seen it himself nor did he know where it was. Besides, he was used to making things up to make his point. And no ruins have fit the huge city Critias described. And Poseidon and his son Atlas who ruled that city, are mythical.

Please educate yourself Plato's Atlantis

OkaiCorne:
Since you have researched into mysticism, have you heard of the Akashic records...or the Urantia papers?

Yes I have. You however have not shown the intellectual capacity for me to discuss such things with, so I will pass. Thanks.