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maidaboi:
sorry i will not share any player injury news here again if thats how people see things here i am disapointed if that post is seen as celebrated

Mujtahida:
The bolded is heartily seconded. Cheers

maidaboi:
sorry i will not share any player injury news here again if thats how people see things here i am disapointed if that post is seen as celebrated

TheGoodJoe:
This time is not about competition but playing under a system that will develop him at a fast rate to a top quality player. Build his rep and propel him to play on some of the highest stages.

Puel seems like a timid negative coach and I doubt he can create the right environment for Nacho to reach his potentials.

LieDetector:
Development works in tandem with competition bro. This same Puel developed some players who have come to become established stars. Guadiola has a good antecedent of developing young stars. If Nacho should leave Leicester, there's no guarantee another young prodigy would not emerge to give him a run for his money. Exactly what Diabate is doing at Leicester. His ability to displace an existing player and/or maintain a certain position exemplifies his class

LieDetector:
The Aguero-Gabriel Jesus instance you gave butresses my point the more. Aguero is a good player no doubt but when juxtaposed with GJ, you get to find out he isn't just good enough. GJ checks a handful of the requisites of a 21st century striker. Reason why he always starts ahead of Aguero if match fit. Talking about Nacho; he's up against an unknown Diabate. One would think Diabate's appearances would be limited to short cameos but it's the other way round. Diabate to me is an unknown player so if Nacho should struggle for playing time with him in the picture, it means he simply isn't good enough.

TheSuperNerd:
Yeah, but I hope you understand what I really mean by the hammer of truth. You see when Jesus called the scribes or was it Sadducees or pharisees brood of vipers, he was also speaking the truth. So yeah... The hammer of truth anf facts encompasses all... So now I advise you also talk to the critics to back off foul comments on Our young players too....

All this talk... Let me tell you something, if you are afraid to speak up against the grave negativity and do it consistently or would rather play diplomatic with the truth when foul and untrue things are being said pir young Stars then you are only in indirect support of it.

This is why talking to me is funny... because the people youbshoukd he talking to are the pessimists of this thread. Me, I just do what I do and several gfolks here appreciate it... Let me walk my path Sir Mujtahida. The hammer is mine to use and use I will.

TheGoodJoe:

I do not know what Diabate has done. Nacho is not an existing player because he has not been given the chance. Puel bought Diabate himself from the French league, keeping in mind that Puel is French. So there is every opportunity for preference to justify the player he bought.

Not like Diabate has done something out of the ordinary.

I was always against Nacho moving because I wanted him training under an offensive system. So this is not a case of supporting repeated moves. This is about Nacho training and playing under a very offensive system which I doubt Puel can offer.

maidaboi:
Okazaki injured out for 2 weeks

LieDetector:
Game time I believe is a function of a player's training performance. If Nacho checks Puel's demands, He'll surely get lots of playing time. At some point he hardly made Leicester's bench but with some improved adjustments in deficient areas; His first touch notably, we saw him getting a run of games in the FA cup and some few minutes in the PL. He needs to work more

LieDetector:
Game time I believe is a function of a player's training performance. If Nacho checks Puel's demands, He'll surely get lots of playing time. At some point he hardly made Leicester's bench but with some improved adjustments in deficient areas; His first touch notably, we saw him getting a run of games in the FA cup and some few minutes in the PL. He needs to work more

andrew444:
Puel bought diabate and you expect him not to play him? If ranieri is still at leichester you think musa will rot on the reserves? For you to say nacho is not good enough says it all,you don't know what you are saying,someone is not good enough but he was bought for 25million pounds

Or you think if pellegrini is still man city coach they will buy Gabriel Jesus and sell nacho?you just can't hide what you feel for nacho,I don't need to mention it,for you saying he is not good enough says it all.

LieDetector:
A player's worth is never a measure of his quality. Mahrez's tranfer fee to Leicester isn't even up to a million pounds, Bakayoko to chelsea was £40m. Judging these two players by their tranfer fees, one would think bakayoko is 40 times better than Mahrez.

I'm not saying he isn't worth the fee though but take a closer look at players bought with fee close to or slightly above that £25m mark. You'll make judgement for youself.

I'm not what you suppose or assume I am. A hater right? Trust me I want the best for Nacho

TheGoodJoe:

I am not just interested in game time but playing and training under a very offensive system which will propel Nacho because of his lethal finishing ability. Something I doubt Puel can offer.

andrew444:
Guilty conscience?you are what I assume you are.

Are you praising diabate after 2 premier league games?to your eyes he is good enough because puel played him ahead of nacho yesterday in a clueless formation that makes them lost 5-1,don't tell me nacho is not good enough,in the eyes of pep guardiola Samuel eto was not good enough,but he remains one of the World greatest strikers in history not just Africa alone.

And mind you nacho was bought for peanut from a so called Taye academy.

LieDetector:
point out where I praised Diabate and I will accept that I'm a hater. Diabate wasn't the reason Leicester conceded 5.

zicky:
yea, the game was in Ghana, five penalties all missed by five different players. the home team got four of the five penalties. I think that match should be investigated

LieDetector:
A footballer can not play without training and no footballer will want to train without playing. Training and playing(game time) are necessary for a player's all round development. He could stick with just training with Mancity to polish his finishing ability but the effect would be counter productive. No team would go for 'inexperienced' players irrespective of the team you play for. You'd at best be loaned out to gain experience and you know how bleak the chances of a loan player making it to the first team. A dwindling career at a promising time.

maidaboi:
enjoying your debate with thegoodjoe

Mujtahida:
But I think a good team should can play good football and still win trophies. Pep believes in good football and winning trophies too.

Joebie:
Sure. But there are several brands of good football. But if ur talking about the most beautiful, i’d rather win with a decent brand c than being the most entertaining but without a trophy. Don’t forget the science in football.

Pep is proving It again now though. Let’s see if it will last beyond this season.

LieDetector:
A footballer can not play without training and no footballer will want to train without playing. Training and playing(game time) are necessary for a player's all round development. He could stick with just training with Mancity to polish his finishing ability but the effect would be counter productive. No team would go for 'inexperienced' players irrespective of the team you play for. You'd at best be loaned out to gain experience and you know how bleak the chances of a loan player making it to the first team. A dwindling career at a promising time.

LieDetector:
A footballer can not play without training and no footballer will want to train without playing. Training and playing(game time) are necessary for a player's all round development. He could stick with just training with Mancity to polish his finishing ability but the effect would be counter productive. No team would go for 'inexperienced' players irrespective of the team you play for. You'd at best be loaned out to gain experience and you know how bleak the chances of a loan player making it to the first team. A dwindling career at a promising time.

TheGoodJoe:

I did not say no game time. The point is simple. I am not talking about just game time. That does not mean no game time. However, the effect of training and playing in a more offensive system improves the player better than a negative one, even if the playing time is reduced.

That is why Morata without a truck load of experience cost a fortune.

Finito.

LieDetector:
A player's worth is never a measure of his quality. Mahrez's tranfer fee to Leicester isn't even up to a million pounds, Bakayoko to chelsea was £40m. Judging these two players by their tranfer fees, one would think bakayoko is 40 times better than Mahrez.

I'm not saying he isn't worth the fee though but take a closer look at players bought with fee close to or slightly above that £25m mark. You'll make judgement for youself.

I'm not what you suppose or assume I am. A hater right? Trust me I want the best for Nacho

LieDetector:
if Morata is the kind of player you would want Iheanacho to become, then you're obviously after him becoming just an expensive buy. Morata is a perfect example of a player that hates competition. Could not compete at Juve and Madrid. Tottenham made him an offer but he sighted Harry Kane's presence as reason for not wanting a move to Spurs. Take a look at the kind of player he has become and pray tell if Iheanacho were your brother, you'd advice him to take a cue from Morata's football adventure.

komekn:
Essentially what you have put forward amounts to Balderdash. YOU HAVE COMPLETELY NO IDEA.


You have no idea about the team dynamics at Liverpool fc this a top team in Europe with some of the best players in the world gracing the team.

You have Multi million ££ internationallly established players ahead of Seyi Ojo, Sallah, Mane, Llanna, Coutinho, etc, etc.

Solanke is a striker not a winger. I know 100% that Klopp really likes him and refused to sell him.

About players of Nigerian origin Ibe was a regular in the squad at Liverpool before he moved to Bournemouth.

I am not sure what you mean by success. But with regards to the top teams in Europe I can assure there are far more Nigerian origin born in the UK playing at these top clubs in England.

The question ❓ is how good is Seyi ❓ Comparative analysis to put things in perspective. Tell me one Nigerian player that will walk into Liverpool first team Not 2 or 3 just one that's all. That means your proposition is unfair and is not applicable. It's using different units of measurement. That is essentially double standard and prejudiced and not in the spirit of open truthful and honest discourse.

Now tell me the Nigerian players that are better than him in the position of left sided midfield or left Wing.

Give me your rational proven basis essentially justify but not on emotive sentiment.

With regards to teenager who have been regular starter in the top teams of the EPL there are just a mere handful and if I go back. Nedum Onouha was a teenage regular starter in the EPL at Manchester City.

Tega Abrahams is a regular at Swansea with up to 8 EPL teams chasing him at the start of the season. Anichebe as a teenager at Everton was a regular starter at Everton.

In this discourse you have very unwisely OVER and OUTED yourself with misinformation and irreverent posturing.

FYI Seyi was bought for £1.8 million at the tender age of 14. Possibly the most expensive 14 year old in EPL history that's a record of success in itself. With his Dad agent laughing all the way to the bank.

By the way my information is not based on newspaper reports or Wikipedia.