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LieDetector:
if Morata is the kind of player you would want Iheanacho to become, then you're obviously after him becoming just an expensive buy. Morata is a perfect example of a player that hates competition. Could not compete at Juve and Madrid. Tottenham made him an offer but he sighted Harry Kane's presence as reason for not wanting a move to Spurs. Take a look at the kind of player he has become and pray tell if Iheanacho were your brother, you'd advice him to take a cue from Morata's football adventure.

Mujtahida:
Sure you free to hammer them. My own is that just as you are free, they also are free. If you Hammer them by perhaps calling them brood of vipers they will hammer you back by perhaps calling you same or even worse. It's a two way traffic. I hope I will not be construed as being irreverent: Jesus called the Pharisees vipers, they called him a winebiber, a consort of prostitutes and even an impostor. He didn't complain. So when you hammer them and they hammer back let it be taken manfully. Yes.


I don't get this idea of talking to you being funny and making it seem I support the naysayers. Walk your path. Let others walk their path. That's just my own. Not once have I tried to stop you from expressing your views, not once have I said don't counter negativity. I only say respect should be between both sides. I only say it does not lie in any man's mouth to say others with a contrary opinion should not talk, should not analyse. We all have the same right to express ourselves and speak our minds!

My Bro, I have not told you to back off saying positive things about the team and No, I will not tell those who express negativity to back off. The best we can do is to counter them not tell them to back off. I appreciate the positive opinions and I also appreciate the negative opinions even though I find it hurtful. Night and day, darkness and light both make life possible. Let both parties state their opinions and carry on debates in fairness, with respect - that's how I feel it should be. Space that takes in black and white is what I feel we should create here.

Hammer them with your hammer of truth, they too will hammer you with theirs. Hammer ain't only in your hands - this much you should know. And remember when you call them viper, you are opening yourself up to them calling you by worse names.

If you want to subtly tag me a hater or supporter of negativity just because I stand my ground and say both sides should respect each other, you welcome Bro. This is precisely the psychological game playing out on elyte89 but I understand it very well and I am not fazed.I stand for freedom and respect. I don't think I need to press the point cos forumites know how vigorously I have countered negativity here even for the same Nacho. Cos all I see playing out here is that people should not express negativity. Why not? Is negativity not part of life? I find negativity towards the SE heart-rending but I will not say that those who express such views should not do so. For why? On what ground? Similarly if those expressing negative views want to shut down those with positive views I will intervene. Both parties must breathe in and out.

Hammer them. They too will hammer you. Let the Eagle hammer, let the vulture also hammer. Cheers


You blow the sand to the wind and the wind blows it back at you - William Blake.

TheSuperNerd:
You really are wasting your time with me. Talk to those who deserve your lectures not me. What I see here is just you being diplomatic as always with the truth. Coating it back and forth. So cheers to you too on your path. I have been on this path in various threads before you showed up and I am still on that path.... so don't expect me to hit positive notes your way.
I am a very straightforward person with the truth.... hit on our young players and label them as trash... and I assure you that with time they will all suffer the same fate Goldfish80 suffered. They will only end up eating up themselves and exposing their true dark color... just like Goldfish80 did....

He used his own hands and typed...

"What that guy did to make you leave the thread initially was right. He was right to say all he said."

In other words, Goldfish80 said that PietroRico was right to insult my mom.... now if that is the kind of person you want me to go soft on... I am afraid you are very mistaken. Vipers must be exposed as such... Liars must be called what they are. He lied blatantly about Nacho's position in a game because he didn't wanna lose an argument... such a shame. That is the kind of men that hide behind masks of gentility only to be exposed when I stretch them to their limits. I am good at that... so let Goldfish be an example to them because Malicious negativity against our young stars won't be tolerate by guys like me. Ciao...

Where we stand in this is only a reflection of the kinds of people we all are in real life... and I sure damn know that the way a mam handled truth is what defines him most.

This Hammer of truth is here to stay... and no one hits harder than Truth.

TheGoodJoe:

If experience promises quality, a lot of Championship players would have been the toast for top clubs. There is a reason why a player like Iheanacho with little to no experience in senior football could set the EPL on fire and do the same in the national team.

Hard work, exposure and talent.

Leicester City have quality players but it is clear Puel does not have the system to make them excel. Even with playing time, he can not raise the quality of those players in a short time.

Look at the art Pellegrini created with Yaya Toure. Give him Ndidi and you will see wonders in a short time. Not long playing time. It takes positional placement of players, improved roles and a more intense environment to spark the players.

You can praise the regular time but the impact comes from other factors.

Danielnino00:
TheSuperNerd, bikonu send me d link to d female national team thread

TheSuperNerd:
Here you go Sir Dan....

https://www.nairaland.com/3400356/nigeria-female-national-teams-thread/11#61290059

TheGoodJoe:

Apart from Morata's finishing challenge, his footballing knowledge and playing style is off the chain. He is a well educated footballer in the game. If he sorts his finishing out, he would be lethal.

Saying Morata is a player that does not like challenge is totally off tangent. We are talking of a guy who has been down the pecking order in Real Madrid and Juventus. Working hard and patiently waiting for his turn.

There was no need joining Spurs when he had an offer to play in Chelsea. Come on, Chelsea is a bigger brand. Coupled with the fact he was to work with Conte, a coach he trained and worked with at Juventus.

Mujtahida:
Confirm receipt

LieDetector:
adducing Toure's success to pellegrini is fallacious. Ndidi has become a force to be reckoned with in central midfield. This isn't the doing of Ranieri neither is it the doing of Shakespare. The pellegrini you talk about could not improve Nacho's first touch. It's not a coincidence Ndidi has improved massively under Puel. It's also no coincidence that Nacho's first touch has equally improved. He should improve other areas of his game thats the bottomline of my argument Sire.

LieDetector:
Oga, being down the pecking order is as a result of a player's inability to adapt to the coach's philosphy. Though Benzema and Llorente were at the peak of their football career at Madrid and Juve respectively, it never made them insurmountable. A good striker would walk into any of those teams then and cement a starting berth. If Morata was good, he wouldn't be down the pecking order. As for Nacho, I'll base my judgement of him being good on the premise of the number of games he starts

LieDetector:
Oga, being down the pecking order is as a result of a player's inability to adapt to the coach's philosphy. Though Benzema and Llorente were at the peak of their football career at Madrid and Juve respectively, it never made them insurmountable. A good striker would walk into any of those teams then and cement a starting berth. If Morata was good, he wouldn't be down the pecking order. As for Nacho, I'll base my judgement of him being good on the premise of the number of games he starts

TheGoodJoe:
Come on Bro. No need going back to the past or name dropping. Let us let the past stay where it belongs. The past. Okay?

safarigirl:
Please, when is DePortivo playing? Live scores initially had the time at 23:00, now it's 4:00

Modified:

Okay, it's Monday by 8/9

TheGoodJoe:
“He is an excellent player," said Pellegrini."But if he adds goals from free-kicks - and last Sunday he scored again - for him it is very important to score goals."He is a player who can always improve, and Yaya is trying to do it.“We are always practising free-kicks. Yaya stays normally, kicking the ball after we finish the daily work."He is really in a good moment. It is not normal, that someone always scores from free-kicks.

That is from Pellegrini talking about him working with Yaya Toure on free kicks after training. Yaya was a good player under Mancini but after working with Pellegrini, he became one of the best players in the world.

Ndidi has the potential to do more than tackles and recovery. Under a coach like Pellegrini and in an offensive system, he will achieve more.

tbaba1234:
Francis will not be on the team.. He trained with the first team this week though.

LieDetector:
while you make suppositions about Ndidi becoming a beast under pellegrini, it will be diligent to acknwledge Puel's work so far. Ndidi now makes defense splitting passes, has the ability to break up play and quickly surge forward for counter attacks, his goal to game ratio is quite impressive considering he's mostly deployed in the defensive midfield position. Bro. Puel isn't bad and negative the way you paint him

LieDetector:
while you make suppositions about Ndidi becoming a beast under pellegrini, it will be diligent to acknwledge Puel's work so far. Ndidi now makes defense splitting passes, has the ability to break up play and quickly surge forward for counter attacks, his goal to game ratio is quite impressive considering he's mostly deployed in the defensive midfield position. Bro. Puel isn't bad and negative the way you paint him

Danielnino00:
Éseun sir




But the thread is quite dull though...

Joebie:
I totally agree. I hate tags or classifications that treat people in a condescending way. Some people may not be good at expressing themselves but are full of wisdom and highly intelligent. I’m talking from first hand experience.

TheGoodJoe:
Na wa.

Morata worked in the academy with Zidane. So the talk of not adapting to philosophy does not add up.

Zidane prefers Benzema, not Morata not adapting to the philosophy. Benzema is a big name and a top quality player. Morata stayed and battled for a place in the team. So that defeats your opinion that he is scared of challenges.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:

I did not play down Puel's work. I said his negative style inhibits Ndidi and other players from reaching top Heights. Ndidi can do more from controlling the midfield, dictating play, spread cross field passes, make dashing runs and release thunderbolts from his feet on a more regular basis.

In a more offensive and creative style of play, Ndidi will grow at a faster rate.

tbaba1234:
Classy goals and assist by Awoniyi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gTh70GkxzY

LieDetector:
And I never agreed to Puel being Negative. Mancity isn't a team you play on the offensive if you do not trust your attackers. Conte and Mourinho come to mind. Prior to Leicester's game against Man city, they've been on a good streak of results. Ndidi's domineering performance at stamford brigde epitomises Puel's tactical masterclass. Watch that game again and purge youself of Puel's negativism rhetorics

LieDetector:
Zidane can not just prefer benzema if Morata was that good. You mentioned earlier Morata's flaw being his finishing ability. As a striker you don't need 6 chances to be given to you before you bury one. Zidane must have been fade up with Morata's inability to bury chances. Reason why he never cemented a starting berth at Madrid. I would prefer the inconsistent Benzema over Morata if I were zidane. What zidane did is justifiable(preferring benzema over M'rata). If Morata had stayed back to develop his finishing ability, you think Madrid would have agreed to sell him to chelsea?

TheGoodJoe:

It is better to lose embarrassingly in the final and walk away with the silver medal. The CHAN Super Eagles of 2018 will be remembered for coming second.

TheSuperNerd:
Sir TheGoodJoe, My honorable Sir, the past is past but elements of it still shapes the future and the present....

I had to mention it because it seems Mujtahida forgets that the hammer of truth is more powerful than the silly hammers of Anti-truth on the matter of our young players. How many times have I been hit back at on this thread yet I still stand tall...

He said they will hit back as if he doesn't know they have been doing it for how long now yet it has no single effect... it has all failed. All hits were as lame as the hammers they wielded. Truth is always stronger.


The only time things went out of line was when someone cowardly called out my Mom... Something even Egbon Forgiveness will never do no matter how deeply engrossed in arguments with you he is. And I recall telling some who came to meet me on my other little thread that I know certain monikers smiled when that happened...

Lo and behold, a moment just had to come... a moment to vindicate my statement made out of certain observation... and Goldfish80 exposed himself as one of those monikers... he cannot hide it anymore. That is just who he is.

It takes a mind that is deeply psychological to knock off the walls of pretense some monikers wear here... That is what happened to Goldfish.


So in the end... I am just a deeply passionate and nerdy guy who loves Nigerian football and does so without any ulterior motives or hate towards/bias against any one player in the green and white. I love and have followed Nigerian football from different angles and I have studied the generations of the team......

When I walked into NL Sports in 2015 after SL10.ng closed down, I didnt know my moniker was already noticed there and followed here by a few... I came in here with a song on the possible rise of another grand golden generation and in every such generation there are major players and Star acts key to the exploits and growth of that generation... and this is what I am out to protect in letters and words... we cannot be having people come here and get battered by the strong wind of half-truths and heavy pessimism and then expect not to have a war to ensure that truth gets out there and is not swallowed by the negative atmosphere.

We have what I call subtle enemies of Nigerian football here who we must contend with to ensure that our message on Nigerian football is not choked up or killed away.

When a lie is repeated times without number, it will become truth to many soon. Hitler did this and it worked.

When nonsense is being uttered and no one can challenge that because they want to have peace... I wonder what kind of peace they are after while the truth suffers to have a voice bearer.

I am here to propagate the Good news of Nigerian football and to show that indeed a new golden generation is rising and we must keep fanning that flame with positive views and not predominant negative views taking the so called disguise called "Constructive criticism".

This is what the clashes on this thread is mainly about... nothing more. Every other thing said is just a cover -up.

So the past will stay buried but its lessons still have impact for today. It is well.

TheSuperNerd:
You really are wasting your time with me. Talk to those who deserve your lectures not me. What I see here is just you being diplomatic as always with the truth. Coating it back and forth. So cheers to you too on your path. I have been on this path in various threads before you showed up and I am still on that path.... so don't expect me to hit positive notes your way.
I am a very straightforward person with the truth.... hit on our young players and label them as trash... and I assure you that with time they will all suffer the same fate Goldfish80 suffered. They will only end up eating up themselves and exposing their true dark color... just like Goldfish80 did....

He used his own hands and typed...

"What that guy did to make you leave the thread initially was right. He was right to say all he said."

In other words, Goldfish80 said that PietroRico was right to insult my mom.... now if that is the kind of person you want me to go soft on... I am afraid you are very mistaken. Vipers must be exposed as such... Liars must be called what they are. He lied blatantly about Nacho's position in a game because he didn't wanna lose an argument... such a shame. That is the kind of men that hide behind masks of gentility only to be exposed when I stretch them to their limits. I am good at that... so let Goldfish be an example to them because Malicious negativity against our young stars won't be tolerate by guys like me. Ciao...

Where we stand in this is only a reflection of the kinds of people we all are in real life... and I sure damn know that the way a mam handled truth is what defines him most.

This Hammer of truth is here to stay... and no one hits harder than Truth.

TheSuperNerd:
Sir TheGoodJoe, My honorable Sir, the past is past but elements of it still shapes the future and the present....

I had to mention it because it seems Mujtahida forgets that the hammer of truth is more powerful than the silly hammers of Anti-truth on the matter of our young players. How many times have I been hit back at on this thread yet I still stand tall...

He said they will hit back as if he doesn't know they have been doing it for how long now yet it has no single effect... it has all failed. All hits were as lame as the hammers they wielded. Truth is always stronger.


The only time things went out of line was when someone cowardly called out my Mom... Something even Egbon Forgiveness will never do no matter how deeply engrossed in arguments with you he is. And I recall telling some who came to meet me on my other little thread that I know certain monikers smiled when that happened...

Lo and behold, a moment just had to come... a moment to vindicate my statement made out of certain observation... and Goldfish80 exposed himself as one of those monikers... he cannot hide it anymore. That is just who he is.

It takes a mind that is deeply psychological to knock off the walls of pretense some monikers wear here... That is what happened to Goldfish.


So in the end... I am just a deeply passionate and nerdy guy who loves Nigerian football and does so without any ulterior motives or hate towards/bias against any one player in the green and white. I love and have followed Nigerian football from different angles and I have studied the generations of the team......

When I walked into NL Sports in 2015 after SL10.ng closed down, I didnt know my moniker was already noticed there and followed here by a few... I came in here with a song on the possible rise of another grand golden generation and in every such generation there are major players and Star acts key to the exploits and growth of that generation... and this is what I am out to protect in letters and words... we cannot be having people come here and get battered by the strong wind of half-truths and heavy pessimism and then expect not to have a war to ensure that truth gets out there and is not swallowed by the negative atmosphere.

We have what I call subtle enemies of Nigerian football here who we must contend with to ensure that our message on Nigerian football is not choked up or killed away.

When a lie is repeated times without number, it will become truth to many soon. Hitler did this and it worked.

When nonsense is being uttered and no one can challenge that because they want to have peace... I wonder what kind of peace they are after while the truth suffers to have a voice bearer.

I am here to propagate the Good news of Nigerian football and to show that indeed a new golden generation is rising and we must keep fanning that flame with positive views and not predominant negative views taking the so called disguise called "Constructive criticism".

This is what the clashes on this thread is mainly about... nothing more. Every other thing said is just a cover -up.

So the past will stay buried but its lessons still have impact for today. It is well.