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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 9:18pm On Feb 11, 2018
Rubbiish:

@bold i thought roof beam are only for external walls?
Do they also go round internal walls?
The pics posted by Egunmogaji say its all. Your roof beam is suppose to be a replica of your floor beam. The importance is to make your roof load transferred to the foundation via structural members. Thereby making the block work to serve as partitioning member only.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:19pm On Feb 11, 2018
ceelog:


Thanks Chekitaut. The lower floor was chained and the foundation was grade beam. Will cracking still affect the upper floor even if I end up ditching the lintel but doing a roof beam (for parapet)?
Haba no need again you have a solid footing already.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:26pm On Feb 11, 2018
Aventures:
The pics posted by Egunmogaji say its all. Your roof beam is suppose to be a replica of your floor beam. The importance is to make your roof load transferred to the foundation via structural members. Thereby making the block work to serve as partitioning member only.
Thanks sir
Guess most people limit it to external walls because of finance.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:29pm On Feb 11, 2018
Aventures:
Columns is optional in bungalow except for the aesthetic columns. But in a water Log area it is essential. From Experience over time I discovered that just few columns externally around bungalow built on clay formation (so called firm ground) is advantageous. Clay has anomalous behavior I:e during raining season it expands and when the dry seasons comes it shrinks(that is why when you fill your foundation with laterite and leave if for a while you will see some crack lines all over) this behavior sometimes responsible for perennial cracks in some build. So I advice if anyone can afford it put a capping beam at fdn level, put columns externally and chain your lintel, that makes your bungalow a little framed structure that can restrict the effect of clay behavior. Better soup na money kill am.
Sir If one should do a capping beam, chain lintel & roof beam for a bungalow, that no be overkill so?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:50pm On Feb 11, 2018
Wow!
this topic is really interesting,painful to me. I've not been able to fully follow the discussion than to login post and go.
thanks for all contributions,the purpose of this group is getting accomplished

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexy(m): 9:52pm On Feb 11, 2018
EgunMogaji:
Thailand Bungalow, they use this brick that can be cut with a saw. Does anyone know the material? I like how they don't rely on the partition for strength but columns.

In German, it is called "poren Beton" (porous concrete blocks) and the best brand is YTONG. I did post about it some years back on one of Spyder's projects. It's very light but has almost the strength of Concrete. During the production process, Aluminium Oxide is added with reacts to create the pores, You can read up on it. Some residential homes in Germany are constructed using the blocks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:55pm On Feb 11, 2018
chidexy:


In German, it is called "poren Beton" (porous concrete blocks) and the best brand is YTONG. I did post about it some years back on one of Spyder's projects. It's very light but has almost the strength of Concrete

Thanks, and I'm off to the races now that I have a name.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 10:29pm On Feb 11, 2018
Rubbiish:

There are some areas where getting water is a big problem, no matter the depth of drilling. Like a town visited in Edo. U can hardly get a functional borehole. What is the cause & possible solution to such sir?

I don't think there's any solution to that. There's just no water.

Where I stayed in Abia, we didn't have water too so the village people construct underground water bunkers that save water during the rainy season and it lasts them all through the dry season.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 10:41pm On Feb 11, 2018
tobbyboy2011:
Foundation has been completed for the 6 Flats of 2bedroom. A storey building with 3 flats on each floor
2,160,000.00 Actually completed the foundation and I paid him 200,000.

Total cost of the foundation is 2,360,000
Location: Ibadan.

Hope the price is reasonable??


Yes it is.

I just think you should have added wire mesh to your foundation since the span is quite much and you're doing a storey building. Would have cost you less than 150,000. It's very good to prevent cracking.

Somnething like this..

Also, your starter columns are too too short. It should have Minimum of 600mm lap length.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:00pm On Feb 11, 2018
tolha:
hello house, plese few questions to ask

breakdown of A5 bedrooms flat in nigeria Abeokuta.
what are the needs after the land is already available?
materials detail in full and the amount from the beginig till the lintel or roofing
thanks so much.

This is a Bill of Quantities you're requesting for. It's a document you have to pay for.. but then..

You need to first have an architectural drawing before you can start anything.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 11:29pm On Feb 11, 2018
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KolaShangOne:



Yes it is.

I just think you should have added wire mesh to your foundation since the span is quite much and you're doing a storey building. Would have cost you less than 150,000. It's very good to prevent cracking.

Somnething like this..

Also, your starter columns are too too short. It should have Minimum of 600mm lap length.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by pianolover: 11:56pm On Feb 11, 2018

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:29am On Feb 12, 2018
chidexy:

In German, it is called "poren Beton" (porous concrete blocks) and the best brand is YTONG. I did post about it some years back on one of Spyder's projects. It's very light but has almost the strength of Concrete. During the production process, Aluminium Oxide is added with reacts to create the pores, You can read up on it. Some residential homes in Germany are constructed using the blocks

Is cement/sand use to join this foam blocks? I don't see any. Thx.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:36am On Feb 12, 2018
mufutau55:


Is cement/sand use to join this foam blocks? I don't see any. Thx.

Hajji M.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmZbSRQ6F4
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexy(m): 12:45am On Feb 12, 2018
mufutau55:


Is cement/sand use to join this foam blocks? I don't see any. Thx.

Hajji M.

Hahahahaha, Otunba Hajj, that's no foam blocks ooo. The cement used is applied very thinly, but very strong. See attached pictures. Besides, the blocks have matching (mirrored) grooves, which allows for perfect fitting

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:33am On Feb 12, 2018
chidexy:

Hahahahaha, Otunba Hajj, that's no foam blocks ooo. The cement used is applied very thinly, but very strong.
See attached pictures. Besides, the blocks have matching (mirrored) grooves, which allows for perfect fitting

Thank you very much. The video and pics explained it in details.
I wish we can have all this materials in Nigeria o. See how easy the decking work was.
Blocks being cut like bread with no waste or broken pieces discarded.
God save us in Nigeria. This is good materials. Thanks.

@EgunMogaji - Thanks for the useful video.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:05am On Feb 12, 2018
ceelog:


On the two occasions I ordered for granite from Okigwe (Uturu precisely), on arrival my Engr and casters confirmed it was full load (27tonnes as requested). No complains since then. Paid 50k for tport. #GoodEnoughForMe

I think you misunderstood me.
Everyone knows the price per ton of it. Just factor in everything and the topping goes to the supplier.
The only areas I know where 270k is quoted for 30tons are Rivers State and Bayelsa.

I would very much like to know which other areas goes for that price within the East or West.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:20am On Feb 12, 2018
InvertedHammer:


Evidently it boils down to greed. N4000/ton x 30 == N120k.
Add N50k for transportation. It becomes N170k which is close to price in the North and SW. But the suppliers want N270k. Difference of N100k (not including yoshi). The level of greed I witnessed in the SE is preposterous. To get things right, you just have to do it yourself.

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Good day Sir
When you say price close to the North, please what's the price up North?
I have bought 10 tyres tipper fully loaded in Keffi-Nassarawa State for no more than 80k and can't remember the price for same in Makurdi-Benue State but the difference between both is not far fetched.

And I know the quantity difference between the 10 and 16 tyre trucks is between 8-10 tons and that varies from truck to truck given the size of bucket(s) for trucks and expected quantity to carry.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kelecie: 2:22am On Feb 12, 2018
EgunMogaji:



A plot of land located in a choice area of porth Harcourt up for sale asking price 3.6million



Call 07037285562 for details *price negotiable *






Well not so fast.

Some of us toy with the idea of having multiple wife's.

I might need the groups advice on designing a house that will fit my future 3 wives. Something that we're all under the same roof but still provides individual privacy besides in most families the wife's are the Chief Accountants grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:24am On Feb 12, 2018
oyb:


proper compaction /sandfilling with suitable material/ providing a hardcore base is what is required to prevent settlement

I do not think doing that will prevent settlement entirely.
Every soil type comes with a recommended foundation type which also depends on the structure to be constructed.
Doing your foundation/footing appropriately is paramount to the existence of your build given the right type and use of construction materials.
Bottom to top and vice versa, walls run on the foundation lines except in instances where partial walls are done.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:33am On Feb 12, 2018
Ralphdan:


Hi sir where do you base would like to work with you on something

I am based in Enugu. Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by readtech(m): 7:39am On Feb 12, 2018
Rubbiish:

There are some areas where getting water is a big problem, no matter the depth of drilling. Like a town visited in Edo. U can hardly get a functional borehole. What is the cause & possible solution to such sir?

Yes it may look impossible but it is possible, i know of some areas in Edo State where getting underground water seems impossible and this only happens I'm sedimentary aspects of Edo State with thick Sandstone ; Area like Ekpoma - Iruekpe - Benin axis, Fuga Agenebode axis to mention few.

The reason why they don't have water is that Sandstone Is Poros and not permeable ; water can pass through it but cant store water. The water that pass through it can only be trapped if the sand has a bottom seal such as clay, shale, nonfractured bedrock, etc.

This problem is solvable if the driller can drill to end of the sandstone, and terminate at the beginning of the layer(shale or clay) below the sandstone. But this is great task and would incure a lot of money

If a thorough survey can be conducted to map the end of this Sandstone, and you follow the recommendation of the survey report, u would definitely get water.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 8:02am On Feb 12, 2018
EgunMogaji:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmZbSRQ6F4

Egun,

I watched the video and was quite revealing , I don't see reason why such technology cannot be deployed in the country to solve the housing gaps buy the local , state and federal government with different houses plans to accommodate all strata of people of the society

This benefits of this video after watching are numerous ,below are a few

1.Time savings in delivery time
2. No wastages (Agile management )
3.Huge cost savings at the long run based on economy of scale
4. Quality assurance
5.Elimination of middle men in the chain of supply

The list can go on and on, how I wish One can introduce this building style inhe country for personal estate development.

Many thanks for your contribution the property section
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 9:06am On Feb 12, 2018
Flaghouse1:


Egun,

I watched the video and was quite revealing , I don't see reason why such technology cannot be deployed in the country to solve the housing gaps buy the local , state and federal government with different houses plans to accommodate all strata of people of the society

This benefits of this video after watching are numerous ,below are a few

1.Time savings in delivery time
2. No wastages (Agile management )
3.Huge cost savings at the long run based on economy of scale
4. Quality assurance
5.Elimination of middle men in the chain of supply

The list can go on and on, how I wish One can introduce this building style inhe country for personal estate development.

Many thanks for your contribution the property section

We don't have it in Nigeria bc we learn one thing and stick with it with little room to think outside the box until oyibo folks come with new innovations. Our libraries and educational curricula are still based off of 1980's materials.
You can tell what era a house was built in Nigeria by mere looks. One person builds a particular style, every builder/designer follows and runs with it until it is played out. I am not a big fan of herd mentality--a contrarian and a dissenter to the core.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 10:12am On Feb 12, 2018
InvertedHammer:


We don't have it in Nigeria bc we learn one thing and stick with it with little room to think outside the box until oyibo folks come with new innovations. Our libraries and educational curricula are still based off of 1980's materials.
You can tell what era a house was built in Nigeria by mere looks. One person builds a particular style, every builder/designer follows and runs with it until it is played out. I am not a big fan of herd mentality--a contrarian and a dissenter to the core.
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Thinking outside the box has being a philosophy/culture in our daily lives since the early 2000's, how far have we faired as a nation, people in "thinking beside the box"we stick to one pattern and once it wanes out we adopt the next available style,

We should be able to probe more on processes and see how we can improve on them

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by D1O(m): 10:59am On Feb 12, 2018
InvertedHammer:
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Lintels are made to cover space (doors, windows, openings) to be able to bear load on top. Anything else is just fantasy and waste of resources.
Some builders do all round concrete works at lintel level, then add two levels of blocks and do the decking. Seriously? That design does not add anything to the structural integrity of the building. Buildings built the old way still stands 60 years after. So what changed? Overkill indeed.

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Does it not make it easier, should the need arise in the future, to relocate doors/windows if needed or if circumstances demand so?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrinceLat(m): 11:14am On Feb 12, 2018
Chekitaut:
Sooner or later ChEkItAuT will not supply but only render Haulage services, book the truck take it to Quarry yourself scale in scale out load and follow the truck to offload point. my client will be happy me too will be glad, putting smile on your face.

I want to get granite from you, i know a 911 (alleged 10 ton) truck driver, suppose i can convince him to come and load from you to my site, what will it cost me or what are the procedures involved, thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 12:13pm On Feb 12, 2018
D1O:


Does it not make it easier, should the need arise in the future, to relocate doors/windows if needed or if circumstances demand so?

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What are the odds?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexy(m): 1:11pm On Feb 12, 2018
Flaghouse1:


Egun,

I watched the video and was quite revealing , I don't see reason why such technology cannot be deployed in the country to solve the housing gaps buy the local , state and federal government with different houses plans to accommodate all strata of people of the society

This benefits of this video after watching are numerous ,below are a few

1.Time savings in delivery time
2. No wastages (Agile management )
3.Huge cost savings at the long run based on economy of scale
4. Quality assurance
5.Elimination of middle men in the chain of supply

The list can go on and on, how I wish One can introduce this building style inhe country for personal estate development.

Many thanks for your contribution the property section
Look for the production video and watch. The original videos are in German and that will tell you the reason why it might not work for us here, unless we are talking about massive importation of the blocks (estimated 40ft container per house as can be seen from the delivery truck on the video attached by Chief EgunMogaji, the quantity required to finish a house )
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:55pm On Feb 12, 2018
chidexy:

Look for the production video and watch. The original videos are in German and that will tell you the reason why it might not work for us here, unless we are talking about massive importation of the blocks (estimated 40ft container per house as can be seen from the delivery truck on the video attached by Chief EgunMogaji, the quantity required to finish a house )

We would have failed if we have to import the blocks.

It’s not a patented system and can be replicated locally.

I’m doing ongoing research on this and have already found individuals that make up their own blocks.

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