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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:19am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Sir TheGoodJoe, My honorable Sir, the past is past but elements of it still shapes the future and the present....

I had to mention it because it seems Mujtahida forgets that the hammer of truth is more powerful than the silly hammers of Anti-truth on the matter of our young players. How many times have I been hit back at on this thread yet I still stand tall... wink

He said they will hit back as if he doesn't know they have been doing it for how long now yet it has no single effect... it has all failed. All hits were as lame as the hammers they wielded. Truth is always stronger.


The only time things went out of line was when someone cowardly called out my Mom... Something even Egbon Forgiveness will never do no matter how deeply engrossed in arguments with you he is. And I recall telling some who came to meet me on my other little thread that I know certain monikers smiled when that happened...

Lo and behold, a moment just had to come... a moment to vindicate my statement made out of certain observation... and Goldfish80 exposed himself as one of those monikers... he cannot hide it anymore. That is just who he is.

It takes a mind that is deeply psychological to knock off the walls of pretense some monikers wear here... That is what happened to Goldfish.


So in the end... I am just a deeply passionate and nerdy guy who loves Nigerian football and does so without any ulterior motives or hate towards/bias against any one player in the green and white. I love and have followed Nigerian football from different angles and I have studied the generations of the team......

When I walked into NL Sports in 2015 after SL10.ng closed down, I didnt know my moniker was already noticed there and followed here by a few... I came in here with a song on the possible rise of another grand golden generation and in every such generation there are major players and Star acts key to the exploits and growth of that generation... and this is what I am out to protect in letters and words... we cannot be having people come here and get battered by the strong wind of half-truths and heavy pessimism and then expect not to have a war to ensure that truth gets out there and is not swallowed by the negative atmosphere.

We have what I call subtle enemies of Nigerian football here who we must contend with to ensure that our message on Nigerian football is not choked up or killed away.

When a lie is repeated times without number, it will become truth to many soon. Hitler did this and it worked.

When nonsense is being uttered and no one can challenge that because they want to have peace... I wonder what kind of peace they are after while the truth suffers to have a voice bearer.

I am here to propagate the Good news of Nigerian football and to show that indeed a new golden generation is rising and we must keep fanning that flame with positive views and not predominant negative views taking the so called disguise called "Constructive criticism".

This is what the clashes on this thread is mainly about... nothing more. Every other thing said is just a cover -up.

So the past will stay buried but its lessons still have impact for today. It is well.





What is this one talking?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:21am On Feb 12, 2018
Mujtahida:

Truth is not the exclusive preserve of anybody not even you. It's even often a matter of perception. Hammer them with the truth. Sure I very much like that. But I know that they too have the freedom to hammer back. After all ko.mekn and for.giveness believe ever so passionately that they are speaking the truth yet they've been attacked the most on this thread. One truth against another truth. Hammer against hammer. It's fair to me. My point is this: it does not lie in the mouth of anyone to shut others down not even in the name of the truth. At least this is a public forum created specifically for debates, discussion and exchange of ideas.

Glass of water on the table. The optimist sees it as half full, the pessimist sees it as half empty. Both views are fact, both views are the truth. Perception is reality.

I have absolutely no objections to the truth. BUT I take a very strong objection to shutting people down. I take strong objection to insults, disparaging talk, to disrespect.
Mujtahida this should be your last response cos you and TheSuperNerd really surprised me.

I thought two of you are one of the most intelligents posters here but really disappointed cos least expected of you to continue in round hole discussion.

Pls leave Iheanacho issue with the two camps to sort it out,enough and let's talk football cos world cup is approaching.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 7:24am On Feb 12, 2018
LieDetector:
Development works in tandem with competition bro. This same Puel developed some players who have come to become established stars. Guadiola has a good antecedent of developing young stars. If Nacho should leave Leicester, there's no guarantee another young prodigy would not emerge to give him a run for his money. Exactly what Diabate is doing at Leicester. His ability to displace an existing player and/or maintain a certain position exemplifies his class
what are you even saying? Just because puel decided to start diabate doesn’t mean he displaced anybody. Coach can decide to start a particular player for tactical reason. Are you trying to say diabate displayed nacho or Mahred Cos he started just one game ahead of them? Same way some people was yabbing dust on how Zapacosta finna bench Moses Cos he managed to scored against Qarasbag. When nacho was tearing net in fa cup with his heavenly left foot, you nor talk anything o.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:26am On Feb 12, 2018
goldfish80:


What is this one talking?
Oga goldfish80,pls i beg let's move on and forget the whole thing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:40am On Feb 12, 2018
kellycute:
what are you even saying? Just because puel decided to start diabate doesn’t mean he displaced anybody. Coach can decide to start a particular player for tactical reason. Are you trying to say diabate displayed nacho or Mahred Cos he started just one game ahead of them? Same way some people was yabbing dust on how Zapacosta finna bench Moses Cos he managed to scored against Qarasbag. When nacho was tearing net in fa cup with his heavenly left foot, you nor talk anything o.
Kelly man have you read the comments between liedetector and thegoodjoe on Iheanacho and Diabate on Man city vs Leicester match.

If you have not pls do so,i believe it would give you a platform to address liedetector especially on some point raised by him cos thegoodjoe was able to have great discussion on it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:41am On Feb 12, 2018

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:49am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
You really are wasting your time with me. Talk to those who deserve your lectures not me. What I see here is just you being diplomatic as always with the truth. Coating it back and forth. So cheers to you too on your path. I have been on this path in various threads before you showed up and I am still on that path.... so don't expect me to hit positive notes your way.
I am a very straightforward person with the truth.... hit on our young players and label them as trash... and I assure you that with time they will all suffer the same fate Goldfish80 suffered. They will only end up eating up themselves and exposing their true dark color... just like Goldfish80 did....smiley

He used his own hands and typed...

"What that guy did to make you leave the thread initially was right. He was right to say all he said."

In other words, Goldfish80 said that PietroRico was right to insult my mom.... now if that is the kind of person you want me to go soft on... I am afraid you are very mistaken. Vipers must be exposed as such... Liars must be called what they are. smiley He lied blatantly about Nacho's position in a game because he didn't wanna lose an argument... such a shame. That is the kind of men that hide behind masks of gentility only to be exposed when I stretch them to their limits. I am good at that... so let Goldfish be an example to them because Malicious negativity against our young stars won't be tolerate by guys like me. Ciao... wink

Where we stand in this is only a reflection of the kinds of people we all are in real life... and I sure damn know that the way a mam handled truth is what defines him most.

This Hammer of truth is here to stay... and no one hits harder than Truth.



But initially in the heat of the moment, you said icon79 was right about me. I wouldn't know what he said but I imagine it wasn't something nice.
You got paid in your own coin and you absolutely loose your rag.
Better don't dish it out if you cant take it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:03am On Feb 12, 2018
Joebie:
Pls has Uduokhai finally agreed to play for Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:10am On Feb 12, 2018
Joebie:


Why omeruo? And not either Ogu, Agu, onazi or Agbo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:12am On Feb 12, 2018
It is not all you call it. How is it jealousy? Or even backbiting? How is it even hatred? All the terms you listed are so unrelated.


It is only that some of you here are so bloody afraid to say the truth. All you guys want is to move on without taking note of the fact that One of your so called elders showed how dark he is in supporting the insult to my mother and you take it lightly. If you cannot hit the hammer the way it should be hit. Then let me do it for you. Period


Kog45:
TheSuperNerd life is full of hatred,jealousy,backbiting etc and it takes wisdom to survive it and the only way to survive it is to overlook a lot of things and move ahead.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 8:13am On Feb 12, 2018
Joebie:
Lol what is Omeoruo doing in your lineup? Has Uduokhai declared for Nigeria? Moses cannot play WB for super eagles, Rohr wouldn't let that happen. Laughable fantasy lineup grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:16am On Feb 12, 2018
maidaboi:
and komekn see it as celebrated
So did I. But chose to look away.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 8:16am On Feb 12, 2018
Joebie:
abeg o, Wetin omeruo de do der.??... Normal or actual midfield players Don finish?... Pls explain sir cos Ayam nor undastanding shocked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:18am On Feb 12, 2018
Joebie:
This your line-up get as e be o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:20am On Feb 12, 2018
Loooolll.... Bla bla bla.... Icon79 said your have a problem with your personality as regards never wanting to feel wrong. He hinted also that you just don't know how to give in to your over-inflatwd ego. And yes, he also called you narcissistic. wink

He never insulted your mom or your dad or anyone close to you. He only spoke to you.

But you.... Hahahahahahahahaha.... You knew exactly what PietroRico did and said about my mother and you typed with your fingers that he is right to do and say what he did.

How really noble of you Goldfish... I guess the darkness in you was exposed afterall. smiley I knew you would come out to defend yourself... But what was said cannot be changed... It cannot be forgotten. So your serving in your coin talk is super lame and your only cop out to cover the tracks of your dark thoughts.



goldfish80:


But initially in the heat of the moment, you said icon79 was right about me. I wouldn't know what he said but I imagine it wasn't something nice.
You got paid in your own coin and you absolutely loose your rag.
Better don't dish it out if you cant take it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 8:24am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
It is not all you call it. How is it jealousy? Or even backbiting? How is it even hatred? All the terms you listed are so unrelated.


It is only that some of you here are so bloody afraid to say the truth. All you guys want is to move on without taking note of the fact that One of your so called elders showed how dark he is in supporting the insult to my mother and you take it lightly. If you cannot hit the hammer the way it should be hit. Then let me do it for you. Period. [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]Move on man... let the past go! i really do not appreciate your continuous hammering on your mum being insulted. how long does it take you to forgive? I think it's kinda childish when u do that.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:25am On Feb 12, 2018
What else do you expect from a guy who talks about respect for all here but will keep silent in the face of someone's mom being insulted. Smh....

Look... All of Mujtahida's lectures are so meaningless to me because if he cannot dish out lectures to folks who support the insult meted to my mom... One of them like Goldfish who lost his cool (he claimed he could not... Lol) and said Rico was right to say all he said about my mom.... Then he is only being hypocritical with his so called Respect philosophy.

This is why I don't buy his talk. He has not done what needed to be done to earn my true audience. Talking to me as if he is blind to all that happens here....


Kog45:
Mujtahida this should be your last response cos you and TheSuperNerd really surprised me.

I thought two of you are one of the most intelligents posters here but really disappointed cos least expected of you to continue in round hole discussion.

Pls leave Iheanacho issue with the two camps to sort it out,enough and let's talk football cos world cup is approaching.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:29am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
It is not all you call it. How is it jealousy? Or even backbiting? How is it even hatred? All the terms you listed are so unrelated.


It is only that some of you here are so bloody afraid to say the truth. All you guys want is to move on without taking note of the fact that One of your so called elders showed how dark he is in supporting the insult to my mother and you take it lightly. If you cannot hit the hammer the way it should be hit. Then let me do it for you. Period


I don't think at 45 years of age and my personality i should be afraid of anything talk less of faceless forum.

Pls you are free to do anything here but i believe we should have it cool here irrespective of differences.

It's your world so you are free.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:30am On Feb 12, 2018
It is not about forgiveness. It is about establishing the fact that some things will keep coming up unless it is bravely addressed.

You want me to move on without that being properly addressed.... Then when I stand up for our youngsters and the cowards now out of facts, will all run under the umbrella of Supernerd started the insults first, when they hit on my mom amd first attack my personality and I have to respond....

It is rather childish and silly of you guys keeping silent in the face of someone's mom being insulted and then someone even saying again months after it happened that the insult was actually right to have been given to her. How mature right? Smh


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:31am On Feb 12, 2018
DrKlever:
Lol what is Omeoruo doing in your lineup? Has Uduokhai declared for Nigeria? Moses cannot play WB for super eagles, Rohr wouldn't let that happen. Laughable fantasy lineup grin
Lovely observation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:33am On Feb 12, 2018
andrew444:
I just notice something about this thread that so many people hate iheanacho for no reason,but they are quick to praise others players who are not good enough,there was a guy even considering kayode olanrewaju for the World Cup list,maybe he think super eagles is the Somalia national team,a player that cannot make a girona team is not good enough for super eagles bench.



Everybody here knows why Kayode is not making the bench but you don't know anything..

Continue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:33am On Feb 12, 2018
We all have our differences... But such never extends to mother talk. If you refuse to address that matter specifically then it only means you are scared of something. I'm sorry but that is what it means.


Kog45:
I don't think at 45 years of age and my personality i should be afraid of anything talk less of faceless forum.

Pls you are free to do anything here but i believe we should have it cool here irrespective of differences.

It's your world so you are free.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:36am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Loooolll.... Bla bla bla.... Icon79 said your have a problem with your personality as regards never wanting to feel wrong. He hinted also that you just don't know how to give in to your over-inflatwd ego. And yes, he also called you narcissistic. wink

He never insulted your mom or your dad or anyone close to you. He only spoke to you.

But you.... Hahahahahahahahaha.... You knew exactly what PietroRico did and said about my mother and you typed with your fingers that he is right to do and say what he did.

How really noble of you Goldfish... I guess the darkness in you was exposed afterall. smiley I knew you would come out to defend yourself... But what was said cannot be changed... It cannot be forgotten. So your serving in your coin talk is super lame and your only cop out to cover the tracks of your dark thoughts.




You said someone was right about me, I said someone was equally right about you.
You thought I would let it slide when you hide behind someone else's comment to insult me? How wrong of you.
You got served.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:37am On Feb 12, 2018
Loooolll.... I know it is not for lack of quality. I really hoped that deal to Amiens had worked out though or his deal to some other club. It is okay Egbon... Kayode is still young and his time will come.



forgiveness:




Everybody here knows why Kayode is not making the bench but you don't know anything..

Continue.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:44am On Feb 12, 2018
No I didn't get served... You only exposed your true intents knowing fully well what he said... He insulted my mom... And you never said he was right about me... Again you do what you do best- twisting the truth by inches to cover your dirty tracks and real intents.

You said what Rico guy said and did to make me leave the thread for a while was right. What did he do exactly which no one spoke about then except Safari girl? He insulted my mom....

So you see that you shot yourself.... You showed that you loved when my mom was insulted... Nothing can hide that side of you. It is you who got served. smiley


goldfish80:


You said someone was right about me, I said someone was equally right about you.
You thought I would let it slide when you hide behind someone else's comment to insult me? How wrong of you.
You got served.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:46am On Feb 12, 2018
It was not for your comprehension. It is obviously lost on you. wink

goldfish80:


What is this one talking?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:49am On Feb 12, 2018
Icon4s:


So did I. But chose to look away.
i don't see anything celebrated there may be one day you too will have say 'people' celebrated okazaki injury here
Anyway i had that Nura was in beast mode again Rangers in Enugu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:52am On Feb 12, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
We all have our differences... But such never extends to mother talk. If you refuse to address that matter specifically then it only means you are scared of something. I'm sorry but that is what it means.


Address what?i thought your coming back to the thread has really settled the whole issues.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:56am On Feb 12, 2018
maidaboi:
i don't see anything celebrated there may be one day you too will have say 'people' celebrated okazaki injury here
Anyway i had that Nura was in beast mode again Rangers in Enugu
I really understand your point man not that you are celebrating Okazaki injury but you want our Nigeria boy to have the opportunity to show his stuff.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jobsat34(m): 9:00am On Feb 12, 2018
Seems Isaac Success is hitting a good note with Malaga CF
https://mobile.twitter.com/MalagaCF/status/958731992232849408
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:05am On Feb 12, 2018
Na so. I suppose it is truth when one paints a picture in its half form or rather sugar coated lie form and another brings it out in its full form and you tell me that you cannot tell the difference abi? So much for one who gives details on truth. Lol


Komekn comes out and will accuse our youngsters of being overage and talk down on their quality and he even said that Osimhen is warming thr bench and being left of of match day squads when the truth is that Osimhen was injured for a whole period of months and was not featuring in his first season at Wolfsburg. It took me and a few others to come up and tell him to stop turning blind eyes to the fact that Osimhen is injured... Guess what? Even after informing him of such, he still persisted in his "truth" of Osimhen being left out when it was so clear this Kid is injured and still recuperating....
I supposed that was "his truth" against mine right?

Also when Komekn said Osimhen had only played 10 mims of Bundesliga football and is thus not rated at Wolfsburg only for me to come up again and correct his lies by saying Osimhen had played 45mins + of Bundesliga football and it was mainly down to his injury and recovery period.... Gosh! Komekn's truth against Mine again right? I laugh really... You are just deliberately being blind to what truth is in this case by taking the route of the generalistic to please....


Even Egbon Forgiveness and I had to trash out a truth talk on Solanke and Iheanacho with facts from the 2015/2016 season... He didn't think Nacho had more goals in lesser time than Solanke... Facts and stats settled that... And we moved on from that and today we have a better understanding because he also knows better now how to go about some arguments here despite his passion to see certain players given a shot in the GWG. Some of his calls have paid off like Idowu, Ebuehi and Aina so far just to mention some. But on that Nacho/Solanke talk of 2015/2016... The truth won out.


So biko... Keep giving yourself a false sense of not knowing exactly what I talk about okay. What the pessimists hold here is not truth and can never be truth... Truth is owned by no one by it is also wielded by those who are brave enough to take it in its full form and wield it right without fear and without favoritism.

This is the path I choose on this thread .... And not a path for cheap likes or generalistic pleasing for all even in the face of obvious truth. Cheers on your path. wink



Mujtahida:

Truth is not the exclusive preserve of anybody not even you. It's even often a matter of perception. Hammer them with the truth. Sure I very much like that. But I know that they too have the freedom to hammer back. After all ko.mekn and for.giveness believe ever so passionately that they are speaking the truth yet they've been attacked the most on this thread. One truth against another truth. Hammer against hammer. It's fair to me. My point is this: it does not lie in the mouth of anyone to shut others down not even in the name of the truth. At least this is a public forum created specifically for debates, discussion and exchange of ideas.

Glass of water on the table. The optimist sees it as half full, the pessimist sees it as half empty. Both views are fact, both views are the truth. Perception is reality.

I have absolutely no objections to the truth. BUT I take a very strong objection to shutting people down. I take strong objection to insults, disparaging talk, to disrespect.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:17am On Feb 12, 2018
I didn't come back because it was settled. Afterall, Goldfish said Rico was right to insult my mom... Is that settled? I guess not... Has it been strongly addressed? Nope. Will it repeat itself? I bet it will if you guys wanna keep playing politics and sugar coated diplomacy here. Your choice and call.


I came back because I didn't wanna miss out on contributing to the drumbeats that will usher in our young generation of Super Eagles into a new golden era.... That is why this thread was born and I recall I named this thread alongside Sir Terzurum5..... The Vision of this generation goes deep. So I had to come ensure I see it through on my part. I told Chief Icon4s that I will come back only for that reason... And I kept my word.




Kog45:
Address what?i thought your coming back to the thread has really settled the whole issues.

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