blessedmeme:
Thanks alot for the enlightenment, I was wrong before thanks ones again

Just a Catholic doctrine with no Christian foundation.

Nothing ash in any Wednesday.
Jesus never practice it nor His Apostles.

Show me one scriptural references on Ash Wednesday then I will turn a Roman Catholic.

sandrahnaub:
Ash Wednesday, a day of fasting, is the first day of Lent in Western Christianity. It occurs 46 days (40 fasting days, if the six Sundays, which are not days of fast, are excluded) before Easter and can fall as early as February 4 or as late as March 10. Ash Wednesday is observed by many Western Christians

Why do we put ash on our for head?

Ash Wednesday derives its name from the practice of blessing ashes made from palm branches blessed on the previous year's Palm Sunday, and placing them on the heads of participants to the accompaniment of the words "Repent, and believe in the Gospel"

What is the significance of the ashes on the forehead on Ash Wednesday?

A: Wednesday is Ash Wednesday, the day many Christians mark as the first day of Lent, the time of reflection and penitence leading up to Easter Sunday. ... As they “impose” or “dispense” the ashes, the pastor or priest reminds each Christian of Genesis 3:19: “For dust you are and to dust you shall return.”

First, you can not eat meat on Ash Wednesday,


Why do crosses get drawn on peoples’ foreheads on Ash Wednesday?

Traditionally, ash is used to represent grief, so devout Christians will wear the cross on their head for the entire day to show their sorrow for Jesus’ crucifixion.

They also represent repentance and show that people have repented of their sins so that they can be prepared for a ‘Holy death’, like Jesus.

As priests draw the crosses on to people’s foreheads, they say: “Repent, and believe in the Gospel”.

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why cant i eat meat? So all my soup & stew will remain untouched today??

sandrahnaub:
Ash Wednesday, a day of fasting, is the first day of Lent in Western Christianity. It occurs 46 days (40 fasting days, if the six Sundays, which are not days of fast, are excluded) before Easter and can fall as early as February 4 or as late as March 10. Ash Wednesday is observed by many Western Christians

Why do we put ash on our for head?

Ash Wednesday derives its name from the practice of blessing ashes made from palm branches blessed on the previous year's Palm Sunday, and placing them on the heads of participants to the accompaniment of the words "Repent, and believe in the Gospel"

What is the significance of the ashes on the forehead on Ash Wednesday?

A: Wednesday is Ash Wednesday, the day many Christians mark as the first day of Lent, the time of reflection and penitence leading up to Easter Sunday. ... As they “impose” or “dispense” the ashes, the pastor or priest reminds each Christian of Genesis 3:19: “For dust you are and to dust you shall return.”

First, you can not eat meat on Ash Wednesday,


Why do crosses get drawn on peoples’ foreheads on Ash Wednesday?

Traditionally, ash is used to represent grief, so devout Christians will wear the cross on their head for the entire day to show their sorrow for Jesus’ crucifixion.

They also represent repentance and show that people have repented of their sins so that they can be prepared for a ‘Holy death’, like Jesus.

As priests draw the crosses on to people’s foreheads, they say: “Repent, and believe in the Gospel”.

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Seun
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why cant i eat meat? So all my soup & stew will remain untouched today?? Where is it written in the bible?

Secondly, the bible condemns going about with ashes on yr head matthew 6:16-18

ikorodureporta:



why cant i eat meat? So all my soup & stew will remain untouched today?? Where is it written in the bible?

Secondly, the bible condemns going about with ashes on yr head matthew 6:16-18

The passage you quoted is talking about ur appearance when u fast. That you should not look as thou are fasting. The passage didn't make any reference to ashes..Please correct that.

Geestunnar:

The passage you quoted is talking about ur appearance when u fast. That you should not look as thou are fasting. The passage didn't make any reference to ashes..Please correct that.

wht does 'disfigure' means, if not d ashes?

ikorodureporta:



why cant i eat meat? So all my soup & stew will remain untouched today?? Where is it written in the bible?

Secondly, the bible condemns going about with ashes on yr head matthew 6:16-18

u don't understand that passage at all.

Nice enlightenment. @ Op,in your last paragraph u said devout Christian will wear cross on their head as a sign of grief for the crucification of Jesus christ. Now my question is why showing grief when the same teaching of gospel tells us that Jesus died for our sins and so we are redeemed. We should be happy instead of showing grief.

12345baba:
u don't understand that passage at all.

na u no understand. Matt6v16...for they disfigure their faces...matt6v17...when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face...

ikorodureporta:


wht does 'disfigure' means, if not d ashes?

Ur countenance and appearance is what the passage u quoted is referring to, that people should not be able to tell that you are fasting. The reception of ashes signifies the beginning of fasting, so u positing that ashes on the forehead disfigures ur appearance is what is mind boggling.

12345baba:
u don't understand that passage at all.

Abi ooh

Geestunnar:

Ur countenance and appearance is what the passage u quoted is referring to, that people should not be able to tell that you are fasting. The reception of ashes signifies the beginning of fasting, so u positing that ashes on the forehead disfigures ur appearance is what is mind boggling.

matt6v17....anoint yr head & wash yr face!

ikorodureporta:



matt6v17....anoint yr head & wash yr face!

So this is the only thing u could pick from the passage. Didn't you see where I said the reception of ashes signifies the beginning of fasting or would u receive ashes all through the fasting period? I don't know if you are purposely avoiding the true meaning and intent of the passage you quoted.

Geestunnar:

So this is the only thing u could pick from the passage. Didn't you see where I said the reception of ashes signifies the beginning of fasting or would u receive ashes all through the fasting period? I don't know if you are purposely avoiding the true meaning and intent of the passage you quoted.

my point is....d bible cndemns going about with ashes...be it for the first day or all through. Why do you guyz walk around the streets with the ashes? U'r supposed to wipe it off. Dnt announce to all that you are fasting

Read through the OP's post with a mind devoid of prejudice and ruminate on it.

ikorodureporta:


my point is....d bible cndemns going about with ashes...be it for the first day or all through. Why do you guyz walk around the streets with the ashes? U'r supposed to wipe it off. Dnt announce to all that you are fasting

Emmyjah50:

Just a Catholic doctrine with no Christian foundation.

Nothing ash in any Wednesday.
Jesus never practice it nor His Apostles.

Show me one scriptural references on Ash Wednesday then I will turn a Roman Catholic.

There are many verses in the bible. Jesus even quoted
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Job 42:6
Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."

Esther 4:3
In each and every province where the command and decree of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing; and many lay on sackcloth and ashes.

Daniel 9:3
So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes.

Genesis 18:27
And Abraham replied, "Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes.

Ashes » Placed on the head as a sign of grief
Ezekiel 27:30

And they will make their voice heard over you And will cry bitterly They will cast dust on their heads, They will wallow in ashes.
Ashes » Repenting in
Job 42:6

Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."
Daniel 9:3

So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes.
Jonah 3:6

When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes.
Matthew 11:21

"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Luke 10:13

"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Ashes » Uses of, in purification
Hebrews 9:13

For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh,
Numbers 19:17

'Then for the unclean person they shall take some of the ashes of the burnt purification from sin and flowing water shall be added to them in a vessel.
Ashes » A symbol of mourning
[/b]2 Samuel 13:19

Tamar put ashes on her head and tore her long-sleeved garment which was on her; and she put her hand on her head and went away, crying aloud as she went.
Esther 4:1

When Mordecai learned all that had been done, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and ashes, and went out into the midst of the city and wailed loudly and bitterly.
Esther 4:3

In each and every province where the command and decree of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing; and many lay on sackcloth and ashes.
[b]Fire » Things connected with » Ashes
2 Peter 2:6

and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;
1 Kings 13:3

Then he gave a sign the same day, saying, "This is the sign which the LORD has spoken, 'Behold, the altar shall be split apart and the ashes which are on it shall be poured out.'"

Geestunnar:
Read through the OP's post with a mind devoid of prejudice and ruminate on it.

so i shld keep a blind eye on an error i spotted? We hav to do things in d right manner....& stop following d crowd

MosesAlex:


There are many verses in the bible. Jesus even quoted
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Job 42:6
Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."

Esther 4:3
In each and every province where the command and decree of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing; and many lay on sackcloth and ashes.

Daniel 9:3
So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes.

Genesis 18:27
And Abraham replied, "Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes.

[b]Ashes » Placed on the head as a sign of grief
[/b]Ezekiel 27:30

And they will make their voice heard over you And will cry bitterly They will cast dust on their heads, They will wallow in ashes.
[b]Ashes » Repenting in
[/b]Job 42:6

Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."
Daniel 9:3

So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes.
Jonah 3:6

When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes.
Matthew 11:21

"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Luke 10:13

"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
[b]Ashes » Uses of, in purification
[/b]Hebrews 9:13

For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh,
Numbers 19:17

'Then for the unclean person they shall take some of the ashes of the burnt purification from sin and flowing water shall be added to them in a vessel.
[b]Ashes » A symbol of mourning
[/b]2 Samuel 13:19

Tamar put ashes on her head and tore her long-sleeved garment which was on her; and she put her hand on her head and went away, crying aloud as she went.
Esther 4:1

When Mordecai learned all that had been done, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and ashes, and went out into the midst of the city and wailed loudly and bitterly.
Esther 4:3

In each and every province where the command and decree of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing; and many lay on sackcloth and ashes.
[b]Fire » Things connected with » Ashes
[/b]2 Peter 2:6

and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;
1 Kings 13:3

Then he gave a sign the same day, saying, "This is the sign which the LORD has spoken, 'Behold, the altar shall be split apart and the ashes which are on it shall be poured out.'"

All these are what Jesus came to correct in Matt6 v 16-18...

MosesAlex:


There are many verses in the bible. Jesus even quoted
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Job 42:6
Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."

Esther 4:3
In each and every province where the command and decree of the king came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping and wailing; and many lay on sackcloth and ashes.

Daniel 9:3
So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes.

Genesis 18:27
And Abraham replied, "Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes.

The pagan origin of Ash Wednesday

I

It's not mentioned in the Bible. None of the apostles observed it. Nowhere are Christians commanded to keep it. It was not even officially practiced until nearly 1000 years after Christ's resurrection. Like so many other non-biblical “Christian” customs, it has pagan roots. It's a sad fact that modern Christianity has appropriated so many customs from the practice of the heathens, that one might wonder if it should still be called Christianity.

ikorodureporta:



so i shld keep a blind eye on an error i spotted? We hav to do things in d right manner....& stop following d crowd

OK

ikorodureporta:



All these are what Jesus came to correct in Matt6 v 16-18...

Did Jesus come to correct repentance?

Emmyjah50:


The pagan origin of Ash Wednesday

I

It's not mentioned in the Bible. None of the apostles observed it. Nowhere are Christians commanded to keep it. It was not even officially practiced until nearly 1000 years after Christ's resurrection. Like so many other non-biblical “Christian” customs, it has pagan roots. It's a sad fact that modern Christianity has appropriated so many customs from the practice of the heathens, that one might wonder if it should still be called Christianity.

Sometimes I wander if people take some moment to reflect independently.
What is wrong with repentance? It is only the devil that would not be happy that people are encouraged to repent from their sins. So to urged people to repent is a pagan practice? This reminds me of Jesus been accused of using the power of the devil to drive out devil. Those people were only instigated by the devil. Check well it may be the same instigating you.

MosesAlex:


Did Jesus come to correct repentance?

what i shared does not condemn repentance...verses before that even emphasized on repentance & forgiveness. Its only against showing the world that u'r fasting by putting on that Ash

ikorodureporta:


my point is....d bible cndemns going about with ashes...be it for the first day or all through. Why do you guyz walk around the streets with the ashes? U'r supposed to wipe it off. Dnt announce to all that you are fasting

the Bible doesn't condemn going about with ash, when a city proclaim repentance the Bible show they go about with ash


Ezekiel 27:30
And they will make their voice heard over you And will
cry bitterly They will cast dust on their heads, They will
wallow in ashes.
Ashes » Repenting in
Job 42:6
Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."
Daniel 9:3
So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by
prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and
ashes.
Jonah 3:6
When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose
from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered
himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes.
Matthew 11:21
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if
the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which
occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in
sackcloth and ashes.
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if
the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon
which occurred in you, they would have repented long
ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Lenten period is a season I love ❤ most. Station of the Cross loading

Ubenedictus:
the Bible doesn't condemn going about with ash, when a city proclaim repentance the Bible show they go about with ash


Ezekiel 27:30
And they will make their voice heard over you And will
cry bitterly They will cast dust on their heads, They will
wallow in ashes.
Ashes » Repenting in
Job 42:6
Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."
Daniel 9:3
So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by
prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and
ashes.
Jonah 3:6
When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose
from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered
himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes.
Matthew 11:21
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if
the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which
occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in
sackcloth and ashes.
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if
the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon
which occurred in you, they would have repented long
ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

u know i'm ref to this portion Matt6v16-18....

sexybaby22:
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Hi ma'am. Good morning to you.

EmperorKpee:

Hi ma'am. Good morning to you.

Top of the morning!!

For devout Catholics in this thread, make sure you are not disturbed by some elements her claiming to know Christianity more than you. I wish all successful Lenten season!

Is the abstinence on meat alone or both meat and fish

Antidotecasmir:
Is the abstinence on meat alone or both meat and fish

Meat. You can eat fish.

Also, we are to make effort to abstain from unholy practices/bad habits this Lenten season, with the hope of being able to sustain it after lent is over.

We believe fasting isn't just about abstaining from food and prayers alone, people should alsovtry to become better versions of themselves in accordance with God's directives, give to the poor and needy and most especially let people see God in your lifestyle.

God knows we can never be perfect, but we should strive to attain some level of godliness.

Any other catholic is free to add to my input.

ikorodureporta:


what i shared does not condemn repentance...verses before that even emphasized on repentance & forgiveness. Its only against showing the world that u'r fasting by putting on that Ash

See what Jesus said to Chorazin below
Luke 10:13
"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if
the miracles had been performed in Tyre and Sidon
which occurred in you, they would have repented long
ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Ash Wednesday emphasizes repentance. And the whole of heaven rejoices when one sinner repents. Luke 15:10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."

That you are upset shows the spirit pushing against Ash Wednesday.

I am no longer dust for I now bear the image of the second and last Adam{Jesus Christ}.

The Man from above.