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The author of the post doesn't realise that it is the failure of the church that is bringing about the problems in the country.

The church is supposed to produce upright folks who will inturn lead the way but the church is more focused on wealth and "unmerited favors" hence the moral decline of the society.

The fact that corruption and churches are increasing at almost the same rate means there's a disconnect somewhere.

HeyCorleone:
Those who are against Churches or GOs criticized for being Uber rich are obviously getting something from it. You can't come and spoil their source of living.

The Church shouldn't amass so much wealth that its members would be in penury and it wouldn't take note.. That is why the Catholic Church has survived these years. The Church is mega rich, still it is the no 1 nongovernmental charity organization. The Catholic Church has no private jet neither do their clergies engage in ostentatious activities.

As a church you should learn to distribute your wealth so that everyone around is happy.

You are so on point and help me tell @ of that any church that open any business venture has already compromised it's Purpose, least buying private jets.

sucess001:
One of these men is the Vice President

And sorrounded by thousands of church-blaming minds who themselves are suppose to be govt.

Space booked

AZeD1:
The author of the post doesn't realise that it is the failure of the church that is bringing about the problems in the country.

The church is supposed to produce upright folks who will inturn lead the way but the church is more focused on wealth and "unmerited favors" hence the moral decline of the society.

The fact that corruption and churches are increasing at almost the same rate means there's a disconnect somewhere.

The church according to statistics, has less followers than Mosques but you managed to blame the church for the ills of the society.
Realize that the church is not a place where people are forced to obey, it is a place where you take responsibility for your life and actions.

HigherEd:
By Nneka Okumazie

The biggest problem Nigeria has is lack of good focus. There is no focus on major or simple problems, everything that is a debate or topic or focus or projects is not what will truly move Nigeria forward. Instead it is one foolish debate after another, one baseless argument after another, one terrible headline and no simple or useful sense to combat major problems from responsible quarters.

The most common foolishness in Nigeria now is criticism of the Church of GOD; Church, tithe, first fruits, Church online offering, Church private jets, Church pastors, Church branches, Church universities, Church testimonies, Church teachings, Church poor members, etc.



The debate is so stupid, so foolish, so flawed that no matter how smart a person may feel, the moment you participate in these kinds of argument, you are in the realm of the obtuse.

Nobody says true Churches are beyond criticism, they are not; nobody says there are no fake churches or feigned Christianity practices, there are. But in terms of many of the arguments against the Church of GOD, conflicted for the role of government, it is complete foolishness no matter who you are.



The mission of the Church of GOD is not to develop Nigeria. The Church is not even as cash rich as major oil, telecommunication, bank or top lotto, companies. The Church is about the Kingdom of GOD and the message of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So many useless CSR in Nigeria, nobody can face them relentlessly as Daddy Freeze against the Church of GOD. So many companies with opaque deductions and charges with nothing revolutionary back into the country sympathizers of these companies say they are a business with shareholders for profit, not development.



They are exempted, but the Church of GOD is responsible for development, OK.

Entertainment in Nigeria is already saturated. Most contents are low quality, vulgar songs, awkward insensitive jokes, terrible film plots, mediocre football and other sport performance, yet entertainment sponsorship is highest in Nigeria. Entertainment is not development. In fact those low quality, uninspiring, entertainment are not relevant to mental or national development.

Yet, nobody can touch or criticize entertainment. How many songs can a person listen to or movies in Nigeria that will make an individual think to become a better professional? Yet people go to the Church of GOD, learn, get encouraged, and want to be better and ambitious on earth and for heaven. So this true Church is the problem, OK.

In Nigeria, why should you not go to Church, and pray, whether it is answered or not, if the prayer or well-wishing prophecies makes you feel better, why not? There is no security, no hospital, no safety, no light, no road, no money, no water, no order, no guarantee, no fire extinguisher, no law, no transparency, no equal opportunity, no investigation, no justice, fraud everywhere, corruption everywhere, no progress, no quality control, dirty environment, fetidness, direct and indirect prostitution, no sound education, no work, only one state is trying to be functional, no food, and no future, nothing, why should a person not go to Church?

Young Nigerians are leaving the country desperately, some drown at sea, some are stranded abroad, but finding ways to solve all the causes of this problem with the federal and state governments or some very useful CSR is not the case. It is the Church online giving that is the problem, OK.

People forget that the problems of Nigeria drove Church growth, not otherwise. If you want economic and infrastructural development from the Church of GOD, ask the government to pay taxes and oil revenues there. But the Church of GOD does what it has to do for its mission from the Scriptures.

Some people will like the option to pay online instead of cash, if the option is not for you ignore, it is not a reason for cheap shot at the Church when there are other organization options too and so many problems around, with no good sense or suggestion and realistic solutions with your vile platform.

If an overseer, truly called of GOD rides a private jet, let GOD who called that overseer be the judge. But that a Church owns a private jet and it is a reason to connect jet to poverty, sorry, the Church of GOD does not have the political power, policies and resources to alleviate poverty in this oddish Nigeria. Besides, if the worst thing an overseer will do is use a private jet that everyone knows about, it is far better than so many appalling things many kinds of terrible religious clerics do that no one knows about.

There are so many sectors and industries in Nigeria not under the power of the government, but those people there by themselves cannot reform themselves to shape their work to make Nigeria a better place. But from every angle, the Church is adjudged the problem, false, lie, false.

There are righteous rich people in true Churches in Nigeria, they support the work. Those who do not have enough, give what they have, not under any force. The Church of GOD is where true Christians connect with the Comforter, and they come, rich or poor, in joy or sadness. The Church of GOD is a place where lives are touched and minds are renewed.

But this Church is under attack. Not fair attack, not wise attacks, foolishness, and you watch how it has now become normal, on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, by those who opted to blindfold themselves and think the Church should be what they interpret not about the Kingdom of GOD.

Until Nigeria as a country starts to focus on actual development, there is almost no way it will move forward. There is nobody in this world that can turn off the Light of the Church of GOD, no matter the bitter attacks. Christians started in the Acts of the Apostles, and will remain until Jesus Christ of Nazareth returns, to redeem them to Him...

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/02/09/church-god-nigeria-not-government-nigeria/

Lalasticlala

You deserve prison sentence for this criminal and one sided post of yours.

Because they are pastors, even if they fly on private jet while chuch members are poor as church rat they should be excepted grom criticism right?

Both you and your sponsor will end up in hell.....bunch of fraudsters.

your Opinion is flawed .to begin with Nigeria Churches are the one encouraging most of these leaders to steal. like Catholic indulgence of old, the politicians believe as far as they are paying their tithes and all kinds of money they are saved. so they steal government money with impunity.

churches preach prosperity, unmerited wealth etc making brethren to be desperate pursue vanity just to make a statement financially

Op,_you smartly goofed. Op what are you saying?

Afam4eva:
We will continue to criticize anything that we find wrong. be it Government, church, school or any institution for that matter.

criticize what u have no right on or what is none of ur business or where u Neva invested in, use ur brain

HigherEd:
Lol as in ehn. Mention Rccg pastor did this bad or evil this and NL mods would forget that today isn't Sunday. The speed at which it would hit FP would be faster than that of light. This is one of the important reasons why the church should takeover the mountain of media - Sons of God strategically placed in key positions in Media advocating for Christ and his Church as opposed to the agents of Darkness amplifying propaganda against the Church.

I understand how this things work, all you need is tell a side of a story for so long people would begin to believe that side of the story as the entire story. Unfortunately most ppl don't know that half truths are dangerous than outright lies.

with the way u reason I think is better u realize on time that church or political party, ur. opinion doesn't count and u have no say

koladebrainiac:
your Opinion is flawed .to begin with Nigeria Churches are the one encouraging most of these leaders to steal. like Catholic indulgence of old, the politicians believe as far as they are paying their tithes and all kinds of money they are saved. so they steal government money with impunity.

churches preach prosperity, unmerited wealth etc making brethren to be desperate pursue vanity just to make a statement financially

Nigerian leaders have been stealing since the days when churches were as poor as church-rat and churches believed wealth was a road to hell fire, so stop that daft talk of churches inspiring leaders to steal funds.

HeyCorleone:
Those who are against Churches or GOs criticized for being Uber rich are obviously getting something from it. You can't come and spoil their source of living.

The Church shouldn't amass so much wealth that its members would be in penury and it wouldn't take note.. That is why the Catholic Church has survived these years. The Church is mega rich, still it is the no 1 nongovernmental charity organization. The Catholic Church has no private jet neither do their clergies engage in ostentatious activities.

As a church you should learn to distribute your wealth so that everyone around is happy.

so d catholic use to distribute money to d poor or perhaps d catholic have there own diff bible that says u should judge for God, if not u r just saying nonsense

koladebrainiac:
your Opinion is flawed .to begin with Nigeria Churches are the one encouraging most of these leaders to steal. like Catholic indulgence of old, the politicians believe as far as they are paying their tithes and all kinds of money they are saved. so they steal government money with impunity.

churches preach prosperity, unmerited wealth etc making brethren to be desperate pursue vanity just to make a statement financially

it is against God's will that a Christian should be poor.

does poverty validate your christainity

no true man of God would tell you to steal and bring Tithes for him

by the way, does the Catholic Church collect offering , do they do harvest and bazaars sales, do collect project offerings.....just wondering

Afam4eva:
We will continue to criticize anything that we find wrong. be it Government, church, school or any institution for that matter.

Three stout for you.

tuoyoojo:
it is against God's will that a Christian should be poor.

does poverty validate your Christianity

I wonder where so-called Christians get this notion that u have a better standing with God when poverty grip your life

depends on which type of poverty you talking about. coz i read in the Bible that Jesus even asked the rich man to sell all his properties n give them to the poor and then follow him

Desyner:
Nigerian leaders have been stealing since the days when churches were as poor as church-rat and churches believed wealth was a road to hell fire, so stop that daft talk of churches inspiring leaders.

its so bad these days . during Jonathan Era, they launder money using churches n pastors

What a load of crap, gov't is not imaginary it is made up of individuals, both Christians and Muslims, the church has been compromised, if you notice one the first laws Buhari focused was on church finances, that effectively shut the churches up, you don't believe when was the last time a major 'man of God' criticized the gov't. You are a learner and don't understand what religion does to people, ask yourself why religion is tax free, If Jesus wanted you to be a sheep of men, he wouldn't tell you to test all spirits.
Imagine if the church focuses on Charities, we would all benefit if a 'christian' get a position of power, but instead, we believe once you pay tithe and all that crap, you can safely close your eyes to the suffering of others, THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF NIGERIA; MORAL BANKRUPTCY.
If everybody was as foolish as you, pastors like Rev. King and co would still be operating.

koladebrainiac:
depends on which type of poverty you talking about. coz i read in the Bible that Jesus even asked the rich man to sell all his properties n give them to the poor and then follow him

are you following jesus, have u sold any of your properties and given to the poor......

PaChukwudi44:
you are terrible liar.The early church never practised tithing.Neither did the early missionaries who brought Christianity to us

If white people see this now ,they would say Africans don't read....so tithing started in Nigeria in 1960 or what are you saying.

koladebrainiac:
its so bad these days . during Jonathan Era, they launder money using churches n pastors

How ?

Afam4eva:
We will continue to criticize anything that we find wrong. be it Government, church, school or any institution for that matter.

And you will get tired because the church is matching on and the gate of hell shall not prevail

The fact remain that there are churches in Nigeria who are just doing business and manipulating the people using the Holy Spirit. And they are increasing day by day because most Nigeria do not believe in finding God for themselves. We still see God as being very far. I know about three churches who started because of disagreement in sharing formula.Even Jesus recognized this when he said that not all who call Father Father will see the kingdom.

There are a lot of religious people in Nigeria but less morality and less righteousness.

Desyner:
Criticizing the church for govt responsibility is one of the most stupid moves ever . . .

Very stupid Indeed my brother

BruncleZuma:
See them pathing themselves on the back...remove religion from State and see Nigeria progress.

Why was Nigeria before Christianity came.Yoruba land fought vigil war for 16 years.No single educated fellow neither was their hospital.Missionary were the one that clothes some community unclothedness and stopped human rituals/killing of twins and other vices.So what do you mean by your statement

HigherEd:
Not when the criticisms are senseless, illogical and baseless to begin with.

The Criticism of Tithing or Giving to Church is baseless as it wasn't created by the Nigerian Clergy, it was well part of the operational mode of those who brought Christianity and has been in practice for thousands of years.

The criticism of private jets is also senseless. Many members are aware of their church's intention to buy jets so why are we bothered? No Church ever hid her jet so If a member isn't happy he should pocket his/her money. Simple! The way I was told the jet of winners was bought in 1997 after the Bishop climbed on the pulpit and called for donations, people donated and it was purchased. No divertion of funds, the stakeholders were fully involved and donated towards it.

The critism of fees in church universities is the most foolish one. They say congregation built schools yet congregation can't afford it. Unless you are part of the congregation it is really not your business either. Yale, Harvard, Oxford, Yonsei were all built and catered for by the Church(congregation) and today they charge in excess of $50,000 which poor Christian Americans can't afford. Yet these universities through innovations, inventions and research breakthrough have more than compensated for the loss of access to the poor. If the American Christians were short sighted as the unbelievers of Nigeria, Harvard would not have existed. Yale would be on her knees and the light of Notre Dame would be dim. The earlier we begin to see Church Universities from the angle of how they serve their Communities and not how they meet our own selfish demands the better.

So let your criticism be with brain

sir, you have done so much good here... may the Good Lord continue to keep and protect you and all that concern you, in Jesus name!

Rubbish! so why are churches and pastors involving themselves in politics with their so called election predictions? The vice president of Nigeria calls himself a pastor! he should have stayed in his church instead of meddling into politics! why do politcians invite church pastors to do election campaigns for them during elections? the pastor in turn should have refused to involve in election campaigns.

Instead of those that claim not to be religious should put up the responsibility in creating a change to the society, all they are busy with is just blank theorems with unnecessary arguments .

God help Nigeria sha

we will continue to bash pastors and churchs they are the main problem with the country, anyone who doesn't like it should slit their wrists.

matiuni:
Why was Nigeria before Christianity came.Yoruba land fought vigil war for 16 years.No single educated fellow neither was their hospital.Missionary were the one that clothes some community unclothedness and stopped human rituals/killing of twins and other vices.So what do you mean by your statement

I mean to say leave the church and mosques out of government.