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Icon79:
Joel Chukwuma Obi is putting on another good shift for Torino against Juvenile today. Going by his performances over the past few weeks, I will expect him to make the Super Eagles World Cup team. But to be fair, I am not sure that he can start ahead of Ndidi or Onazi.

We shall see.


O pari

That's true,he is injury prone and maybe not the coach choice,he will not start ahead of onazi,but on. Normal basis he is a better player than onazi.

DrKlever:
I don't u understand what kinda play gets injured all the time and walks straight into the starting lineup. something must be special about this Joel Chukwuma Obi. well, I'm glued to my TV as Torino battles Juventus. Lemme experience what the coach sees in him.

what channel is showing it ?

andrew444:
Yes o bros,I will consider onyekuru ahead of ideye and nwakaeme,I also don't see kayode going to the World Cup talk less of taking him as 3rd striker,the guy is not playing for a girona team so he can't be at the World Cup,even osimhen is having little game game at Wolfsburg he even started last weekend and came as a sub against Bayern yesterday,as for ideye suddenly he is back in the radar,lol,as my guy don join malaga come score yesterday,I trust me peeps in this thread.

My comment is based on strikers available for us not even based on their club performance and best way for me is to.pick those that Rohr extends invitation to during qualifiers which i think were Brown Ideye,Nwakaeme,Kayode Olarewaju even Aron Samuel.

This is the way i analyse my point cos till today i still consider Akpeyi as Rohr player irrespective what people are saying,so considering Ideye or Kayode for third striker position in 23 man list is still in order.

Pls tell me any Nigeria top striker(No 9)painting Europe with goals

Oyekwuru over Ideye and Nwakaeme as top striker or what?cos Rohr will never consider such,hope you remember when he came in for Nwakaeme,Iheanacho need to move to Nwakaeme position and Oyekwuru to left side,this is to tell you Rohr doesn't consider him as top striker.

I think you want to absolve Oyekwuru without dropping any of Victor Moses,Simeon Moses, Alex Iwobi and Ahmed Musa,not possible,he just have to slug it out in camp with these aforementioned players.

The third striker is for grab and the best in camp and during friendlies would surely take it and it can be anyone but Nwakaeme and Ideye are in forefront,5 months to go the Aaron Samuel,Kayode,Olarewaju, Onuachu Peter,Victor Osimhen, Junior Ajayi even my fat Isaac Success can grab it.

Kog45:
My comment is based on strikers available for us not even based on their club performance and best way for me is to.pick those that Rohr extends invitation to during qualifiers which i think were Brown Ideye,Nwakaeme,Kayode Olarewaju even Aron Samuel.

This is the way i analyse my point cos till today i still consider Akpeyi as Rohr player irrespective what people are saying,so considering Ideye or Kayode for third striker position in 23 man list is still in order.

Pls tell me any Nigeria top striker(No 9)painting Europe with goals

Oyekwuru over Ideye and Nwakaeme as top striker or what?cos Rohr will never consider such,hope you remember when he came in for Nwakaeme,Iheanacho need to move to Nwakaeme position and Oyekwuru to left side,this is to tell you Rohr doesn't consider him as top striker.

I think you want to absolve Oyekwuru without dropping any of Victor Moses,Simeon Moses, Alex Iwobi and Ahmed Musa,not possible,he just have to slug it out in camp with these aforementioned players.

The third striker is for grab and the best in camp and during friendlies would surely take it and it can be anyone but Nwakaeme and Ideye are in forefront,5 months to go the Aaron Samuel,Kayode,Olarewaju, Onuachu Peter,Victor Osimhen, Junior Ajayi even my fat Isaac Success can grab it.

When last did rohr call ideye ? Ideye was inactive for 6 month due to he was demoted to Tianjin Teda reserves,a fit onykuru will be ahead of ideye,no Nigerian strikers is painting europe with goals,but we have players who scores at Europe,our fat Isaac success will not make the list,when he was on good form how many cap did he win?e go come be now ?ahmed musa Simon Moses and victor are all going to the World Cup okay,onyekuru nwakaeme,not kayode,nwakaeme is yet to receive invitation for march friendly,while ogu has already receive,lets see the full list first,I am not sure if kayode will be going to the World Cup,the coach will decide sha

Humility017:
to be true...wit ideye recent performance I fear he may likely be the 3rd striker...
but any day I will prefer Henry not only more clinical but also....got more pace,ball control and can also play as a winger when occasion demands.

Henry Oyekwuru played mostly as winger,as top man he couldn't do it in his club but very solid from the wings.

My point is this making 23 man list with the presence of Victor Moses,Alex Iwobi,Simeon Moses and Ahmed Musa not easy for him and Rohr will never consider him as number three striker after Ighalo and Iheanacho.

Kog45:
Henry Oyekwuru played mostly as winger,as top man he couldn't do it in his club but very solid from the wings.

My point is this making 23 man list with the presence of Victor Moses,Alex Iwobi,Simeon Moses and Ahmed Musa not easy for him and Rohr will never consider him as number three striker after Ighalo and Iheanacho.

that injury does him no good...
Henry is one player I'II like to see in Russia....going by your writing up there...gonna be difficult for him though...
meaning oshimen or ideye or may be another player spring up prior the World cup...may be the 3rd striker... but I am still hopeful for Henry

Icon79:
Joel Chukwuma Obi is putting on another good shift for Torino against Juvenile today. Going by his performances over the past few weeks, I will expect him to make the Super Eagles World Cup team. But to be fair, I am not sure that he can start ahead of Ndidi or Onazi.

We shall see.


O pari

He is the best player from his team in the match

somehow:
Who are the players he "disrespected" at fortuna, and also those staff and workers?

It's easy to paint people bad when they are to be thrown away.

I have at least read how he demoted some of their old players there who happened to be blocking the progress of the club and we all saw the effect in the club's performance

Some people are known to be against change and when they encounter people who come with drastic one, they fight tooth and nails against it.

Oliseh is a change enthusiast which happens to be very vocal, opinionated and blunt. These characteristics aren't what people are ready to face. People with these traits are hated almost by everyone who aren't in line with change or such character traits.


BTW, Ferguson was foul mouthed as a coach and even dealt with some known players.

Same with Mourinho
Same with Simione.
Roy keane

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/879086-the-20-angriest-coaches-in-sports
Same with Pep but he's very discreet with his own ways.

We have alot of coaches with these traits, difference is that they are already big so people don't count these traits as biggie again.

Maradona isn't left out, same with Gatuso.

List goes on.

Oliseh is known as an authoritarian at fortuna Sittard. In June last year, i shared a report from a dutch newspaper where he was described as a ticking time bomb.

This is 8 months before, he was fired.


"Oliseh behaves at fortuna as a ruler, no one who dares to put him in the road. Whoever has the power to act, plays with fire. By constantly sharpening internal relations, fortuna's eupen-resident Nigerian is making a ticking time bomb."

Wolf in sheep's clothing

Authoritarian 
Also caregiver Marco Lemmens and keeper trainer Patrick Creemers already collided with the African vedette. Their role at fortuna has now been played. Now that the loyal Ferry de Regt also draws conclusions is significant. In particular, the authoritarian behavior of coach Sunday oliseh causes a double split. The Nigerian, in the winter stop as Ben van Dael's successor, looks at the television cameras amicably and sympathetically, but behind the scenes he is the famous wolf in sheep's clothes.

None of the coaches you mentioned treat their players and staff like crap. Yes, Alex Ferguson will give you the hair-dryer treatment if you perform poorly but he was not known as a ticking time bomb because of his behavior.

All of the coaches you mentioned are incidently very loyal to their players.

Thank God someone else is seeing beyond the media propoganda.

Mickael2:
it baffles me that people are even keying into that rubbish. I mean this was the same Oliseh that took a bunch of unknowns to the top of the league,winning almost all their games at home, if that does not mean that the players are behind their coach I wonder what is. Then Oliseh is sacked and they lost(AT HOME) to a team that they should have defeated handsomely, if that is not the players voicing out their disappointment I wonder what is.

Fortuna Sittard is a local team and most of the top guys want their kids playing for the first team, and this was why Oliseh was sacked

Mickael2:
it baffles me that people are even keying into that rubbish. I mean this was the same Oliseh that took a bunch of unknowns to the top of the league,winning almost all their games at home, if that does not mean that the players are behind their coach I wonder what is. Then Oliseh is sacked and they lost(AT HOME) to a team that they should have defeated handsomely, if that is not the players voicing out their disappointment I wonder what is.

Fortuna Sittard is a local team and most of the top guys want their kids playing for the first team, and this was why Oliseh was sacked

False, as far back as last year, Oliseh's behavior was described as a ticking timebomb

Because a Dutch writer did, I should swallow such writings?

If he's got bad man management as being preached, why was he winning matches with the players thereby setting records? Was he using mercheneries?

Humility017:
nobody has a presumed mindset about him...
his nasty character is telling on him....
mind you same character he manifested when he handled the super eagles came to play in netherland..and watch...it will still play out in his next coaching job...he has a bad attitude...they've been many coaches fired or suspended because of Similiar issue may be refusal to party to the club dubious schemes if the allegations by oliseh is anything to go by...
but this coaches will never utter any of such irresponsible words he said after his suspension....

don't forget a Dutch journalist wrote about his poor man managerial skill some time ago which lead to the resignation of some of his backroom staffs....but we took it lightly and now the everything have been left open...and here you're talking about presumption

Sentiments shared sir.

Kog45:
Sir,let me end it here

somehow:
Because a Dutch writer did, I should swallow such writings?

If he's got bad man management as being preached, why was he winning matches with the players thereby setting records? Was he using mercheneries?

Being a good tactician is one thing...

Being a dictator is another who no one can talk to is another.

Yes because those in power at the club didn't enjoy being sidelined income of the decisions that concerns player management.

What were you expecting them to say? Allow him push them off where they got favors?

tbaba1234:
False, as far back as last year, Oliseh's behavior was described as a ticking timebomb

somehow:
Yes because those in power at the club didn't enjoy being sidelined income of the decisions that concerns player management.

What were you expecting them to say? Allow him push them off where they got favors?

How come other managers are fired for results and not behavior?

How much must you stink up, the job that even your players are against you?

somehow:
Because a Dutch writer did, I should swallow such writings?

If he's got bad man management as being preached, why was he winning matches with the players thereby setting records? Was he using mercheneries?

can I ask you some questions?

is oliseh the first coach to have worked in the netherland?
why is the club management reporting some of this issues about him?
compare his fall out wit enyeama and the nff wit the drama he went display in Holland...

should that Michael assertion be taken for true...that the club management want some of their players in the club team one of the reason for his suspension....then tell me..why the other coaches working in that country still haven't had same rifts prior now...?
is he the only one coaching in netherland...or is he going to tell me that the netherland football is still as corrupt as Nigeria...?

please it will be good you guys come to terms that this man's character is telling on him and not people presumption.

Who was he winning games with then since he treats his players and staff like trash?

Now that he's no longer there, how come they are back to where they belong, losing games home and away?

tbaba1234:
Oliseh is known as an authoritarian at fortuna Sittard. In June last year, i shared a report from a dutch newspaper where he was described as a ticking time bomb.

This is 8 months before, he was fired.


"Oliseh behaves at fortuna as a ruler, no one who dares to put him in the road. Whoever has the power to act, plays with fire. By constantly sharpening internal relations, fortuna's eupen-resident Nigerian is making a ticking time bomb."

Wolf in sheep's clothing

Authoritarian 
Also caregiver Marco Lemmens and keeper trainer Patrick Creemers already collided with the African vedette. Their role at fortuna has now been played. Now that the loyal Ferry de Regt also draws conclusions is significant. In particular, the authoritarian behavior of coach Sunday oliseh causes a double split. The Nigerian, in the winter stop as Ben van Dael's successor, looks at the television cameras amicably and sympathetically, but behind the scenes he is the famous wolf in sheep's clothes.

None of the coaches you mentioned treat their players and staff like crap. Yes, Alex Ferguson will give you the hair-dryer treatment if you perform poorly but he was not known as a ticking time bomb because of his behavior.

All of the coaches you mentioned are incidently very loyal to their players.

tbaba1234:
How come other managers are fired for results and not behavior?

How much must you stink up, the job that even your players are against you?

may be oliseh is the only saint in netherland...coaching roles

why haven't other coaches raise up their voices should his corrupt allegations is anything to go by.... may be the rest coaches are corrupt too?

He had issues with fortuna not with the league board or other clubs in the league so please how are some of your questions relevant here?

It's not the league board or other clubs that are raising dust, it's the club.

My question remains: since he's a bad manager and treats people badly, who was he using to get the results he got while at them helm?

Let's think deeper and stop allowing our sentiments becloud our judgement.

I haven't said in all my comments that he's a saint, only saying some of what are being peddled aren't the true reason for sacking him. They are only using some of his past incidence to Nick him in the mud IMHO.

If an independent body or an expert investigative journalist get on this case, you'd be surprised at what they will unearth.

Humility017:
can I ask you some questions?

is oliseh the first coach to have worked in the netherland?
why is the club management reporting some of this issues about him?
compare his fall out wit enyeama and the nff wit the drama he went display in Holland...

should that Michael assertion be taken for true...that the club management want some of their players in the club team one of the reason for his suspension....then tell me..why the other coaches working in that country still haven't had same rifts prior now...?
is he the only one coaching in netherland...or is he going to tell me that the netherland football is still as corrupt as Nigeria...?

please it will be good you guys come to terms that this man's character is telling on him and not people presumption.

somehow:
Who was he winning games with then since he treats his players and staff like trash?

Now that he's no longer there, how come they are back to where they belong, losing games home and away?

better you worry about oliseh's attitude...the club will be just fine.
the club was supposed to be an opportunity for him to launch his career in Europe coaching roles...and make up for his abysmal display wit the super eagles...

but he ruined it...... it takes character to keep a job....not necessarily competence.
organisation sometimes don't mind let go of a dexterous employee who lacks character just to stay organized an United.

somehow:
Who was he winning games with then since he treats his players and staff like trash?

Now that he's no longer there, how come they are back to where they belong, losing games home and away?

Tactical ability.

Oliseh's behavior hit the fan when the bad results starting coming..

Can you answer the questions I raised or it's not relevant?

Humility017:
better you worry about oliseh's attitude...the club will be just fine.
the club was supposed to be an opportunity for him to launch his career in Europe coaching roles...and make up for his abysmal display wit the super eagles...

but he ruined it...... it takes character to keep a job....not necessarily competence.
organisation sometimes don't mind let go of a dexterous employee who lacks character just to stay organized an United.

So his tactical ability won the games without the player's willingness to play for him?

tbaba1234:
Tactical ability.

Oliseh's behavior hit the fan when the bad results starting coming..

somehow:
He had issues with fortuna not with the league board or other clubs in the league so please how are some of your questions relevant here?

It's not the league board or other clubs that are raising dust, it's the club.

My question remains: since he's a bad manager and treats people badly, who was he using to get the results he got while at them helm?

Let's think deeper and stop allowing our sentiments becloud our judgement.

I haven't said in all my comments that he's a saint, only saying some other what are being peddled aren't the true reason for sacking him. They are only using some of his past incidence to Nick him in the mud IMHO.

If an independent body or an expert investigative journalist get on this case, you'd be surprised at what they will unearth.

if his allegations on the club management/board was truly something we should go by...
you think such shady acts will be goinh on in the netherland without the FA knowinh...

the netherland is one of Europe most transparent country....you mean the gross corruption and dirty deals of fortune stittard will slip through their fingers without their notice.

oliseh rubbed his face dirty wit those defensive words he mutted after he was suspended...those things were not necessary.

andrew444:
Bros which station dey show am?

If you're on dstv, RAI (430) station always show serie a matches.

Even FIFA and EUFA as big organisations even as big as some countries had dirty dealings for years without people knowing how much more one country.

Same with Seria A and Seria B so what are we saying here?

What he should wouldn't be without evidence, since the case is being investigated, why not wait to see if what he said appears to be the truth or you see whites as saints without corruption?

Humility017:
if his allegations on the club management/board was truly something we should go by...
you think such shady acts will be goinh on in the netherland without the FA knowinh...

the netherland is one of Europe most transparent country....you mean the gross corruption and dirty deals of fortune stittard will slip through their fingers without their notice.

oliseh rubbed his face dirty wit those defensive words he mutted after he was suspended...those things were not necessary.

http://www.brila.net/dont-want-go-jail-oliseh-exposes-shady-owners-fortuna-sittard/

somehow:
So his tactical ability won the games without the player's willingness to play for him?

The same players are against him today.

Abusule007:
If you're on dstv, RAI (430) station always show serie a matches.

Dat 1 go be if person pay full package.

Yup. They lost control of the midfield once he got subbed out, after putting in a solid 72 mins.


O pari

mazimee:
He is the best player from his team in the match

I totally agree. Technically, he's the most intelligent midfielder we'd have in the team. He knows when to keep it simple and when to make a run. And his off the ball movement is topnotch! I rate him highly, but injuries are a big concern. he even took another knock today ... scared da shis out me when I saw him lying there. But he was fine in the day.


O pari

andrew444:
That's true,he is injury prone and maybe not the coach choice,he will not start ahead of onazi,but on. Normal basis he is a better player than onazi.

Icon79:
I totally agree. Technically, he's the most intelligent midfielder we'd have in the team. He knows when to keep it simple and when to make a run. And his off the ball movement is topnotch! I rate him highly, but injuries are a big concern. he even took another knock today ... scared da shis out me when I saw him lying there. But he was fine in the day.


O pari

Yeah bros,he took another knocked today? When i chekced he was sub at 72 minute,so na because of knock?

Joel Obi did ok today. Wasn't concentrating fully on the game, crazy how he messed that 2 on 1 up with Belotti.
He has to make the squad at least as a sub.