MIKOLOWISKA:
i can back up what i claim you can only throw insults quarter baked in fact just wheat not even flour not to talk of baked barren land gabadaya

back up with what?

MIKOLOWISKA:
i can back up what i claim you can only throw insults quarter baked in fact just wheat not even flour not to talk of baked barren land gabadaya

back up with what?

ivandragon:



back up with what?

facts not lack of home training

MIKOLOWISKA:
facts not lack of home training

lol...
where do you get your facts from?

ivandragon:



lol...

where do you get your facts from?

where facts are gotten

MIKOLOWISKA:
where facts are gotten

why beat around the bush?


can't you mention where you get your 'facts' from?


I referred to 'reading' for mine, you condemned me. now I humbly ask... where do you get your facts from, you are fumbling...


I was thinking you would say everything you know in life is based on personal experience... no 'reading', just personal experience...

Nowenuse:


You are very wrong.

First of all, on the issue of Timor leiste (or east Timor), they did not get their independence based on the loudness of their insults or protests.
East Timor was an independent country which was invaded and annexed by Indonesia. So their situation is in no way analogous to that of Biafra which has been part of Nigeria from Independence. .....This was why the UN heavily supported them and urged Indonesia to release them.
East Timor also had a very powerful militant group called the Fretlin, who fought fiercely against the Indonesian army for decades.

Secondly, no matter the agitations by the secessionist masses, if their political leaders are not within a political party framework that supports the secessionist ideologies, there is no way that these leaders can ever be intimidated by the protesting masses into buying a secessionist ideology, unless the case of militancy is involved. At least, I have not seen that happen anywhere. Both Catalonia & Scotland have political leaders within a party framework that believes and support secession, unlike your Biafra that is filled with pro-one Nigeria governors of PDP & APC.

Why don't you guys have a Biafran political party to dominate the political environment of the SE first of all and see if others will not take you serious?
By the time this happens, most people within Nigeria and the international environment will now know and accept the fact that you guys are serious with your struggle. Cos by then, you guys would have the support of the elite and political class.

There is no underestimation of what a united political & elite class of representatives can do for your region. They will give the FG serious competition & hot trouble. They can function as a sort of regional govt and coalition, even possibly winning the support of people and intellectuals from other regions.
Until then, Biafra is seen as an agitation mostly championed by riff-raffs, street urchins, miscreants, scoundrels, societal misfits, uneducated and jobless illiterate masses.

Keep supporting One Nigeria while Fulani Herdsmen from all over Sahel of West, Central and East Africa converge in Nigeria in order to steal land.

Very soon, you will understand why Gideon Orkar plotted his coup.

You need border to stop the influx of these people and you can't build this border if you don't have a country of yours.

Time will open your eyes and help you to know why I say, Northern Christians are less intelligent.


@ gidgiddy, nonaira1, horsepower101, etc the fact above is the reason I don't sympathize with the Northern Christians again.

They refuse to see the incoming danger.

kettykings keep insulting IPOB while Fulani Herdsmen eye our lands.

EternalTruths:


Keep supporting One Nigeria while Fulani Herdsmen from all over Sahel of West, Central and East Africa converge in Nigeria in order to steal land.

Very soon, you will understand why Gideon Orkar plotted his coup.

You need border to stop the influx of these people and you can't build this border if you don't have a country of yours.

Time will open your eyes and help you to know why I say, Northern Christians are less intelligent.

I will not keep supporting one Nigeria. But I will not go about mine the way you guys are doing.

As soon as I become buoyant enough in a short time, I will start up a unity group for the people of my region with serious enlightenment and many other things, to the liberation of our people. ....A lot of us have serious plans for our people, but we are going to go about it in better ways. Cos some things just cannot be achieved in the ways which we think they will.

However, make no mistake. I am not a hater of Nnamdi Kanu or IPOB movement. Infact I admire them for even having the courage to speak up against the FG or make any move at all. I only wished it will be done in a better way.

ivandragon:



why beat around the bush?

what bush

can't you mention where you get your 'facts' from?

are you so daft
do facts hang on nothing
fact about what
abi for your village they have facts about facts

I referred to 'reading' for mine, you condemned me. now I humbly ask... where do you get your facts from, you are fumbling...

no
you said i do not read

i don't fumble
you are the one asking a baseless question
fact of what?

imagine how you sound just asking for where you get your opinions from
opinion on what
think before you talk
I was thinking you would say everything you know in life is based on personal experience... no 'reading', just personal experience...

no wonder
you are probably a teacher that believes book is the best way to learn
i wonder which is more factual reading about fire or seeing it live
i pity your kids
na propaganda go full dia head
will not be able to think for themselves like their parent

Nowenuse:


I will not keep supporting one Nigeria. But I will not go about mine the way you guys are doing.

As soon as I become buoyant enough in a short time, I will start up a unity group for the people of my region with serious enlightenment and many other things, to the liberation of our people. ....A lot of us have serious plans for our people, but we are going to go about it in better ways. Cos some things just cannot be achieved in the ways which we think they will.

However, make no mistake. I am not a hater of Nnamdi Kanu or IPOB movement. Infact I admire them for even having the courage to speak up against the FG or make any move at all. I only wished it will be done in a better way.

Keep waiting until you have money that you are not sure you will have in sufficient amount.

By the time you have that money you desire, hope Northern Christians won't have become Refugees in the South.

Keep thinking that IPOB are fools while Fulani Herdsmen are already gaining grounds in your region.

Time will prove me right when you see more than 25 million Fulani Herdsmen in your region from different parts of the Sahel.

I am a good student of history & geography.

EternalTruths:


Keep waiting until you have money that you are not sure you will have in sufficient amount.

By the time you have that money you desire, hope Northern Christians won't have become Refugees in the South.

Keep thinking that IPOB are fools while Fulani Herdsmen are already gaining grounds in your region.

Time will prove me right when you see more than 25 million Fulani Herdsmen in your region from different parts of the Sahel.

I am a good student of history & geography.

I am starting most likely this year or next. So it's not so far from now.

MIKOLOWISKA:


what bush




are you so daft
do facts hang on nothing
fact about what
abi for your village they have facts about facts


no
you said i do not read

no wonder
you are probably a teacher that believes book is the best way to learn
i wonder which is more factual reading about fire or seeing it live
i pity your kids
na propaganda go full dia head
will not be able to think for themselves like their parent

bush runner...


you are just a frustrated clown...


everything you know, you have seen right?


its scary there are still Nigerians as myopic as you.


when you do research, what do you refer to as secondary data? what are the sources?


like I said... you are half baked & dangerous to yourself, your family & community...


ensure you do not send your kids to school... ensure they learn all they need to learn by just be roustabouts like you.

ivandragon:




bush runner...

expert mouth runner

you are just a frustrated clown...

me ke
no be you carry anoda man headache for head

everything you know, you have seen right?

everything

its scary there are still Nigerians as myopic as you.

yet you have been vomitting rubbish with no basis from day one and insult anyone that is trying to open your eyes
anyway natural selection will kick in so no worries

when you do research, what do you refer to as secondary data? what are the sources?

not opinions
but
verifiable facts

like I said... you are half baked & dangerous to yourself, your family & community...

opinions are free so i don't blame you
they take very little effort

ensure you do not send your kids to school... ensure they learn all they need to learn by just be roustabouts like you.

they will rule your children who 'learn' what they are told
mine will question everything till they get to the core
guess whose kids will be roustabouts
very dull individual
can't even read

Nowenuse:


Gbam. Thank you. Are you Igbo?

Yes, 100% and a proud nwoke Omambala from Awka and residing in Igboland precisely Onitsha.

EternalTruths:


Keep supporting One Nigeria while Fulani Herdsmen from all over Sahel of West, Central and East Africa converge in Nigeria in order to steal land.

Very soon, you will understand why Gideon Orkar plotted his coup.

You need border to stop the influx of these people and you can't build this border if you don't have a country of yours.

Time will open your eyes and help you to know why I say, Northern Christians are less intelligent.


@ gidgiddy, nonaira1, horsepower101, etc the fact above is the reason I don't sympathize with the Northern Christians again.

They refuse to see the incoming danger.

kettykings keep insulting IPOB while Fulani Herdsmen eye our lands.

Fulani herdsmen's problem had been there before your father and my father were even born so IPOB sympathizers should stop using such nonsense as an excuse, go get your Biafra and referendum and quit all the online noise, it's getting boring by the day.
Nobody is begging you to sympathize with northern Christians because they never asked for your sympathy, you've always hated them and only want them now in order to include them in your phantom Biafra just as brainless, useless, Chief idiot and pig Nnamdi kanu directed.
Why not go plot your coup too just like Gideon Orkar or are scared and waiting for someone else to do the job for you?

Nowenuse:


I will not keep supporting one Nigeria. But I will not go about mine the way you guys are doing.

As soon as I become buoyant enough in a short time, I will start up a unity group for the people of my region with serious enlightenment and many other things, to the liberation of our people. ....A lot of us have serious plans for our people, but we are going to go about it in better ways. Cos some things just cannot be achieved in the ways which we think they will.

However, make no mistake. I am not a hater of Nnamdi Kanu or IPOB movement. Infact I admire them for even having the courage to speak up against the FG or make any move at all. I only wished it will be done in a better way.

IPOB is a cult and you must swear to an oath before you are taken as a full member, don't mind those kids who come online supporting IPOB when they don't know what that cult is all about, I implore you to hate anything IPOB and attack them online and offline well. Nobody wants a Nazi Germany in Igboland.

EternalTruths:


Keep waiting until you have money that you are not sure you will have in sufficient amount.

By the time you have that money you desire, hope Northern Christians won't have become Refugees in the South.

Keep thinking that IPOB are fools while Fulani Herdsmen are already gaining grounds in your region.

Time will prove me right when you see more than 25 million Fulani Herdsmen in your region from different parts of the Sahel.

I am a good student of history & geography.

Go get your damn Biafra and stop mas.turbating over northern Christians as if you love them in the first place.

MIKOLOWISKA:


expert mouth runner



me ke
no be you carry anoda man headache for head



everything



yet you have been vomitting rubbish with no basis from day one and insult anyone that is trying to open your eyes
anyway natural selection will kick in so no worries



not opinions
but
verifiable facts


opinions are free so i don't blame you
they take very little effort




they will rule your children who 'learn' what they are told
mine will question everything till they get to the core
guess whose kids will be roustabouts
very dull individual
can't even read

yesterday's trash...

Nowenuse:




I am starting most likely this year or next. So it's not so far from now.

So have you gotten the money yet.?

Hope you have at least 1 million Naira to that effect.?

I laugh at people who thinks they can achieve great things on their own

Start with a group before raising yours.

EternalTruths:


So have you gotten the money yet.?

Hope you have at least 1 million Naira to that effect.?

I laugh at people who thinks they can achieve great things on their own

Start with a group before raising yours.

Of course I have been working with various groups for many years now. I was an administrator and co-founder of the largest middlebelt online group with around 400k members.
I also founded a group of northern/middlebelt christians with thousands of members already.

Yyeske:
IPOB is a cult and you must swear to an oath before you are taken as a full member, don't mind those kids who come online supporting IPOB when they don't know what that cult is all about, I implore you to hate anything IPOB and attack them online and offline well. Nobody wants a Nazi Germany in Igboland.

Hmmm.

Yyeske:
Yes, 100% and a proud nwoke Omambala from Awka and residing in Igboland precisely Onitsha.

It's quite surprising. I have rarely seen full blooded Igbos who are not sympathetic to IPOB cause. ......

Honestly I respect Igbos so much as a people. Without you guys in this country, we wouldn't have had a lot of developments in some areas as we do now. So, I take the Igbos in high esteem, but my esteem was seriously questioned when I saw the manner at which many Igbos were behaving in respect to IPOB. The high display of rudeness, arrogance, Stack Ignorance........and the fsct that they were gaining more numbers by the day.

I only wish the cause would be more intellectual and developmental, based on sound and objective principles. If it was like this, many of us from other regions would have gladly joined the movement.

ivandragon:


yesterday's trash...

your head don de reset abi

Nowenuse:


It's quite surprising. I have rarely seen full blooded Igbos who are not sympathetic to IPOB cause. ......

Honestly I respect Igbos so much as a people. Without you guys in this country, we wouldn't have had a lot of developments in some areas as we do now. So, I take the Igbos in high esteem, but my esteem was seriously questioned when I saw the manner at which many Igbos were behaving in respect to IPOB. The high display of rudeness, arrogance, Stack Ignorance........and the fsct that they were gaining more numbers by the day.

I only wish the cause would be more intellectual and developmental, based on sound and objective principles. If it was like this, many of us from other regions would have gladly joined the movement.

The person that is quoting you and told you to start attacking Ipob online is nothing but an impostor. He's not whom you think he's. Funny enough you seem to be falling for his tricks. Ipob is simply asking for referendum.

Mind you, that I speak and live in Yoruba land and speak Yoruba doesn't mean that I am a Yoruba man. I know a lot of Igbo monikers here that can speak Yoruba fluently but you can never see them impersonating Yoruba, they are always proud of their IBO identity. There is one moniker here called "Nkwuocha" he speaks Yoruba, but he's not Yoruba. He's always proud of his IBO origin.
I want you to bring out your time (if you can) and go through all the posts of that person that quoted you and told you he's IBO, then come back and tell me if he's who he told you he is or not..
He only comment on Ipob thread from ist page to last page quoting everybody like a lunatic. Why is he afraid of disentegration if he's Igbo ?
You can never see the same character on Fulani thread condemning what's is going on, rather the only comment I saw him making on such thread is that Fulani has been in existence, that they should be left to go for their normal businesses, that its Ipob that's is making issue out it. I hope he has modified his comment that day after receiving several bashes from nairalanders.

Again he told you that Ipob swear an oath before recruiting members. I expected you to ask him the kind of oath they take if not normal oath people take when inducted in an organisation, for example, you take an oath during Nysc camping period, you take an oath in the church to abide by the rules and regulations in various organisation in the same church, even the president must take an oath bf becoming the president. I am very sure he used to word " oath " so that people will think that Ipob use human blood.


Do you know that the character behind that moniker is against restructuring ?

The reason why I quoted is because you seem to be carried away by his stupiid comment.

You said that you don't know that there are igbos that are against Biafra, its a lie. 30th may last year should have let you know the truth.
Every IBO man is sympathetic to Biafra, but only few are against the method Ipob is using to pursue Biafra. No average IBO man is again St Biafra. Only the elites and some of their partner's in crime among ibos are afraid of Biafra because they want the status quo to remain because they will be very irrelevant after Biafra is actualised ( You should know the fellings when people that use to respect you stopped respecting you all of a sudden)

The same nigga sometimes make good comment about Anambra so that it will look as if that's where he cam from. Just start monitoring him.

The Nig govt has used all sorts of propaganda to kill Ipob , yet all to know avail. As I am typing this Nig govt has created their own radio Biafra just to distablîze the struggle. They paid some people to start attacking Ipob online, yet all to no avail hence operation python dance, yet. Ipob is still waxing.

Do you know that the person behind that moniker has consistely called ipob terrorist, despite bn disagreed by IBO elders and he told you he's IBO and you believed ?
Do you know that the person behind that moniker is against restructuring ?
Don't be carried away by some stupiid animals on naira land.

Well, I am waiting for him to start quoting me since he's good at quoting anybody that comment on Ipob thread, be cause that is what he came to this world to do.
I hope he doesn't end up like his colleague " Ipobexposed"




If he's not afraid of disintegration, why was he indirectly discouraging you from agitating for independence of Tiv people by attacking the person that asked you to start mobilising your people now whether you have enough money or not.

It seems you are new on nairaland.

I repeat,start start monitoring him, you will see what i am saying , he quotes everbody that comments on Ipob thread, infact, to to you how miserable he is, he links some of his comments to Ipob even when such thread has nothing to do with Ipob, all in a bid to discred Ipob.

Stupidity @ its peak.

Igboesika:

The person that is quoting you and told you to start attacking Ipob online is nothing but an impostor. He's not whom you think he's. Funny enough you seem to be falling for his tricks. Ipob is simply asking for referendum.

Mind you, that I speak and live in Yoruba land and speak Yoruba doesn't mean that I am a Yoruba man. I know a lot of Igbo monikers here that can speak Yoruba fluently but you can never see them impersonating Yoruba, they are always proud of their IBO identity. There is one moniker here called "Nkwuocha" he speaks Yoruba, but he's not Yoruba. He's always proud of his IBO origin.
I want you to bring out your time (if you can) and go through all the posts of that person that quoted you and told you he's IBO, then come back and tell me if he's who he told you he is or not..
He only comment on Ipob thread from ist page to last page quoting everybody like a lunatic. Why is he afraid of disentegration if he's Igbo ?
You can never see the same character on Fulani thread condemning what's is going on, rather the only comment I saw him making on such thread is that Fulani has been in existence, that they should be left to go for their normal businesses, that its Ipob that's is making issue out it. I hope he has modified his comment that day after receiving several bashes from nairalanders.

Again he told you that Ipob swear an oath before recruiting members. I expected you to ask him the kind of oath they take if not normal oath people take when inducted in an organisation, for example, you take an oath during Nysc camping period, you take an oath in the church to abide by the rules and regulations in various organisation in the same church, even the president must take an oath bf becoming the president. I am very sure he used to word " oath " so that people will think that Ipob use human blood.


Do you know that the character behind that moniker is against restructuring ?

The reason why I quoted is because you seem to be carried away by his stupiid comment.

You said that you don't know that there are igbos that are against Biafra, its a lie. 30th may last year should have let you know the truth.
Every IBO man is sympathetic to Biafra, but only few are against the method Ipob is using to pursue Biafra. No average IBO man is again St Biafra. Only the elites and some of their partner's in crime among ibos are afraid of Biafra because they want the status quo to remain because they will be very irrelevant after Biafra is actualised ( You should know the fellings when people that use to respect you stopped respecting you all of a sudden)

The same nigga sometimes make good comment about Anambra so that it will look as if that's where he cam from. Just start monitoring him.

The Nig govt has used all sorts of propaganda to kill Ipob , yet all to know avail. As I am typing this Nig govt has created their own radio Biafra just to distablîze the struggle. They paid some people to start attacking Ipob online, yet all to no avail hence operation python dance, yet. Ipob is still waxing.

Do you know that the person behind that moniker has consistely called ipob terrorist, despite bn disagreed by IBO elders and he told you he's IBO and you believed ?
Do you know that the person behind that moniker is against restructuring ?
Don't be carried away by some stupiid animals on naira land.

Well, I am waiting for him to start quoting me since he's good at quoting anybody that comment on Ipob thread, be cause that is what he came to this world to do.
I hope he doesn't end up like his colleague " Ipobexposed"




If he's not afraid of disintegration, why was he indirectly discouraging you from agitating for independence of Tiv people by attacking the person that asked you to start mobilising your people now whether you have enough money or not.

It seems you are new on nairaland.

I repeat,start start monitoring him, you will see what i am saying , he quotes everbody that comments on Ipob thread, infact, to to you how miserable he is, he links some of his comments to Ipob even when such thread has nothing to do with Ipob, all in a bid to discred Ipob.

Stupidity @ its peak.

I know you are an imposter and not even a Nigerian but from Somalia, why not allow Nigerians discuss their problem? Who asked for your opinion on a Nigerian forum? Imagine long epistle on top trying to ascribe a tribe or region to me.
It is even people like you that I loathe, you reside in the SW but deciding referendum in the east, why not relocate to the SE and continue, I guess you want to become a refugee when you stay there and continue shouting referendum.
I would never take your likes serious until you all move back here and earnestly shout for referendum.
I guess you'd equally advocate referendum for the SW too since you reside there and happily speaking Yoruba, congratulations bro.
Look at an Igbo man spelling Igbo as Ibo, exactly what we correct others at doing. I put it to you today that you are a Somali Jew and not Igbo.

MIKOLOWISKA:
your head don de reset abi

you have been consigned to the dustbin of irrelevance.

pmb is stup!d. you can lament & cry all you want...

Nowenuse:


It's quite surprising. I have rarely seen full blooded Igbos who are not sympathetic to IPOB cause. ......

Honestly I respect Igbos so much as a people. Without you guys in this country, we wouldn't have had a lot of developments in some areas as we do now. So, I take the Igbos in high esteem, but my esteem was seriously questioned when I saw the manner at which many Igbos were behaving in respect to IPOB. The high display of rudeness, arrogance, Stack Ignorance........and the fsct that they were gaining more numbers by the day.

I only wish the cause would be more intellectual and developmental, based on sound and objective principles. If it was like this, many of us from other regions would have gladly joined the movement.

Yyeske is not Igbo!!!!! Every igbo on this forum will tell you that no questions asked. A simply look at his past post should easily tell you that even if you're not Igbo. He's either SW or full blown Northern. Personally I believe he's Hausa/Fulani based on his reply EternalTruth in regards to the fulani herdsmen. Pretty much the same defense all the non southern/MB masquerading northerners on this forum likewise, the northern leaders have for their lack of attack towards the fulani herdsmens. Dude is just another northerners pretending to be wtf he's not.

Keep thinking you're talking to an igbo.

Secondly, why don't you non igbos start your own agemda. Does igbo have to lead you lots before you gwt up and start defending yourselves? If you disagree with IPOB way then start your own. Afterall APC assumed they can do better and lead better than PDP; hell that yoruba ex lagos governor thought he can stabilize the power supply in 6 months but alas, when it came their turn. Wtf happened? If you believe you have a better strategy then start your own.

Funny thing about you lots criticizing ipob is actually the lack of knowlege in terms of Biafran agitation groups. Everything and I mean EVERY SINGLE steps you lots keep narrating that's what IPOB should have done to show they are serious is EXACTLY what BZM as well as Lower Niger Congress took. That same route but yet how far have they gone? How much recognition have they gotten? Who even knows about them and their movement? NONE except those of us that bothers to research about all division seeking groups. International, they are unrecognized and unknown despite one of them base is located in the West. Attempt to enter the Nigerian government to foster for Division have been twarted REPEATEDLY by guess who? Not the people but by your own backwards and incompetent federal government. Why do you think BZM decided to take the Enugu government by force two years ago? You lots seem not to realize how backwards and savagery the country you hail from is starting from the head.
Albeit IPOB did not start their fight in a democratic way nor choosing to continue in a democratic methods has achieved more than those that did. Why? Because unfortunately for una, the only thing that works in your shithole. The only way there's ever a progress of change in that wasteful piece of crap pretending to be Giant of Africa is through choas. A perfect, perfect example is the Niger delta militants. When they were peaceful, were they not repeatedly killed and framed by your government. When they turned violent, was that not when your government chose to listen.. Likewise the biafra agitators, of all the Biafran agitators/division agitators group out there, guess the one your government pays little to zero mind to but doing everything to keep them out of electory box? LNC and BZM (prior to they became violent) aka the only Division group that choose your way. When BZM turned violent, even for just a miniscule second, remind us again what occurred?
Ipob on the other hand that is more obnoxious, more loud and more verbally aggressive has gotten 1.) More recognition by your government that they fear them based on the repeated attempt to try and destroy their reputation globally likewise the continous human rights abuse against their followers plus bribery towards their followers and the extreme obsession of them by their media paid group. 2.) More intentional recognition that foster several west lawyers choosing to help them sue each abuse by your government pro bono likewise, even got some UK politicians to suggest support for biafra referendum in the UK parliament. A document that till this very day is still allowed to be listed up and the politicians still asking for more signature. 3.) Got a US lawyers that was once a politician in the US government to take several of your leaders to court pro bono. Likewise, got the US court even accepting the case despite you're a sovereign nation. Since then, remins us again didn't your gun sale from US flop because of your human rights abuse and a heavy restrictions given to you before you can purchase? Remember you've always engaged in human rights abuse nation but excluding gej rule ( which was due to obama wanted a stooge usa can control), have they ever once restricted you from trade based on that singular abuse? Infact the Cameroon government commits more human rights abuse than your shithole yet till date, the US has not created a restriction in Any sale they made with him. Mind you, he's jailed, killed and attacked several amazonia agitator leaders. Funny, the Amazonia used to follow your suggestions for their fight for independence. Pray tell how far did that get them? How many recognition did they get from the international media? Is it not until recently that they changed their tactics and using somewhat similar tactics as IPOB that more recognition is being drawn to them?

Sorry to bust your bubble....Your Nigeria is a complete shithole. A democratic way does not work in your shithole and your government have proven that statement accurately by their reaction to several different groups. You definitely learn that when you create your own.

Personally, in my opinion, I disagree with the method of IPOB. I think they should create more choas cause that's about the only way they'll get their desire in that sad excuse of a country

Nonaira1:


Yyeske is not Igbo!!!!! Every igbo on this forum will tell you that no questions asked. A simply look at his past post should easily tell you that even if you're not Igbo. He's either SW or full blown Northern. Personally I believe he's Hausa/Fulani based on his reply EternalTruth in regards to the fulani herdsmen. Pretty much the same defense all the non southern/MB masquerading northerners on this forum likewise, the northern leaders have for their lack of attack towards the fulani herdsmens. Dude is just another northerners pretending to be wtf he's not.

Keep thinking you're talking to an igbo.

Secondly, why don't you non igbos start your own agemda. Does igbo have to lead you lots before you gwt up and start defending yourselves? If you disagree with IPOB way then start your own. Afterall APC assumed they can do better and lead better than PDP; hell that yoruba ex lagos governor thought he can stabilize the power supply in 6 months but alas, when it came their turn. Wtf happened? If you believe you have a better strategy then start your own.

Funny thing about you lots criticizing ipob is actually the lack of knowlege in terms of Biafran agitation groups. Everything and I mean EVERY SINGLE steps you lots keep narrating that's what IPOB should have done to show they are serious is EXACTLY what BZM as well as Lower Niger Congress took. That same route but yet how far have they gone? How much recognition have they gotten? Who even knows about them and their movement? NONE except those of us that bothers to research about all division seeking groups. International, they are unrecognized and unknown despite one of them base is located in the West. Attempt to enter the Nigerian government to foster for Division have been twarted REPEATEDLY by guess who? Not the people but by your own backwards and incompetent federal government. Why do you think BZM decided to take the Enugu government by force two years ago? You lots seem not to realize how backwards and savagery the country you hail from is starting from the head.
Albeit IPOB did not start their fight in a democratic way nor choosing to continue in a democratic methods has achieved more than those that did. Why? Because unfortunately for una, the only thing that works in your shithole. The only way there's ever a progress of change in that wasteful piece of crap pretending to be Giant of Africa is through choas. A perfect, perfect example is the Niger delta militants. When they were peaceful, were they not repeatedly killed and framed by your government. When they turned violent, was that not when your government chose to listen.. Likewise the biafra agitators, of all the Biafran agitators/division agitators group out there, guess the one your government pays little to zero mind to but doing everything to keep them out of electory box? LNC and BZM (prior to they became violent) aka the only Division group that choose your way. When BZM turned violent, even for just a miniscule second, remind us again what occurred?
Ipob on the other hand that is more obnoxious, more loud and more verbally aggressive has gotten 1.) More recognition by your government that they fear them based on the repeated attempt to try and destroy their reputation globally likewise the continous human rights abuse against their followers plus bribery towards their followers and the extreme obsession of them by their media paid group. 2.) More intentional recognition that foster several west lawyers choosing to help them sue each abuse by your government pro bono likewise, even got some UK politicians to suggest support for biafra referendum in the UK parliament. A document that till this very day is still allowed to be listed up and the politicians still asking for more signature. 3.) Got a US lawyers that was once a politician in the US government to take several of your leaders to court pro bono. Likewise, got the US court even accepting the case despite you're a sovereign nation. Since then, remins us again didn't your gun sale from US flop because of your human rights abuse and a heavy restrictions given to you before you can purchase? Remember you've always engaged in human rights abuse nation but excluding gej rule ( which was due to obama wanted a stooge usa can control), have they ever once restricted you from trade based on that singular abuse? Infact the Cameroon government commits more human rights abuse than your shithole yet till date, the US has not created a restriction in Any sale they made with him. Mind you, he's jailed, killed and attacked several amazonia agitator leaders. Funny, the Amazonia used to follow your suggestions for their fight for independence. Pray tell how far did that get them? How many recognition did they get from the international media? Is it not until recently that they changed their tactics and using somewhat similar tactics as IPOB that more recognition is being drawn to them?

Sorry to bust your bubble....Your Nigeria is a complete shithole. A democratic way does not work in your shithole and your government have proven that statement accurately by their reaction to several different groups. You definitely learn that when you create your own.

Personally, in my opinion, I disagree with the method of IPOB. I think they should create more choas cause that's about the only way they'll get their desire in that sad excuse of a country

Lord of mercy, see long epistles on top my matter, I will continue to hate anything IPOB till it changes it's ways of thinking and actions, you this Pakistani Jew cannot dictate or tell me who I am because I don't believe in your silly IPOB ideology.

Yyeske:
Lord of mercy, see long epistles on top my matter, I will continue to hate anything IPOB till it changes it's ways of thinking and actions, you this Pakistani Jew cannot dictate or tell me who I am because I don't believe in your silly IPOB ideology.

I got better things to do than care about the feelings of a wannabe be igbo troll on NL. Nigga hate ipob till the day you croak and die, how does that concern me? When i start giving two bleeps about wtf your aboki ass hates, I'll call you.

are u not a man?if nnamdi kanu ideology is not good wats stoppin u frm starting ur own.

Nonaira1:


Yyeske is not Igbo!!!!! Every igbo on this forum will tell you that no questions asked. A simply look at his past post should easily tell you that even if you're not Igbo. He's either SW or full blown Northern. Personally I believe he's Hausa/Fulani based on his reply EternalTruth in regards to the fulani herdsmen. Pretty much the same defense all the non southern/MB masquerading northerners on this forum likewise, the northern leaders have for their lack of attack towards the fulani herdsmens. Dude is just another northerners pretending to be wtf he's not.

Keep thinking you're talking to an igbo.

Secondly, why don't you non igbos start your own agemda. Does igbo have to lead you lots before you gwt up and start defending yourselves? If you disagree with IPOB way then start your own. Afterall APC assumed they can do better and lead better than PDP; hell that yoruba ex lagos governor thought he can stabilize the power supply in 6 months but alas, when it came their turn. Wtf happened? If you believe you have a better strategy then start your own.

Funny thing about you lots criticizing ipob is actually the lack of knowlege in terms of Biafran agitation groups. Everything and I mean EVERY SINGLE steps you lots keep narrating that's what IPOB should have done to show they are serious is EXACTLY what BZM as well as Lower Niger Congress took. That same route but yet how far have they gone? How much recognition have they gotten? Who even knows about them and their movement? NONE except those of us that bothers to research about all division seeking groups. International, they are unrecognized and unknown despite one of them base is located in the West. Attempt to enter the Nigerian government to foster for Division have been twarted REPEATEDLY by guess who? Not the people but by your own backwards and incompetent federal government. Why do you think BZM decided to take the Enugu government by force two years ago? You lots seem not to realize how backwards and savagery the country you hail from is starting from the head.
Albeit IPOB did not start their fight in a democratic way nor choosing to continue in a democratic methods has achieved more than those that did. Why? Because unfortunately for una, the only thing that works in your shithole. The only way there's ever a progress of change in that wasteful piece of crap pretending to be Giant of Africa is through choas. A perfect, perfect example is the Niger delta militants. When they were peaceful, were they not repeatedly killed and framed by your government. When they turned violent, was that not when your government chose to listen.. Likewise the biafra agitators, of all the Biafran agitators/division agitators group out there, guess the one your government pays little to zero mind to but doing everything to keep them out of electory box? LNC and BZM (prior to they became violent) aka the only Division group that choose your way. When BZM turned violent, even for just a miniscule second, remind us again what occurred?
Ipob on the other hand that is more obnoxious, more loud and more verbally aggressive has gotten 1.) More recognition by your government that they fear them based on the repeated attempt to try and destroy their reputation globally likewise the continous human rights abuse against their followers plus bribery towards their followers and the extreme obsession of them by their media paid group. 2.) More intentional recognition that foster several west lawyers choosing to help them sue each abuse by your government pro bono likewise, even got some UK politicians to suggest support for biafra referendum in the UK parliament. A document that till this very day is still allowed to be listed up and the politicians still asking for more signature. 3.) Got a US lawyers that was once a politician in the US government to take several of your leaders to court pro bono. Likewise, got the US court even accepting the case despite you're a sovereign nation. Since then, remins us again didn't your gun sale from US flop because of your human rights abuse and a heavy restrictions given to you before you can purchase? Remember you've always engaged in human rights abuse nation but excluding gej rule ( which was due to obama wanted a stooge usa can control), have they ever once restricted you from trade based on that singular abuse? Infact the Cameroon government commits more human rights abuse than your shithole yet till date, the US has not created a restriction in Any sale they made with him. Mind you, he's jailed, killed and attacked several amazonia agitator leaders. Funny, the Amazonia used to follow your suggestions for their fight for independence. Pray tell how far did that get them? How many recognition did they get from the international media? Is it not until recently that they changed their tactics and using somewhat similar tactics as IPOB that more recognition is being drawn to them?

Sorry to bust your bubble....Your Nigeria is a complete shithole. A democratic way does not work in your shithole and your government have proven that statement accurately by their reaction to several different groups. You definitely learn that when you create your own.

Personally, in my opinion, I disagree with the method of IPOB. I think they should create more choas cause that's about the only way they'll get their desire in that sad excuse of a country

Ok. Good response.

First of all, I cannot argue if Yyeske is a bonafide Igbo or not. So I decline that aspect.


You have made some salient points. However, this is where I think I need to throw in some light.

As for Lower Niger congress (which I know of) and BZM (which I do not know of, so I wouldn't mind you enlightening me about them) , I think both groups were not serious about their agitations. ... They never had a vicious campaign strategy. ..This is the aspect where I admired IPOB. ... IPOB had a radio and very vicious online campaign platforms, they organized rallies e.t.c. We never saw any of such from the LNC. This telle you how unserious they were.
If I start a group today or join another group which I have some influence in and some funds at my disposal. I and my group will honestly do far better than that.


Secondly, As for comparing the case of Nigeria to that of Ambazonia, I think it is not very comparable.
Ambazonia or the English-speaking Cameroon are in a country where they are in a minority and there is no way they can gain the support of others against the dictatorial central govt as the majority of the rest of the country are French speaking.
Sadly, in their own case, the only way they can actually get their independence is through war. Especially considering the fact that their president is a dictator and the black man doesn't understand diplomacy.

The only way for Ambazonia to succeed is by alligning with Nigeria, Just as Eriterea had to allign with Egypt in order to break out of Ethiopia. Unfortunately Nigeria of today has no positive direction considering the kind of leaders we have, if not we would have been in the best position to help them out. So, they are stuck for now. I don't know if Britain would be able to help them out for the sake of them being English speaking.

That aside, Nigeria's case is different from Ambazonia! There is no absolute majority group in Nigeria in any ramifications. The dominating group in Nigeria is always made up of alliance of one group with another. In 2011, Igbos were not talking of Biafra, simply because their alliance body was in power and they had great national representation. Why now start the Biafra shouting as soon as you lost power?
The only way you can be relevant in Nigeria is by making a larger alliance for your cause. This has been proven times without number. Why don't Igbos patiently form an alliance with others and pursue their cause with a stronger alliance?
Even the Hausa-fulanis we are all talking about today, had to make an alliance with the yorubas before taking power. In the past, the same Hausa fulanis used to be in alliance with you Igbos while yorubas were in the opposition.... This tells us that Hausa fulanis are not as indispensable and invincible as we think they are!



Thirdly, Igbos are the most homogenous single largest group in Nigeria, so, the baton has to naturally fall on you guys to lead agitations in this country. ....

Take me for instance, I was an admin and co-founder in the largest middlebelt online group and we had very serious unity problems in that group, to the extent that the forum had to break away into another forum. What cause this? Ethnic and religious difference. Many muslims in our region have this strong sympathy for Arewa & Hausa fulanis due to islam, while many of we christians were strongly pro-south...... Many Tivs were displaying their stupidity in the group. Igalas & Ebiras had their quarrels, Idomas & Tivs had their quarrels......
Infact, I now discovered that there are so many muslim extremist from Niger state, Ilorin and Okene (Ebira people) and these people were no different from the Hausa fulanis we wanted to break out from.

This was when I concluded that a united middlebelt identity on one principle cannot work. So, right now, I am mostly interested in only Plateau, Southern Kaduna & Nasarawa people in the NC and Taraba, parts of Adamawa, Gombe and South Borno. Cos I discovered that most of us from these areas share more in common. These are the areas I will work hard to unify in the future.

As for you Igbos, you have one language, one ethnicity and one religion, which makes it easier for you guys to unite and at the same time become the targets of the core-north.

Yorubas are heavily divided by religion and their large Muslim population can always be comfortable under a Fulani led country as long as islam is promoted, as you can see now.

So, you can see why the onus falls on you Igbos to naturally lead others? So, you guys must not cry about it, but accept full responsibility to unite others against your cause, just as the Hausa-fulanis are doing.
Afterall, you Igbos also produced founding fathers of this nation and are part of the mess we all find ourselves.

Nonaira1:


Personally, in my opinion, I disagree with the method of IPOB. I think they should create more choas cause that's about the only way they'll get their desire in that sad excuse of a country

Where were you when IPOB created chaos last year and were killed in their numbers? You want that to happen again? Am I sure I am talking with a sensible grown up adult? Or an irrational naive teenager?

Pls try to be reasonable and don't let emotions becloud your reasoning. Believe me, I am as bitter as you are against Nigeria. I hate the core-north more than you do!

I know that Nigeria can never progress as a country with Hausa fulanis, that is why It pains me to my bones whenever I remember how Gideon Orkar's coup failed. I have to come over myself everytime and control myself cos I know that emotions can never win this.

You guys can never win this war the way you are going about it. If you doubt me, please keep on trying. But make sure you come over to lead the chaos you are pushing for.

You think you can win by starting a chaos, when your own leaders are against you and when you don't have the alliance and support of other regions, coupled with the fact that you are under a fulani led govt. What suicide mission.