Let me add a sprinkle of optimism into this debate as a summary for aspiring international students.

If you have studied or are studying in fields such as Medicine, Dentistry, Pharmacy, Nursing, IT (all specializations), Engineering (some specialized areas), the UK would provide you the same excellent job opportunities as every other developed country e.g US, Australia etc. It's also an added advantage if you already have your immigration status sorted, so companies know they don't need to go through the additional hassle of sponsoring you. However, if you are in the above disciplines and you haven't got a work permit or some form of visa without work restrictions, the likelihood of an employer sponsoring you is very high. I'm in one of those disciplines and I'm yet to see anyone who studied any of those fields unemployed. The few I know who are not permanently employed are employed as locum by umbrella agencies and their rate of pay is even much higher than those permanently employed.

So, there you go lads. Change IS coming though, the Labour Party (when we WIN the next election) will introduce the Canadian style points system for all international students. A 3-year automatic UK post study visa for all international students is doable in the UK!

saouri:
Marrying someone for papers would be "utilizing my opportunity"...
If you didn't marry someone with papers, you wouldn't have this story...
shift fes �

Any idea about IRELAND

willy2000:

Dude, I studied Computer Science and I am trying to educate you that Computer Science graduates can choose whatever niche they want after graduation. Software Development, Testing, Web DEv. System Engineering etc.
There is no University that will give a a degree in Web dev. or System Engineering.........

Are you also in UK now?

willy2000:

Dude, I studied Computer Science and I am trying to educate you that Computer Science graduates can choose whatever niche they want after graduation. Software Development, Testing, Web DEv. System Engineering etc.
There is no University that will give a a degree in Web dev. or System Engineering.........

you Mean this
marie96:



Okay, from what I've heard ,the course is a very competitive one.
There are some pecks attached to it also

I'm studying software system science.


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claremont:
Let me add a sprinkle of optimism into this debate as a summary for aspiring international students.

If you have studied or are studying in fields such as Medicine, Dentistry, Pharmacy, Nursing, IT (all specializations), Engineering (some specialized areas), the UK would provide you the same excellent job opportunities as every other developed country e.g US, Australia etc. It's also an added advantage if you already have your immigration status sorted, so companies know they don't need to go through the additional hassle of sponsoring you. However, if you are in the above disciplines and you haven't got a work permit or some form of visa without work restrictions, the likelihood of an employer sponsoring you is very high. I'm in one of those disciplines and I'm yet to see anyone who studied any of those fields unemployed. The few I know who are not permanently employed are employed as locum by umbrella agencies and their rate of pay is even much higher than those permanently employed.

So, there you go lads. Change IS coming though, the Labour Party (when we WIN the next election) will introduce the Canadian style points system for all international students. A 3-year automatic UK post study visa for all international students is doable in the UK!

Thank you very much you summed all what I and few others have been trying to say!bravo
me nah product of one of them Enginerring deciplined and 16 years counting Nothing do us.

erico2k2:

you Mean this
marie96:



Okay, from what I've heard ,the course is a very competitive one.
There are some pecks attached to it also

I'm studying software system science.


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Don't be a dolt. I said i studied computer science , You should've asked if that was my fiirst degree or not. Besides, good to see you are learning how to research..... thumbs up

bakynes:
I advised so many people after I returned from the UK because it was exactly that year I was doing my Masters programme they stopped the Post study Work Visa. So I was expecting to work for 3 years,recoup my money before coming back home but the PSW was stopped that year. I did my best to advise many aspiring students not too come to the UK for masters but many didn't listen.

I won't say I lost my money because I really utilized my 20hrs per week to work term time and 40hrs per week during holidays. I even got a Job at the Olympics games and earned a lot of money. I made close to half of my tuition fee. Came back home but didn't get a Job until after 2 years of coming back home.

Canada is the best for Students to study because after graduation you are given a Resident permit but to get their Visa is the most tasking job. USA on the other hand you have the opportunity to work since they won't be asking for your papers even after it has long expired.

US no dey ask for papers? Not this Donald Trump US era bro...

willy2000:


Don't be a dolt. I said i studied computer science , You should've asked if that was my fiirst degree or not. Besides, good to see you are learning how to research..... thumbs up

erm why the use of fancy word * DOLT*?
was there any reason for that, I just glanced at ur past post,You are studying still. Realy? ws that the reason for throwing ur dummy outta the buggy
So basically U did a 1st degree in 9ja and U also came to Germany to do another 1st degree as well? cos U said smthing about you was in ur 3rd year

Ishilove:

You have boxed me to a corner

On a serious note.. my issue with a thread like this is the amount of misinformation it contains.

Its not true that foreign students don't get a job after graduation, just like in every country not many get that job after graduation.

Job opportunities are there IF you qualify for one.

Despite all the tough immigration rules the number of foreign students coming to the UK to study has increased.

We shouldn't mislead people in the name of Enlightenment.

Don't come to the UK if you are looking for a way to leave Nigeria by all means through education, invest your money in Nigeria or look for scholarship.

Bawss1:


This post and the one above deserve a medal.

Too many people in this travel section who don't research properly before traveling overseas or have an inflated sense of entitlement.

Watch carefully a thread like this will spring up next with the same alarming content then you see some town criers blaming the UK for everything that went wrong in their lives.

justwise:


Don't waste your money and time else you come here to cry how UK hate Nigerians.

You can't work, study, do business, rent a house or open bank account with visiting visa.

So visiting visa is that useless?

It's just to allow you spend your hard earned cash I guess. Ds oyinbo ppl do have a superiority complex while blacks have got the other.

erico2k2:

erm why the use of fancy word * DOLT*?
was there any reason for that, I just glanced at ur past post,You are studying still. Realy? ws that the rewason for throwing ur dummy outta the buggy
So basically U did a 1st degree in 9ja and U also came to Germany to do another 1st degree as well? cos U said smthing about you was in ur 3rd year

This will be my last reply to you, unless you write coherently, I won't waste my precious time replying you. Besides don't forget to do the dishes mummy will be back soon.

willy2000:




This will be my last reply to you, unless you write coherently, I won't waste my precious time replying you. Besides don't forget to do the dishes mummy will be back soon.

ahahahah come dont run, I also found this about you so you went to germany for this,U dey rake computer science and advice International students, dey form jUstwise Na wahh

Don't conclude base on "Somones experience". I came to Germany on a language study visa and I converted it here to a student visa.
The Fact is, if you are coming to Germany on a Language Visa, you should have atleast B1, it is as simple as that, Most universities have preparatory classes for DSH but you require at least B1 to get into this class.
@ the Bolded U dey YAB people here upandown

https://www.nairaland.com/willy2000/posts/1

lebete3000:


So visiting visa is that useless?

It's just to allow you spend your hard earned cash I guess. Ds oyinbo ppl do have a superiority complex while blacks have got the other.

No its not useless, the problem is with us Nigerians we have no respect for any constituted authority, we want to abuse any system given the opportunity.

Visiting visa means just that..visiting, not work or study visa.

This is not about superiority as you called it, its a convince a excuse.

We get angry because we get caught doing the wrong thing not because we regret what we have done

erico2k2:

ahahahah come dont run, I also found this about you so you went to germany for this

Don't conclude base on "Somones experience". I came to Germany on a language study visa and I converted it here to a student visa.
The Fact is, if you are coming to Germany on a Language Visa, you should have atleast B1, it is as simple as that, Most universities have preparatory classes for DSH but you require at least B1 to get into this class.
@ the Bolded U dey YAB people here upandown

https://www.nairaland.com/willy2000/posts/1

So e dey pain you. I only tried to correct your wrong misconceptions and the best you can come up with is going through my previous post to get dirts on me...... I laugh at your intelligence.
If someone who claim to be a UK graduate still dont know who Computer graduates are and what they can do. I pity whoever employed you.
FYI, learn how to type proper English and spare me the auto correct bullshit. Or, make you kukuma write pidgin, make i reply you wella.

Aphrodite007:


God bless you immensely. I have been looking for how to create awareness on this issue.

If I had known that it was like that in the UK I wouldn't have bothered going there! People need to be aware that UK should not be an option. Its bewildering (and quite unfair) to make Nigerians pay so much money with little to no benefits in return. I was lucky to have gotten a job as soon as I got back to Nigeria, but what about the other over 30 school mates that were in my school that are jobless in Nigeria with no job to give back to their families for the money spent? One day, I went for a bank job interview, and I saw a lady that studied MPH in my UK University, she finished a year before me, which simply means she had been jobless for a year plus. I was so heartbroken seeing how the UK certificate had not impacted her in any way.

During my studies, I applied to over 100 IT jobs, I knew I was over qualified for some sef, but they turned me down the moment they found out that I was going to need sponsorship (even with the IT shortage)- me, that built their economy with my outrageous tuition! One time, one of the international officers in my school even confided in me that the Indians had blacklisted UK Universities due to the inability to remain in the UK after the amount of money spent, she wondered when we Nigerians would get sense and do the same.

I am always so happy when I see the UK threads reducing in popularity because less Nigerians are going there, rather, I am happy that the Canada, US and Australia threads growing with Nigerian youths that want a better life. UK is so so so not worth it!

I’m confused as to why we think the UK must provide us with job opportunities after an expensive education. We were not forced to study there... we contributed nothing to the infrastructure that attracts us to go there. They want their country to better serve their own citizens and are under no obligation to compensate you for the poor state of your own country.

justwise:

Don't come to the UK if you are looking for a way to leave Nigeria by all means through education, invest your money in Nigeria or look for scholarship.

But isn't this what the OP is trying to say? Why all this argument?

BossLaifay:
But isn't this what the OP is trying to say? Why all this argument?

That is not what he's trying to say only if you have not been following.

willy2000:


So e dey pain you. I only tried to correct your wrong misconceptions and the best you can come up with is going through my previous post to get dirts on me...... I laugh at your intelligence.
If someone who claim to be a UK graduate still dont know who Computer graduates are and what they can do. I pity whoever employed you.
FYI, learn how to type proper English and spare me the auto correct bullshit. Or, make you kukuma write pidgin, make i reply you wella.

Bross nah lie, ,so so lie u dey lie up and down, i thought you was going to blank my post like kilode,I dont have to show proof of me being in the Uk since 1980gbogolo,,Im talking about you and thick LIES.your claims of studying in Germany Bears no water, all nah wash,I have lived abroad and been on NL long enough to know your type nor B today.Me, I have nothing to prove to nobody,if my spelling offends you I owe you no atom of appology bross,SO Y LIE YOU WENT TO GERMANY TO DO MSC when you went on a Language VISA

justwise:
That is not what he's trying to say only if you have not been following.

I have been following and even just went to read his initial post again! He said u will not be given the opportunity to work after studies so better try other countries that would do so. Abi am I getting dense? Cos this is what I grabbed from his write up.
But I guess its a case of half empty half full-people would see what they choose to see.

BossLaifay:
I have been following and even just went to read his initial post again! He said u will not be given the opportunity to work after studies so better try other countries that would do so. Abi am I getting dense? Cos this is what I grabbed from his write up.
But I guess its a case of half empty half full-people would see what they choose to see.

..and that is a not true because the opportunity is there if you bothered to do your research and apply.

justwise:
..and that is a not true because the opportunity is there if you bothered to do your research and apply.

About 1 in 200? Seriously? Is that what you classify as opportunity? Even when ur course is on the shortage skill list? No "guarantees"? That's not what I call opportunity Mr.
Opportunity is being given a pathway to stay for a couple of years to get some experience before returning home (if you wish). Equal opportunity that is not hinged on employers sponsoring you. But what do I know? When gurus like you have the answers to everything

justwise:
..and that is a not true because the opportunity is there if you bothered to do your research and apply.

Lets not all come here and deceive ourselves. The truth of the matter is the chances of getting a job are slim. The truth is majority of people going to study in the UK (or anywhere for that matter) hope to get the opportunity to get some experience after school and possibly remain as a legal immigrant. But in the UK that is hinged on a sponsor and trust me its very very slim. I do know this for a fact because I researched my ass off at a point. And was refused a couple of jobs after interviews.
So please give the OP a break. He is just telling people not to go with that mind set to the UK. THEY WILL MOST LIKELY NOT GET JOBS!!!

BossLaifay:
About 1 in 200? Seriously? Is that what you classify as opportunity? Even when ur course is on the shortage skill list? No "guarantees"? That's not what I call opportunity Mr.
Opportunity is being given a pathway to stay for a couple of years to get some experience before returning home (if you wish). Equal opportunity that is not hinged on employers sponsoring you. But what do I know? When gurus like you have the answers to everything

No its not 1 in 200 and there is nothing like equal opportunity when you are holding a visa, that visa has rules and regulations.

British citizens are not guaranteed a job after graduation so why are you expecting foreign students to be given one?

Why are you demanding or expecting equal opportunity from a foreign govt and not from Nigerian govt?

..and to your last part.. yes i have answer to everything deal with that.

justwise:


No its not 1 in 200 and there is nothing like equal opportunity when you are holding a visa, that visa has rules and regulations.

British citizens are not guaranteed a job after graduation so why are you expecting foreign students to be given one?

Why are you demanding or expecting equal opportunity from a foreign govt and not from Nigerian govt?

..and to your last part.. yes i have answer to everything deal with that.

Guru Baba! I hail o! But no one is asking the govt for jobs! But the opportunity to stay for a while and hustle jobs on ur own with out the sponsorship clause! Abi don't u get it?

BossLaifay:
Guru Baba! I hail o! But no one is asking the govt for jobs! But the opportunity to stay for a while and hustle jobs on ur own with out the sponsorship clause! Abi don't u get it?

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erico2k2:

Bross let me add this, the fact that you Must go home after school is equally listed as one of the conditions to study here, so after school what next?

And you are? Who invited you to this conversation?

BossLaifay:
And you are? Who invited you to this conversation?

And there was a GUN pointed at ur head to respond right?

BossLaifay:
Guru Baba! I hail o! But no one is asking the govt for jobs! But the opportunity to stay for a while and hustle jobs on ur own with out the sponsorship clause! Abi don't u get it?

I don't.

BossLaifay:
Lets not all come here and deceive ourselves. The truth of the matter is the chances of getting a job are slim. The truth is majority of people going to study in the UK (or anywhere for that matter) hope to get the opportunity to get some experience after school and possibly remain as a legal immigrant. But in the UK that is hinged on a sponsor and trust me its very very slim. I do know this for a fact because I researched my ass off at a point. And was refused a couple of jobs after interviews.
So please give the OP a break. He is just telling people not to go with that mind set to the UK. THEY WILL MOST LIKELY NOT GET JOBS!!!

Study in Nigeria where you are guaranteed a job after graduation.

ubox:

What about Architecture, I'm considering sponsoring somebody

Trust me, its an absolute waste of money. Go to the US/Canada/Australia where you can get a stay to look for job.

justwise:


A very close friend with less than 3yrs experience was able to get a job with Barclays bank in their IT department, she got her first job before the current one with absolutely no experience in IT field apart from her Msc qualification.

You don't generalize, foreign students do get a job after graduation in the UK.

. Don't misinform people. Only 1 out of 800 foreign student will get a job that can sponsor their visa. VERY FEW PEOPLE GET A JOB. After your masters you have about 3/4 months before your visa expiration which of course is not renewable except you get someone to marry so how can you get a job when you have to leave almost immediately? UK MASTERS NA WASTE OF MONEY