Pissful useless religion

tintingz:
I find muslim women covering thier face offensive.

A lady dressing nude or dress all covered up is no one business, they have their right, it's their business when she wants apply for a job that has a dress code.

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Who cares about whatever is offensive to you? if Nigerian Constitution states freedom of religion then who are you to state otherwise?
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And I already stated that under the job part above.

Rashduct4luv:

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Who cares about whatever is offensive to you? if Nigerian Constitution states freedom of religion then who are you to state otherwise?

Non muslims cares, Nigeria constitution should do something about that face covering thing in public just like France did.

And I already stated that under the job part above.

So where's the discrimination here?

You will be going up and down calling people kuffar and you think they will like you ?

tintingz:
> There are bad eggs among muslims = Fact!

> Majority muslims behavior and reasoning are archaic = Fact!

> The media are involve = Fact!

So tell me where my post is a bigoted statement?

So how is that a fact? Have you collected data from >=51% of Muslims worldwide? If you can not circumvent real facts I'm going to assume you are echoing bigoted statements.

All you are doing is stating your opinion, and a bigoted one at that.

jerflakes:
Pissful useless religion

Typical bigot

Fulaman198:


So how is that a fact? Have you collected data from >=51% of Muslims worldwide? If you can not circumvent real facts I'm going to assume you are echoing bigoted statements.

All you are doing is stating your opinion, and a bigoted one at that.

Is the Quran and hadith (Sharia) not filled with archaic practices?

I used majority because they are more of the higer side that hold the sharia strongly, there are some few muslims that reject some sharia practices.

tintingz:
Is the Quran and hadith (Sharia) not filled with archaic practices?

I used majority because they are more of the higer side that hold the sharia strongly, there are some few muslims that reject some sharia practices.

Again, have you met >= 51% of Muslim people worldwide, if you have not, then you do not have a basis for your statement. As a scientist would say, your statements are hearsay, pure opinion and scientifically unproven.

In regards to your first question, that is personal opinion once again. Archaic Practises is something you personally would consider archaic, however another individual may not consider it archaic. Do Muslims completely follow the Qu'ran? No. Do you completely transcribe and follow everything in whatever religious affiliation you belong to? No. Human beings are not perfect, in fact they are the complete opposite.

However, from what I can surmise, you sound agnostic, as the Bible also follows "archaic practises".

Fulaman198:


Again, have you met >= 51% of Muslim people worldwide, if you have not, then you do not have a basis for your statement. As a scientist would say, your statements are hearsay, pure opinion and scientifically unproven.

Of cos my statement may sound fallacious to you but it is the fact, majority muslims behave and reason archaic.

E.g Wearing of face veil is archaic an old practice, beating and stoning adulterers is archaic, killing apostate is archaic, bowing to a God etc.

All what I stated above are what majority muslims believe in, there is no dispute in it.

In regards to your first question, that is personal opinion once again. Archaic Practises is something you personally would consider archaic, however another individual may not consider it archaic. Do Muslims completely follow the Qu'ran? No. Do you completely transcribe and follow everything in whatever religious affiliation you belong to? No. Human beings are not perfect, in fact they are the complete opposite.

However, from what I can surmise, you sound agnostic, as the Bible also follows "archaic practises".

I'm not a religious person, I don't believe in any dogmas.

Do you know what "archaic" means? The Quran and hadiths are filled with ancients practices and laws, many things you believe and practice from it are archaic, the laws in the Quran can not be changed nor updated.

tintingz:
Of cos my statement may sound fallacious to you but it is the fact, majority muslims behave and reason archaic.

E.g Wearing of face veil is archaic an old practice, beating and stoning adulterers is archaic, killing apostate is archaic, bowing to a God etc.

All what I stated above are what majority muslims believe in, there is no dispute in it.

I'm not a religious person, I don't believe in any dogmas.

Do you know what "archaic" means? The Quran and hadiths are filled with ancients practices and laws, many things you believe and practice from it are archaic, the laws in the Quran can not be changed nor updated.

Wearing a facial veil (Hijab) is not necessarily archaic as the intention of it is for a woman to practise a form of conservatism and moderation. I do agree though that Beating and stoning people is archaic. Killing is archaic, but in the Qu'ran, it clearly says that killing is wrong.

Bowing to God is a personal choice, I feel that it is unfair of you to judge the beliefs of others. If you yourself feel that bowing to a higher power is archaic, then fine, so be it! However, let people practise their respective views whilst you practise your own.

As I stated earlier, have you come across >=51% Muslims? No, you have not. Not all Muslims have the same thought process and not all Muslims practise Islam the same way. External cultural influences and individual personalities alter the mean/way everyone practices Islam.

I know what archaic means, it's another way of saying "antiquated" or "outdated". As aforementioned, your definition of archaic is not Universal as not everyone shares your beliefs.

You have a right to be agnostic or not religious, I respect that! However, you do not have a right to say that 1.2 billion people or the majority of 1.2 billion people are archaic.

Fulaman198:


Wearing a facial veil (Hijab) is not necessarily archaic as the intention of it is for a woman to practise a form of conservatism and moderation. I do agree though that Beating and stoning people is archaic. Killing is archaic, but in the Qu'ran, it clearly says that killing is wrong.

Bowing to God is a personal choice, I feel that it is unfair of you to judge the beliefs of others. If you yourself feel that bowing to a higher power is archaic, then fine, so be it! However, let people practise their respective views whilst you practise your own.

As I stated earlier, have you come across >=51% Muslims? No, you have not. Not all Muslims have the same thought process and not all Muslims practise Islam the same way. External cultural influences and individual personalities alter the mean/way everyone practices Islam.

I know what archaic means, it's another way of saying "antiquated" or "outdated". As aforementioned, your definition of archaic is not Universal as not everyone shares your beliefs.

You have a right to be agnostic or not religious, I respect that! However, you do not have a right to say that 1.2 billion people or the majority of 1.2 billion people are archaic.

I don't need to argue much, the nature of many practice in Islam are archaic and can not be updated nor thrown away, it's a big sin in the religion.

Not all Muslims believe in sharia I've stated that ealier but majority of Muslims believe in what I mentioned which can be found in the Quran and hadiths except you want to tell me majority muslims don't believe in the sharia?

Assalam alaikum Fulaman198

You don't need argue with him. Almost everyone knows him. It's like he left Islam and isn't able to leave Muslims. He will always have something to reply whether relevant or not. He claims to be a Pastafarian worshipping the Flying Spagheti Mosnster. So he's looking for flocks to call to his religion.
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Their book, the gospel of Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) (that was released by Bobby Henderson, a 25 year old Oregon State University physics graduate, in March 28, 2006) is updated unlike the Qur'an!
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I wonder what specious reasoning and circular logic is in the fact that .... "the Flying Spaghetti Monster overindulged in beer from the beer volcano and woke up hungover".

Actually some wanted to be wiser but ended up in extreme folly!

Rashduct4luv:
Assalam alaikum Fulaman198

You don't need argue with him. Almost everyone knows him. It's like he left Islam and isn't able to leave Muslims. He will always have something to reply whether relevant or not. He claims to be a Pastafarian worshipping the Flying Spagheti Mosnster. So he's looking for flocks to call to his religion.
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Their book, the gospel of Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) (that was released by Bobby Henderson, a 25 year old Oregon State University physics graduate, in March 28, 2006) is updated unlike the Qur'an!
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I wonder what specious reasoning and circular logic is in the fact that .... "the Flying Spaghetti Monster overindulged in beer from the beer volcano and woke up hungover".

Actually some wanted to be wiser but ended up in extreme folly!

First of all I'm an atheist, Pastafarianism is a parody religion to mock religious beliefs and show how absurdity they sounds in believing in religious dogmas, superstitions. I've said this to you many times.

And what's wrong with a God drinking alcohol, atleast FSM is a honest God that said he created everything without having reasons for it, did Allah have reasons for creating the universe, living things except for worshipping him daily and throwing people inside hell for his faults? What kind of God is that? How do you want me to worship that kinda God?

FSM is a God that works with time, your God words are stuck to ancient times, there are older Gods before your God.

tintingz:
First of all I'm an atheist, Pastafarianism is a parody religion to mock religious beliefs and show how absurdity they sounds in believing in religious dogmas, superstitions. I've said this to you many times.

And what's wrong with a God drinking alcohol, atleast FSM is an honest God that said he created everything without having reasons for it, did Allah have reasons for creating the universe, living things except for worshipping him daily and throwing people inside hell for his faults? What kind of God is that? How do you want me to worship that kinda God?

FSM is a God that works with time, your God is stuck to ancient times, there are older Gods before your God.

Is there any evidence that FSM logically exist? And who suggests his name? We should be mocking you for your god drank wine and had an hangover!
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Pls enough of derailing the thread!

Rashduct4luv:


Is there any evidence that FSM logically exist? And who suggests his name? We should be mocking you for your god drank wine and had an hangover!
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Pls enough of derailing the thread!

Same question should be ask, is there any evidence Allah logically exist?

No, you should be ashamed the Quran is filled with ancients-cultural myths, your God throne was floating on an imaginary water.

You are the one derailing your thread!

Islam in itself is discriminatory to women.

Women can be taken as sex slaves in Islam and raped at will. If Allah can see it as important to make sure to ban muslims from taking pork meat and alcohol, he could have also deemed it fit to ban slavery instead he encouraged people to have sex with women captured in war regardless of whether those women were single or married. Allah has permitted intimacy with a slave woman if the man owns her. Why would Allah allow women to be owned? Are we objects??
Evidence:
Quran 4:3 And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Those that your right hand possses here means women slaves and captives of war.

Hadith 3.718 : I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interrupts. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Bani Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come into existence."
Here, the prophet is basically telling them to go ahead and have slaves with the captives and even ejaculate into them. He discouraged coitus interruptus and told them to go ahead.
Link to confirm this: https://islamqa.info/en/20802

It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Umar that the Messenger of Allah observed:

O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sens[/b]e, and you spend [b]some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion.

We lack common sense because the evidence of one man equals that of two women , a ruling made by Muhammed himself and we also fail in religion cause we cant pray and fast while menstruating, another ruling made by same Muhammed.

Fulaman198:


Wearing a facial veil (Hijab) is not necessarily archaic as the intention of it is for a woman to practise a form of conservatism and moderation. I do agree though that Beating and stoning people is archaic. Killing is archaic, but in the Qu'ran, it clearly says that killing is wrong.

Bowing to God is a personal choice, I feel that it is unfair of you to judge the beliefs of others. If you yourself feel that bowing to a higher power is archaic, then fine, so be it! However, let people practise their respective views whilst you practise your own.

As I stated earlier, have you come across >=51% Muslims? No, you have not. Not all Muslims have the same thought process and not all Muslims practise Islam the same way. External cultural influences and individual personalities alter the mean/way everyone practices Islam.

I know what archaic means, it's another way of saying "antiquated" or "outdated". As aforementioned, your definition of archaic is not Universal as not everyone shares your beliefs.

You have a right to be agnostic or not religious, I respect that! However, you do not have a right to say that 1.2 billion people or the majority of 1.2 billion people are archaic.

Killing apostates is right to Allah. Killing gays is right to Allah. Killing infidels is right to Allah.
Have you read those religious rulings before?

Fulaman198:


So how is that a fact? Have you collected data from >=51% of Muslims worldwide? If you can not circumvent real facts I'm going to assume you are echoing bigoted statements.

All you are doing is stating your opinion, and a bigoted one at that.

Shut up, just hear ursef, u r finding fact, when u insult xtians do u conduct statistics... U say kuran condemns picture taking, and u stringly accept it yet u have passport n ID... Sit down n reason ur koran very well and be called a human being for once... Thank You Jesus am already in a logical and compassionate religion. Being a Christian alone is more than everything.

Fulaman198:


Typical bigot

Oh no y'all are the bigots... All ur jealousy and anger can never make u people world power, sit down and think about darling

Rashduct4luv:


Exactly, i wonder wetin concern them. When you dress nude about and someone decided to cover up then you say you are feeling oppressed! What? I think it's shear insanity for a lady in tight fittings or exposed body parts to feel oppressed by a lady totally covered in Hijab!

You sound like a terrorist
*Military or paramilitary men shaves their hairs/beards because that is the easiest form of identification except those in Intelligence department
*Work place is not a place of religion,if you must practice your faith be modest
Oga,In Turkey,Morocco,Tunisia, Algeria scarfs are nor allowed in public places

SIONKPO1:

You sound like a terrorist

Attention Mods!

SIONKPO1:
*Military or paramilitary men shaves their hairs/beards because that is the easiest form of identification except those in Intelligence department.
*Work place is not a place of religion,if you must practice your faith be modest
Oga,In Turkey,Morocco,Tunisia, Algeria scarfs are nor allowed in public places

Actually there's freedom of religion in Nigeria. Hijab is part of Islam and no one can remove it. Nigeria is a separate entity different from all those country you mentioned. Work place is still in Nigeria and still subject to Nigerian laws.

And of what use is the shaving of beards?

Rashduct4luv:


Attention Mods!



Actually there's freedom of religion in Nigeria. Hijab is part of Islam and no one can remove it. Nigeria is a separate entity different from all those country you mentioned. Work place is still in Nigeria and still subject to Nigerian laws.

And of what use is the shaving of beards?

Nobody is removing hijab,but boy you need to travel to north Africa or turkey,
Whenever you are at your work place you should be modest in your religious practice

Rashduct4luv:


Attention Mods!





And of what use is the shaving of beards?

Every work place has its own ethics
You report me to the mods but you are inciting violence by telling your likemind to put religion first before work
Hypocrite,you really need to grow up

Rashduct4luv:


Attention Mods!



Actually there's freedom of religion in Nigeria. Hijab is part of Islam and no one can remove it. Nigeria is a separate entity different from all those country you mentioned. Work place is still in Nigeria and still subject to Nigerian laws.

And of what use is the shaving of beards?

But you openly ban the sale of Alcohol and pigs in your Environment but share from the V.A.T collected

SIONKPO1:

But you openly ban the sale of Alcohol and pigs in your Environment but share from the V.A.T collected

Why can't you advise the govt on this instead of telling me?

I am in Lagos so what are you saying?

SIONKPO1:

Every work place has its own ethics
You report me to the mods but you are inciting violence by telling your likemind to put religion first before work
Hypocrite,you really need to grow up

Where did i incite violence? Beard and Hijab doesn't affect work in any way!

You too need to accept other religion for who they are! Our Ladies can't copy yours in nudity!
And we won't live by your standard. We will live by our own standard regardless of your thoughts.

SIONKPO1:

Nobody is removing hijab,but boy you need to travel to north Africa or turkey,
Whenever you are at your work place you should be modest in your religious practice

Are you to define how i dress at work for me?

What right do you have?

Rashduct4luv:

Are you to define how i dress at work for me?
What right do you have?

If I employ you boy even banks gives dress codes place of biz is not place for religion

Rashduct4luv:


Where did i incite violence? Beard and Hijab doesn't affect work in any way!

You too need to accept other religion for who they are! Our Ladies can't copy yours in nudity!
And we won't live by your standard. We will live by our own standard regardless of your thoughts.

I detest nudity,but your ladies in tertiary institutions commits fornication with burga

Rashduct4luv:


Why can't you advise the govt on this instead of telling me?

I am in Lagos so what are you saying?

most northern states ban the sale of alcohol but they sneak to brew and even take codeine,tramadol and lexotan
And the funny thing is they don't reject proceeds from taxes collected

Rashduct4luv:


Are you to define how i dress at work for me?

What right do you have?

Bro, this your op is filled with hypocrisy and ignorance


There are many muslims in Lagos and Ogun state that work with hijab. Burka is rare because no one will employ you without seeing your face, especially if you are dealing with both clients and or employees daily.

As for the jumping trousers, no one will stop you from looking like micheal Jackson. In fact, skinny jumping trousers is en vogue right now among both muslim and non-Muslim youth.

Is there discrimination against muslims in secular climes? Yes. Many christian managers will not employ over-serious muslims, especially in jobs that need some cool down party time.

However, the discrimination that non muslims face in sharia states is 10 times worse. Non muslim women cannot wear pencil trousers and free their hair in many places in the north. If you are not a muslim, there are many jobs you wont get. If you dont have a beard and you greet "good morning" instead of "salaam", you are going nowhere fast.

In fact, you cannot eat when muslims are fasting. You must eat in hiding. You cannot toast a muslim woman as anon muslim man or risk lynching.

Oga, stop this hypocrisy