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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by 0monnak0da: 11:48am On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


I was referring to the south east and not the entire south, hence my reference to his ilk.

Only an insincere hack would say the ENTIRE south is militarily irrelevant, and that point is buttressed by the correction I made to his fraudulent list.
I am Yoruba and I do not accept what you are saying .The configuration of security appointments is wrong and that is why people mix up unrelated issues like Unity Schools.
Obasanjo did not do that . Even Jonathan who was bad was not as brazen

You say that Nigeria has an education problem? Yes Who has been running this country ? The North. The North do not value education as we do in the south but prefer to use so called population and military to dominate the country. Under such an environment is it any surprise that education is deemphasized when an average Northerner knows all he needs to do is complete university and he can head NNPC even if he studied Arabic or Islam.

Now here you are talking about Sanusi as renowned Banker.

One question how is he more renowned than any other CBN governor in our history even than Adamu Ciroma? Both of these are people who got there because of where they come from rather than on merit.

Sanusi was loud and attention seeking but there iss nothing tangible we can point to today.
He politicized the office because by nature he is an attention seeker. He was disgraced out of office and went to court but quietly withdrew the case.Why?
The same man who took the unprecedented action as CBN governor donating money? I have never heard of a CBN governor donating money anywhere. In this case he was donating money to his home state.

You see the standards you hold in the North are very different from what we hold otherwise you won't talk of Sanusi as a person worth celebrating

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by bamoski(m): 11:48am On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:


Ask your "angelic and saintly" tribe why NNPC, customs, immigration, police, army, DSS, NDLEA, EFCC are filled with it?

Quota system illiterates everywhere...

What we are saying is that the same principle should be used everywhere in the system..

It is only logical that you can not hand someone who has tried to stab you before a knife to protect you while you are at sleep.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by mercyville: 11:48am On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Your personal attacks simply betray your frustration grin

Where is the Yoruba Chief of Defence Staff on that list?

Chief of naval staff?

I don't deal with slow, ignorant and insincere victim players.
Oh my!I do not usually attack Hausa/Fulani because they mostly do not attack us but you goofed here,sir.We are talking about the security of a multi-tribal nation like ours and we have only one each from two different geo political zones leaving a major tribe,the Igbos(flat table heads) out altogether and having about more than a dozen from one geo political zone(which is yours) in and you think it is normal,fair?

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by QuotaSystem: 11:59am On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:

Mention any tier one bank owned by your region (19 states). Your richest man dwells on loans from banks owned by people from other region. You should be reminded of that.

What makes your brand of ignorance extremely lethal and potentially fatal, is that you do not learn even if knowledge is spoon fed into your brain. You simply don't learn.

I remember you asked this same dumb question a few weeks ago, and I enlightened you but you went away without learning anything.

Let me rejog your memory if humanly possible;


Stingman:

How many tier 1 banks are ownd by the norrtherners, who pride themselevs with 19 states and huge land mass?

QuotaSystem:


First of all, practically all banks in the country are owned by the public i.e shareholders, therefore none can be said to be owned by a single individual...an individual can only have majority shareholding.

However before recapitalisation which made most banks go public, Bank of the North (now Unity bank), Habib Bank (Keystone Bank) and Gamji Bank are some of the banks indigenous to the north.

Post-recapitalisation, Jaiz Bank is the most prominent northern-founded bank.

Don't ask me any more dumb, ignorant, repeated questions angry
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by 0monnak0da: 12:02pm On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Your personal attacks simply betray your frustration grin

Where is the Yoruba Chief of Defence Staff on that list?

Chief of naval staff?

I don't deal with slow, ignorant and insincere victim players.

Where are the Christians? The Traditionalists? THe TIvs,The Jukuns,The Kwarans The Berom . The only thing that this sort of thing guarantees is the inevitability of our break up. Cornering all those positions cannot hold us together by force .Ask Sudan.

It is that sort of behaviour that makes Ohanaeze cry out against Unity schools even when that is a relative non issue.
There is the concept of moral hazard in the north. If you are a Musli Northerner there is no need to strive because quota will take care of you.If you get a Phd then you are exceptional but we cannot have quota system at that level and ake progress
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Alexk2(m): 12:11pm On Mar 13, 2018
No need to go sentimental over everything now. the question that should be answered is; are they giving the quotas that belongs to Anambra to Katsina? When you cross-check the overall candidate list entering our unity schools yearly, you'll discover that over northern brothers are far behind despite this so-called ridiculous cut off mark. The cut-off mark isn't in any way shortchanging the south pls.
I'm interested in seeing a significant increase in the literacy level in the north as the solution to the numerous violence all over the place.
We love bringing sentiment into everything in this country.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Chukazu: 12:24pm On Mar 13, 2018
"You can not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong"

Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by connkg(m): 12:33pm On Mar 13, 2018
It is disheartening to see the true picture of (supposed) compatriots.
In its current form, Quota System, all the way to Federal Character prove that there is a problem which has not been addressed.
Culture is what should be exchanged for unity sake. Bringing in "advantaged" and "disadvantaged" on the basis of origin is unfit and improper. It is almost racial.
When there is such an abuse, it is poor going to argue that one can then sit in a 'Blacks Only' bus; afterall, the 'Whites Only' was labelled as such.
It has gone on too long to reason that the parent was "advantaged".
There is also no excuse for one child to be put upon to deliver better than another, if they both had absentee teachers (for example) because he/she is from a particular State.
Is it that parents from one State have a higher IQ or what?
It is also lopsided to pretend to encourage merit (funded by the general public) by sitting for merit-based term tests and sessional exams, when same merit is sacrificed in entrance requirements. Private, faith-based schools also encourage a form of culture, even in entry requirements. They do not sacrifice merit for State-of-origin in this same country.
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 12:34pm On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Lmao the typical ibo delusion of grandeur in full display grin

My friend, just thank your stars for the anonymity that the Internet provides you with, and enjoy it.

Now bugger off child smiley

The best you can ever have is working in the cash cow NNPC with loads of loot, old man...like Maina of pension commission.

That's all..

...and the poor rankings given to us by your superior military and political relevancy?

You jump over that the you would jump over BH mine in the NE....

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Chukazu: 12:34pm On Mar 13, 2018
Alexk2:
No need to go sentimental over everything now. the question that should be answered is; are they giving the quotas that belongs to Anambra to Katsina? When you cross-check the overall candidate list entering our unity schools yearly, you'll discover that over northern brothers are far behind despite this so-called ridiculous cut off mark. The cut-off mark isn't in any way shortchanging the south pls.
I'm interested in seeing a significant increase in the literacy level in the north as the solution to the numerous violence all over the place.
We love bringing sentiment into everything in this country.

In that case it will be just to increase the slot allotted the states with the highest cut off.

There are better things we can do to increase overall access and interest for education...not the way FG is going about it

If some people don't want to go to school, you don't force it .
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 12:37pm On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


What makes your brand of ignorance extremely lethal and potentially fatal, is that you do not learn even if knowledge is spoon fed into your brain. You simply don't learn.

I remember you asked this same dumb question a few weeks ago, and I enlightened you but you went away without learning anything.

Let me rejog your memory if humanly possible;








Don't ask me any more dumb, ignorant, repeated questions angry

Abooki are those tier one banks?

Your illiteracy is the worse form I have ever seen.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 12:41pm On Mar 13, 2018
bamoski:


It is only logical that you can not hand someone who has tried to stab you before a knife to protect you while you are at sleep.

Stale and useless.
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by QuotaSystem: 12:48pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:


Abooki are those tier one banks?

Your illiteracy is the worse form I have ever seen.

Lmao see what I was saying? Complete impenetrability that skull of yours grin.

Could it be so difficult to understand that no single individual "owns" any bank? Or that tier rating is subject to several metrics?

Dude grab a book please and avoid my mentions Biko smiley


QuotaSystem:
Don't ask me any more dumb, ignorant, repeated questions angry
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Firstpage: 12:49pm On Mar 13, 2018
mercyville:


Don't you think quota system is harming everyone taking into cognisance that some of these quota system products may eventually become leaders and it even makes the Northeners complacent. I think it is high time this system is revisited.If it were not for the killing spirit in the Hausa/Fulani,I really pity them too but they have really affected Nigeria negatively, if I must say.

Do you realize that quota system is practiced by uefa and FIFA?

why would Panama be in the world cup at the expense of Italy?

why would Besiktas be in the champions league at the expense of Arsenal?

answer: quota system.

You ibos should learn to live in peace with others and not put greed into everything.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Firstpage: 12:50pm On Mar 13, 2018
Chukazu:


In that case it will be just to increase the slot allotted the states with the highest cut off.

There are better things we can do to increase overall access and interest for education...not the way FG is going about it

If some people don't want to go to school, you don't force it .

Firstpage:


Do you realize that quota system is practiced by uefa and FIFA?

why would Panama be in the world cup at the expense of Italy?

why would Besiktas be in the champions league at the expense of Arsenal?

answer: quota system.

You ibos should learn to live in peace with others and not put greed into everything.
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by bamoski(m): 12:51pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:


Stale and useless.

Go an die
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 12:56pm On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Lmao see what I was saying? Complete impenetrability that skull of yours grin.

Could it be so difficult to understand that no single individual "owns" any bank? Or that tier rating is subject to several metrics?

Dude grab a book please and avoid my mentions Biko smiley

Just listen to yourself...Since we started this conversation...I have never been in doubt as to how far you have been enlighthened...Going to ABU with quota system...and getting automatic employment in NNPC doesn't mean you have seen everything...For me, though I have better qualification and attended a better school, I can't go anywhere near NNPC...But I can compete in the global arena...like my brothers and sisters in World bank, International investment banks, Goldman Sac, JP Morgan, Microsoft, IBM, Shell, Mobil..

These two are World bank executives...

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 12:57pm On Mar 13, 2018
bamoski:


Go an die

Like in Borno, Taraba, Yobe, Adamawa and in Benue?

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by QuotaSystem: 1:00pm On Mar 13, 2018
Chukazu:
"You can not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong"

Abraham Lincoln

Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 1:02pm On Mar 13, 2018
Firstpage:



You don't get it...

We are for justice.

There is nothing wrong in giving advantage to those who are behind...but we are saying that this principle should apply to all sectors..like giving the easterners opportuinity to meet the north in the military and paramilitary sectors as well.

Is this wrong?
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Chukazu: 1:06pm On Mar 13, 2018
Firstpage:



Quota system by EUAFA actually works in the opposite of the discuss.

The teams from countries that perform better in competitions are rewarded with extra slots.

For example ITALY had for the past four years ,3 clubs representing it in the Champions league, while the likes of England, Spain and Germany had four.

That is because Italian clubs were doing badly in the competition.
So their's is a reward system for extra motivation

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by bamoski(m): 1:08pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:


Like in Borno, Taraba, Yobe, Adamawa and in Benue?

Like anambra, aba, enugu and owerri
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Chukazu: 1:11pm On Mar 13, 2018
QuotaSystem:


You are actually the one believing everything you read on the internet... because I can bet my middle finger that "Abraham Lincoln" didn't make that statement cool

You know why?... there was nothing like the internet when Abraham Lincoln was alive . Lincoln is my hero and I sure know certain truth about him cool

Try harder ...

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by joudini(m): 1:12pm On Mar 13, 2018
Chukazu:


Quota system by EUAFA actually works in the opposite of the discuss.

The teams from countries that perform better in competitions are rewarded with extra slots.

For example ITALY had for the past four years ,3 clubs representing it in the Champions league, while the likes of England, Spain and Germany had four.

That is because Italian clubs were doing badly in the competition.
So their's is a reward system for extra motivation

You should have ignored that clown. The filth is even using as an example a system that rewards merit by expanding the number of eligible participants.

That is why I do not reward these filths by responding to their mentions. They are illogical.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Stingman: 1:14pm On Mar 13, 2018
bamoski:


Like anambra, aba, enugu and owerri


Violent death : 1,351 killed in 10 weeks:

North-East remains the killing field with 591 deaths.
It is followed by North-Central, 270;
North-West, 193;
South-West, 136; and
South-South, 131. At the bottom of the list is
South-East, 30.


https://www.nairaland.com/4392086/violent-deaths-1351-killed-10

cool cool cool

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Firstpage: 1:15pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:


You don't get it...

We are for justice.

There is nothing wrong in giving advantage to those who are behind...but we are saying that this principle should apply to all sectors..like giving the easterners opportuinity to meet the north in the military and paramilitary sectors as well.

Is this wrong?

In military admission, or federal government recruitment that I know, all states are giving slots based on their population. That's quota system too.

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Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by QuotaSystem: 1:15pm On Mar 13, 2018
Chukazu:


You are actually the one believing everything you read on the internet... because I can bet my middle finger that "Abraham Lincoln" didn't make that statement cool

You know why?... there was nothing like the internet when Abraham Lincoln was alive . Lincoln is my hero and I sure know certain truth about him cool

You missed the sarcasm.

The irony is the whole point of that meme.
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by 0monnak0da: 1:16pm On Mar 13, 2018
connkg:
It is disheartening to see the true picture of (supposed) compatriots.
In its current form, Quota System, all the way to Federal Character prove that there is a problem which has not been addressed.
Culture is what should be exchanged for unity sake. Bringing in "advantaged" and "disadvantaged" on the basis of origin is unfit and improper. It is almost racial.
When there is such an abuse, it is poor going to argue that one can then sit in a 'Blacks Only' bus; afterall, the 'Whites Only' was labelled as such.
It has gone on too long to reason that the parent was "advantaged".
There is also no excuse for one child to be put upon to deliver better than another, if they both had absentee teachers (for example) because he/she is from a particular State.
Is it that parents from one State have a higher IQ or what?
It is also lopsided to pretend to encourage merit (funded by the general public) by sitting for merit-based term tests and sessional exams, when same merit is sacrificed in entrance requirements. Private, faith-based schools also encourage a form of culture, even in entry requirements. They do not sacrifice merit for State-of-origin in this same country.

The logical problem with your submission is this:

You should be argung that the schools should be scrapped.

Unity schools are not the mechanism for providing secondary school education for the majority of pupils as this also is not within the purview of the Federal governent.
Secondary school education is a state goverment function.

In our wisdom we decided decades ago to have Unity schools and the terms of engagementt were clear from the outset. To start bringing in emotive arguments like one child putting another dow is churlish.
The shools are set up fundamentally on a quota syste philosophy to foster unity. If we disagree with that premise then scrap them. They were never intended as centres of excellence for our brightest and best but as a means of National Integration.
The financial argument is that if the schools were scrapped the money would and should be shared equally to all the states. It is not by any means a meritocracy. The Unity schools have a small quota for National Merit and that quota woul from the figures I see entirely be taken by southern states.There is no cut off mark for the National Merit quota on a state by state basis.

The thing is National Merit as it is called exists but it is a minority percentage so people can debate what is the optimaal level for National Merit

Next is n environmental quota to provide for the Host state and neighbouring states and then the State quota.

So For example State quota may be 60 or 70 % . Environmental quota 20% and National Merit 10% .
.

The total slots of Unity school admissions is less than 0.01% of secondary school provision in Nigeria so there are many alternatives and at any rate these are the only National secondary schools. There is no oint for these schools to exist or Ohhanaeze states can opt out and ask for their share of the money to be given to them.


I am a full chamion of meritocracy and fights against destructive quotta systems but not for Unity schools.We should either scrrap them or allow uninterested states to opt out.

The reality is the Federal money that goes into these states cannot be appropriated for a few states no matter how clever the kids are. That simply is not the role of the FG.
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Firstpage: 1:17pm On Mar 13, 2018
Chukazu:


Quota system by EUAFA actually works in the opposite of the discuss.

The teams from countries that perform better in competitions are rewarded with extra slots.

For example ITALY had for the past four years ,3 clubs representing it in the Champions league, while the likes of England, Spain and Germany had four.

That is because Italian clubs were doing badly in the competition.
So their's is a reward system for extra motivation

So also admission into unity schools. Southerners are still far more than northerners in these schools. what else do you want?
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by bamoski(m): 1:17pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:



Violent death : 1,351 killed in 10 weeks:

North-East remains the killing field with 591 deaths.
It is followed by North-Central, 270;
North-West, 193;
South-West, 136; and
South-South, 131. At the bottom of the list is
South-East, 30.


https://www.nairaland.com/4392086/violent-deaths-1351-killed-10

cool cool cool

Rubbish statistics from the staples of radio biafra.

More people die from armed robbery attacks and kidnappings in the SE than other parts of the country except the NE
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by Firstpage: 1:18pm On Mar 13, 2018
Stingman:



Violent death : 1,351 killed in 10 weeks:

North-East remains the killing field with 591 deaths.
It is followed by North-Central, 270;
North-West, 193;
South-West, 136; and
South-South, 131. At the bottom of the list is
South-East, 30.


https://www.nairaland.com/4392086/violent-deaths-1351-killed-10

cool cool cool

In taht report, I see accidents in the south west counted as violent crimes. Like wtf?
Re: Ohanaeze Faults Fg’s Cut-off Mark Disparity In Unity Schools by QuotaSystem: 1:18pm On Mar 13, 2018
Firstpage:


In military admission, or federal government recruitment that I know, all states are giving slots based on their population. That's quota system too.

That's what I've been saying, QS also applies to recruitment into those military and paramilitary agencies...but it's like talking to a brick wall.

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