"Since 1951, the Igbo have chosen to ally with ‘the North’ against the Yoruba, and the Yoruba, have chosen to ally with ‘the North’ against the Igbo. The question is why have both groups decided to distrust each other since that time?

Given that Nigeria is not quite working, does it not make sense for the Igbo and the Yoruba to ally with each other politically against ‘the North,’ just once and see if Nigeria will have a different political outcome?"

READ MORE: http://www.newtribeng.com/opinions/igbo-v-yoruba-by-cheta-nwanze/?preview=true&frame-nonce=cd41eccca5

You already posted two men that ruined the fate of their region, mores Zik, who should have stepped down after gunning erroneously for Premier of someone else's region.

The problem is yoruba, not Igbo.

WhoRUDeceiving:
You already posted two men that ruined the fate of their region, mores Zik, who should have stepped down after gunning erroneously for Premier of someone else's region.

was there any law, then or now that prevents him from doing this?

The igbo and yoruba blame game is the reason Nigeria will never work. For some it is not even a blame game, it is a hate game

The only way the both tribes can sensibly unite is to put heads together and dissolve the unworkable zoo and save humanity from embarrasment of the lugardian zoogerian experiment that will never work.

Op, which kain fire you com dey light near petrol like dis? :/

thenewtribe:
"Since 1951, the Igbo have chosen to ally with ‘the North’ against the Yoruba, and the Yoruba, have chosen to ally with ‘the North’ against the Igbo. The question is why have both groups decided to distrust each other since that time?

Given that Nigeria is not quite working, does it not make sense for the Igbo and the Yoruba to ally with each other politically against ‘the North,’ just once and see if Nigeria will have a different political outcome?"

READ MORE: http://www.newtribeng.com/opinions/igbo-v-yoruba-by-cheta-nwanze/?preview=true&frame-nonce=cd41eccca5

Sorry, no, it does not make sense, because it's not realistic. If you doubt me, just remember that the part of your quote I've put in bold will not go away anytime soon. Furthermore, all three sides behave like ostriches when it comes to that part of your statement.

Unfortunately, yours truly does not have a solution, sorry once more.

Morals: My knowledge of the tribal compositions of the countries of the world, is limited. However, I have an informed guess that, Nigeria is about the only country in the world where the three major tribes are in about equal dominance. This means no single one of the three can go it alone without triggering a major conflict — even war.

The closest that can happen is that once any two of the three form an alliance, as in, the North+East at Independence or the North+South West in 2015, they:

(a) tend to hold onto such an alliance for as long as possible, or

(b) until one of the two in the alliance gets greedy, as with the 1966 coup followed by Gen. Ironsi's proclamation of a unitary government (which could not have held, given that there were three equally matched and strong regions,) or

(c) one becomes unfocused (Dr. Azikiwe struggling for the premiership of the West, thereby leaving the East barely attended to), or leaderless and factionalized (the West and Chiefs Awolowo vs Akintola shenanigans, or the East's ill-fated attempt at gobbling up the PDP via President Jonathan as proxy through 2015.)

My honest opinion? Like I wrote earlier, we're more likely to keep throdding along this way as a nation. Real development of the society will be relatively slow as a result, but there's not likely to be a radical solution such as a breakup.

'Nuf said, so I'll get off my soapbox now...

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Igbos and Yorubas come together?

Can a Fox and a Dog come together?

Despite having four legs snd looking similar, they simply do not trust one another.

Why would the North be united as one entity and then the south exits as Igbo and yoruba? The division between Igbos and Yorubas actually gave the North the influence and power they have today. As long as they don't come together as THE SOUTH to face THE NORTH tit for tat then they will both continue to be servants of the north. Nothing stops these two tribes from sitting down and ironing out things. But instead they both feel too proud to do so. Let them keep fooling themselves. But I think I will blame the Igbos more for this. Igbos are always feeling too big and too special that they think they can pocket Nigeria alone by themselves. Good luck to them trying to get the presidency

gidgiddy:
Igbos and Yorubas come together?

Can a Fox and a Dog come together?

Despite having four legs snd looking similar, they simply do not trust one another.

I think their politicians are the ones having the trust issues. I believe the common Yoruba man in the street will more likely tilt his support towards an Igbo man in an election against an Hausa man. And the ordinary Igbo man will also tilt his support for a Yoruba man against an Hausa.

The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

BankeSmalls:

was there any law, then or now that prevents him from doing this?

But there is a law against voting for AG?. Anyway make Igbos dey follow their lane no be BY FORCE to CO Operate jor

who will cooperate with this Igbo and foolish tribe calling themselve igbo or ibo.pls, no way joor

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

True.

Can darkness and light move together Yeebos led this country into the mess she is now.
We all are still suffering from the treachery of the yeebos in the First republic.

I only pity the naive Yorubas. People like Adewale Ademoyega and Victor Banjo. Ademoyega thought he was partaking in a revolution. Ifeajuna tipped his uncle ( zik) off and zik was on an endless trip in the Caribbean. The PM was murdered in cold blood . Sardauna, Akintola and Okotie Eboh were murdered. Top millitary men and police officers from the North and West were murdered too. The Easterners didnt touch anyone from their own region.

Interestingly, the so called ruling party/team in the first republic was formed by the Northern NPC and Eastern NCNC. That's ibo sense for you.

The hate between Yorubas and yeebos is real and mutual. The mumu yeebos were the most vocal against the bill to give Lagos a special status.
They dont want a special status for Lagos and on the other hand , they claim its a no mans land. The aggressive Yorubanization of south west is in progress and there's no going back .

As far as I am concerned, the Yeebos are as terrible as their counterparts from the far North. They both possess extremist idealogies that is not and can never be in tandem with the omoluabi philosophy.

Conclusively, God willing, in the nearest future Yorubaland will be fenced and all the leeches in our land deported back to their god forsaken lands.

brothers the problem here are those fake yeroba people THE YEROBA MUSLIMS, these people are the problem of the world and the good people of yerobas
they see fulanis and hausa as their brothers more than their fellow yeroba Christians.
these people (yeroba Muslims) are not real yerobas but imigrants from futa jalon that settled in SW and yeroba land.
their mission is to cause trouble and disunite the south and promote northern agenda.

make no mistake igbos loves yeroba but hates and can never associate with yeroba Muslims.

have you ever wondered why they hate Fayose that single handedly defeated fulani herdsmen in ekiti but worship Tinubu that never for once speak against fulani herdsmen.
they support fulani herdsmen even when they abused their elder (olu falae)
they support Buhari irrespective of his gross incompetence.
see the problem here are yeroba Muslims and not original yerobas.

Nnamdi Kanu and his Ipob was a grand opportunity for the yorubas and entire south to at least drag the parasitic and conservative north and rest of naija to the round table to iron out foundational and fundamental issues regarding the nation,to really negotiate our nationhood buh what happened,the yorubas were the loudest in fighting and calling for the destruction of Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob. When the kangaroo fed govt pronounced Ipob a terror organisation,it suddenly became a thing of great joy and celebration in the sw. It became more important than the life and times of Awolowo.
Hausas/fulani have taken over virtually all fg job in the army,navy,airforce,immigration,customs,nimasa,ports and even the seas in Lagos but yoruba ppl careless,they are more concerned about chinedu and ogbonna and the 2by2 spareparts shop,they are more busy about gala and fanyogo hawkers and ekenedili chukwu buses..
What a ppl

btw,i am neither Igbo or Yoruba. Infact,my state have history with the Yorubas.

It is not a case of Yoruba VS Igbo or Igbo VS Yoruba, what is at hand is a problem of Yoruba & Hausa VS Igbo.

The early political and military History of Nigeria shows the Igbo have a superiority complex running concurrently with an almost genetic clannish behaviour.

Throughout the early History of Nigeria till now, the Igbos have been known to have never worked within the bounds of ‘partnership’ or respect ‘equality in differences’.

The Igbo wants to hijack your partnership with them and put himself or herself in charge and also discard the equality in differences and wanting things to go his/her way only.

Several important factors in Nigerian history indicate these characteristics of the Igbo:

- The early nationalist movements in Nigeria. Specifically how they brought tribalism into NYM which stalled the advancement of NYM during the period.

- The constitutional conferences before independence which Igbos on several fronts made about themselves rather than let each bloc put in what they preferred for their own region and peoples.

- The development of political parties in Nigeria. NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man. The Igbo man Azikiwe took over, hijacked the party & turned it into an Igbo party. Prior to this, the Igbo formed Igbo union with chapters all over Nigeria which they collapsed into NCNC when Zik took over. This marked start of tribal politics in Nigeria. Yoruba moved out & Awolowo in reaction formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa & eventually, AG.

- The forming of governments at Federal level. Igbo colluded with the North but tried to hijack the government from the North employing several methods. For example with their kin in government they began to flood out en masse to the North especially where they began appointing themselves into the civil service. They disrespected the North and threatened the isolation policy of the Northeen government. This influenced Ahmadu Bello’s recorded speech in an interview. In the West, they did the same thing by appointing themselves above well qualified Westerners, into positions which prompted Sir Ladoke Akintola’s speech that woke all Yoruba sons and daughters at the time to take back their region.

- The Igbo in the constitutional conferences had always wanted Unitary system of government. Their region was backwards and they needed to be able to flood other regions ‘legitimately’ & get a soft landing with jobs and career advancements. They realized they could not do this with the regional government of the day and opted for the 1966 coup where none of their own kin in government was scratched let alone killed but murdered every other person from other regions. This was the point where Igbo ruined their relationship & completely damaged the trust other regions had for them.

- After the coup, the Igbo in the North made music spiting the North, which was publicly played; made posters and printed shirts to taunt the North which were publicly displayed. Of course, they crrated chants mocking how Tafa Balewa was murdered.

- The Igbo had the chance to redeem their image by allowing a more senior army officer of Borno stock to take over but the Igbos in the democratic government of 1966 handed over to Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man. Then came Ironsi who was expected to hand out justice to the coupist, of course, the Igbo clannishness kicked in and he refused. This soured the North and East relationship forever. This also started protection of indicted kinfolks in Nigerian public space today.

- The Igbo who were proponents of Unitary system since pre-independence suddenly had a problem with it. Igbo who previously didn’t have a problem with subverting military ranking system for Ironsi to head the government suddenly had a problem with the same method which produced Gowon. Suddenly the Igbo wanted regionalism & for military ranking to be stuck to in 1967 simply because they were not the one in power and the Unitary was not to their favour.

- In the MKO debacle of 1993. Of course records abound as to how Igbo supported the MKO’s loss of his substantive position as the president elect. Of course, they even had million man march in support of Abacha when he took over. In fact, when Yoruba were locked in a struggle with Abacha/North, the Igbo took sides with Abacha. This made the relationship and trust the Yoruba had with Igbo became sour coupled with the Igbo ills towards Yoruba in the 1960s

- Fastfoward to when Yaradua passed. Goodluck Jonathan could not take up his mandate as the President. He was not only blocked by the North who played hide & seek with Yaradua’s status, the North even played cards towards a re-interpretation of the constitution to keep Jonathan away from assuming the office he deserved. Jonathan’s small Ijaw group went mute, the Igbo as usual all stayed away. Yoruba championed protests that got the attention of the international community & pressured the North into giving into letting Jonathan take up the office due to him - the Igbo did not say a word. The North fell back from Yoruba’s pressure and Jonathan got in. In 2011, the Yoruba gave Jonathan much more votes than Igbos did but of course their clannishness & disrespect for equality kicked in so much that they hijacked the PDP, hijacked Goodluck’s government and made it a Igbo government so much that the one would conclude it was an ‘Igbo Presidency’.

There are more pointers but I’ll leave it at this.

The above goes to show the Igbo are a risky group to work with. It is not just the West that does not want to work with them, the North also avoids them like a plague. In fact, the Igbo kin in the South South stay away from them politically. Inviting these people into a partnership is like opening the door to a swarm of locust, they will eat at everything in their way without respect for the other side.

These facts & characteristic traits of the Igbo from pre-independence abound till this moment.

- They still flood every region trying to dominate by demanding to be voted into offices or for appointments while strictly preventing such in the region.

- They wanted Lagos in the 50s, they wanted Lagos in the Biafra war & still want to have Lagos in 21st century.

- They are still clannish. Look at Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

- They are still sneaky. During Jonathan’s presidency, they loved Nigeria. In fact, a video of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of the seccessionist group surfaced on the internet where he was super pro-Nigeria. All of a sudden, they no longer want Nigeria because they’re not in power.

And it goes on & on but I’ll leave it alone.

They can not be worked with, QED.

DeviIhimself:
brothers the problem here are those fake yeroba people THE YEROBA MUSLIMS, these people are the problem of the world and the good people of yerobas
they see fulanis and hausa as their brothers more than their fellow yeroba Christians.
these people (yeroba Muslims) are not real yerobas but imigrants from futa jalon that settled in SW and yeroba land.
their mission is to cause trouble and disunite the south and promote northern agenda.

make no mistake igbos loves yeroba but hates and can never associate with yeroba Muslims.

have you ever wondered why they hate Fayose that single handedly defeated fulani herdsmen in ekiti but worship Tinubu that never for once speak against fulani herdsmen.
they support fulani herdsmen even when they abused their elder (olu falae)
they support Buhari irrespective of his gross incompetence.
see the problem here are yeroba Muslims and not original yerobas.

Osu Igbo...why not worry about your useless leaders?? Tell the cowards ruling you to speak out too nah..

Smh. See them. Shameless unity beggers. Una no want Biafra again?? Make everybody bear im papa name abeg. We know una hate us so quit the 'Oju-aiye' and face your region while we handle ours.

rhemmiedream:


Osu Igbo...why not worry about your useless leaders?? Tell the cowards ruling you to speak out too nah..

typical yeroba Muslim

1960 Zik + Balewa Opposition Awolowo
1965 Zik + Balewa Opposition Awolowo
1979 Shagari + Alex Ekwueme + Edwin UmeEzeoke + Zik Opposition Awolowo
1983 Shagari + Alex Ekwueme + Edwin UmeEzeoke + Zik + Ojukwu Opposition Awolowo

Soo when exactly did Yoruba ally with the North against Eboes

Why the lies

Accept the fact that you have been the perennial Boyboys of the Fulani

Check this out please

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Delivar:

I think their politicians are the ones having the trust issues. I believe the common Yoruba man in the street will more likely tilt his support towards an Igbo man in an election against an Hausa man. And the ordinary Igbo man will also tilt his support for a Yoruba man against an Hausa.

Igbo will ever be eternal Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba's slave...
they r jealous, envying and competing to dominate d south by pulling Yoruba off d ladder to d top.

Let Igbo keep their support for d northerners we don't need it.

.MKO abiola won the presidency without Igbo's surport.

Obasanjo won d PDP presidential primary against an Igbo man.

APC(Yoruba's party) and Buhari won without d Igbos.

d Igbo's are d losers in dis hating game started by d igbos

0monnak0da:
1960 Zik + Balewa Opposition Awolowo
1965 Zik + Balewa Opposition Awolowo
1979 Shagari + Alex Ekwueme + Edwin UmeEzeoke + Zik Opposition Awolowo
1983 Shagari + Alex Ekwueme + Edwin UmeEzeoke + Zik + Ojukwu Opposition Awolowo

Soo when exactly did Yoruba ally with the North against Eboes

Why the lies

Accept the fact that you have been the perennial Boyboys of the Fulani

We shouldn't argue with a tribe that's not smart and intelligent broda na noise they sabi make.

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

Give example to back up ur claim

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

'I see'! And they give you so much space to operate in every corner of the West upon this -

" Yoruba attitude is: Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"