rlauncher:


Don't mind nonaira1.

These people have been separated from their Yoruba kith and kin for centuries, associating only with their surrounding cultures. It is even a miracle that they have not completely lost their language.

true I will personally make effort to not let the language die. Whatever it takes whether money the language must live on and their Yoruba names maintain

Thetruthsayer10:
u are not fromany olukumi town so shut up and don’t speak for them. They know their history and they tell it with Yoruba involved

It just occurred to me that she may not be indigenous to Olukumi. Younger generations of Olukumi should not let their history and true identity perish. They should take the questions raised on this platform to the older generations and extract documentary evidence including video recordings of question and answers sessions from them and place it on YouTube.

There we have it Igbo means

Bush or bush dweller
also

vomit

Ann from igala Slave

so Igbo people

are Vomit people or bush people or slaves of Igala

Nonaira1:


Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then she she informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMNI KING prsentation im ANY Yoruba celeberation? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?

Stop deceiving yourself. I have seen an Olukumi king gave an interview on a documentary on Olukumi people on Iroko TV recently.

So after every every, nobody can tell me what Yoruba means in the language and give me names of people and places having Yoruba as a prefix or suffix so that at least we can get the meaning.
Too bad a name was imposed on some people and they accepted it fully with no questions.

Yyeske:
So after every every, nobody can tell me what Yoruba means in the language and give me names of people and places having Yoruba as a prefix or suffix so that at least we can get the meaning.
Too bad a name was imposed on some people and they accepted it fully with no questions.

There we have it Igbo means

Bush or bush dweller
also

vomit

Ann from igala Slave

so Igbo people

are Vomit people or bush people or slaves of Igala

Firstpage:


But you sure know that there's nothing like igbo 50 years ago. It was eboe, before turning to in and later igbo presently.

So IgboUkwu with their 5,000 year old bronze architecture were living in the moon before 50 years ago.
UNICEF was right, yoruba brain are stunted and can never reason properly. Most of you are down with down syndrome.

0monnak0da:


So as far as this thread is concerned you have no evidence to offer me? Fine Keep your opinion and let me keep mine.OK?
The issue of Abomey is totally irrelevant and off point.

You have a view ,I have a different view. You cannot provide evidence.We have a stalement Oro pesi je.

Ire O

It is not my Personal opinion as it seems. And Abomey–Dahomey is relevant because they are FON people who were the people in loggerhead with Yorubas.

nobaga:
Actually Yoruba was already in use before Amed Baba put it into writing complaining he should not be captured as a slave because he was a Muslim. Only YORUBA that stuck to their religion and others should be captured for being nonbelievers of Muslim God.

But Yoruba named most of the ethnic groups in Nigeria. Fulani is Yoruba nomenclature, their name varies from Fulbe to others depending on their location.

Tapa is also Yoruba word just as many others looking for greener pastures in Yoruba name.

Ibo is Yoruba word and many Easterners prefer it to Igbo. Indeed, Igbo corrected Yoruba many times that it is IGBO not IBO. Nevertheless Yoruba have other names Igbo did not like. No need to mention them.

Hausa is also a Yoruba word for a group of people Yoruba see as the same even when they refer to themselves as Magawazu, Burno, Gambari etc.

So Yoruba say- Igbonle ni Mula, Hausa ni Hausa nje.

The reason is obvious. Most Nigerians and Africans coming to Nigeria gravitate to the WEST up to the present day.

So Yoruba have names for those coming from Togo, Ghana all the way to Liberia.

Note, Lagosians would name others anything, even their own Yoruba. But they call many others the same name their Yoruba kin call them. So do not take Lagosians seriously. They are rascals that believe the world starts and end in Lagos like New Yorkers.

Corruption has tamed them. Indeed, tamed all
Nigerians, the giant of WHERE?

Oga no need to to sugar coat words, yoruba are the only tribe in the south that were named by muslim black slave masters and they accepted the name. There is no history of the word 'yoruba' in their oral history, folklore and tradition unlike the Igbos who bear names and places like Igbokwe, Igbogadi, Okadigbo, Aguluzigbo, Igboukwu.

If you like twist am anyhow you like shout 'Ijebu Igbo' or 'bush' from now tommorow.
Igbo and yoruba don't share boundary so they had very little contact prehistorically.

Therefore pretending that 'Igbo' in yoruba has the same tonal architecture with 'Igbo' in Igbo is the most laughable thing and only sensible to people with stunted mental development (according to Unicef).

Olu317:
It is not my Personal opinion as it seems. And Abomey–Dahomey is relevant because they are FON people who were the people in loggerhead with Yorubas.

I am not sure what I am suppossed to do with this

well done for the effort but it does not change my view and be assured I have no interest in changing yours

Kestolovee95:


Oga no need to to sugar coat words, yoruba are the only tribe in the south that were named by a black slave masters and they accepted the name. There is no history of the word 'yoruba' in their oral history, folklore and tradition unlike the Igbos who bear names and aces Igbogadi, Okadigbo, Aguluzigbo, Igboukwu.

If you like twist am anyhow you like shout Ijebu Igbo or 'bush' from now tommorow.

Igbo and yoruba don't share boundary so they had very little contact prehistory pretending 'Igbo' in yoruba has the tonal architecture with 'Igbo' in Igbo is the most laughable thing and only sensible to people with stunted mental development (according to Unicef).

Oga here is the meaning of igbo down here. How can humans share boundary with bush people. Second picture further clarifies what we all know about igbos . Yoruba gave you name. Enjoy it.

Strikethem:
Oga here is the meaning of igbo down here.

In yoriba I agree, have you forgotten that your difficulty in pronouncing the the tonal 'Igbo' as done in Igbo language made you adopt calling us 'omo Ibo'. Does your 'Ibo' also mean 'bush'?

make I jiggle your stunted brain small.

Kestolovee95:


In yoriba I agree, have you forgotten that your difficulty in pronouncing the the tonal 'Igbo' as done in Igbo language made you adopt calling us 'omo Ibo'. Does your 'Ibo' also mean 'bush'?

make I jiggle your stunted brain small.

Whether we call you omo Ibo, or omo una. It doesn't change the fact that this is what you mean in Yoruba. , Talking of stunted, do I look like your aki and pawpaw, or which stunted growth is more than that?

0monnak0da:


So as far as this thread is concerned you have no evidence to offer me? Fine Keep your opinion and let me keep mine.OK?
The issue of Abomey is totally irrelevant and off point.

You have a view ,I have a different view. You cannot provide evidence.We have a stalement Oro pesi je.

Ire O

It is not my Personal opinion as it seems. And Abomey–Dahomey is relevant because they are FON people who were the people in loggerhead with Yorubas. You can buy any of the book below I attached here.

0monnak0da:


So as far as this thread is concerned you have no evidence to offer me? Fine Keep your opinion and let me keep mine.OK?
The issue of Abomey is totally irrelevant and off point.

You have a view ,I have a different view. You cannot provide evidence.We have a stalement Oro pesi je.

Ire O

It is not my Personal opinion as it seems. And Abomey–Dahomey is relevant because they are FON people who were the people in loggerhead with Yorubas. You can buy any of the book below I screenshot.

Kestolovee95:


Igbos unlike yorubas were not named by slavemasters.

The word Igbo have existed in Igbo oral literature and history since time immemorial. That's why you can find the words 'Igboeze' 'Igbonacho', 'Igbo ukwu' 'Igbogadi' etc in Igbo oral history and literature.
Igbo means 'people', 'nation'..

Even your fellow rabid yorubaman yyeske knows the truth. Unfortunately for yorubas who bear a name christened them their muslim slave masters, there is no record of thr word 'yoruba' in yoruba folklore, literature and oral history in prehistoric times, no one bears Adeyoruba, olayoruba, no community bears onayoruba etc.

I know you know these facts I also know it's painful to be baptized by slavemasters but truth must be told whether you like it or not.

Igbo means
Vomit
bush and
slave
so I don't know whee you get this fction from

Kestolovee95:


Oga no need to to sugar coat words, yoruba are the only tribe in the south that were named by a black slave masters and they accepted the name. There is no history of the word 'yoruba' in their oral history, folklore and tradition unlike the Igbos who bear names and aces Igbogadi, Okadigbo, Aguluzigbo, Igboukwu.

If you like twist am anyhow you like shout Ijebu Igbo or 'bush' from now tommorow.

Igbo and yoruba don't share boundary so they had very little contact prehistory pretending 'Igbo' in yoruba has the tonal architecture with 'Igbo' in Igbo is the most laughable thing and only sensible to people with stunted mental development (according to Unicef).

google Ahmed baba the Songhai scholar and clear ur deliberate ignorance he documented the people he met as Yoruba in his book. Two things either he was told by the people he met there were Yoruba or he came up with the name to refer to the oyo people it doesn’t take anything away from the great Yoruba nation and nairaland osu ranting will not change it. God bless Yoruba nation. Hausa doesn’t bear Hausa in name nor do edo hell I thinks it’s only Igbo I know that bears Igbo in their name maybe ur actual name is actually just osu.

Thetruthsayer10:
google Ahmed baba the Songhai scholar and clear ur deliberate ignorance he documented the people he met as Yoruba in his book. Two things either he was told by the people he met there were Yoruba or he came up with the name to refer to the oyo people it doesn’t take anything away from the great Yoruba nation and nairaland osu ranting will not change it. God bless Yoruba nation. Hausa doesn’t bear Hausa in name nor do edo hell I thinks it’s only Igbo I know that bears Igbo in their name maybe ur actual name is actually just osu.

Hausas are slaves too under fulani dominion how can they behave like freeborns when they are not?

Your name is your root, when masters buy slaves they take away old names effectivy ending their status as freeborns and they become slaves.

I will feel like commiting suicide if I grew up to learn that one muslim gworo-chewing towel-head somewhere gave my great ethnic group the name they celebrate.

I even prefer you guys revert back to 'anago' that the dahomey girly warriors called you whenever they came to remove the heads of your warriors and take them home as trophies. It sound more pleasing to the ear.

What brought ojukwus name here?you want to create tribal war right?leave the dead oldman alone...last warning

Thetruthsayer10:
did u read at all Ahmed baba was a Songhai scholar not Hausa. Different kingdom give each other name we call the nupe tapa even the name hausa was not given by Hausa themselves nothing indicates slavery about it. Read ojukwu read

Leave the dead oldman alone

Thetruthsayer10:
did u read at all Ahmed baba was a Songhai scholar not Hausa. Different kingdom give each other name we call the nupe tapa even the name hausa was not given by Hausa themselves nothing indicates slavery about it. Read ojukwu read

Kestolovee95:


Hausas are slaves too under fulani dominion how can they behave like freeborns when they are not?

Your name is your root, when masters buy slaves they take away old names effectivy ending their status as freeborns and they become slaves.

I will feel like commiting suicide if I grew up to learn that one musligworo-cheing towel-head somewhere gave my great ethnic group the name they celebrate.
I even prefer you guys revert back to 'anago' that the dahomey girly warriors called you whenever they came to remove the heads of your warriors and take them home as trophies. It sound more pleasing to the ear. ,D

lol but the Fulani didn’t give Yoruba the name did u read my comment at all and If I ask for fact to back up the ridiculous things u say now like ur brother u will do an ojukwu on me

rummmy:
What brought ojukwus name here?you want to create tribal war right?leave the dead oldman alone...last warning

did u read the person that started this thread and the nonsense he spew ojukwu ur people scream rat poison Awolowo anyhow is he not dead also. Don’t give what u can’t handle

9jakool:
Hello, I see that you've crawled out of your little rat hole. Let me make some things clear so your little rat brain can stop looking for trouble.

Number 1: It's Olukumi, not Olukumin as the title of this thread suggests. I've even heard of other variations like Olukwumi, and even Lukumi, but never Olukumin.

Number 2: The word Yoruba existed long before Ilorin was ever sacked. The first documentation of "Yoruba" was not even by a Hausa but by a Songhai scholar in the 1500s. Ilorin was annexed some centuries later.

Number 3: There is no such thing as "Hausa/Fulani" dialect. Hausa and Fulfulde are completely separate languages on their own right.

Number 4: "Yoruba" is not a derogatory term in the so called "Hausa/Fulani" dialect nor was it ever used as a mockery term. It was simply a name for an ethnic group SW of the Niger River.

Number 5: There is nothing like "Oyoroba." You made that up in your rat brain. The term that Hausas use is "Yorubawa" which is just how they say Yoruba in their language.

Now that you've been educated, you can now crawl back to the hole you came from.

Jean Claude van Damme! What an epic finishing! Perfect template for cutting a retard down to size, without even breaking a sweat. Respect!

igbodefender:
Olukwumi is the language of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife Moremi Ajesoro contended with in the 10th century.

There is a book about the whole thing, including the origin of the name Olukwumi (Nya na o lukwu mu?)

I marvel at the way you chaps concoct such falsehood, and try to turn it into 'fact.' A house built on sand cannot stand. And it is evident that your stories are built on quicksand. So "Olukwumi is the language of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife" according to you? Let me laugh very well in Japanese, first!

LaudableXX:


I marvel at the way you chaps concoct such falsehood, and try to turn it into 'fact.' A house built on sand cannot stand. And it is evident that your stories are built on quicksand. So "Olukwumi is the language of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife" according to you? Let me laugh very well in Japanese, first!

the things I see posted by ibo on nairaland u can never see such in places like Facebook or twitter. I think I should deactivate my nairaland account

rlauncher:
The OP just heard some bullsh*t non-history from some ignorant and irrelevant idiots and came here hastily to publish it. When will you Igbo guys free yourselves from Yoruba hatred!

I really envy you Yoruba chaps a lot. In your own little way, you manage to remain the centre of attraction for the Igbo people, especially the ones on this forum, who make up the bulk of the IPOB clique.

If they do not mention the name of your tribe in one day, their market would not sell.

If they do not hop on a luxurious bus coming into your region, their life would not record any progress.

If they do not devote a whole thread trying to figure out your tribe's origins, their minds will not be at peace.

Can you see how strong the hold you people have over their lives, has become? Please share the secret of your attraction with other ethnic groups. Thanks.

Strikethem:
Don't know that ipob now has their own version of history book?

Why won't they have their own version of history books, when they already have their own version of fake statistics bureau, which churns out skewed and illogical statistics to support their twisted, illogical views?

Firstpage:
You are the shameless fool. You said they migrated from Yorubaland and you are still confused as to whether they are Yorubas!

Can igbos in Lagos ever become Yoruba?

Guy, let him be arguing blindly. here are some facts about the Olukumi people in Delta State.

Far from home, Yoruba community makes home in Delta State | National Mirror, November 2011 |

— Not many people know that there is an authentic Yoruba community in Delta State. Well, there is. The Oloku Mi people who migrated from Owo/Akure area of the present day Ondo State, have lived in a community known as Ugbodu in Aniocha Local Government Area of Delta State, since circa 11th Century AD. AMOUR UDEMUDE visited the community, and found a people eager to retain as many aspects of their origin as possible.

The couple strolling ahead have all the trappings of the Igbo, especially in the way they are attired and the language of their dialogue. A few metres more, they are at their abode, where a group of kids bid them welcome in a language different from the one they have been using. Their response too is in that same language: a variety of the Yoruba language.

Welcome to Ugbodu, a town in the Aniocha North Local Government Area of Delta State. Ugbodu is a peaceful community of over 10,000 people and it is agrarian like its Isoko, Urhobo, Izon, Itsekiri and Igbo neighbours. It is also a border town in that it shares boundary with Edo State. But aside their dressings, living , occupation and other things which bear close semblance to that of their neighbours, there is something unique and almost peculiar about them: their language and culture. These are prone to shock any first time visitor which was what happened to the reporter on his first visit.

How could this be? The writer wondered. A visit to the palace, unfortunately, could not solve the riddle. The custodian of the people’s customs and traditions, the monarch, was not around to illuminate the dark areas. It was a young Princess taking the writer down to one of the members of the royal family who could talk, that made the first move at solving the riddle.

“We are a Yoruba speaking community and the name of our language is Oloku mi,” she disclosed. Finally the king, H.R.M. Ayo Isinyemeze, the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu, met the desire of the writer. The youthful looking, handsome royal father explained. According to the monarch who is also the chairman of the Traditional Rulers Council in Aniocha North, the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the current day Ondo State between 9th and 11th Century AD to settle down in Benin during the reign of King Ogiso of Benin. They, however, had to leave Benin for their current abode after a particular incident which rendered them unsafe.

“The language, Oluku mi is a dialect of the Yoruba. Interestingly, we are not the only speakers of the language. It is spoken even as far as far away Cuba, part of Southern America. Our history dated far back, very far back to the time of Ogiso’s in the Benin Kingdom. “Then, there was a young handsome Prince, the heir apparent to the throne. After the woman gave birth to the Prince, the nobles consulted the oracle and said that the oracle told them that the child should be killed for peace to reign in Benin Kingdom. But eventually he was not killed.

However, when the news filtered into the rest of Benin that the Prince had not been executed, we didn’t feel safe and comfortable. That is to say we first of all settled in Benin at this time, so when this filtered in that this young Prince had been executed, of course our people grew very uneasy and decided to leave Benin, and that was how we ended up here. So, that is how far we can trace our history and when we got here and find the place very conducive and fertile for settlement, of course we have to settle here,” the royal father narrated.

...... What exactly does the name Ugbodu connote, the monarch disclosed “Ugbodu simply means, we have found solace in this land”. http://ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/115435435597/far-from-home-yoruba-community-makes-home-in

Yyeske:
Lol, meaning that part of Yorubaland is populated by the Igbo people so don't drag it with Ndigbo next time. Meanwhile, I need just one name of place or person in Yorubaland with Yoruba as a prefix or suffix to the name.

Haba! Bros, you can lie, o!

igbodefender:
He is right.

They migrated from today's Yoruba land as in, they were the original inhabitants of Ile Ife. Some Olucumi also remain as indigenous people of Ile Ife today. That is the Obatala/Oluyare/ Igare people.

Most Anioma are descended from this stock of Igbo. That is why they claim to have come from somewhere in the West.

How they left the Nri area earlier on to become the first to settle in the West? There is a book that explains that. Will get the link and post here.

Naa wa, o! You people are really so desperate to associate with these Yoruba people, so you had to invent one historical link that ties you to them? Wonders shall never cease!

Thetruthsayer10:
the things I see posted by ibo on nairaland u can never see such in places like Facebook or twitter. I think I should deactivate my nairaland account

Deactivate? Why? Because of these clueless jokers online? Don't, o! I basically come here to laugh at their antics and amuse myself. They are a bunch of comedians, I swear....

LaudableXX:

Deactivate? Why? Because of these clueless jokers online? Don't, o! I basically come here to laugh at their antics and amuse myself. They are a bunch of comedians, I swear....

yes the do serve as a source of comedy and I also enjoy trolling them but sometimes they say some things that just leave me surprised whether they believe it or not and more surprised when I find out they believe it, it’s ridiculous. Look at this thread for example the facts are there but they keep repeating the same ignorant things they know well.