what can 50k setup for me?
I need a setup to power a projector for about 1hr.30mins

sleekest:
what can 50k setup for me?
I need a setup to power a projector for about 1hr.30mins

how many watts is the projector

Penuelseun:
how many watts is the projector

200 watt

kiekie1:


Hello, your battery cells might be weak ! I believe your ups isn't a pure sinewave , that is the major reason your fan coil degenerated in performance. Only a few people knows that most ups which ain't pure sinewave affects fan coils on the long run.
If you must use a ups , go for the
-24v APC smart inverter which ranges from 20-25k.
-2 units of 100a agm batteries
-24v smart chargers or the affordable Emerson brands.
I have been using the APC for past 10yrs and its very durable & reliable . I only have few APC units at give away price. Cheer's

Please, can you throw more light on this pure sinewave characteristic and its significance to the mini/inverter set up

kiekie1:


We learn daily ! Sorry for your loss. I didn't really get if battery was brand new in your explanation, I am also aware that there are some factors militating against "warranty" like overcharging , fire, physical damages etc.
It would have been more understanding if the seller explained to you a bit for good business relationship sake but nevertheless , contact me for a more lasting solution. Cheer's !

Thanks for your response, again. As it stands now, can you offer some tips with which i can manage this battery, pending when i resolve with the seller or buy a new one. i would appreciate.

odimbannamdi:


Please, can you throw more light on this pure sinewave characteristic and its significance to the mini/inverter set up

Hello,
Pure sinewave is simply pure sinewave both in bigger or smaller applications ... Its synonymous to grid efficiency/output .. It comes with realtime surge capabilities.... It dosnt depend on chopper transformers unlike modified specs .... Sensitive appliances runs best with puresinewaves .
Its all depends on clients choice , budget, scale of preferences etc . I personally stopped using modified more than 12yrs ago as its negative side as listed below shows on the long run;
-it causes distortion -wave interference
-it weakens coils
-it isn't surge tolerant and MOSFETs tend to get weak and wear out fast
-its prone to repair and fail
-its inbuilt charger developes periodic fault
-it shocks and needs proper grounding most times
-it humms on some sensitive motor equipment
And so on ..

If you observed , there was an era in Lagos when the aluminum plated modified sinewave(new & used) dominated the entire market like "Opel omega" cars of those days but it no more under serious demand like before unless for unaware newbies. If I must go for a small set up, I would rather go for 12v 850va Indian pure sinewave brands , bluegate 1kva pending on the total watts of loads you need to power etc

I feel its just best for lighter use , marine use, camping et al .... Hope my lucid explanation helps . Cheer's !

odimbannamdi:


Thanks for your response, again. As it stands now, can you offer some tips with which i can manage this battery, pending when i resolve with the seller or buy a new one. i would appreciate.

I don't forsee an average reseller changing a bulged-swollen battery as companies themselves rarely accept warranty on that as its physical damage due to equipment malfunction.. They ain't liable for that damage. Its best you save up , and count that as your "loss" . when you sense a battery isn't receiving charge , choking or battery takes much time than required to get filled up, pls it means there is a fault somewhere. Stop charge to avoid swelling, electrolyte leak or explosion !

My contact is always available for enquiries, discounted prices and trusted supplies to old and prospective clients.. Cheer's

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sleekest:

200 watt

can someone please respond

sleekest:

200 watt

50k is small to procure a good setup as I won't advise you to go for used batteries

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Penuelseun:
50k is small to procure a good setup as I won't advise you to go for used batteries

How much then? the Projector would be used one hour a day for 5 days a week, so I just need recommendations on a setup that can last up to an hour.

from following this thread, getting a 40ah battery and a 12V inverter would do and can give me about 1hr 30mins, but then I may be wrong.

sleekest:

How much then? the Projector would be used one hour a day for 5 days a week, so I just need recommendations on a setup that can last up to an hour.

from following this thread, getting a 40ah battery and a 12V inverter would do and can give me about 1hr 30mins, but then I may be wrong.

a 40ah battery is too small for your setup, it is best you go for a 200ah battery

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I don't think 200ah battery is necessary for projector application. Since ur budget is 50k, I think u should...

1. get a 50ah battery for abt 30k.
2. get a 1000 watts inverter for 13k.
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 58k

or,
1. get a used ups for 5k
2. get a 50ah battery for 30k
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 50k
Here, ur ups will serve as inverter. get a ups without its battery cos that will make it cheap.

or
1. Get a 50ah battery for 30k
2. get an 80watts panel for 15k
3. get a China charge controller for 5k
4. get a fairly used ups for 5k
Total 55k
Here, u can use solar to charge and also use ups to charge. of cos, ur ups will serve as inverter.

A load of 200w drawing from a 12 volts battery will pull abt 17a per hr. That is less than 50%draw of ur battery. Taking into consideration inefficiencies, bad as e go bad, u will only pull 60-70% energy from ur battery at the close of whatever u intend to do for 1hr-1:30hr. @sleekest

donpata:
I don't think 200ah battery is necessary for projector application. Since ur budget is 50k, I think u should...

1. get a 50ah battery for abt 30k.
2. get a 1000 watts inverter for 13k.
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 58k

or,
1. get a used ups for 5k
2. get a 50ah battery for 30k
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 50k
Here, ur ups will serve as inverter. get a ups without its battery cos that will make it cheap.

or
1. Get a 50ah battery for 30k
2. get an 80watts panel for 15k
3. get a China charge controller for 5k
4. get a fairly used ups for 5k
Total 55k
Here, u can use solar to charge and also use ups to charge. of cos, ur ups will serve as inverter.

A load of 200w drawing from a 12 volts battery will pull abt 17a per hr. That is less than 50%draw of ur battery. Taking into consideration inefficiencies, bad as e go bad, u will only pull 60-70% energy from ur battery at the close of whatever u intend to do for 1hr-1:30hr. @sleekest

Nice point but he must add a contingency plan whilst going solar for miscellaneous cable,breaker fuse procurement costs etc .. So he needs to balance up his budget a bit instead tryna squeeze a square peg into a round hole ... When some clients come up with this brain cracking proposition , that's when you see most advicing they use sealed car batteries which ain't best for deep discharge purposes but a 100a brand new car smf battery will serve him at less than same 30k, whilst he opts in for solar as he can even get a fairly new 20a pwm charge controller from me and a brand new 80-120w solar panel at discounted prices !

Note: while the op plans for just 200w at less than 2 hrs run time, solar integration gives you a head room to run at longer hours without solely depending on grid - gen supply ceteris paribus !

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donpata:
I don't think 200ah battery is necessary for projector application. Since ur budget is 50k, I think u should...

1. get a 50ah battery for abt 30k.
2. get a 1000 watts inverter for 13k.
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 58k

or,
1. get a used ups for 5k
2. get a 50ah battery for 30k
3. get a 20a battery charger for 15k
Total 50k
Here, ur ups will serve as inverter. get a ups without its battery cos that will make it cheap.

or
1. Get a 50ah battery for 30k
2. get an 80watts panel for 15k
3. get a China charge controller for 5k
4. get a fairly used ups for 5k
Total 55k
Here, u can use solar to charge and also use ups to charge. of cos, ur ups will serve as inverter.

A load of 200w drawing from a 12 volts battery will pull abt 17a per hr. That is less than 50%draw of ur battery. Taking into consideration inefficiencies, bad as e go bad, u will only pull 60-70% energy from ur battery at the close of whatever u intend to do for 1hr-1:30hr. @sleekest

Thanks so much for this useful information, would consider increasing my budget a bit.

kiekie1:


Nice point but he must add a contingency plan whilst going solar for miscellaneous cable,breaker fuse procurement costs etc .. So he needs to balance up his budget a bit instead tryna squeeze a square peg into a round hole ... When some clients come up with this brain cracking proposition , that's when you see most advicing they use sealed car batteries which ain't best for deep discharge purposes but a 100a brand new car smf battery will serve him at less than same 30k, whilst he opts in for solar as he can even get a fairly new 20a pwm charge controller from me and a brand new 80-120w solar panel at discounted prices !

Note: while the op plans for just 200w at less than 2 hrs run time, solar integration gives you a head room to run at longer hours without solely depending on grid - gen supply ceteris paribus !

Contact ;
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081-350-31951

are you saying i can get a 100ah battery for 30k ish?

sleekest:
are you saying i can get a 100ah battery for 30k ish?

He is talking of car battery not the deep cycle battery.

sleekest:

are you saying i can get a 100ah battery for 30k ish?

He is talking of car battery not the deep cycle battery. it ain't advisable to use car battery. But u can get China 100ah for 40k

donpata:


He is talking of car battery not the deep cycle battery. it ain't advisable to use car battery. But u can get China 100ah for 40k

so i can get a setup like this
1. Get a 50ah 100ah battery for 30k 40k
2. get an 80watts panel for 15k
3. get a China charge controller for 5k
4. get a fairly used ups for 5k
Total approx 65k

please is there any body here who has an idea about super capacitors.... Its seems to be the latest and more efficient form of energy and also cheap.... watch this video and see. Using 50watts solar panel,super capacitors and 20ah Battery to cook rice..https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLxI4QqKyiYX5LHNfKlthBP0P3AgfByR1x&v=7F-F8tnUSsM

sleekest:

so i can get a setup like this
1. Get a 50ah 100ah battery for 30k 40k
2. get an 80watts panel for 15k
3. get a China charge controller for 5k
4. get a fairly used ups for 5k
Total approx 65k

I don't think that 80watts panel will be able to charge the 100 mah battery effectively

cute75:
please is there any body here who has an idea about super capacitors.... Its seems to be the latest and more efficient form of energy and also cheap.... watch this video and see. Using 50watts solar panel,super capacitors and 20ah Battery to cook rice..https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLxI4QqKyiYX5LHNfKlthBP0P3AgfByR1x&v=7F-F8tnUSsM

Its still a research in motion.... Its not available yet

odimbannamdi:
Goodmorning Guys.

I am having issues with my setup. My setup consists of a 30A smart charger, UPS and 100ah battery, and it is less than 1month old.

No matter how long i charge it (even without using it and with the smart charger knob set to 120-160ah), it never seems to get filled up, and when i use it, it doesnt last me up to 4hours with my load of approximately 145w (laptop 70w, fan 65w

Also, for some very strange reasons, my standing fan (not rechargeable) doesnt work on the set up. the day i launched it, the fan worked perfectly, but an hour later, the intensity dropped. Now, it comes on but doesnt rotate. But when i plug it to normal electricity supply, it works perfectly.

What could be wrong?

CC: Ceejay80s, Xtifield

My bros, I can confidently tell you that there was no water in your battery at all. The battery will never be full because there is no distilled water to hold the charges. Get water from an air conditioner, use it to fill the battery through the holes, charge it with your smart charger with the knob placed at approximately 80A. please leave the holes on the battery open while charging it because some of the distilled water will escape.
Charge the battey full and use it. I hope the heat generated by the battery while you were charging without water has not cause any leakage on the battery though.
Am telling you from experience because i had the same issue with one of my batteries last 2 years. The battery is still serving me till today.

pat077:
I don't think that 80watts panel will be able to charge the 100 mah battery effectively

Do u mean effectively: like it wouldn't charge quickly or it would never fully charge it?

sleekest:

Do u mean effectively: like it wouldn't charge quickly or it would never fully charge it?

He is talking abt efficiency. The thing is, with an 80 watt panel and a 12v battery, 80/12=6.7a. This meas at 100% efficiency, ur panel will send 6.7a to the battery per hr. So, if ur 100ah battery is at 0%, it will take over 20hrs of sunlight to get it to 100%. That is the limitation here. at an efficiency of 80%, the time will be longer.

However, it is not likely u will discharge ur battery that low. let's recall that ...
ur need is just 1hr usage with a 200watt load. soooo.... 200/12=16.7a. This means u will use only abt 17amps for an hour. bad as e go bad, for inefficiency issues, let's say u use 25amps for ur 1hr daily need.

Now, let's assume ur battery for whatever reason is at 90% an not 100%. at 90% (90amps) drawing 25amps would take the battery to 65amps.
Or better still, since u only drew out 25amps, replacing same 25amps using ur panel will take just abt 6hrs of sunlight when we consider inefficiencies. Soooo, for ur projector usage, my initial suggestion will work. with extra 3-4k u will get a 100watts panel. but its even better to get an mppt solar controller than can convert wasted voltage to more charging current. (actually, panels give out more than 12volts but ur 5k charge controller will step it down to 12v to charge ur battery. the extra 5-7volts is then wasted away. a mppt controller however helps to convert the "wasted" voltage to more charging current. as u may deduce, it will cause u extra bucks.)

donpata:


He is talking abt efficiency. The thing is, with an 80 watt panel and a 12v battery, 80/12=6.7a. This meas at 100% efficiency, ur panel will send 6.7a to the battery per hr. So, if ur 100ah battery is at 0%, it will take over 20hrs of sunlight to get it to 100%. That is the limitation here. at an efficiency of 80%, the time will be longer.

However, it is not likely u will discharge ur battery that low. let's recall that ...
ur need is just 1hr usage with a 200watt load. soooo.... 200/12=16.7a. This means u will use only abt 17amps for an hour. bad as e go bad, for inefficiency issues, let's say u use 25amps for ur 1hr daily need.

Now, let's assume ur battery for whatever reason is at 90% an not 100%. at 90% (90amps) drawing 25amps would take the battery to 65amps.
Or better still, since u only drew out 25amps, replacing same 25amps using ur panel will take just abt 6hrs of sunlight when we consider inefficiencies. Soooo, for ur projector usage, my initial suggestion will work. with extra 3-4k u will get a 100watts panel. but its even better to get an mppt solar controller than can convert wasted voltage to more charging current. (actually, panels give out more than 12volts but ur 5k charge controller will step it down to 12v to charge ur battery. the extra 5-7volts is then wasted away. a mppt controller however helps to convert the "wasted" voltage to more charging current. as u may deduce, it will cause u extra bucks.)

I am indeed wiser after reading this, would put everything you said into consideration and ask more questions later. Thanks so much for your detailed response

vitality22:

My bros, I can confidently tell you that there was no water in your battery at all. The battery will never be full because there is no distilled water to hold the charges. Get water from an air conditioner, use it to fill the battery through the holes, charge it with your smart charger with the knob placed at approximately 80A. please leave the holes on the battery open while charging it because some of the distilled water will escape.
Charge the battey full and use it. I hope the heat generated by the battery while you were charging without water has not cause any leakage on the battery though.
Am telling you from experience because i had the same issue with one of my batteries last 2 years. The battery is still serving me till today.

You just gave me hope, bro.

How do i reach you?

Please give me your whatsapp number

vitality22:

My bros, I can confidently tell you that there was no water in your battery at all. The battery will never be full because there is no distilled water to hold the charges. Get water from an air conditioner, use it to fill the battery through the holes, charge it with your smart charger with the knob placed at approximately 80A. please leave the holes on the battery open while charging it because some of the distilled water will escape.
Charge the battey full and use it. I hope the heat generated by the battery while you were charging without water has not cause any leakage on the battery though.
Am telling you from experience because i had the same issue with one of my batteries last 2 years. The battery is still serving me till today.

Hello,
You remind me of experimental days when we cut open a sealed agm lead acid battery and apply distilled water or electrolyte for revival sake ! I believe the op uses a sealed battery and not flooded , I also read where the op said somtin about "swollen/bulged" battery . I don't really advice a DIY client to toy around acid - battery for safety sake as the chance of revival is highly infinitesimal !

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