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Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 11:33pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
Rolly22: My advice for you is simple....don't use this language you have used on me on others please. Thank you and goodnight. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 11:34pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
ahmedbanj: And have a good night, sir. God bless. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 11:36pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: Ghanaians pay enough for light...so that there is enough money to buy the stuff needed to ensure light 24/7. Nigerians....many people and many govt agencies, and even political parties don't pay their bills...and expect free light. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 11:45pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
waveman2: I pay my taxes and I have been doing so for years, ever since I started my career. My PAYE tax is deducted at source by my employers and remitted directly to the tax authorities, while my tax clearance card gets updated regularly. And yes, I live in a neighbourhood where we still fix our roads, because waiting for govt to do so, would mean waiting for eternity. This is because my neighbours and I cannot allow the potholes become craters, so that they do not damage our cars and lead us to spend far greater sums of money fixing such cars. When the govt or its agencies who are supposed to fix the roads, have neglected to do so, despite repeated notifications and constant complaints to the relevant parties, do you expect me and my neighbours to hold a gun to the heads of the staff of those govt agencies, to get the roads fixed? So why da heck are you talking as if payment of taxes leads to an automatic provision of services or utilities, by the govt, in Nigeria? Stop playing to the gallery, please. You are beginning to sound clueless..... How many of those senators earning 13.5 million monthly have you been able to compel to carry out their jobs? And if a revolution starts today, will you be in the forefront to lead it? Kindly try and stuff your silliness in your side pocket and keep your mouth shut, so that you do not show everyone how truly empty your brain cells are. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 11:49pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
Cromcruach91:Another big piece of propaganda and sheer falsehood. Aren't you too old to be repeating such lies? Someone corrected you earlier that individuals, and commercial enterprises pay their bills, but govt agencies and barracks are the chronic debtors. Yet you keep recycling the same lie that Nigerians don't pay their bills....mtcheew! |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by sexyanyabubakar(f): 11:52pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
Lomprico2:Where is ASSU, NUPENG and our Religious Leaders when the poor masses not collecting SALARY are crying. Can they not mobiliz citizens to shut down National Assembly , and ask PMB to resign now. Must we wait till 2019. Common ZIMBABWE, SOUTH AFRICA have done it. Our mumu don do. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 11:59pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
Cuteamigo1: The stuvpidity is oozing from you. The electricity chain includes the Gencos, the DisCos and the transmission company. Govt still owns 40% of the DisCos, and also owns the transmission companies outright. Go and do your research. In fact, electricity distribution companies (Discos) often refuse to take maximum electricity loads allocated to them, for distribution to their various consumers.
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Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 12:08am On Mar 21, 2018 |
LaudableXX: I wish it was a lie, but it is the truth. I recall a news report several years ago on the problem (back when it was PHCN) And I also recall a report (radio) saying that one of the DISCOS only got bills from 30% of the customers. And then there was the APC not paying bills for the HQ, and the various ministries too. It is the truth. And finally...several years ago, as a student, I lived in an off campus residence. We were supposed to share the bills. Out of about some 30 people...only 3 of us paid the bills. Out of our small money...so that we did not get cut off. See why I don't beleive that most people pay their bills...and even then, we ain't earning enough to import the stuff to fix things. You can call me a liar for all I know, you can even say I am a govt bootlicker. But one thing I know....we have a serious problem, and pretending we don't have it...that makes me sad. I don't understand you Nigerians. Really I don't. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 12:10am On Mar 21, 2018 |
LaudableXX: Yes they refuse to do so because the transmission system is broke, and it is not fit for purpose. And we need $100billion to fix the transmission system alone. And 7000mw isn't enough. We need 20000MW...just to give everyone 18 hours of power a day. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 12:15am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: Your problem is that you cannot distinguish between fact and falsehood, and you think all Nigerians are a gullible lot. Estimated bills have always been hyper-inflated by the DisCos, in their bid to rip off consumers. They know that the consumer has no objective way of monitoring his electricity bill, so before the end of the month, they calculate their so-called estimated bill using a weird formula, and share it to the consumers/residents. And within a week, they come in to disconnect the power supply in the area, if such bills remain unpaid. That is the only way they can make money. But with a pre-paid meter you only pay for what you consume (hopefully). A user can easily monitor his power consumption, by checking how many units of kilowatts are purchased, each time he credits his pre-paid meter. There are even some meters that will tell you how many days of electricity supply you have left, after recharging. This enables you to monitor your usage, and track your consumption with a view to being more prudent with the usage of electricity. Some folks will tell you that after getting a pre-paid meter, they now turn off all their appliances once they leave home in a bid to save cost. But with estimated bills, you cannot save costs. Even if you turn off your power supply from the mains for a whole week, you still get billed at a ridiculous rate. You claim "most people in your DISCO's catchment area don't pay bills." How many people are in your DisCos catchment area? 5,000? 10,000? Or more? Did you conduct a survey? Or do you have access to each customers' accounts at the DisCo, for you to know this? It appears you work for the DisCo, which is why you repeat such statements with such confidence! I had a friend who was out of town for a whole month on a course abroad. Before leaving, he switched off all his appliances, and left just one security light outside his gate on. That single light was on a timer, that was switched off during the day, but came back on at night. By the time he came back, he had been billed 30,000 naira as the estimated charges for the month he was away, because he lacked a pre-paid meter. Now, is this act simply not another name for extortion? The worst part was that the DisCo refused to waive the bill or make any corrections. He was asked to go and pay the entire bill since it had been issued already, BEFORE they could even listen to his complaints. 2 Likes |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 12:26am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: Oga, the PR job you are trying to do for the DisCos, is sickening. Like I said before, it is either you are a foreigner who has not lived in Nigeria for a long period of time, or you are an expatriate Nigerian out of tune with the reality in his country, or you are simply a hired hack, who has been paid to push forth the shallow perspective of the inefficient, clueless DisCos. Which one? Or else how did you arrive at these figures of 100 billion USD, or 300 billion USD that you have been flinging around carelessly and flippantly everywhere on this thread? Like I told your sidekick earlier, "Govt has spent 2.7 trillion naira on power supply in the last 16 years with little improvements in the sector, so what makes you think that by overburdening the masses to extort more money out of them, in the guise of increased electricity rates, you would automatically transform the same power sector?" 2 Likes |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 12:36am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: You recall a report from years back? Provide the link and url to the report so we can read it and verify! If DisCos say they get only 30% of their bills from customers, then they are lying. And if they know their debtors, why can't they go after them to retrieve their unpaid bills? Are those debtors, ghosts or spirits? DisCos are known for carrying out mass disconnections, when bills remain unpaid. So why haven't they done so? And the bulk of the non-paying customers of the DisCos are govt agencies, barracks, and parastatals. Instead of embarking on a debt recovery drive from such ministries, parastatals and govt agencies, the DisCos prefer to burden the poor masses, and other residential consumers by inflicting higher tariffs on them. Why? As for whether you are a liar or not, the kind of case you have been making for the DisCos, shows you are definitely one. In fact you labelled yourself as a 'bootlicker.' And I agree totally. That description suits you. Now, tell your paymasters that you have tried to help them sell their bad market called increased electricity tariffs, but it isn't working, because people are now much wiser, than they used to be. And members of the public do not have an inexhaustible supply of funds to cater for every form of exploitation, that the DisCos want to inflict upon them. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by dfrost: 3:24am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: I agree with what you postulated. Bottom line PHCN should issue everyone with prepaid meters so we can regulate what we use Simple. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nigeriadondie1: 6:29am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91:I agree with u that electricity in Nigeria is cheap but dont forget that the people who are d consumer are very poor. In countries where they pay high bills have higher purchasing power and as such cud meet up with the demand of higher bills. 2 Likes |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by israelmao(m): 7:17am On Mar 21, 2018 |
How regular is power supply?How many households have pre-pay meters?So many things are going wrong with this present government across all sectors. 1 Like |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 7:41am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91:And thus ur blaming Nigerians for lack of electricity? We We don't need 300 - 900 billion dollars to generate the needed electricity in Nigeria. 300 billion dollars can build plants to generate 3GW, i.e 300,000 MW which far far more than we need. 1 Like |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 7:53am On Mar 21, 2018 |
LaudableXX: No such thing as free lunch No such thing as free lunch there is no such such thing as a free lunch, There is no such thing a social security lock box, Then why do the politician types, Talk to us and give us all this hype, They know better than that, But do we better than them? This is problem in our society, We are all looking for something free! Some look for free lunches, Other for tax loop holes, Still other look for us, They don't have to plot or plan, they think we won't listen, And these are our politicians! They go to Washington, And learn how to get around, In this process they find out, What politics is really all about! it is about robbing Peter to pay Paul, They explain it wasn't reall a robbery, It is just like a game. You see in the world of politics, There are no rights and wrongs. You are always right until you get caught, And when you are caught, Your defense is without a doubt, Well they elected me, Obviously they wanted me, To serve this nation and provide, More jobs and a great deal of pride. I've done both and now I boast, I did it different then most. I lied! N. Bagratuni. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 7:58am On Mar 21, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: Actually $100bn is needed to fix the transmission system.... The Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo, said close to 10 billion dollars about N1.6 trillion investment was needed to double the power generation capacity of the country. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by patonyx1: 8:37am On Mar 21, 2018 |
The useless NERC wouldn't initiate better ideas to improve the electricity firstly, rather than increase the tariffs. They're there to regulate (benefit) their pockets and the DISCOs. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by waveman2: 8:47am On Mar 21, 2018 |
My friend ur just an arsenal lack of thinking is depleting ur brain cells. Bcoz u,ve narrowly escaped poverty through the petition salary u collect u don't think of others during I poverty everyday in this country to make such a ridiculous statement. It people like u that has made this country backward. Youth of our generation. Spew. LaudableXX: |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by waveman2: 8:55am On Mar 21, 2018 |
ThankGod for ur wisdom it shows u, really not stupid after all. U just need to think a little. Rome was not built in a day, things are done one step at a time. I would like to talk more more on this matter with u cos I can see u,re intelligent and not all this kids on NL. Cromcruach91: |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 9:27am On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: Bring a major news media link to back up this ur claim from nebo which is obviously fatally wrong. Like i said 100 billion dollars would comfortably generate 2GW (talk more of 900 billion dollars, almost a trillion), we don't need that for now. We need as little as 60,000MW now to get unlimited power supply across nigeria n to kick off towards industrialization. Now no need to argue these issues, Go and make a research to find out how much it costs to generate 1000MW on average n then narrow it down to find its costs in Nigeria as a result of our cheap labour. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Nobody: 11:11am On Mar 21, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: I'll do you one better, The Guardian Energy Breaking News: Dapchi girls freed by abductors X Energy ‘Nigeria needs $900 billion to fix energy sector in 30 years’ By Sulaimon Salau 13 April 2016 | 2:46 am 3 powerPower supply challenges may jeopardise vision 2020 agenda For Nigeria to properly fix the challenges bedevilling its energy sector, the nation requires about $ 900 billion to further develop the sector over the next 30 years. The statistics revealed by the organisers of the on-going Nigeria Energy Forum at Oriental Hotel, Lekki, Lagos, said the nation also needed no fewer than $ 10 billion in the next few years to reinstate its power infrastructure. According to Innovation and Strategy Lead official, Mrs Bamise Olanrewaju, the forum, which focused on “Energy Access Targets”, is targeted at ensuring that leaders take ambitious decisions to bridge the wide gap between energy demand and supply in Nigeria, in order to achieve national energy access targets and meet the new United Nation Sustainable Development Goals. Olanrewaju, in statement made available to The Guardian said, in other to attract private investment in the sector, “Nigeria has to build new power plants, develop new gas transmission infrastructure, expand the existing electricity transmission and distribution network, develop local manufacturing capabilities for energy systems equipment, and train professionals to operate and maintain the energy system”. Besides, she added that government also needed to develop innovative incentives and mechanisms to leverage private sector investment for development of the energy sector. Lamenting the poor state of the sector in recent times, she pointed out that Nigeria is currently the largest economy in Africa with a population of over 170 million people, of which about 50 per cent of the population have no access to the national electricity grid and only 18 per cent of people living in rural areas have grid access. “The nation has a peak electricity demand of 13000 Mega Watts with an installed on-grid generation capacity of 7500 MW, of which only 4000 MW is operable. About 90 per cent of industrial consumers and a significant number of residential and non-residential consumers provide their own power at huge cost to themselves and the Nigerian economy,” she stated. These technical barriers, according to her, would constrain economic growth and setback Nigeria’s target of being among the world’s top 20 economies by 2020. To address these grand challenges, the Federal Government has been implementing a Power Sector Reform to privatize electricity generation and distribution companies, increase private investment and develop a market-based economy for the power sector. NEF 2016 is hosted on the platform of the Nigerian Institution of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (NIEEE), a division of the Nigerian Society of Engineers (NSE). The group however lamented that women are adversely affected by the lack of renewable energy solutions, as they are most often the primary energy managers in their households. “This is especially true in developing countries, where women do the cooking and cleaning but lack access to electricity. They often use unsafe methods like kerosene or fires,” it stated. 3 Comments Sponsored Links 3 million kids are learning English with this app. Download it and start the Free Trial! Lingokids | Download on Google Play Sponsored Links You May Like How To Buy US Mega Millions From Your Sofa? 24lottos Drive A Luxury Car Worth Owning - These Are The World's Best Braincherry Sponsored Links Flight Prices You're Not Allowed to See! Save70.com Sponsored Links You May Like The 8 Most Important Steps To Start Your Own Business Bored Articles The 10 Worst Countries To Raise Kids & A Family WomensArticle Sponsored Links Top 20 magnificent eyes from around world WoJournals Sponsored Links You May Like Top 5: New Luxury SUVs SUV | Sponsored Links Boost Your Metabolism Using This Natural Solution! Row Road for Advocare Sponsored Links Playing US MegaMillions From Your Mobile Has Never Been So Easy 24lottos Sponsored Links You May Like Thanks to This site, You Can Now Play the USA Lottery 24lottos How Much Do These 10 Celebs Pay For Home Insurance ? Braincherry Recommended For You Babangida’s son, Mohammed for Niger East Senate seat Pastor’s wife dies during service, for burial tomorrow RELATED NERC introduces new meter regulations to eliminate estimated billing 6 hours ago Eni boosts corporate social responsibility in IDP areas 6 hours ago AfDB strategises towards provision of power to rural communities 6 hours ago Manufacturers raise the alarm over meter ownership monopoly 14 Mar HomeAbout UsFlightsAdvertise With UsTerms Powered by Ventra Copyright © 2018 Guardian Newspapers. All Rights Reserved. https://t.guardian.ng/energy/nigeria-needs-900-billion-to-fix-energy-sector-in-30-years/ Do read up. |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 12:50pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
waveman2: Your comment is not just daft, it is clueless. So if you live in a neighbourhood, and govt does not fix the potholes in the roads within that neighbourhood, what would you advocate? Ignore the potholes until they become craters, so that your car keeps getting damaged each time you pass through the road, and you spend huge sums fixing that car, each time this happens? Or pool a few resources together with other members of your community, so that you can fix the potholes using joint community effort? Which one? Your answer will tell me, if you are a cretin or a practical thinker....! |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 12:53pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
Cromcruach91: You were asked to provide answers to cogent, valid questions. But instead of doing so, you resorted to this puerile babble that does not add any value to the subject under discussion, in any way. It is sad that you had to resort to this, in order to carry out the bidding of your paymasters in the electricity sector. The DisCos are trying to inflich higher tariffs on the poor masses, because such DisCos are all looking for a free lunch from the masses, instead of actually embarking on a debt recovery drive from govt agencies, and using such recovered funds to improve their operations in the electricity sector. Anyway, these same DisCos have been unable to provide the most basic customer service to their consumers, so why would they be able to offer adequate technical services to revamp their operations? It is so clear that DisCo owners lack the technical expertise to think outside the box, and improve their services. They also thought that by buying up the distribution companies, they would have an easy ride into wealth. What a pity. I guess now that it has just dawned on them, that they are unlikely to get free lunches from the masses, they are trying to use fair means or foul, to get their way. But people are much wiser, now.
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Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 1:27pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: PrecisionFx: Thank you, o jare! Don't mind that shallow blogger with a one-track mind, hired by the DisCos to recycle their petty demands for increased tariffs ad nauseum, that cannot be justified under any guise. The greatest problem is actually the national grid, or transmission network which needs to be fixed. But the transmission company is under the control of the federal govt. And the same federal govt has spent 2.7 trillion in over 16 years on the power sector with very little to show for it. More IPP plants are needed, and more DisCos. I believe we need to decentralise the DisCos. Let each district have its own DisCo. Allow people to buy power, from wherever they can. Using micro-grids which are an aggregation of the loosely-coupled, autonomous and independent local network called “clusters”, an expansion in the scale can easily be achieved as the additional power demand arises. Electricity tariffs were increased less than two years ago, under the MYTO scheme by the DisCos. None of them ever came out openly to say how much the increase translated to, in real terms, or how much was realised from the increase and how it was spent. We did not witness any appreciable improvement in electricity supply in many parts of the country, despite the increase in tariffs. Now they have come up with unrealistic figures like 300 billion USD which they are throwing around with reckless abandon, and which cannot be justified under any known parameters, as the sum they would need to ensure stable supply of electricity. I can bet you, that if that money somehow magically appears today, it will go down the drain with half of it ending up in private pockets. And there would still be little or nothing to show for it. Negligible improvements in power supply, and very little to justify the expense. Where is the 300 billion USD going to come from? What is the total amount in circulation within the country? Is there any proof that the total adult working population within Nigeria, have anything close to that sum in their pockets or bank accounts? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by waveman2: 1:39pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
If we keep ignoring these things Nigeria will never be a better place that is why we must hold our leaders accountable. I have been paying for buying of poles for my community to patching of potholes on our road but I decided to put a stop to it when this same government people came to mount roadblock to collect local government revenue on that same road. If the people in France did not stand up to their leaders do you think that France would be where it is today. Dubai another close example. The day my boss blasted me that we Nigerian youth to know our priority and all what we think about is how to make money ,marry and raise familes in a country we provide our electricity,water ,healthcare etc I agreed with him. He said if this was happening in Europe there would have been a revolution and I agreed. LaudableXX: |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by LaudableXX: 1:47pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
waveman2: So if this was really what informed your thinking, why the heck did you respond to my previous post in that petty manner? Or were you not the same one who wrote this comment below? waveman2: And if you think there should be a revolution, no problem. Make sure you are the one standing in front to lead such a revolution, with your own household. Then, others would follow. Finally, if you decide to stop patching the roads, then simply be prepared to pay more money for fixing your car. Simple. Holding our present crop of leaders accountable is a herculean task. We have a faulty major road in my area. Letters have been written to the relevant govt agencies but nothing has been done till date. Someone even snapped a picture and sent to to a TV station, and it was aired on Channel TV news. That road has still not been sorted out. Getting govt agencies to patch faulty roads is like passing a camel through the needle's eye. Until we can reform govt institutions to offer better services to the public, and until we elect more capable leaders with integrity into office, we are stuck with patching the roads to save ourselves money in the long run! |
Re: Electricity Consumers To Pay More In New NERC Regulation by Cantshout: 2:13pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
Exactly! Then the increase will be justified Cromcruach91: |
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