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ifenes:
Anu is regarded by the Anunnaki as the king of Kings. Anu himself forbid giving knowledge to the slave humans. Anu himself stayed in Nibiru while he appointed Enlil( Yahweh) to be the overall governor of Earth, while Enki was the chief scientist in charge of multiplying the slaves. So Samjaza must have been another phasing who felt pity for the humans. Procreating with them was the great sin. I have a feeling those who spoke to Enoch were the Rebels who rivalled Anu.

Putting aside Humans, the Anunaki were involved in wars with other star system in the Great War of the Orion belt. They were at work for millions of years with the Pleiades who may have purposely created hybrid human race to rival the Annunaki. Do not forget the book of Genesis also claimed the Sons of god were scared of the city the human ( hybrid humans plus rebel Anunaki ) were building. They came down to destroy it. Why ? Do you know ? Because Enlil himself was cared of humans becoming intelligent enough to rule a Nibiru.

If we take the word “God” out of the equation. We will get better understanding of the bible. God is a reference to Anu and Enlil. Most times Christians mix them together. But who and what is God ? Why is it said heaven is made of gold ?

Actually there are different viewpoints to this story of creation and the creation of man, and the great flood... and I must admit, your point of view is also convincing...

However, let us put on our detective caps and see my viewpoint as well. Then you can also ask your questions.

1) In the beginning God (not the gods) created the Heavens and the Earth...

2) God said let us create man in our image and likeness...

3) He created man from the "dust of the earth" (bear in mind that the Annunaki story talks of creating humans by manipulating the DNA of already existing life form by Enki...thus, they were not solely responsible for how man evolved from simple/single celled life forms into complex life forms we currently exist as)

4) God Almighty who created man (and obviously has his user manual) planted two trees in the centre of the garden, but instructed man not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (this is where everything falls apart - why create the bloody tree if you don't want man to eat from it YET )

5) A serpent comes along and tricks Eve into eating the fruit. Eve also gave her husband to eat...

6) Their eyes "opened" and their first reaction was shame and guilt...

7) God curses man and the serpent...and gave a seed of prophecy that a seed of the woman will crush the head of the Serpent...

8-) This prophecy of hope and restoration (i.e. seed of the woman) is told from generation to generation prior to when the "Sons of God" fell in love with the daughters of men

9) The Serpent being tricky and very deceitful appears in various forms... deceives the watchers (Sons of God) and the women...that one of these unholy marriage can result into this seed of prophecy...

10) But what was the end result? The untainted bloodline of the Adamic stock becomes corrupted by the "Sons of God" and Nephilims/Giant tyrants roamed the earth displaying their wickedness...

11) The goal of the serpent was to corrupt the bloodlines of the woman (Eve) and thus ending the channel through which the seed of hope will come...

12) If the Serpent had succeeded (if not for Noah), then God would have destroyed Earth and restart the creation process as He did between Genesis 1v1 and Genesis 1v2...



PLEASE TAKE OUT TIME TO PATIENTLY VIEW ALL THESE POINTS AND ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS...

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OkCornel:
Actually there are different viewpoints to this story of creation and the creation of man, and the great flood... and I must admit, your point of view is also convincing...

However, let us put on our detective caps and see my viewpoint as well. Then you can also ask your questions.

1) In the beginning God (not the gods) created the Heavens and the Earth...

There is no creator. The Earth and Universe at large are the wonders( illusion) of consciousness/ our various minds. Experience of a human being is what we humans choose to be aware of. This is esoteric knowledge. The bible scholars did well to mix up the various spiritual knowledge and Anunaki knowledge to create a god religious people created into reality. Otherwise this god ideology doesn't exist. It is a tool of control. I never said the Anunaki created the planet. They like us are Oneness, experiencing itself as many. The only person who is your creator is your true self, otherwise you are eternal.

2) God said let us create man in our image and likeness...

3) He created man from the "dust of the earth" (bear in mind that the Annunaki story talks of creating humans by manipulating the DNA of already existing life form by Enki...thus, they were not solely responsible for how man evolved from simple/single celled life forms into complex life forms we currently exist as)

You are obviously telling the story of the corrupted version of the anunaki and other non- terrestrial life forms genetically modifying humans. Creating man from dust and breathing into it is a pure measure of control. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed you believe this. Isn't it obvious it was science ? Creating a body that can be powered by consciousness shouldn't be hard for a civilisation superior to ours for billions of years.

4) God Almighty who created man (and obviously has his user manual) planted two trees in the centre of the garden, but instructed man not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (this is where everything falls apart - why create the bloody tree if you don't want man to eat from it YET )

5) A serpent comes along and tricks Eve into eating the fruit. Eve also gave her husband to eat...

6) Their eyes "opened" and their first reaction was shame and guilt...

7) God curses man and the serpent...and gave a seed of prophecy that a seed of the woman will crush the head of the Serpent...

8-) This prophecy of hope and restoration (i.e. seed of the woman) is told from generation to generation prior to when the "Sons of God" fell in love with the daughters of men

9) The Serpent being tricky and very deceitful appears in various forms... deceives the watchers (Sons of God) and the women...that one of these unholy marriage can result into this seed of prophecy...

10) But what was the end result? The untainted bloodline of the Adamic stock becomes corrupted by the "Sons of God" and Nephilims/Giant tyrants roamed the earth displaying their wickedness...

11) The goal of the serpent was to corrupt the bloodlines of the woman (Eve) and thus ending the channel through which the seed of hope will come...

12) If the Serpent had succeeded (if not for Noah), then God would have destroyed Earth and restart the creation process as He did between Genesis 1v1 and Genesis 1v2...



PLEASE TAKE OUT TIME TO PATIENTLY VIEW ALL THESE POINTS AND ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS...

Thanks once more

Sorry I cannot have this discussion any further, my time is precious. You can believe what you like. Good luck sir !

ifenes:
There is no creator. The Earth and Universe at large are the wonders( illusion) of consciousness/ our various minds. Experience of a human being is what we humans choose to be aware of. This is esoteric knowledge. The bible scholars did well to mix up the various spiritual knowledge and Anunaki knowledge to create a god religious people created into reality. Otherwise this god ideology doesn't exist. It is a tool of control. I never said the Anunaki created the planet. They like us are Oneness, experiencing itself as many. The only person who is your creator is your true self, otherwise you are eternal.




You are obviously telling the story of the corrupted version of the anunaki and other non- terrestrial life forms genetically modifying humans. Creating man from dust and breathing into it is a pure measure of control. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed you believe this. Isn't it obvious it was science ? Creating a body that can be powered by consciousness shouldn't be hard for a civilisation superior to ours for billions of years.



Sorry I cannot have this discussion any further, my time is precious. You can believe what you like. Good luck sir !

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You tire shey?

OkCornel:
I believe man is a soul rather than spirit. At the point of death...the Spirit goes back to the owner (God)...and it's the soul that is judged...
Thankfully, every man has a Spirit (which is a fragment of God in man)...if he heeds to it...good ... if he doesn't, he's got no excuse on the day of judgment...whether he has heard about Jesus or not.

We are saying the same thing nau? Every man has a spirit and a soul, but which of these component is more active will determines the one in charge of the vehicle (the body).

God created Man first a Spirit (in His image), gave him a soul, (the mind, consciousness/conscience, emotions) to enable him function and operate in his domain and dominate it. But at creation Man didn't know he was a spirit who lived in a body. When he was told that when he ate from the tree he'd die, he thought it was the dead of his body. When Eve didn't drop dead after eating from the fruit, that gave him the moral to eat also, he ate and died (spiritually).

The Spirit (real him) which connected Man to God, got separated from his maker. The soul was left in a fix, it needed to worship and fellowship with someone, because it was created to worship (ignore those who say there's no God, they worship something that something can be money or themselves).

A man craves to worship something, just like a man must bare rule and take charge/control of his environment. This was spoken into his innate consciousness before he even saw the sun. (Go into the world and Dominate). When you take away power and authority from a man you had killed him.

(Adam messed up the world from Eden. He sat back and let his wife bore rule over him. She determine what they ate and did. She wasn't put in her place, 'under her husband'. God commands the man, the commands his wife and there shall be peace. But Adam was a weakling who got carried away by her naked breast pointed breast, see were that got us)

Anyways, Man started seeking for ways to reconnect back to his maker, but he couldn't. This was the birth of Religion.

Note that religion is Man's attempt to reach God in ways possible to him. But, God never gave man a religion, He only wants fellowship. Communion. Father and Son talking, sharing and listening to each other. God finds those He wants out, no one can find God out.

He chooses us, we can never choose Him. When you try, you'd meet satan the deceiver.

When Man was separated from God, that's when the one who deceived him presented himself as the creator (but stood aloof), the more the man tried to get closer, the more satan retrieved further away. The man keeps wondering who his God was and how to appease him to come closer, but no. If man knows that satan was the one in Eden who caused him to Fall, he'd turn away, hence, man us made to even think satan does not exist.

All these activities are done by the soul, for the spirit is dormant at this point.

Check, all the world's religions, you'd never find anyone with a father/son relationship only YHWH. They know their deities only as God, not father.

The Spirit of a man never sins, so the spirit can not and will not stand judged, but the soul will, because, lusts of all kinds started in the mind (the soul) then tasked the body to carry out the actions of sin.

Good morning.

budaatum:
That's the Spirit!

Good mirning good sir.

OkCornel:
Good morning all,

Sincere apologies for not keeping up last night...
Got home and slept off quickly...I was EXHAUSTED...

Back to the matter on ground...

What is the matter on ground? ?

OkCornel:
Very good...This is what I mean as "God"

1) The Master of the Universe/Multiverse
2) The Uncreated One
3) The Starting point of the Multiversal cycle
4) The Starting point of the story of creation and all forms of Consciousness...
5) The Eternal One and Father of all creation (I personally think God is not a gender-specific being: I am open to correction here)


Bear in mind that God never changes...however, it is the way man perceives and views Him that changes over time...That is why I am not inclined to label God with religious name(s) like:

1) YHWH (According to Moses' revelation and the Jews understanding of who God Almighty is),
2) Olodumare, Abasi, Chukwu (According to our Nigerian ancestors' understanding and revelation of who God Amighty is)
3) Aten (According to Akhenaten's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)
4) Anu (According to the Sumerian's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)...

All I know is that HE EXISTS... and Jesus gave a very accurate explanation of His unchanging nature...

Take out time to read Jesus' parables and explanations on the Father...and compare it to the God of the Old Testament...then tell me what you think. You'll notice something different

Now going by the above description of God, do you think Anu fits into the bill?

To answer this question, let me give you a hint. If you have taken time to study how planets are formed (this process of planet and star creation is still ongoing and will forever continue as the Universe evolves), can you conclude that Anu is responsible for creating stars and planets?

Good line of queries.

ifenes:
There is no creator. The Earth and Universe at large are the wonders( illusion) of consciousness/ our various minds. Experience of a human being is what we humans choose to be aware of. This is esoteric knowledge. The bible scholars did well to mix up the various spiritual knowledge and Anunaki knowledge to create a god religious people created into reality. Otherwise this god ideology doesn't exist. It is a tool of control. I never said the Anunaki created the planet. They like us are Oneness, experiencing itself as many. The only person who is your creator is your true self, otherwise you are eternal.

1) If you say there is no creator...then how did life come to exist on earth in the first place?
2) How are planets and stars formed in the Universe? They are not illusions... if you do some research on the Universe and Universal energy...there are conditions and processes in place necessary for creation of these. If so, is this process also an illusion?

ifenes:
You are obviously telling the story of the corrupted version of the anunaki and other non- terrestrial life forms genetically modifying humans. Creating man from dust and breathing into it is a pure measure of control. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed you believe this. Isn't it obvious it was science ? Creating a body that can be powered by consciousness shouldn't be hard for a civilisation superior to ours for billions of years.

Per the bolded, at this point, I am also disappointed you had to say this because I have never at any point criticized or made any snide remarks about what you chose to believe in.

Please can you tell us the process the Anunnaki went through to create this body that was powered by consciousness? What were the raw materials used?

It also seems you assume that the first person to tell a story automatically means that version of the story is the right and accurate one... I know the Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish predates the Genesis Account... but does it automatically mean the Epic and the Enuma Elish is 100% correct with zero percent of lies and errors in it? Same question goes for the Genesis account...

If you check, I am not concerned about the similarity in the stories...but rather, the differences.

ifenes:
Sorry I cannot have this discussion any further, my time is precious. You can believe what you like. Good luck sir !

Just when the discussion was getting interesting, you decided to leave. Oh well, my time is precious as well...and you can believe in whatever you like... but never think you have the pure and unadulterated truth about the history of mankind...as a matter of fact...no one or book does...

Except God Almighty who knows the distant past...

correctguy101:
hahahahahahahahahaha, my chest o

You tire shey?

Got anything intellectual to add?

I think we have all gone past this stage on this thread...

I'd like to hear your point of view as well...

Thanks

ifenes:
There is no creator. The Earth and Universe at large are the wonders( illusion) of consciousness/ our various minds. Experience of a human being is what we humans choose to be aware of. This is esoteric knowledge. The bible scholars did well to mix up the various spiritual knowledge and Anunaki knowledge to create a god religious people created into reality. Otherwise this god ideology doesn't exist. It is a tool of control. I never said the Anunaki created the planet. They like us are Oneness, experiencing itself as many. The only person who is your creator is your true self, otherwise you are eternal.




You are obviously telling the story of the corrupted version of the anunaki and other non- terrestrial life forms genetically modifying humans. Creating man from dust and breathing into it is a pure measure of control. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed you believe this. Isn't it obvious it was science ? Creating a body that can be powered by consciousness shouldn't be hard for a civilisation superior to ours for billions of years.



Sorry I cannot have this discussion any further, my time is precious. You can believe what you like. Good luck sir !

I knew you'd run. because, if you try to answer any of these questions, your backside go just open.

OKCornel, as i was reading down your questions, i thought, 'kai, this guy go pursue ifenes commot from here o'. It happened.

Butterflyl1oin come and see ifenes o.

Emmanystone:
Good line of queries.

ifenes admitted;

1) The Annunaki never created the planet
2) There is no Creator and that the Earth and the Universe are wonders and illusions...

So therefore, on this premise, Anu is not God Almighty...but just a visitor to this planet...

If anything, the Annunakis and the fallen angels per the account of Enoch and Genesis are one and the same set of people...

PastorAIO:
I do not dispute that there is a common thread going through all the myths and religions of the world.

Where I disagree is the narrative that it all started with Semiramis and Nimrod. These myths are based on the actual structure of the universe and are depictions of how the world works.

The Semiramis of history lived around 800bc during the assyrian Empire. The same Assyrian Empire that destroyed the 10 tribes of Israel and took them captive. This all happened Centuries upon centuries after the time the Tower of Babel incident was said to have happened. After Abraham, after Moses, After King David and Solomon.

So where did that false narrative that we find in the video come from? It came from a guy called Hislop.


The nineteenth-century Scottish minister Alexander Hislop claimed in his book The Two Babylons (1853) that Semiramis was an actual person in ancient Mesopotamia who invented polytheism and, with it, goddess worship.[24] Modern scholars have unanimously rejected the book's arguments as erroneous and based on a flawed understanding of the texts,[25][26] but variations of them are accepted among some groups of evangelical Protestants.[25][26]

Hislop believed that Semiramis was a consort and mother of Nimrod, builder of the Bible's Tower of Babel, although biblical mention of consorts to Nimrod is lacking.[25] Hislop believed Semiramis and Nimrod's incestuous male offspring to be the Akkadian deity Tammuz, a god of vegetation, as well as a life-death-rebirth deity. Hislop maintained that all divine pairings in religions, such as Isis and Osiris and Aphrodite and Cupid, are retellings of the tale of Semiramis and Tammuz. Hislop took literary references to Osiris and Orion as "seed of woman" as evidence in support of his thesis. This all led up to Hislop's central claim: that the Catholic Church is a veiled continuation of the pagan religion of ancient Babylon, the product of a millennia-old secret conspiracy founded by Semiramis and Nimrod.[25]

Hislop's claims are still circulated among some groups of evangelical Protestants,[25][26] in the form of Jack Chick tracts,[27] comic books, and related media. Author and conspiracy theorist David Icke incorporates Hislop's claims about Semiramis into his book The Biggest Secret, claiming that Semiramis also had a key role in the Reptilian alien conspiracy that he asserts is secretly controlling humanity.[28]

Scholars have dismissed Hislop's speculations as incorrect and based on misunderstandings.[25][26] Lester L. Grabbe has highlighted the fact that Hislop's argument, particularly his association of Ninus with Nimrod, is based on a misunderstanding of historical Babylon and its religion.[25] Grabbe also criticizes Hislop for portraying Semiramis as Nimrod's consort, despite the fact that she is never even mentioned in a single text associated with him,[25] and for portraying her as the "mother of harlots", even though this is not how she is depicted in any of the texts where she is mentioned.[25] Ralph Woodrow has stated that Alexander Hislop was an exceptionally poor researcher who "picked, chose and mixed" portions of various unrelated myths from many different cultures.[29] - Wikipedia

Hi, good morning.

I am still yet to respond to this, but I'll do so later today.

Sincere apologies for the delay.

OkCornel:
ifenes admitted;

1) The Annunaki never created the planet
2) There is no Creator and that the Earth and the Universe are wonders and illusions...

So therefore, on this premise, Anu is not God Almighty...but just a visitor to this planet...

If anything, the Annunakis and the fallen angels per the account of Enoch and Genesis are one and the same set of people...

One last clerification. Anu is the god almighty of the Christians. Sometimes they mix it up with Enlil( otherwise known as Yahweh/ Jehovah). These were beings who visited the earth according to the oldest written history of man found. Okay ? The idea an almighty god came from the stories of the Anunaki visiting the earth. The singular God was created to hide the identities of these beings. They themselves came from other civilisations.

Man just want to worship anything. There is no creator, no god, nothing, except you and I.

If anyone wants to worship a God, look to your neighbors and appreciate them. That is you appreciating God. Primitive men worship god because they saw them with technology. Today people worship god because the idea was passed down to them by their ancestors

The bible is not a religious book, it was compiled by those who wanted to hide knowledge

OkCornel:
1) If you say there is no creator...then how did life come to exist on earth in the first place?
2) How are planets and stars formed in the Universe? They are not illusions... if you do some research on the Universe and Universal energy...there are conditions and processes in place necessary for creation of these. If so, is this process also an illusion?




Per the bolded, at this point, I am also disappointed you had to say this because I have never at any point criticized or made any snide remarks about what you chose to believe in.

Please can you tell us the process the Anunnaki went through to create this body that was powered by consciousness? What were the raw materials used?

It also seems you assume that the first person to tell a story automatically means that version of the story is the right and accurate one... [b]I know the Epic of Gilgamesh and Enuma Elish predates the Genesis Account... [/b]but does it automatically mean the Epic and the Enuma Elish is 100% correct with zero percent of lies and errors in it? Same question goes for the Genesis account...

If you check, I am not concerned about the similarity in the stories...but rather, the differences.



Just when the discussion was getting interesting, you decided to leave. Oh well, my time is precious as well...and you can believe in whatever you like... but never think you have the pure and unadulterated truth about the history of mankind...as a matter of fact...no one or book does...

Except God Almighty who knows the distant past...

@the bolded. Sir, if you say you know that indeed Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gil predates Genesis, you'd be saying 'You know that the Universe/Multiverse was created by Moses and that the Universe was created when the account was written down'.

Sir. No one knows when the Universe was created because the dates were not given.

Moses was dictated to on Mount Sinai what had happened from God knew when. As at when Moses took notes of the creation story, as the creator showed him the distance past, the Sumarians had already lived for long, and has had their own perverted account of the creation from the demon who pretended he was God. How do i know?

Abraham was from Sumaria and Mesopotamia was already a civilized place before he left Ur. And count how many generations spanned from Abraham to Moses. Yet Moses saw Abraham through the eyes of God and wrote about him and his generation. Again, lets count how many generations spanned between Abraham to Adam. These generations are dated, so we can enumerate them.

BUT.
We are going to get seriously stuck when trying to decipher the time span between 'LET THERE BE LIGHT TO, ADAM WAS thrown OUT OF EDEN TO FARM THE GROUND From where he was formed. WHY?

because, time wasn't counting YET, so the Universe could have been existing for Billions of yrs before the Fall of Man. And since time wasn't counting, there was no aging and since there was no aging, there was no death.

Now, the interesting thing is, Epic of Gil or Enuma Elish is dated, this is how i know the writers of these accounts were lied to by a lying spirit. Remeber satan was down here before the creation of the Universe and his eyes were not blinded or his ears blocked not to see the process or hear what was said while creation was going on.

Another point is. WHY are these accounts so hooked on the creation and especially the FLOOD stories only?

Remeber, it was at this point satan thought to corrupt the SEED OF THE WOMAN(?). I think satan quickly ran ahead to give his own account hoping the first to speak will be believed as the truth.

Bro Muttleylaff said something about lies running sprints making a headstart but truth running marathons enduring forever.

No be who call police the win case o.

OkCornel:
Got anything intellectual to add?

I think we have all gone past this stage on this thread...

I'd like to hear your point of view as well...

Thanks

Leave that guy o, he is supperly smart but will never say much. He is very stingy with his knowledge .

Big bros @correctguy101, i hail o

OkCornel:
ifenes admitted;

1) The Annunaki never created the planet
2) There is no Creator and that the Earth and the Universe are wonders and illusions...

So therefore, on this premise, Anu is not God Almighty...but just a visitor to this planet...

If anything, the Annunakis and the fallen angels per the account of Enoch and Genesis are one and the same set of people...

Dem no go gree. Who the gods wants to kill, they first make mad. Na so dem talj for hia.

ifenes:
One last clerification. Anu is the god almighty of the Christians. Sometimes they mix it up with Enlil( otherwise known as Yahweh/ Jehovah). These were beings who visited the earth according to the oldest written history of man found. Okay ? The idea an almighty god came from the stories of the Anunaki visiting the earth. The singular God was created to hide the identities of these beings. They themselves came from other civilisations.

Man just want to worship anything. There is no creator, no god, nothing, except you and I.

If anyone wants to worship a God, look to your neighbors and appreciate them. That is you appreciating God. Primitive men worship god because they saw them with technology. Today people worship god because the idea was passed down to them by their ancestors

The bible is not a religious book, it was compiled by those who wanted to hide knowledge

Can you pls go back and answer the questions he asked you?

ifenes:
One last clerification. Anu is the god almighty of the Christians. Sometimes they mix it up with Enlil( otherwise known as Yahweh/ Jehovah). These were beings who visited the earth according to the oldest written history of man found. Okay ? The idea an almighty god came from the stories of the Anunaki visiting the earth. The singular God was created to hide the identities of these beings. They themselves came from other civilisations.

Man just want to worship anything. There is no creator, no god, nothing, except you and I.

If anyone wants to worship a God, look to your neighbors and appreciate them. That is you appreciating God. Primitive men worship god because they saw them with technology. Today people worship god because the idea was passed down to them by their ancestors

The bible is not a religious book, it was compiled by those who wanted to hide knowledge

I'm not concerned about what's in the Bible per se... I am seeking the TRUTH.

That's why I have compared the Genesis Account with other extra-biblical sources like the book of Enoch, the book of Jasher, the Antiquity of the Jews. I have also considered the Epic of Gilgamesh, The Urantia Papers.

I also considered Universal Science, Astronomy, History and Archaeology...

My head is not fixed in the Bible alone... And I still have some unanswered questions in the story of creation in which only God Almighty can answer...

OkCornel:
I'm not concerned about what's in the Bible per se... I am seeking the TRUTH.

That's why I have compared the Genesis Account with other extra-biblical sources like the book of Enoch, the book of Jasher, the Antiquity of the Jews. I have also considered the Epic of Gilgamesh, The Urantia Papers.

I also considered Universal Science, Astronomy, History and Archaeology...

My head is not fixed in the Bible alone... And I still have some unanswered questions in the story of creation in which only God Almighty can answer...

Who is god almighty ?

Emmanystone:
@the bolded. Sir, if you say you know that indeed Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gil predates Genesis, you'd be saying 'You know that the Universe/Multiverse was created by Moses and that the Universe was created when the account was written down'.

Sir. No one knows when the Universe was created because the dates were not given.

Moses was dictated to on Mount Sinai what had happened from God knew when. As at when Moses took notes of the creation story, as the creator showed him the distance past, the Sumarians had already lived for long, and has had their own perverted account of the creation from the demon who pretended he was God. How do i know?

Abraham was from Sumaria and Mesopotamia was already a civilized place before he left Ur. And count how many generations spanned from Abraham to Moses. Yet Moses saw Abraham through the eyes of God and wrote about him and his generation. Again, lets count how many generations spanned between Abraham to Adam. These generations are dated, so we can enumerate them.

BUT.
We are going to get seriously stuck when trying to decipher the time span between 'LET THERE BE LIGHT TO, ADAM WAS thrown OUT OF EDEN TO FARM THE GROUND From where he was formed. WHY?

because, time wasn't counting YET, so the Universe could have been existing for Billions of yrs before the Fall of Man. And since time wasn't counting, there was no aging and since there was no aging, there was no death.

Now, the interesting thing is, Epic of Gil or Enuma Elish is dated, this is how i know the writers of these accounts were lied to by a lying spirit. Remeber satan was down here before the creation of the Universe and his eyes were not blinded or his ears blocked not to see the process or hear what was said while creation was going on.

Another point is. WHY are these accounts so hooked on the creation and especially the FLOOD stories only?

Remeber, it was at this point satan thought to corrupt the SEED OF THE WOMAN(?). I think satan quickly ran ahead to give his own account hoping the first to speak will be believed as the truth.

Bro Muttleylaff said something about lies running sprints making a headstart but truth running marathons enduring forever.

No be who call police the win case o.

Per the bolded, that is why I mentioned to ifenes that its not the first person that tells the story of creation that automatically means the story is the right and accurate one...

On a personal note, I believe the Annunaki story and the Fallen Angels are the same set of people...

ifenes:
Who is god almighty ?

I thought I have answered this question when you asked me to define who God is?

If you want to know who God Almighty is... I suggest you read what Jesus said about Him.

He is the Father of All...and not just the Jews alone...

ifenes:
One last clerification. Anu is the god almighty of the Christians. Sometimes they mix it up with Enlil( otherwise known as Yahweh/ Jehovah). These were beings who visited the earth according to the oldest written history of man found. Okay ? The idea an almighty god came from the stories of the Anunaki visiting the earth. The singular God was created to hide the identities of these beings. They themselves came from other civilisations.

Man just want to worship anything. There is no creator, no god, nothing, except you and I.

If anyone wants to worship a God, look to your neighbors and appreciate them. That is you appreciating God. Primitive men worship god because they saw them with technology. Today people worship god because the idea was passed down to them by their ancestors

The bible is not a religious book, it was compiled by those who wanted to hide knowledge

If you say Anu is the God Almighty of the Christians...then you are contradicting yourself...

You earlier mentioned that the Annunakis did not create the earth...

Anu is a god...but definitely not God Almighty...

OkCornel:
If you say Anu is the God Almighty of the Christians...then you are contradicting yourself...

You earlier mentioned that the Annunakis did not create the earth...

Anu is a god...but definitely not God Almighty...

I asked a question. Who is the god almighty you say created this planet ?

ifenes:
I asked a question. Who is the god almighty you say created this planet ?

I will refer you back to the answer I gave earlier.

1) The Master of the Universe/Multiverse
2) The Uncreated One
3) The Starting point of the Multiversal cycle
4) The Starting point of the story of creation and all forms of Consciousness...
5) The Eternal One and Father of all creation (I personally think God is not a gender-specific being: I am open to correction here)


Bear in mind that God never changes...however, it is the way man perceives and views Him that changes over time...That is why I am not inclined to label God with religious name(s) like:

1) YHWH (According to Moses' revelation and the Jews understanding of who God Almighty is),
2) Olodumare, Abasi, Chukwu (According to our Nigerian ancestors' understanding and revelation of who God Amighty is)
3) Aten (According to Akhenaten's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)
4) Anu (According to the Sumerian's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)...

All I know is that HE EXISTS... and Jesus gave a very accurate explanation of His unchanging nature...

For us to have a good discussion we must put down all our belief system( I have none). The Anunaki are the god of Genesis chapter one. No one is a fallen angel. The bible is an account inspired by Enlil obviously. No one is god or Satan. These are manipulative words.

ifenes:
For us to have a good discussion we must put down all our belief system( I have none). The Anunaki are the god of Genesis chapter one. No one is a fallen angel. The bible is an account inspired by Enlil obviously. No one is god or Satan. These are manipulative words.

If the Bible is inspired by Enlil... then how come did you conclude earlier that Jesus is Madurk the son of Enki? And why would Enlil want to include the work of Enki's son in the Bible?

Try not to get lost in the manipulative words...

God Almighty never changes... it is man's perception of Him that changes...

That is why it seems the God of the Old testament (Judaism) appeared to be blood thirsty and vengeful...while the God of the New Testament (Christianity) appeared to be more tolerant, accommodating and loving not only to the Jews...but to every race and tribe...

OkCornel:
I will refer you back to the answer I gave earlier.

1) The Master of the Universe/Multiverse
2) The Uncreated One
3) The Starting point of the Multiversal cycle
4) The Starting point of the story of creation and all forms of Consciousness...
5) The Eternal One and Father of all creation (I personally think God is not a gender-specific being: I am open to correction here)


Bear in mind that God never changes...however, it is the way man perceives and views Him that changes over time...That is why I am not inclined to label God with religious name(s) like:

1) YHWH (According to Moses' revelation and the Jews understanding of who God Almighty is),
2) Olodumare, Abasi, Chukwu (According to our Nigerian ancestors' understanding and revelation of who God Amighty is)
3) Aten (According to Akhenaten's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)
4) Anu (According to the Sumerian's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)...

All I know is that HE EXISTS... and Jesus gave a very accurate explanation of His unchanging nature...

You are mixing up the essence of human being with an androgynous entity. God is a corrupted word, that’s why I don’t use it. It basically means “ ALL THAT IS . You and I are a part of it and not in anyway subject to it because we are it.

But the bible put Yahweh in place of your / our essence and Roman Catholic Church delibratly replaced Esoteric knowledge with fake knowledge.

The entity Moses/ Akennakten encountered was Enlil not is true self. There is s big difference. These beings are so advance that they could infiltrate into your mind to manipulate you.

Do not forget the story of pharaoh. The part Enlil/Yahweh manipulated Pharoah’s heart is that he could kill the first borns of the land. You said God almighty doesn’t chose side, but that god clearly chose side.

If we’re to use God in its ideal sense. We can say it is gender less, but the bible uses “ he”. We can say God is not partial, but the bible made us see that God is not only partial but also becomes emotional. We can also say God is love and humility, but it’s clearly not the case in the bible. In fact the bible god demands worship , animal sacrifice at some point, love roasted animals. These are questionable characteristics. The Tower of Babel, saving only Noah, killing those who disobey it with fire ( atomic weapons? ) are just not GOd-like.

You said god is genderless. I personally think you are referring to our true form without a body. Yes we are all genderless beings. We have a gendered body to function on this physical plane which shouldn’t be our identity. But this bible god is against homosexuality, that’s ungodly, don’t you think ?

I agree with you that God is the creator of this reality, this experience we are all having, it’s genderless, non bias, all loving, non judgmental and I must say that is a perfect description of yourself. God in prison of negative illusion about to wake up to its true self.

OkCornel:
Per the bolded, that is why I mentioned to ifenes that its not the first person that tells the story of creation that automatically means the story is the right and accurate one...

On a personal note, I believe the Annunaki story and the Fallen Angels are the same set of people...

Okay and,yes, i do too.

OkCornel:
If the Bible is inspired by Enlil... then how come did you conclude earlier that Jesus is Madurk the son of Enki? And why would Enlil want to include the work of Enki's son in the Bible?

Try not to get lost in the manipulative words...

God Almighty never changes... it is man's perception of Him that changes...

That is why it seems the God of the Old testament (Judaism) appeared to be blood thirsty and vengeful...while the God of the New Testament (Christianity) appeared to be more tolerant, accommodating and loving not only to the Jews...but to every race and tribe...

Marduk is another big story I will take time to tell. Jesus is one of the biggest scam that has worked on humanity. But on a soul level, these are hurdles we the incarnated soul chose to experience for further spiritual development.

Marduk unlike the other Anunaki was born on Nibiru. So he was supposed to be the heir to the throne. However I will discuss this some other time. But you do know that a woman cannot get pregnant via a dream right. So obviously someone mated with her. So the story of Jesus I will tell another time.

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ifenes:
You are mixing up the essence of human being with an androgynous entity. God is a corrupted word, that’s why I don’t use it. It basically means “ ALL THAT IS . You and I are a part of it and not in anyway subject to it because we are it.

But the bible put Yahweh in place of your / our essence and Roman Catholic Church delibratly replaced Esoteric knowledge with fake knowledge.

The entity Moses/ Akennakten encountered was Enlil not is true self. There is s big difference. These beings are so advance that they could infiltrate into your mind to manipulate you.

Do not forget the story of pharaoh. The part Enlil/Yahweh manipulated Pharoah’s heart is that he could kill the first borns of the land. You said God almighty doesn’t chose side, but that god clearly chose side.

If we’re to use God in its ideal sense. We can say it is gender less, but the bible uses “ he”. We can say God is not partial, but the bible made us see that God is not only partial but also becomes emotional. We can also say God is love and humility, but it’s clearly not the case in the bible. In fact the bible god demands worship , animal sacrifice at some point, love roasted animals. These are questionable characteristics. The Tower of Babel, saving only Noah, killing those who disobey it with fire ( atomic weapons? ) are just not GOd-like.

You said god is genderless. I personally think you are referring to our true form without a body. Yes we are all genderless beings. We have a gendered body to function on this physical plane which shouldn’t be our identity. But this bible god is against homosexuality, that’s ungodly, don’t you think ?

I agree with you that God is the creator of this reality, this experience we are all having, it’s genderless, non bias, all loving, non judgmental and I must say that is a perfect description of yourself. God in prison of negative illusion about to wake up to its true self.

First of all, Moses and Akhenaton are not the same person... and by the way, how can Moses and Akhenaten be Enlil? is Enlil a man?

Two, the Jews had evolving views of who God Almighty is. They saw Him as YHWH who is responsible for good and evil. Thus, the account of God hardening Pharoah's heart was borne out of that view...

Later on, the Jews view evolved such that they saw God as responsible for good and Satan is the doer of evil. That is why in the Bible you have conflicting views on who incited David to perform a census in Israel... the earlier account said God tempted David, a much later account stated the Satan tempted David...

And as for whose side God was on? Definitely God Almighty never lets injustice last forever. 430 years of slavery sounds merciful enough for an oppressor to reconsider and change his ways...

When karma sets in to balance the equation... it is seen as a "righteous act" of God...

Whereas, the system has been programmed to correct itself eventually...