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Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by otipoju(m): 11:35pm On Mar 26, 2018
mysticwarrior:
baldadash, u think u can come up here with your fallacious and baseless claims to give credit to your opinion without being questioned? what were you thinking? the credibility of you claims about the video of mini drones and its destructive capability is totally surrounded with questionable doubts, if you are sure of what u said about the drone then give us source with acknowledgeable reference, by doing that i will be convince that you did not escaped from a psychiatric home.

Kwantinue...no be be the source of your problem. Carry as he dey do you go front.

As I tell you before I don't owe YOU in particular a video.

If you like cry from now till easter monday, I no go answer you...highest I go give you bucket to cry put.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by scully95: 11:55pm On Mar 26, 2018
Zoharariel:


Wait! Is this how Russian soldiers & mercenaries speak their own english - using well known Amerikan spoken slangs (e.g fvck, fvcking shiit, fvck up) or was it translated into Amerikan english by the Pentagon? grin cheesy grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTZS9RXrr0

This inflammatory propaganda from the Amerikan & NATO dummies of the MSM is an attempt to push Mother Russia into a hasty & direct confrontation with Israel and the United Snakes of Amerika - since the US Coalition of Terror has failed to take Damascus with proxy terrorists and the only hope for the US and Israel now is to create a situation where they are "Defending themselves" against Russian "aggression" and then launch an all out attack on Russian and Syrian bases. Plus of course, the "obligatory" mass murder of civilians by Israel & Amerika.

Israel has always successfully played the "victim" and the almighty US is now playing the same game - seeing that she can not match Russia's sophisticated & cutting-edge military hardwares - pathetic! grin

Look, Vladimirovich Putin will never fall into this trap and the Russian response - I trust, will be one that Amerika and Israel do not want & have not planned for.

Lastly, according to these western idiots & their minions on Nairaland, only ISIS had air support from the "United Snakes" while the Russian militias were in complete disarray without a radio to call for help. grin

I shake head each time i read comments from these anglozoo wannbe fanboiz. it's really sad how completely uninformed they are and too brainwashed !

It's really sad honestly!

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Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by Nobody: 5:21am On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
ikio you don come again abi, I remember you very well, you were the one that once said " the USA and Russia fought a war for 45years" and when asked to prove with it you couldn't even site any references, Russia don't need to invade the US to force them to compromise, and that is why they are the world power, Cuba missile crisis still lingers in our memory.
Russia is "a" military world power or a world power not "the" world power. All nations compromise so how russia suppose 2 do that when an agreement can't be reached longer compromise?
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by mysticwarrior(m): 6:03am On Mar 27, 2018
JUHABACH:


I think this quora thread should suffice. though the fact that you suggest russia can invade the u.s. makes me rethink taking you seriously.

https://www.quora.com/Does-NATO-stand-a-chance-in-a-war-against-Russia
am still trying to demystify how you could believed such baseless writeup, the writer of that article only made his point out of unreasonable suppositions, and everything he wrote there was an attempt to downplay the Russian military and make it look inferior when compared to the US military, imagine someone saying that Russia has "just one carrier ", chai am still in shock of how you could be convinced with such nonsense.

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Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by JUHABACH: 9:07am On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
am still trying to demystify how you could believed such baseless writeup, the writer of that article only made his point out of unreasonable suppositions, and everything he wrote there was an attempt to downplay the Russian military and make it look inferior when compared to the US military, imagine someone saying that Russia has "just one carrier ", chai am still in shock of how you could be convinced with such nonsense.

sure.
https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=russia

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-russias-only-aircraft-carrier-would-fight-a-us-carrier-2017-11?IR=T

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-only-aircraft-carrier-doomed-22718


don't know what you're talking about. if anything that user did russia a favour and downplayed u.s. resources to bring them down the Russia's level and even admitted that the u.s. wouldn't be able to "conquer" russia (which given its the size of a small continent and has harsh weather conditions, is pretty much impossible).
bruh, I can understand how you feel. though tbh it's pretty cliche to hate on no.1.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by fineguy11(m): 9:41am On Mar 27, 2018
SSGN:
Behind the walls of the Pentagon lies the most powerful military machine the world has ever known since the days of Imperial Rome. In terms of raw combat power the U.S is unmatched. And its not even close. There is literally no other military on the planet that has the power to actually project threat to every other nation on the globe in the conventional sense.

Now I do not wish to sound melodramatic but I do wish to impress upon you that the United States military has an unprecedented and unparalleled ability to destroy. Numerical superiority, quality of weapon systems, rapid deployability of troops, superior logistical operations, recent and relevant combat experience, and the level of training of individual soldiers and combat units all contribute to the reason why the US military is the most powerful in the world.

But sometimes the world is quick to forget this. We look at the America’s 15 year battle with the Taliban, ISIS, etc and are quick to draw parallel. The truth is most conventional armies are not built and trained to fight urban guerrilla fighters who don’t play fair, and who have the media behind them. If al-Queada wore a uniform, and ISIS didn’t hold citizens as human shields, they will be swiped out in minutes.

Unfortunately some countries are pron to look at the insane political correct way the U.S conducts most of its wars and make make judgements based on that and do stupid things. ,until that is, someone gets hurt.

Unfortunately the Russians found out the hard way. A very costly way to learn a lesson sadly.

Recordings have emerged in which Russian mercenaries subjected to a joint U.S. strike that killed dozens of their comrades describe the incident as “a total fuckup.”

Polygraph.info, a Voice of America project, published three recordings, which it received from a source close to the Kremlin. The source said that the recorded phone calls were made by personnel from CHVK Wagner, a Russian private military company.

7 February 2018.

On the night of 7 February 2018, Syrian government forces, backed by Russian Special Forces troops attempted to capture an oil refinery near the Syrian city of Deir Ezzor. Now ordinarily this will seem an irrational and risky move, but the Russian President Vladimir Putin has for months unend been proclaiming the invincibility of the Russian military showcasing its latest missile technologies..and hey, Russian military power did roll back ISIS advance and practically save the Assad Regime after all.

So with confidence and bravado the Russians decided to carry out its suicidal move. Now, either out of ignorance, incompetence or both, they failed to take into account U.S military doctrine. Like i said earlier, the U.S cares a great deal about defenses. American troops coming home in body bags is terrible PR, so a lot is invested in defending its forces. Whether out at sea with its Carrier Battle Groups, or in the dunes of the Middle East, U.S forces are saturated with active and passive defenses for defeating threats.

On land the most prominent of its array of early warning systems is its fleet of Reaper and predator drones that can detect approaching threats over vast distances. These drones and integrated together with forces on the ground for coordinated action against adversaries. As such the Russians and Syrians were unaware the Americans have seen their advance from miles out.

After Russian personnel came into contact with American troops stationed there, the U.S. forces responded with a simultaneous artillery and airstrikes.

Polygraph.info transcribed and translated the conversations recorded.

In the first audio clip, a man says, “One squadron fucking lost 200 people…right away, another one lost 10 people…and I don’t know about the third squadron but it got torn up pretty badly, too…. So three squadrons took a beating.”

The man explains that American forced used artillery and helicopter gunships to repel the assault.

“They were all shelling the holy Bleep out of it, and our guys didn’t have anything besides the assault rifles…. Nothing at all, I’m not even talking about shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that…. They tore us to pieces, put us through hell,” he says.

The speaker is also critical of the Russian government’s response to the incident, saying :

“They beat our asses like we were little pieces of shit…but our fucking government will go in reverse now, and nobody will respond or anything and nobody will punish anyone for this.”

“My guys just called me, they are sitting there drinking, many are MIA, it’s a total fuckup, another humiliation…. Nobody gives a Bleep about us.”

In a second clip, a man explains that the battle quickly descended into a massacre as the Russians lost all armored support.

“Out of all vehicles only one tank survived and one BRDM (Armored Reconnaissance Vehicle) after the attack, all other BRDMs and tanks were destroyed in the first minutes of the fight, right away.”

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A Russian military personnel in a military helicopter in Syria.
In the third clip, a man can be heard explaining the Russian convoy was a few hundred meters away from target when the American forces raised their flag and hit the Russians with a heavy artillery barrage, wiping out the first column instantly. “We got our fucking asses beat rough, the Yankees made their point,” he said. “What were they hoping for, that the Yankees are just going to Bleep off?… It’s bullshit, some people can’t even be fucking ID’ed, too many people there.”

In another of the clips, a man claims, “There are about 215 fucking killed” on the Russian side.

It has been reported that up to 300 Russians may have died in the strikes. The Kremlin initially denied all reports of Russians being involved in the incident. However, in recent days, Russia’s foreign ministry has acknowledged that “several dozen” Russians were killed or wounded.

A foreign ministry report said, “Russian service members did not take part in any capacity, and Russian equipment was not used.” It said those involved were “Russian citizens” who were in Syria “of their own free will and for different reasons.”

https://defensenigeria.com/2018/03/24/hidden-facts-the-day-u-s-forces-massacred-300-russian-soldiers-in-syria/
You dont know the fact of that story.Those Russian personnel killed were actually mercenaries,fighting for pure monetary gains and not Russian special forces..they took a big gamble and it failed woefully....it it were a Russian operation,they wont have gone in blind(without air cover).
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by mysticwarrior(m): 10:54am On Mar 27, 2018
JUHABACH:


sure.
https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=russia

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-russias-only-aircraft-carrier-would-fight-a-us-carrier-2017-11?IR=T

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-only-aircraft-carrier-doomed-22718


don't know what you're talking about. if anything that user did russia a favour and downplayed u.s. resources to bring them down the Russia's level and even admitted that the u.s. wouldn't be able to "conquer" russia (which given its the size of a small continent and has harsh weather conditions, is pretty much impossible).
bruh, I can understand how you feel. though tbh it's pretty cliche to hate on no.1.
pls go and read about the "Tsar bomb" it is the most powerful destructive weapon ever built by a human, and guess what it is a Russian bomb.

The Tsar Bomba was a three-stage bomb with Trutnev-
Babaev,second and third stage design, with a yield
of 50 megatons.This is equivalent to about 1,570 times
the combined energy of the bombs that destroyed
Hiroshima and Nagasaki ,10 times the combined energy
of all the conventional explosives used in World War II ,
one-quarter of the estimated yield of the 1883 eruption of
Krakatoa , and 10% of the combined yield of all nuclear tests
to date. if there is anything the US wants to avoid, its the owner of this bomb.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by JUHABACH: 11:22am On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
pls go and read about the "Tsar bomb" it is the most powerful destructive weapon ever built by a human, and guess what it is a Russian bomb.

The Tsar Bomba was a three-stage bomb with Trutnev-
Babaev,second and third stage design, with a yield
of 50 megatons.This is equivalent to about 1,570 times
the combined energy of the bombs that destroyed
Hiroshima and Nagasaki ,10 times the combined energy
of all the conventional explosives used in World War II ,
one-quarter of the estimated yield of the 1883 eruption of
Krakatoa , and 10% of the combined yield of all nuclear tests
to date. if there is anything the US wants to avoid, its the owner of this bomb.

what part of "conventional warfare" did you not understand?

oh the tsar bomb right? you do realize the u.s. have enough nukes to end all life on the planet right. so does russia btw. Heck France with its nuke alone could render most of the planet unhabitable.
Russia could have a million tsar bombs and it wouldn't change the fact of mutually assured destruction.

if you are not ready to bring facts supporting russia 's conventional warfare capabilities (including their "multiple air craft carriers"wink , then I don't see anything to talk about here tbh.

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Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by Nobody: 12:44pm On Mar 27, 2018
Even Putin admits the United States is the worlds unique military superpower. Its incontrovertible...its obvious. The U.S has 19 aircraft carriers...the rest of the world combined has 6. The U.S Navy has 2,100 aircraft.....more than the Chinese airforce. The U.S Army air airm noq flies the F-35 and from the looks if things will retain the A-10 Tankbuster. Enter the Marines....MARINES....Its replacing its Harrier Jump jets with the F-35...the U.S Marine air arm is larger and more powerful than the combined Air Force of South Africa and Nigeria. That is POWER !!...360 military bases, head of the most pwoerful military alliance NATO, home to Lockheed Martin, Boeing.....these are not State weapons manufacturers mind you, they are private companies regulated by Congress....which means they can aquire the best minds from Silicon Valley, MIT, Harvard...u name it. There is no competition. Forget nukes. The day Russia attacks with the U.S with nukes its 140 million people will be reduced to radioactive carbon in 30 minutes. The USs Ohio with 350 warheads is the 3rd largest nuclear power in the world.....difference is its always at sea....This is not ISIS or Boko Haram stuff qe talking about. These are strategic weapons system fueled with a $650 billion annual defence budget.

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Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by mysticwarrior(m): 2:14pm On Mar 27, 2018
JUHABACH:


what part of "conventional warfare" did you not understand?

oh the tsar bomb right? you do realize the u.s. have enough nukes to end all life on the planet right. so does russia btw. Heck France with its nuke alone could render most of the planet unhabitable.
Russia could have a million tsar bombs and it wouldn't change the fact of mutually assured destruction.

if you are not ready to bring facts supporting russia 's conventional warfare capabilities (including their "multiple air craft carriers"wink , then I don't see anything to talk about here tbh.
"conventional warefare"? I have been suspecting you to be someone with a very shallow understanding and what you posted just confirmed my suspicion, chai you are talking about conventional warfare yet you are still mentioning the use of Nukes? you don't even know what conventional warfare is, pls go and read and find out the meaning of "conventional warfare".
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by JUHABACH: 2:22pm On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
"conventional warefare"? I have been suspecting you to be someone with a very shallow understanding and what you posted just confirmed my suspicion, chai you are talking about conventional warfare yet you are still mentioning the use of Nukes? you don't even know what conventional warfare is, pls go and read and find out the meaning of "conventional warfare".

lmao. nukes are weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). WMDs are NOT considered as conventional weapons of warfare by any standard (which utilize conventional weapons btw)
http://www.nucleardarkness.org/nuclear/nuclearandconventionalweapons/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_warfare

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_weapon

pls try and do some research before replying my posts.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by mysticwarrior(m): 2:37pm On Mar 27, 2018
JUHABACH:


lmao. nukes are weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). WMDs are NOT considered as conventional weapons of warfare by any standard (which utilize conventional weapons btw)
http://www.nucleardarkness.org/nuclear/nuclearandconventionalweapons/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_warfare

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_weapon

pls try and do some research before replying my posts.
its too late to make corrections, you have already failed Mr "conventional warfare".
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by JUHABACH: 2:41pm On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
its too late to make corrections, you have already failed Mr "conventional warfare".
>don't know what these "corrections" are
>was literally the first person to bring up nukes (Mr tsar bomb)
>can't refute facts
>goes ahead to award himself the winner

well, whatever makes you feel any better.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by mysticwarrior(m): 3:26pm On Mar 27, 2018
JUHABACH:

>don't know what these "corrections" are
>was literally the first person to bring up nukes (Mr tsar bomb)
>can't refute facts
>goes ahead to award himself the winner

well, whatever makes you feel any better.
I didn't mentioned "conventional warfare" when I talked about the Tsar bomb, but you wrongfully used nukes in making illustrations about "conventional warfare to ascertain the superiority of both Nations, oyes you were very wrong and guess what? it gives me pleasure to capitalize and criticisize your errors and blunders Mr "conventional warfare".
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by JUHABACH: 4:34pm On Mar 27, 2018
mysticwarrior:
I didn't mentioned "conventional warfare" when I talked about the Tsar bomb, but you wrongfully used nukes in making illustrations about "conventional warfare to ascertain the superiority of both Nations, oyes you were very wrong and guess what? it gives me pleasure to capitalize and criticisize your errors and blunders Mr "conventional warfare".

*scratches head*
>were we not talking about conventional weapons though
>you claimed russia has more than one aircraft carrier
>I proved you wrong
>then out of no where you brought up tsar bomb
>I pretty much said that any nation with nukes could Bleep up the planet and concluded that we were talking about conventional weapons/warfare so obviously nukes shouldn't be involved. literally asked in response whether or not you understand what conventional warfare means in response to your post about tsar bomb.

don't know what the confusion is tbh.

but it seems you have nothing relevant to add, so I ll take my leave.
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by pipnator00(m): 10:57am On Mar 19
I remember this story vividly. It even led to Obama (the then president when that incident happened) to call Putin to quell tension so it doesn't escalate further. Shamed Putin had nothing to say but to deny them with the claim that those weren't Russian service men rather some unknown private Russian mercenary who were there on there own and has not affiliation with the govt of Russia!
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by Jovi10: 11:16am On Mar 19
CSTR2:

what statistics?

The fact that you can ask me that is funny.

Check Out the number of war planes alone the US has compared to its closest rival Russia.

I don't even want to go into indepth analysis that will confuse you.


Warplanes in modern warfare are flying coffins. Y'all think we are still in the 1960s grin
Re: Hidden Facts : The Day U.S Forces Massacred 300 Russian Soldiers In Syria. by Jovi10: 11:18am On Mar 19
Those of you touting Russias nukes are seriously ignorant and misinformed. Russia has some 8000 nukes...however the vast majority are tactical nukes, not strategic nukes. The United States has some 7600 nukes, however since the prospect of a nuclear war in North America is zero, the vast majority of America's nuclear arsenal is strategic. This means while Russia has more nukes overall, America has more nukes that can hit Russia than vise versa. Almost half of America's deployed nukes are on ballistic missile submarines making them even more survivable. A fraction of Americas nukes is what it will take to wipe out Russia...and YES vise versa. But this notion of Russian nuclear superiority is stupid. Even France's 300 nuclear weapons are enough deterrence. 300 nukes will wipe out the Russian population. The fact is undeniable...Russia is no match for the United States conventionally. We all known it.


You say conventionally grin cheesy tell me any conventional warfare the USA has fought and won since after ww2 please? You people are really funny o wink grin

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