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removetheturban:
And, what are the three? Read the following verse to get the truth.

removetheturban:
I am a Jehovah's Witness.
And, yes those texts were not found in the original Greek scriptures. Check!

Jesse01:
I don't think Jesus believe in the Trinity if he did, he won't have made this statement,

the father is greater than the son

son was sent (didn't come to earth on is own will)

son do the will of the father and
and not his own will.

since the Trinity belive in equals power(none is greater than the other)
Jesu won't have make those above statement, but Jesus knew
that some one is greater than him.

now back to ur question do Jesus belive in Trinity, I don't known ( not a Christian)
but frm the Bible verse I belive Jesus neva belive in the Trinity.

removetheturban:
Thank you for your honest contribution.

Hairyrapunzel:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one.
So what is 'are one' ?

removetheturban:
And, what are the three? Read the following verse to get the truth.

Jesse01:
I don't think Jesus believe in the Trinity if he did, he won't have made this statement,

the father is greater than the son

son was sent (didn't come to earth on is own will)

son do the will of the father and
and not his own will.

since the Trinity belive in equals power(none is greater than the other)
Jesu won't have make those above statement, but Jesus knew
that some one is greater than him.

now back to ur question do Jesus belive in Trinity, I don't known ( not a Christian)
but frm the Bible verse I belive Jesus neva belive in the Trinity.

thorpido:
The Father,the Son and the Spirit and they are ONE...........just as you have spirit,blood and water(three) and you are one man.

thorpido:
You are NOT a Christian yet you confidently stand on a position that requires having the Author illuminate you with divine understanding?smh

You know what,you really don't know as your statement in bold says.

thorpido:
You are NOT a Christian yet you confidently stand on a position that requires having the Author illuminate you with divine understanding?smh

You know what,you really don't know as your statement in bold says.

Jesse01:
lol I don't know because I don't belive a middle east man die
for me a Nigerian ,it seems not right at all but let's pretend that I believe
let go through the Bible john I belive have ur answer.


john 14 :28 "ye have heard how I said unto you I go away,
and come again unto you
if ye loved me you could rejoiced because I said I go unto
the father for my father is greater than I am( KJV)


I think am right Jesus neva belive in the Trinity

removetheturban:
Your desire to denigrate the JW is not a surprise to anyone. The Roman Catholic Church is an organization that understands the concept of due process. If the JW has written anything defamatory against the RCC, they would have fought back to uphold their dignity. The RCC has a long chain of cases that they have won and a group of seasoned lawyers to represent them.

If they, do not deem it fit to issue a requital, It shows you that we did not cross the line. You are simply on a smear campaign.

Ubenedictus:
actually the Catholic Church doesn't sue anyone for writing a defamatory article. it is too much and a waste of time. the Church doesn't do that.

thorpido:
Okay,He said that.He also said,,[b]'I and My Father are One'.[/b]John 10:30
How do you explain the statement above?

Jesse01:
he did said that

now that a father and son relationship.


the middle east man (Jesus) Neva claim he's equal to the jew God(Jehovah) that will be blasphemy

removetheturban:
LOL I should ask you. "ARE one" is absolutely wrong.
I am glad that you embraced that fact

removetheturban:
I hear you

thorpido:
Nah,why didn't any prophet eg Moses say God (Father) and I are one?


None of them could say it actually.They know it's meaning.It is beyond just a relationship.

udatso:
Sometimes when you guys bring this quotation, I wonder if you read the Bible deeply or you only focus on parts that support what you have been taught.
The same verse chapter you quoted, kindly read the verse before if
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.

If the father is greater than All, how can trinity still exist maintaining coequality and coeternity......

Or is father = the father, the son and the Holy Spirit?

How do you equally explain John 17:20-22?

thorpido:
My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— John 17:20-22

The scripture you put up above says the SAME things as I said.Look at the bolded.Jesus said,the Father is in Me and I in Him...The same Spirit!

The problem with you guys is that you keep trying to reason God with your mind.He's BIGGER than your mind!You keep looking at figure '3'.God is one.However,He expresses Himself in ways that are mysterious to man.Yes,He's big like that.

Look at the scripture below;
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.John 14:10
Look at the bold.Jesus said the Father that dwells in me.Who is that Father?Here Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit.
To your question, God is the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.His expression at different points in time can be the Father,Son or Holy Spirit.
That's His Greatness!

udatso:
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Let's put it this way. Is the father greater than the son?
Is the father greater than the Holy Spirit?

thorpido:
The Father is greater than the Son because the Son came forth from the Father.

removetheturban:
If they, do not deem it fit to issue a requital, It shows you that we did not cross the line. You are simply on a smear campaign.

removetheturban:
Your desire to denigrate the JW is not a surprise to anyone. The Roman Catholic Church is an organization that understands the concept of due process. If the JW has written anything defamatory against the RCC, they would have fought back to uphold their dignity. The RCC has a long chain of cases that they have won and a group of seasoned lawyers to represent them.

If they, do not deem it fit to issue a requital, It shows you that we did not cross the line. You are simply on a smear campaign.