₦airaland Forum

Biafrannuke:
From what i have read many pro zoo fellas still scare us that Biafra is impossible to get. to them i say ask from people who have experience.
when we told people that Jonathan would loose in 2015 they said it was impossible for a sitting president to loose in the zoo but it happened. Nobody believed Trump would win a day to election, not even obama. Also who would have thought that North korea's kim who did nuclear test in October will be open to denuclearization by March. Assad can be overthrown before the end of April, zoo can also break up before 2020. never say never. nothing is impossible especially when international pressure is involved. Al bashir of sudan proved stubborn during Sudan conflict but accepted referendum when ICC and subsequent arrest warrant was used against him.

I have no doubt in my mind that a referendum on independence will be held in Igbo land within the next 5 years and I'm confident that at least 85% of our people will vote to be independent.

I have never been drunk in my life. But that day is the day I reserve to be drunk for the first time as I celebrate the freedom of my people and not being a Nigerian any more.

Funnicator:
a big for nothing country


poor education, poor military, poor healthcare, poor infrastructure.

a big for nothing country.

just big. nothing good inside.


there are smaller and more advanced countries.

with patriotic big for something citizens

Daewang:
My brother the way these people reason like animals always baffles me. I always wonder what their IQ level may be.

since 1956 300 billion pounds has been looted from oil
and there is close to over 6 trillion dollars (with a capital T) of gas beneath niger delta
you really think your iq is not retarded?

Nonaira3:
See question from a supposed grown man.

Although there's no common definition of "people" thus far according to the UN. According to research, the Criteria for the definition of "people having the right of self-determination" was proposed during 2010 Kosovo case decision of the International Court of Justice: 1. traditions and culture 2. ethnicity 3. historical ties and heritage 4. language 5. religion 6. sense of identity or kinship 7. the will to constitute a people 8. common suffering. All of which Igbos fall under

you have the right but not the balls

neezar:
Igbos can survive anywhere, just make the place to be hospitable for them

yet they make the place inhospitable with running their mouth

Hotfreeze:
Wrong.

Igbos should constitute itself into a powerful voting bloc capable of swinging results in a candidate's favour. Once that is done, Igbos have a more solid bargaining position to demand certain things.

You see, the nonsense happening to Igbos in Nigeria would be extended to Igbos when they form Biafra.

I think one major factor that would shape a lot of things is: on whose terms would Biafra be formed? If you look up to the miscreants in Nigeria to give you freedom, it would never come. Even if they grudgingly give you, it would come with ridiculously terrible conditions.

Freedom is not granted on a platter of gold, you have to sweat and fight for it. Civil disobedience is the way to go.

listen very carefully to this man

selemempe:
Let me add my voice to my brothers.
1. We need to start a new movement like IPOB and Massob. However this movement will not be called Biafra. It will be called Igbo nationalism movement. It will not include non Igbos. (Not yet anyway)

2. We need to get big Igbo names on board. Ezekwesili, Soludo etc. They need to be the face of the movement.

they will all be probed

3. The activities of the movement will include radio propaganda (without insulting anyone), tv propaganda, newspaper (propaganda), blogs and social media.

tagged hate speech and proscribed

4. We need to unite Massob, IPoB, Zionist movement and other Biafran agitators to this movement. The united faction leaders need to be given visible roles in the new movement.

labeled terrorists

5. We need to (through the efforts of the movement leaders) first of all pressure the Ohaneze to pass a motion supporting referandum for Igbos in Nigeria. Then we pressure state houses of assemblies to also pass a motion supporting referandum for Igbos. Then we pressure governors to adopt these motions.

govs only care about votes not biafra

Next would be to get members of the national assembly of Igbo origin to introduce a motion in both houses, calling for a referandum for Igbos. (I dont expect the motion to pass in the national assembly)

these are worse

6. We would then push for the Igbo nation to be recognised within Nigeria as an authonomous region. And For a premeire to be elected for the Igbo nation and recognised by govt, and for the premirer to be the head of an Igbo regional govt. And for the Igbo regional govt be able to manage resouces found in Igboland and pay a percantage to FG And also for matters such as power and energy; local policing; census and statistic collection to be delegated to the premiere and the Igbo regional govt.

7. We would go like this for a long time as an autonomous entity within one Nigeria (like hong kong, qubec or scotland etc), and then finally seek full independence from Nigeria as The Republic of Igboland. We may make certain concessions to Nigeria (for a start). Such as continuing to use the Naira; joining ECOWAS; Signing trade agreements and Maritime agreements with Nigeria; allowing free movements of people across the border and allowing for dual citizenships for Nigerians living in Igboland and vice verser.

8. We would then revisit the Niger Delta region and seek aliance if they are willing.

When we get independence, we should do away with the 5 state structure and remove all sorts of classification. We should take Igbo as one nation...one tribe....one people. No 'he is from Nsuka or from abakaliki' talk.
We would also be a democracy and republic like our fore fathers.
And if the Niger Delta joins us, we should integrate them well into the politics of the nation and then probably change our name to Biafra or any other one.
Dalu nu.

Cc bede2u nonaira3 horsepower101 igbodefendercom hiddenshadow shugavee

only violence will get you out of this deathgrip cos oil and gas will never be irrelevant anytime soon

selemempe:
then that is what we must do. I know some Nigerians no matter how small also have property in Igboland...they must also learn to forget it.

In 1984 Buhari forced Ghanans out of Nigeria...today Ghana is doing better than nigeria and wants nigerians out.. touchè

I also believe that wat will make or marr Biafra is not the ppl but the leadership. A responsibe leadership would be able to Negotiate with Nigeria to get a favourable deal for Igbos who have property in Nigeria.
Glo, Nigeria- owned banks, nigeria brewries and other businesses of nigerian origin would be used as leverage. Also the issue of National building will depend on leadership also. Ghana was battered by corruption after independence till jerry rawlings happened.
We have capable igbos. I recall how sullivan chime transformed enugu...how soludo transformed nigeria banking sector...we only need to put learned ppl in positions of leadership, and WICKEDLY demand accountabilty from them

define transform enugu

gidgiddy:
Bloodbath is what Nigerians are about. Biafran are after a the democratic instrument of a referendum as has been used in civilised places like Scotland in 2014

which do you think will win

saaron:
Biafra has the rest of Africa as her internal market.

that hates their guts
all the way to india and china and malaysia

gidgiddy:
Why it is so difficult is because they have done that before but you Nigerians still came for them. In 1967, they moved home, declared their own country. You Nigerians still came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring them back into Nigeria. Now you want them to do that again? Nobody is going to repeat such mistake twice.



Referendum date first before moving.

they tried to take ss and lagos(where they bleeped up)

selemempe:
First of all, many Igbos like me nowadays will rather not invest in property at all than invest outside Igboland. U may not knw this cos u still see so many igbo property in lagos.
Second on the issue of blood bath ....do u even realise that 1. There is an international community? 2. That Biafra will have a military? 3. Do u realise that many non Igbos are in igboland. FG civil servants, traders, pastors, bankers and professional? Would fg of Nigeria not move to calm violent protests in the north within days knowing wat is at stake? Or u think igbos are not violent? 4. That globacom, gtbank and so many Nigerian-owned business would be under threat also if nigerians move against igbos? I dont really think that all igbo business in the entire north put together is worth as much as gtbank assets in south east.

what asset
once the drums pf war beat money will be changed and naira will be useless.ibo don,t sell thei land so....nothing to lose
glo base stations will be shtdown and useless to you

Yes i agree that there would be violent protests and property siezing if Biafra comes. But it would be short lived because the two govts will work to bring it under a manageble level.

Wat seems to make igbos seem unserious about biafra is because igbo youths dont have arms and igbo politicians dont want biafra

Biafrannuke:
From what i have read many pro zoo fellas still scare us that Biafra is impossible to get.

peacefully

to them i say ask from people who have experience.
when we told people that Jonathan would loose in 2015 they said it was impossible for a sitting president to loose in the zoo but it happened.

and you voted(rigged) 98 -99%
and still lost

Nobody believed Trump would win a day to election, not even obama.

its hilary that did not believe
beleived her own hype
dreamer

Also who would have thought that North korea's kim who did nuclear test in October will be open to denuclearization by March.

he see pesin wen craze pass am
ordinary awo shut you down last time
also that was a well olayed strategy on his part

Assad can be overthrown before the end of April,

how
who will start ww3 for his cowardly dumb ppl

zoo can also break up before 2020.

hahahahahahahaha
since 1963 dem don de talkm am

never say never. nothing is impossible especially when international pressure is involved.

oil trumps pressure

Al bashir of sudan proved stubborn during Sudan conflict but accepted referendum when ICC and subsequent arrest warrant was used against him.

yet he still rules south sudan by proxy

gidgiddy:
I have no doubt in my mind that a referendum on independence will be held in Igbo land within the next 5 years and I'm confident that at least 85% of our people will vote to be independent.

then what will happen?

I have never been drunk in my life. But that day is the day I reserve to be drunk for the first time as I celebrate the freedom of my people and not being a Nigerian any more.

gidgiddy:
Note to the mods: This discussion is about independence and self determination which are legitimate and legal rights enshrined under international law espoused under article 1 of the UN charter and article 20(1) of the African charter, which Nigeria is a signatory to and allows any group of people the right to seek independence from the country they belong to. This has nothing to do with secession(before you people start looking for who to ban)

I would have prefared to write this in Igbo but I understand that there are Igbos out there who may not be proficient in Igbo, particularly those born and raised outside Igbo land. Never the less, I will say Igbo bu Igbo!, anam ekene. Onye na nke ya, onye na nke ya. Chukwu dube anyi, n'ofu n'ofu.

My great Igbo nation, and by this I mean the people indigenous to southern Nigeria who speak Igbo or a variant of it as their ancestral language, bound by a similar culture, bloodlines, tradition, custom, norms and Judeo-Christian beliefs. In 1897, a woman called Flora Shaw came up with name called "Nigeria". In 1914, Flora Shaws husband, Frederick Lugard incorporated us and our ancestral land into an international merger of ethnic groups into Nigeria. Suddenly, ethnic groups we barely knew and had no historical association with such Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis became our supposed "brothers". The hundred years that was to follow this amalgamation has been froth with tribalism, pogrom, ethnic and religious bias, civil war, ethnic supremacist battles, suspicion and many more ills. It is now clear even to a blind man that the 1914 union of Nigeria was a disasterous mistake. While we cannot change the past, we can definitely do something about the future.

IT IS TIME FOR US IGBOS TO ASPIRE TO OUR OWN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY!

I wish to add here that this aspiration can be with or without the ethnic groups that border Igbo land such as Ijaws, Efiks, Ogoja, Ogoni etc. So long as it is by mutual consent of all parties.

The great Igbo nation has a lot to gain by being an independent country.
1) we restructure our nation however we like
2) we free our selves politically from whatever the Northern oligarchy or Yorubas think
3) we sign new bilateral agreements with the rest of the world
4) we take control of our resources
5) We develop a truly people's oriented constitution
6) we free our selves from the terrorism of Boko Haram and Herdsmen which Nigeria has become synonymous with
7) we take back our borders and waters
we will no longer be bound by the false manual called the Nigerian constitution.
9) we reclaim our sovereignty that was stolen in 1914(Briefly reclaimed by the great Ojukwu in 1967)


Nigeria is failed state, it will take nobody nowhere. No matter who wins elections, now or in the future, the country is doomed. A country that has no commonality, no unifying ethos, no unity of purpose, inequality, divided by ethnic leanings, religious bias and separate value systems. It will never work, not now or ever.

So I say to: The Ika-Igbo nation!, The Ikwerre-Igbo nation! The Izzi/Ezza-Igbo nation! The Wawa-Igbo nation! The Ohuhu-Igbo nation! The Umueze-Okoha Igbo nation! The Aro-Igbo nation! The Eha-Igbo nation!The Ijekebe- Igbo nation to which I belong and all the sub-national Igbo communities out there..........

Aspire to independence! Reject the failure called Nigeria! Express your right of self determination! Seek a new beginning! You are too big to be begging for restructuring or anything inside Nigeria! You are too big for any political position in Nigeria.

Ogwucha ka oham n'onu.

NWERE-ONWE!(SELF-DETERMINATIO!)

Was this not the same absurdity that led Ojukwu to waste 2 million Igbo souls only on ego tripping ?

How many igbotic souls have you earn mark to sacrifice for this your lunatic tantrum ?

Either way he no concern me but do you expect Awo to wake up from his grave to come n feed you when you are at war with him.

triblehaul1:
Was this not the same absurdity that led Ojukwu to waste 2 million Igbo souls only on ego tripping ?

How many igbotic souls have you earn mark to sacrifice for this your lunatic tantrum ?

Either way he no concern me but do you expect Awo to wake up from his grave to come n feed you when you are at war with him.

What you should be asking your self is Why your Nigeria is fighting to be with Igbos? Ojukwu was fighting to go his way with his people

You Nigerians were fighting that you must be with Igbos. If you guys can't do without Igbos then you should say so. When you fight to be people who dont want to be with you, It is you that has problem.

mikolo80:
since 1956 300 billion pounds has been looted from oil
and there is close to over 6 trillion dollars (with a capital T) of gas beneath niger delta
you really think your iq is not retarded?

Perhaps your IQ really is retarded because I don't know the correlation between this rubbish you posted to me and what I posted.

mikolo80:
define transform enugu

I cant even understand why u quoted me or wat the hell u were talking about

mikolo80:
what asset
once the drums pf war beat money will be changed and naira will be useless.ibo don,t sell thei land so....nothing to lose
glo base stations will be shtdown and useless to you

-I concur 100%. Politics can only take you thus far.

Dtribeless:
My guy, you are comparing the Shithole/Zoo to Europeans. Again, there will be no gentleman agreement like the EU; this will all end in blood, African style. Please wake up!

You think Igbos are scared of bloodbath.?

Thank God that the stupid middle belt people now know their real enemies and won't be fighting the Biafrans

gidgiddy:
Not true. That is like saying that all Nigerians living outside Nigeria can lose their investments and go back to Nigeria. That is not possible because international law protects properties and investments anywhere in the world.

Britain is officially leaving the EU next year but the over one million British citizens living in Europe have not been asked to go anywhere and non of them will lose their investments

Seriouly? oh sorry I forgot, we are EUROPEANS.
You guys are NEVER tired of asking for TROUBLE, when the DOUBLE decides to MOVE inn with you people, you begins to scream GENOCIDE.
Wake up jor, this is Africa.
You want in you stay in, you want out, you better be prepared to stay the hell out.

Dtribeless:
If you believe that Nigerians would go ahead and register Igbos as foreigners and investors, you are daydreaming, and that's what you bunch are: daydreamers. Igbos will be deported enmasse and also violently (other tribes would expect the same, but as you know Igbos move around the most). They would be asked to pronounce kobo, or a telling Hausa word. You have not answered my question though. Again, which Igbo politician that has held office in the last nineteen years is not a thief?>

CHAI

Dtribeless:
Biafrans don't have to wait for that; they can just start moving to Biafra and save us all the pain. I don't know why this is so difficult. In the referendum, who will vote? All Nigerians? Or Igbos only? This issue is not difficult at all: Igbos, by their actions, don't want Biafra; if they do, they can always move, but no, they moving more into other tribe's community and shouting Biafra. Abegi!!

Wicked.

7lives:
Seriouly? oh sorry I forgot, we are EUROPEANS.
You guys are NEVER tired of asking for TROUBLE, when the DOUBLE decides to MOVE inn with you people, you begins to scream GENOCIDE.
Wake up jor, this is Africa.
You want in you stay in, you want out, you better be prepared to stay the hell out.

It doesn't matter if it's Africa or not, as long as Nigeria has signed up to the relevant international laws that protect lives, properties and investments then it must abide by them.

Dtribeless:
Again, who will vote in the referendum? In 1967 they moved? No, they did not; instead, they robbed the Central bank in Benin state and intended to finance the war with stolen funds. Again, you guys (SE without SS) contribute little to the national purse, so there's no issue of sending your taxes to the Federal government as such. So you guys interested in Biafra can just move back there and not come out.

Free THESE MINORS abeg, you are like a talking drum, THEY can NEVER understand you.

gidgiddy:
It doesn't matter if it's Africa or not, as long as Nigeria has signed up to the relevant international laws that protect lives, properties and investments then it must abide by them.

International law? if this is what you are banking on you are probably dreaming and NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
Who respect international law these days?, you have probably NOT heard of SEVERANCE of diplomatic relations?.
Who will help you to remain in a country were you pulled out from?, you shall all be EXPELLED.

7lives:
International law? if this is what you are banking on you are probably dreaming and NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
Who respect international law these days?, you have probably NOT heard of SEVERANCE of diplomatic relations?.
Who will help you to remain in a country were you pulled out from?, you shall all be EXPELLED.

Guy abeg free that boy, funny thing is that most of those advocating for Biafra in the IPOB way don't even know the exact boundaries of the new nation, see them shouting referendum as if it's something you can buy in the market for 20 naira. They forget that other nationalities surrounding Igboland had denounced anything to do with Biafra and the new nation would be surrounded by Nigeria who can dictate what goes in and comes out of Biafra.
They think Nigeria would still allow them in Lagos, Abuja, Kano, PH etc to continue living as citizens or foreigners, all Nigeria would do is severe all diplomatic ties as you rightly said and deport Igbos back while seizing Igbo properties all over the country.

Daewang:
Perhaps your IQ really is retarded because I don't know the correlation between this rubbish you posted to me and what I posted.

and yua talking about iq.uu funny

7lives:
International law? if this is what you are banking on you are probably dreaming and NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
Who respect international law these days?, you have probably NOT heard of SEVERANCE of diplomatic relations?.
Who will help you to remain in a country were you pulled out from?, you shall all be EXPELLED.

Civilised countries of the world respect the international laws they signed up and if Nigeria is not civilised then those agitating to go are right to do so. Diplomatic severance or not, no country can seize the property of anyone unjustly. If people are expelled, it is but a small price to pay for freedom.

7lives:
International law? if this is what you are banking on you are probably dreaming and NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
Who respect international law these days?, you have probably NOT heard of SEVERANCE of diplomatic relations?.
Who will help you to remain in a country were you pulled out from?, you shall all be EXPELLED.

Do you believe Republic of Igbo land or Biafra shall not response to such silly action in kind?

mikolo80:
and yua talking about iq.uu funny

Please don't mention me again.

Daewang:
Please don't mention me again.

coman hold me
Shebi e de say you wen you de run your mouth