₦airaland Forum

GoodGovernance:
MIsguided commentary.

Lagos is working because the State house of assembly is always on the same page with the executive.

It is a misguided thought to believe the more ''independent'' the senate is,the better for the country.Rubbish!Absolute hog wash!!


A party is voted into power to execute its manifesto and programmes.For successful execution,Majority of legislators and executives,of the same party, must be on the same page and support the excutives led by the president to remain in power.

Most antagonism should come from the opposition party,not from members of the same party

The country cannever move forwaRD with frequent antagonism from members of the same party,except in cases of corruption ,insecurity ,impeachable offences,criminality,constitutionality,etc.

I liked your post because you seem to understand governance.

Nairaland is full of obnoxious, unpatriotic individuals.

fasterwell:
1. Senator Shehu Sani was the one who made it public about the 12 or 13 milion naira which senators get every month which is not their salaries, allowances or constituency projects.

So, you don't see anything wrong with it?

If there is nothing to consider in all i said earlier, then there is no need saying more because you won't still consider them because of your hatred for Buhari.

REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A TIME GEJ BUDGETTED ABOUT 2 BILION FOR FEED AND LATER SENT A SUPPLIMENTARY FEEDING BUDGET TO NATIONAL ASSEMBLY FOR FEEDING.

If you are not a liar like all APC people, please provide the credible sources for these your stories.
Thanks.

GoodGovernance:
MIsguided commentary.

Lagos is working because the State house of assembly is always on the same page with the executive.

Is stealing and massive looting among the politicians, the new meaning of a state is working
O ga oh.

fasterwell:
1. Senator Shehu Sani was the one who made it public about the 12 or 13 milion naira which senators get every month which is not their salaries, allowances or constituency projects.

So, you don't see anything wrong with it?.

Did you go to school?
If you did, you would not be asking me the above question.
Did your Shehu Sani say that the running allowance is not budgeted in the same way that the bogus budgets for Buhari’s Aso Rock are budgeted and stolen?
If you don’t see anything wrong with Buhari stealing money with bogus budgets, why should you see anything wrong with the lawmakers doing the same thing

fasterwell:
Before you crucify Buhari, consider the above and the situations he met when he took over

Buhari knew the situation was bad hence he also promised to fix the oil price
Thankfully, the oil price has been going up and is now $70.
Despite his prior knowledge and improved oil revenues, Buhari has failed to achieve any of his goals.
Buhari is a failure. Failure is Buhari.
Get your PVC asap for 2019!

ALMUSTAQIM:
THE REVISION IS A FUTILE, WASTED EFFORT

PMB1523 WON'T SIGN IT & INEC WON'T FOLLOW IT

THE COURTS WILL NOT RECOGNISE IT

SHAME TO THE LEGISLOOTERS

If NASS over rides the bill. Its law my friend

seguno2:
If you are not a liar like all APC people, please provide the credible sources for these your stories.
Thanks.

Google

It's astonishing how ignorant and full of hate for Buhari some commenters are, that they can't see what this tussle over election sequencing for what it really is: the desire by both Buhari and the NASS to seize the power of incumbency for their own advantage, by utilizing a "coattail" effect. In plain English, if Buhari gets re-elected first, this gives support to APC gubernatorial candidates, as even voters understand the importance of their governor being in the same party as the president. Similarly, holding local assembly elections last ensures governors get compliant, toothless assemblies that never ask any probing questions and never raise a fuss at even the most glaring abuses of power.

If any of you care enough about more than just your personal fixation of Buhari to want better governance at all levels of power, what you should want is for local elections to be held first, then representative elections, then governorship elections, and finally the presidential elections. In a parliamentary system of power all of this would be unnecessary, but as long as we are stuck with the current system, we ought to want to minimize the coattail effect that allows higher levels of government to steer elections at levels below them.

It's naive to believe that the governors will back this new re-ordering. Majority of the governors are even scared to have their elections come first,they would rather have the presidential election come first so that they can benefit from the likely bandwagon effect that will follow.

Afamed:
They have power to make laws but not when it comes to electoral matter. The power to do that majorly lies with INEC. Don't always just into conclusion. Always educate yourself before commenting on every issue on Nairaland.

Ignore that guy. You should know that 80% of these online ranting pots are illiterates. They don't read, neither do they care to learn. Forget him

fasterwell:
Google

Joker

bonechamberlain:
whatever bill that is needed to limit buharis chances next election or fly him straight to daura is welcomed

place the presidential polls first or last, Buhari will win if he wants to because at the end of the day, it is those that control the INEC that have the power. In 2007, even after Yaradua confessed that the election was rigged, the supreme court still went ahead to declare him winner. Why? For stability of the country, it is better to maintain status quo. Even at that, do most of this senators think they will be nominated by their party? Nomination is not automatic.

aolawale025:
If NASS over rides the bill. Its law my friend

and I doubt if you know what is law.

Supreme Court has denied the NASS to make laws that relates to the ordering, fixing of election dates, rejection of voters, etc.

seguno2:
Buhari knew the situation was bad hence he also promised to fix the oil price
Thankfully, the oil price has been going up and is now $70.
Despite his prior knowledge and improved oil revenues, Buhari has failed to achieve any of his goals.
Buhari is a failure. Failure is Buhari.
Get your PVC asap for 2019!

The Defendant in fact argued or treated Plaintiffs' claims (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv) together in its brief under Question one. So what was said in respect of Claim (i) above will apply here. Plaintiffs' Claim (ii) however is in five parts (a)-(e). I will therefore answer them one after the other as follows:

(ii)(a) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to conduct of elections into the Office of Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillors of a Local Government Council except the power to make laws with respect to the registration of voters and the procedure regulating elections to a Local Government Council.

(b) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the division of a Local Government Area into wards for purposes of election into a Local Government Council.

(c) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the qualification or disqualification of a person as candidate for election as Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillor of a Local Government Council.

(d) The National Assembly has not power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the date of election into a Local Government Council.

Attorney General VS Abia state government and all states attorney general.


That is if you will read

mamdanju:
If the energy being wasted on reordering of election was expended on passing the budget, the nation will be better for it. We are about to end April and the budget submitted to the NA in November 2017 is yet to be passed.

I don't totally agree with you sir. Nigeria is not backward because budgets are not being passed but due to poor leadership. All the other budgets that have been passed year in year out, what impacts do they have on the country. It has always been garbage in garbage out.

If Nigeria will ever be great, we need to focus on our strategic development. I could comfortably say the whole world has left us behind in terms of development and good life due to the fact that we worship individuals rather than establishing and empowering institution of governance. If we continue to manage the country this way, i for see doom nearer than we thought. That is why you will notice that a lot of people are frantically moving their families out of the country. Of course I can't blame them. We are moving backwards with each regime and unfortunately every regime try to sit tight because there are no specific accountabilities. Even if there are accountabilities, it is to friends, relations and well wishers of the incumbents. This has been the same trend in the current and previous administrations.

I will like to commend the current legislature even though they have lots of short comings but they give some level of assurance that after all, we could have a part of the government that could tell the irresponsible executive this is the red line. Should we even be talking about any other thing in this country besides fellow human being been slaughtered day and night in an independent country. Where else do we have this kind of carnage in the world apart from Syria.

This government has failed Nigeria once again. In 2015, it seems to be our last hope.

Let me share a secret with you. I don't still have a PVC !!! But I want to assure you whatever obstacle they decide to place on getting one, I will get one and then I can participate in determining the fate of Nigeria and Nigerians for yet another 4 years.

Nigerians, if you love yourself, your family, your future generations go all out don't mind the obstacles, get your PVC and we will all have reasons to say yes I tried my best to help the helpless situation.

Teenaira:
I don't totally agree with you sir. Nigeria is not backward because budgets are not being passed but due to poor leadership. All the other budgets that have been passed year in year out, what impacts do they have on the country. It has always been garbage in garbage out.

If Nigeria will ever be great, we need to focus on our strategic development. I could comfortably say the whole world has left us behind in terms of development and good life due to the fact that we worship individuals rather than establishing and empowering institution of governance. If we continue to manage the country this way, i for see doom nearer than we thought. That is why you will notice that a lot of people are frantically moving their families out of the country. Of course I can't blame them. We are moving backwards with each regime and unfortunately every regime try to sit tight because there are no specific accountabilities. Even if there are accountabilities, it is to friends, relations and well wishers of the incumbents. This has been the same trend in the current and previous administrations.

I will like to commend the current legislature even though they have lots of short comings but they give some level of assurance that after all, we could have a part of the government that could tell the irresponsible executive this is the red line. Should we even be talking about any other thing in this country besides fellow human being been slaughtered day and night in an independent country. Where else do we have this kind of carnage in the world apart from Syria.

This government has failed Nigeria once again. In 2015, it seems to be our last hope.

Let me share a secret with you. I don't still have a PVC !!! But I want to assure you whatever obstacle they decide to place on getting one, I will get one and then I can participate in determining the fate of Nigeria and Nigerians for yet another 4 years.

Nigerians, if you love yourself, your family, your future generations go all out don't mind the obstacles, get your PVC and we will all have reasons to say yes I tried my best to help the helpless situation.

I don't think your problem is having a PVC but knowing the purpose of voting. With all what you have said up there, you don't know why you should vote. Make peace with your emotions first before you move to the polling unit next year.

Since you don't know how the budget affects you, I am sure you don't also know how your vote will change anything in 2019

mamdanju:
If the energy being wasted on reordering of election was expended on passing the budget, the nation will be better for it. We are about to end April and the budget submitted to the NA in November 2017 is yet to be passed.

Useless budget. The ones passed of what benefit have they been? That budget must not be passed without due diligence!

seguno2:
Please educate me on the reference for limiting the legislative matters that our lawmakers can work on.
Thanks.

“As far as the constitution is concerned, the power of INEC to organise, undertake and supervise the elections, which has been interpreted to include the power to fix the dates for the general elections or determine the sequence of the elections, hence the reason INEC is regarded as independent electoral Commission not senate electoral Commission.

mrphysics:
The Defendant in fact argued or treated Plaintiffs' claims (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv) together in its brief under Question one. So what was said in respect of Claim (i) above will apply here. Plaintiffs' Claim (ii) however is in five parts (a)-(e). I will therefore answer them one after the other as follows:

(ii)(a) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to conduct of elections into the Office of Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillors of a Local Government Council except the power to make laws with respect to the registration of voters and the procedure regulating elections to a Local Government Council.

(b) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the division of a Local Government Area into wards for purposes of election into a Local Government Council.

(c) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the qualification or disqualification of a person as candidate for election as Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillor of a Local Government Council.

(d) The National Assembly has not power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the date of election into a Local Government Council.

Attorney General VS Abia state government and all states attorney general.


That is if you will read

Don't waste your precious time on that guy. His mind is made to believe in lies.

Afamed:
“As far as the constitution is concerned, the power of INEC to organise, undertake and supervise the elections, which has been interpreted to include the power to fix the dates for the general elections or determine the sequence of the elections, hence the reason INEC is regarded as independent electoral Commission not senate electoral Commission.

Independent of the law establishing it, which can be amended by the establishing authority(ies)?

mrphysics:
The Defendant in fact argued or treated Plaintiffs' claims (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv) together in its brief under Question one. So what was said in respect of Claim (i) above will apply here. Plaintiffs' Claim (ii) however is in five parts (a)-(e). I will therefore answer them one after the other as follows:

(ii)(a) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to conduct of elections into the Office of Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillors of a Local Government Council except the power to make laws with respect to the registration of voters and the procedure regulating elections to a Local Government Council.

(b) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the division of a Local Government Area into wards for purposes of election into a Local Government Council.

(c) The National Assembly has no power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the qualification or disqualification of a person as candidate for election as Chairman, Vice-Chairman or Councillor of a Local Government Council.

(d) The National Assembly has not power except in relation to the Federal Capital Territory alone, to make any law with respect to the date of election into a Local Government Council.

Attorney General VS Abia state government and all states attorney general.


That is if you will read

Thanks for sharing this.
Is it based on the old Electoral Act, which has been subsequently amended

Afamed:
Don't waste your precious time on that guy. His mind is made to believe in lies.

Lol, some of them are in Federal Republic of Social Media. Majority of them don't know anything and they don't want to know

seguno2:
Thanks for sharing this.
Is it based on the old Electoral Act, which has been subsequently amended

Read to understand, don't just read to comment.

seguno2:
Thanks for sharing this.
Is it based on the old Electoral Act, which has been subsequently amended

This is supreme court Judgement. This judgement was given if I am not mistaken 2006/2007. So who amended it.

You read in the judgement that the [b]NASS has no right to make laws [/b]relating to the listed conditions

Even if this one gets to the president, he will still reject it, then the NASS will try to veto it, if they succeed, FG will take it to court for proper interpretation. It will be resolved after 2023 election

junbi:
I really don't understand this reordering stuff

How does reordering favour the senators and not the presidency, can anyone help

Infact which of the orders favours the masses

Thanks.

The excuses of the proponents of the bill which many Nigerians for selfish, bias or outright hatred for this national assembly didnt critically access is the reason for this noise.

The bill was introduced because in the last elections many states voted APC governors solely because Buhari had won the presidency and they couldn't afford been labeled opposition. Jigawa is a good example.

So in order to ensure the right persons win at governorship levels and possibly even an independent candidate may one day will the presidency they proposed the bill.

The only advantage to the masses is that the more these clowns clash the more revelations and secret we hear. It's now up to the masses to come together and send them all packing.

Afamed:
Read to understand, don't just read to comment.

Lol, the guy didn't even read to understand. He read to argue and he keeps using his hands to cut his cable.

Instead of NASS to focus on signing the 2018 budget that ll impact on lives of average Nigerian,let capital project, 2017Npower and all other government program kickstart, there re busy with 2019 election and some zombies re here praising them, there should also review their salaries, a single person is earning more than 13million naira monthly and there keep trying to divert our attention from the main issue by keeping us busy with useless issues that doesn't affect us in any way. yet some people kl only focus on the president, as a citizen of this country you re from a state, and yoy ve three federal legislators and governor who re to represent your state, why not tackle and hild them to account for not representing you well at the federal level, Buhari as a president is not a God, all this shameless ignoramus shouting buhari buhari, you guys should stop being a prisoner of tribal and religious sentiments, wise up and stop being fooled like idiots

callthefred:
The excuses of the proponents of the bill which many Nigerians for selfish, bias or outright hatred for this national assembly didnt critically access is the reason for this noise.

The bill was introduced because in the last elections many states voted APC governors solely because Buhari had won the presidency and they couldn't afford been labeled opposition. Jigawa is a good example.

So in order to ensure the right persons win at governorship levels and possibly even an independent candidate may one day will the presidency they proposed the bill.

The only advantage to the masses is that the more these clowns clash the more revelations and secret we hear. It's now up to the masses to come together and send them all packing.

Did you read the bill? Was this the secret behind the bill? And how do you justify your claims? So Abia, rivers, Akwa Ibom, etc has no gubernatorial candidate in APC?

mrphysics:
This is supreme court Judgement. This judgement was given if I am not mistaken 2006/2007. So who amended it.

You read in the judgement that the [b]NASS has no right to make laws [/b]relating to the listed conditions

Even if this one gets to the president, he will still reject it, then the NASS will try to veto it, if they succeed, FG will take it to court for proper interpretation. It will be resolved after 2023 election

Not necessarily so, there could be accelerated hearing. Mind you Inec shot itself in the leg earlier on this bill and to retract. INEC like EFCC is a creation of the law. The law made and amended by the national assembly but in all honesty the bill is needed and would help our democracy if implemented.

Fuckyoumod:
We must all support and commend this current Senate... They have refused to be Buhari's ass-lickers.

for this reason Saraki's led Senate has earned my respect.

Buhari must be fought in all direction.

They are lawmakers, they can make and amend any law in this country as long as the (two third majority is met) even the court knows this!

Earned your respect for grandstanding every now and then? That's not a good performance or good legislation. If I may ask you, what is their achievement so far? Opposing Buhari. President going in one direction, legislators going in opposite direction. That's not good governance or good legislation but grounding the Nation's progress.
Don't be confused.
Buhari will go one day, whether they cooperate with him or or not. Another president will come in with another set of legislators and the cycle of grandstanding will continue.

mrphysics:
I don't think your problem is having a PVC but knowing the purpose of voting. With all what you have said up there, you don't know why you should vote. Make peace with your emotions first before you move to the polling unit next year.

Since you don't know how the budget affects you, I am sure you don't also know how your vote will change anything in 2019

You can accuse me about any other thing but not the budget. For your information sir, I am well grounded in budgetary matters but I know the so called budget is yet another joke. If you don't believe me please try to just review a few of the budget heads, if you are comfortable with the content then I rest my case.

mrphysics:
Lol, the guy didn't even read to understand. He read to argue and he keeps using his hands to cut his cable.

Many of them are here on Nairaland. few days ago, one of them said the F.G should be funding Budget with foreign reserve. Since that day, I occasionally engage them in a debate.