rvp2017:
Bla bla bla -- I am not wasting time - but just helping you realize you're NOTHING in Africa leave alone the world. Nigeria is only a giant in fake GDP. That is all.

Oh, yes.... we're nothing, I'm not disputing that. Are u happy now??

Obi1kenobi:


Then the Google search yielded wrong results. It's that simple. Check the websites of the local operators like Dana, Arik, Medview, Air Peace, Aerocontractors etc.

Lol, the guy can google for Africa.

rvp2017:
Only 44 aircrafts in the entire Nairaland as of 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - nothing like dreamliner of course - in Nigeria - and their stats office will claim - airline contribute 10B dollars to their GDP

That's what happen when u spend more time on nairaland than ur classroom.

So this thread is still breathing!

shervydman:

That's what happen when u spend more time on nairaland than ur classroom.

lol

The whole of Nigeria has few air crafts than one airline in Kenya - and all of them are small range one. When will you afford to buy a dream-liner.And you cannot buy with Naira - so quiting thinking purchasing power parity will help you (stupid argument if your think Naija is more developed than kenya).

One dreamliner will cost you 200M dollars plus. That is probably the total cost of all rickety 44 aircrafts in Nigeria.

shervydman:

That's what happen when u spend more time on nairaland than ur classroom.

owbabs:

lol

Anytime this thread pops up in d politics section, when I have a peep n meet him here, I use him for comic relief.

Here's what his ranting about.

All the carriers put together have 44 aircraft with valid insurance cover.
He said, “Air Peace has 13; Arik 10; Overland seven; Dana, five; Azman, four; Med-View, four and First Nation one. That’s a total of 44 and I said to myself, 44 aircraft for all the operators in Nigeria, that is less than one airline. Can they become one airline with 44 airplanes without losing their identity? My answer is yes.”

His ugali filled brain did not make him to know that they're talking about carriers with valid insurance cover.

rvp2017:
The whole of Nigeria has few air crafts than one airline in Kenya - and all of them are small range one. When will you afford to buy a dream-liner.And you cannot buy with Naira - so quiting thinking purchasing power parity will help you (stupid argument if your think Naija is more developed than kenya).

One dreamliner will cost you 200M dollars plus. That is probably the total cost of all rickety 44 aircrafts in Nigeria.

Pick up a book, my guy.....pick up a book.

Catch ya later, bye.

Why would you want to count aircrafts without valid insurance? for what purpose? or to INFLATE YOUR GDP

Kenya airways has 9-10 dreamliners...at today prices you're talking 2B DOLLARS worth of dreamliners alone.
[img]https://worldairlinenews.files./2014/04/kenya-airways-787-8-5y-kza-arrives-in-nairobi-on-4-5-14-kenyalr.jpg[/img]

shervydman:

Anytime this thread pops up in d politics section, when I have a peep n meet him here, I use him for comic relief.

Here's what his ranting about.

His ugali filled brain did not make him to know that they're talking about carriers with valid insurance cover.

One last lesson for the night for Naija fellows - KAA (Gov parastalal) who ran all our airports hires the best global talent - here is the nowergian running things now.

KQ Airways MD (Sebastian Mikosz -Polish) and Chairman (AmeriKenyan) are "onyibo" - Michael Joseph is now a Kenyan citizen and the guy behind M-PESA/SAFARICOM now KQ charmain


And today - they sacked all Nigeria staff -
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/KQ-sacks-Nigeria-staff--appoints-sales-agent/996-4396840-1vg664z/index.html
JamboJet MD -


That is how you avoid 150 airlines collapsing and the largest Naija ariline Airik is now insolvent and is under Naija management.

Here is Prof Terry Ryan (Chairman of Kenya National Bureau of statistics) - who head our statistics and monitary policy - making sure - for decades now- we don't cook our GDP like we over-cook our ugali or fufu


No cooking GDP - naija style


Hear him explaining how improbable Naija GDP -500B of cowdung maybe

Prof. Ryan is a Kenyan born economist who studied in Trinity College, Dublin and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He lectured in the University of Nairobi until 1983 when he was appointed Director of Planning in the Ministry of Planning and National Development of the Kenya Government. In 1988 he became the first Economic Secretary in the Ministry of Finance of the Kenya Government.

Compare Prof Terry Ryan(St Trinity College & MIT Allumni - with lots of years in academia) with the conman Yemi Kale - Nigeria GDP main cook - Yemi Kale - Alumni of Adis Ababa university . GDP of 500B - that cannot raise even 10B of taxes? With total budget including states at mere 36BUSD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemi_Kale

jln115:

Honestly depends on what you compare, Mahindra(in partnership with Boeing) are bidding to build 110 FA18s for the Indian Air force...... So they literally build fighter jets.

Technology wise I don't think they lack behind anyone..... That said they don't build luxurious, technologically advanced vehicles(even though they probably can) they primarily focus on tough no nonsense off road vehicles....

But the FA 18 is better suited for the navy why do the Indians prefer it for airforce as you say. It doesnt even have a good range. The Indians should opt it for their Vikrant-class aircraft carriers. They are great for sorties.

mtis:

lol ..msee ..Ati wakanda salute

Boss kwanii inaitwaje tena

mtis:

We can solve this by using AI...or driveless cars

Thats true, though a driverless car killed a guy the other day. But we do need driverless matatus

Kenya lead Africa in admission to IVY league schools
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/campus/kenyans-bag-top-admissions-ivy-league-universities-u-s/
ale Director for Africa “Kenyans continue to hold the largest share of admissions to Yale from Africa, which shows the premium the country puts on quality education.” Data from Yale University provided information on the admission rates of African students with Kenyans taking the biggest slice of the pie with 24 admissions. Nigerian followed closely in admissions with 23 students, Zimbabwe secured the third spot with 18 admissions and South Africa were in last with 16 admissions.

kikuyu1:


That's the real reason I'm here and hoping this thread will never die! In 2 decades, tops we should be where they are now and within my lifetime 6% annual growth will see us at Malaysia's current position.

Not to start beef with you but sometimes you sound like you are afraid life might end sooner for you.

Ttipsy:
I really wished that some Nigerian politicians are invited to this thread flooded with Kenya's infrastructure, from airports to railways to tourism,to view with their eyes so they could sit up..

nice 1 from Kenya. forward ever with your development.. Africa ll rise again !

I dont even believe those Nigerian politicians can manouvre the internet considering their age.

The highlighted part, is it because Kenya is splitting from Africa so we are now Africa II

rvp2017:

Cooler than the other side of my pillow

rvp2017:
Why would you want to count aircrafts without valid insurance? for what purpose?

A plane is a plane in Naija

rvp2017:
Kenya lead Africa in admission to IVY league schools
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/campus/kenyans-bag-top-admissions-ivy-league-universities-u-s/
ale Director for Africa “Kenyans continue to hold the largest share of admissions to Yale from Africa, which shows the premium the country puts on quality education.” Data from Yale University provided information on the admission rates of African students with Kenyans taking the biggest slice of the pie with 24 admissions. Nigerian followed closely in admissions with 23 students, Zimbabwe secured the third spot with 18 admissions and South Africa were in last with 16 admissions.

Never knew Yale was the only "Ivy League" school is the US. There are 48 Nigerians currently in Harvard and 26 Kenyans:
http://www.hio.harvard.edu/statistics
There are 57 Nigerians in Oxford and 25 Kenyans:
https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/student-numbers?wssl=1#
There are 53 Nigerians in Cambridge University and 17 Kenyans:
https://www.internationalstudents.cam.ac.uk/applying/global-community/international-student-data

Hell, even in your Yale, for the current session, there are 26 Nigerians and 18 Kenyans:
https://oiss.yale.edu/about/statistics-reports-2017-2018

What's your point?

To be honest, we're failing in education, but you aren't that much better off despite your illusions of the bestest infrastructure ever.

rvp2017:
Kenya lead Africa in admission to IVY league schools
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/campus/kenyans-bag-top-admissions-ivy-league-universities-u-s/
ale Director for Africa “Kenyans continue to hold the largest share of admissions to Yale from Africa, which shows the premium the country puts on quality education.” Data from Yale University provided information on the admission rates of African students with Kenyans taking the biggest slice of the pie with 24 admissions. Nigerian followed closely in admissions with 23 students, Zimbabwe secured the third spot with 18 admissions and South Africa were in last with 16 admissions.

Show us the data of the whole Ivy league school and not just Yale...

Last time I checked, three Nigerian students out of five Africans were offered admission to all Ivy league school.

Obi1kenobi:


Never knew Yale was the only "Ivy League" school is the US. There are 48 Nigerians currently in Harvard and 26 Kenyans:
http://www.hio.harvard.edu/statistics
There are 57 Nigerians in Oxford and 25 Kenyans:
https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/student-numbers?wssl=1#
There are 53 Nigerians in Cambridge University and 17 Kenyans:
https://www.internationalstudents.cam.ac.uk/applying/global-community/international-student-data

Hell, even in your Yale, for the current session, there are 26 Nigerians and 18 Kenyans:
https://oiss.yale.edu/about/statistics-reports-2017-2018

What's your point?

To be honest, we're failing in education, but you aren't that much better off despite your illusions of the bestest infrastructure ever.

The guy really has a problem

Eko for show

I really don't have time to go through all IVY league schools so will wait for some aggregated stats somewhere but suffice to say - it's Nigeria that need to fix it's education - not kenya - which the last decade has really fixed it's own.

The number of Nigerian students in America has been on a general upward trend since the 1990s as a result of recurring crises in Nigerian higher education. According to statistics from the Institute of International Education, or IIE, in 2008 Nigeria replaced Kenya as the only African country in the top 20 places of origin and it remains in that position.

“In the 2012-13 academic year, 7,316 students from Nigeria were studying in the United States, up 4% from the previous year,” noted an IIE fact sheet flowing from its latest Open Doors survey on student mobility in and out of America.

Obi1kenobi:


Never knew Yale was the only "Ivy League" school is the US. There are 48 Nigerians currently in Harvard and 26 Kenyans:
http://www.hio.harvard.edu/statistics
There are 57 Nigerians in Oxford and 25 Kenyans:
https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/student-numbers?wssl=1#
There are 53 Nigerians in Cambridge University and 17 Kenyans:
https://www.internationalstudents.cam.ac.uk/applying/global-community/international-student-data

Hell, even in your Yale, for the current session, there are 26 Nigerians and 18 Kenyans:
https://oiss.yale.edu/about/statistics-reports-2017-2018

What's your point?

To be honest, we're failing in education, but you aren't that much better off despite your illusions of the bestest infrastructure ever.

Classic definition of a slum city

Danielnino00:
Eko for show

IVY League in Kenya
Suffice to say two kenyan initiative are sending more poor kids to IVY league every yr - and paying for their school fees or arranging scholarship - while Nigeria kids are probably on their own - despite all the billion of dollars from oil.

Equity Bank foundation
http://equitygroupfoundation.com/equity-group-airlift-to-global-universities-reaches-329-scholars-at-a-scholarship-value-of-kshs-8-225-billion/

Now spends 100M usd every year paying for kids in IVY league - with 400 plus currently admitted or studying in top universities.

Kensap
http://kensap.org/
KenSAP has placed students at:
Harvard (18)
Yale (11)
Princeton (10)
Brown (
Amherst (7)
Cornell (7)
Middlebury (7)
Penn (7)
Williams (6)
Hamilton (5)
Lehigh (5)
Wesleyan (5)
Colby (4)
Dartmouth (4)
Stanford (4)
Tufts (4)
Bowdoin (3)
Brandeis (3)
Columbia (3)
Duke (3)
MIT (3)
Smith (3)
U of Toronto (3)
Barnard (2)
Bates (2)
Bryn Mawr (2)
Kenyon (2)
Mount Holyoke (2)
Northwestern (2)
Swarthmore (2)
St. Lawrence (2)
Carleton (1)
Connecticut College (1)
Davidson (1)
Gettysburg (1)
McGill (1)
Michigan State (1)
Oberlin (1)
Pomona (1)
Vassar (1)
Wellesley (1)
Wooster (1)

kikuyu1:


Thank you for this extremely significant factoid! How many countries at our level even attempted such a social undertaking? Tbh if Naijjans weren't such haters they'd bow down with R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

We also have a welfare program for 1.5 million Nigerians, too small though, started by this current regime.
[url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-21/nigeria-rolls-out-2-billion-brazil-like-social-welfare-plan
[/url]

http://punchng.com/nigeria-deploys-social-welfare-scheme-help-poor/

kikuyu1:


HTF does that happen!? Naijjans?

Nigeria has plenty private domestic airlines. Dana Air, Medview, Air peace... the list goes on.. those are the three big ones

rvp2017:
Compare Prof Terry Ryan(St Trinity College & MIT Allumni - with lots of years in academia) with the conman Yemi Kale - Nigeria GDP main cook - Yemi Kale - Alumni of Adis Ababa university . GDP of 500B - that cannot raise even 10B of taxes? With total budget including states at mere 36BUSD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemi_Kale

People barely pay taxes and if they do they're low in Nigeria.Many people and companies avoid paying taxes through their cunning ways. Gosh, some of the richest Nigerians don't pay tax. Nigeria is a petrol state, so it can afford to not collect tax for a while. But after the oil price fell, the government fell the pinch and now they're working on diversifying revenue and increasing the tax net. Nigeria has one of the lowest,if not the lowest, tax to gdp ratio in the world.

Danielnino00:
Eko for show

Guy why u dey post pictures like that. E look good for ur eye? lol

Or maybe Yemi Kale cooked the GDP and it doesn't make sense anymore. I mean naturally in every country including Kenya - the bulk of taxes - will come from income tax - that is salaries - so I don't know how Nigeria formal employees manage to avoid paying taxes. If you remove the oil revenue from the taxes - basically GDP (Yemi Kale concoction) to tax ratio is nothing.

My question 1) How do nigeria employees avoiding paying taxes 2) How do Nigeria companies some listed in Nigeria stock exchange including those 20 big banks avoiding paying taxes?

As for kenya - we are not doing so well - we are just at I think 20% - GDP to tax ratio - while likes of South Africa are 25-30% with Scandinavian countries doing 50%.

But still projection for 2018/2019 is that we will collect 17B USD!

nwoke37:


People barely pay taxes and if they do they're low in Nigeria.Many people and companies avoid paying taxes through their cunning ways. Gosh, some of the richest Nigerians don't pay tax. Nigeria is a petrol state, so it can afford to not collect tax for a while. But after the oil price fell, the government fell the pinch and now they're working on diversifying revenue and increasing the tax net. Nigeria has one of the lowest,if not the lowest, tax to gdp ratio in the world.