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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 1:56pm On Apr 28, 2018
nwoke37:


Nigeria didn't ask for help from the IMF when the recession was upon us. Instead, we created the right policies and started investing to stimulate the economy. Today, Nigeria has successfully exited recession without the help of the IMF.
I wonder why someone would be proud of IMF lending to them, which is even a bigger trap. The logic behind this kind of reasoning is simply beyond me.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 1:57pm On Apr 28, 2018
jason14:
see guy believe whatever makes u feel better it doesn't change anything, we Nigerians know who we are and where we stand in Africa , we are not looking for relevance .
Africa will progress when Nigeria progresses. just like d way d world wasn't progressing until america started progressing , and China to Asia

its destiny my friend, some countries are destined for greatness , even if it takes Nigeria 1000yrs to progress it will surely come and wen it comes it wud be massive and thats wen people will start respecting Africa . but for now forget it
if Kenya like it shud turn to england, it won't still change anything in Africa , it wud just be a fine country nothing else , no impact , no influence nothing

just the truth



Jason has spoken

I hope I live to see Nigeria's greatness on the world stage. It's taking a long time though.. What Nigeria needs is a leader like Kagame of Rwanda or Lee Kuan Yew who have a vision for their country.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by abinchrist(m): 2:08pm On Apr 28, 2018
freshest4live:

I wonder why someone would be proud of IMF lending to them, which is even a bigger trap. The logic behind this kind of reasoning is simply beyond me.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 2:15pm On Apr 28, 2018
abinchrist:


In this period of economic recession, please do not wait for the govt to do something. Do something yourself. Start your own Biz. I have decided to help Nigerians by writing an eBook on Mini importation. This is because I know anyone can start with as little as 10k, and make 8x Return on Investment weekly. If u follow my blueprint u can start earning above N250,000 guaranteed.

I am giving the eBook for only N2,500 not 15k so nobody will have an excuse.

Inside the book u will learn the ff;
1) Where to source for products in China at ridiculous cheap price
2) How to ship to Nigeria without using the conventional method such that u don't have to pay for custom duties and other levies
3)What products sell faster. I actually listed 30 of such hot products in d book
4)Where to sell in Nigeria
5)How to partner with Konga, Jumia and Dealdey for free and sell on their websites
6) how to deliver your products nationwide without leaving your state
And lots more.


To get it call or WhatsApp 07030637406


Let's proof to Mr President that we are not
My man, what century are you from> there is no more economic recession.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 2:46pm On Apr 28, 2018
Kai Kai!!

where did this Rvp guy drop from ? he has created like 3 monikers already just to troll Nigeria.. And he is doing it like a dunce.. going round in circles and shifting goal post ..

grin ..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 2:47pm On Apr 28, 2018
abinchrist:


In this period of economic recession, please do not wait for the govt to do something. Do something yourself. Start your own Biz. I have decided to help Nigerians by writing an eBook on Mini importation. This is because I know anyone can start with as little as 10k, and make 8x Return on Investment weekly. If u follow my blueprint u can start earning above N250,000 guaranteed.

I am giving the eBook for only N2,500 not 15k so nobody will have an excuse.

Inside the book u will learn the ff;
1) Where to source for products in China at ridiculous cheap price
2) How to ship to Nigeria without using the conventional method such that u don't have to pay for custom duties and other levies
3)What products sell faster. I actually listed 30 of such hot products in d book
4)Where to sell in Nigeria
5)How to partner with Konga, Jumia and Dealdey for free and sell on their websites
6) how to deliver your products nationwide without leaving your state
And lots more.


To get it call or WhatsApp 07030637406


Let's proof to Mr President that we are not



smart marketing strategy for your eBook grin .. I think the Kenyans will find it more useful... so they can grow their 70b economy ... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:05pm On Apr 28, 2018
Just dont add up

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:13pm On Apr 28, 2018
Just making a point

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:20pm On Apr 28, 2018
I will continue to show you why our 85-88B dollar economy is not cooked - GDP is not nuclear science - it basic addition of production activities multiplied by market prices and all that summed up. The bare minimum ledger.

Okay -- 20B dollars worth of Kenya agriculture

No 3 ; KENYA HORTICULTURE SECTOR - worth 1-1.5B dollars. Verifiable export data.

This consist mainly our flowers, fruits and vegetables - and indeed Kenya is one the horticulture power house of the world. We export 150m metric tonnes of cut flowers. About 1/4 of all flowers sold in Europe are from Kenya. The fruits & vegetable you buy in Europe are mostly likely from Kenya. Avacados especially are growing so fast - South American countries that do this should be worried.

Kenya is the flower garden of Europe.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/africa/kenya-flower-industry/index.html


And this sectors support some 4.5M people


Kenya export tonnes of vegetable - french beans & avacados - are some of most common vegetable exported - meeting European standards without any problem


Next time you buy Avacados in Europe - knows it's grown in Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:22pm On Apr 28, 2018
Trying hard to understand .. cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:36pm On Apr 28, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:42pm On Apr 28, 2018
No 4 - Coffee - This used to be kenya biggest export in value and volume - but it's given way to real estate & horticulture - after mismanagement.

Value - 500M USD.

Kenya coffee are some of best quality coffee you can get out there. It bought and used to blend poor quality coffee.

Some of big coffee brands out of Kenya include Dormans and Java House (Kenya's starbuck)


Java house - The Africa Starbuck - now all over East Africa selling premier Kenyan coffee.


Those are basically some of biggest export oriented agriculture - there are small export in other item give and take another 0.5B worth.

So roughly that about 8-9 BILLION dollars worth of export of agriculture.

The next 10$ Billion is domestic consumption - Maize,Sugar, Rice, Wheat, Potatos(Irish), Beans, Fishing and Livestock Production (Beef) --- throw in some Chicken+eggs & Pork smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:54pm On Apr 28, 2018
Agricluture for domestic consumption.

1) Maize - Value 1.2-1.5B dollars - about 40M bags at about 30 dollars per bag.

This is Kenya staple food. Kenyan produces about 35-45 million bags depending on drought. Nigeria claim to produce lots of maize..but it's real production is about twice kenya - despite having twice the land and 4 times more arable.

Nigeria produces I think 6.5M metric tonnes...Kenya produces 3.5M metric tonnes of Maize.

Kenya Maize farms - Kenyans applied the most fertilizers in Africa outside South Africa.

Because Maize is strategic crop (staple food) - Kenya has strategic Maize reserve - with Maize stored in Large Silos in most towns

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 4:08pm On Apr 28, 2018
mtis:
Just dont add up
me self ooo it doesn't add up . Kenya :more advanced than Nigeria(like they claim) grin
GDP:70bn grin
I don't understand
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:12pm On Apr 28, 2018

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:12pm On Apr 28, 2018
Sugar Cane - Kenya produce 500-600M metric tonnes - Nigeria is happy with 100M metric tonnes - that is worth 0.5-1B dollars.

Potatos (Irish Potato).This is second most important food crop in Kenya after Maize. Annual production of more than 1-2M tonnes. This make the sector worth 0.5-1B dollars.

Rice - 360K metric tonnes - worth 200M dollars

Wheat - about the same as rice - worth 300M dollars

Beans - 500,000-1M metric tonnes - worth about 500M dollars

Cattle Production - Kenya has one of Africa largest herd of cows, sheeps and goats - annual production in beef & related 0.5-1B dollars.

Banana & other small crops

Fishing - Fresh Water & Marine is worth more than 0.5b dollars

Forestry - About 3.5% of our GDP - that 3B dollars.

Now you can do the addition - and see if you don't have 20b dollars worth of production in agriculture annually.

Let Nigeria now shows us the magic of their 150-200B dollar economy in AGRICULTURE.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 4:19pm On Apr 28, 2018
they said their economy is diversified and strong grin yet GDP is 70bngrin

somebody plsss tell me why

they said they have more skyscrapers than new York grin they said their electricity has been constant since the stone agegrin yet GDP is 70bn

I'm confused oo

they said theirs no single crime in Kenya its as safe as heavengrin , yet their GDP is 70bn

I need explanations
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:20pm On Apr 28, 2018
Multinationals yielding to allure of M-Pesa

Tech giant Google’s decision to allow customers to pay for applications using M-Pesa has buttressed the idea that for multinationals based in Kenya, Safaricom’s mobile money service is the par excellence agent of localisation.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:28pm On Apr 28, 2018
jason14:
they said their economy is diversified and strong grin yet GDP is 70bngrin

somebody plsss tell me why

they said they have more skyscrapers than new York grin they said their electricity has been constant since the stone agegrin yet GDP is 70bn

I'm confused oo

they said theirs no single crime in Kenya its as safe as heavengrin , yet their GDP is 70bn

I need explanations



You have not be listening to what we have been telling you .can’t eat or dress GDP…I know you folks are holding on Giants GDP but look around , your country is in a mess. Nigeria out there is mostly identified with what’s wrong with Africa..(Scams, cults, kidnapping, corruption, Religious wars, poverty need I continue…)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 4:28pm On Apr 28, 2018
they said their food is the most sought after in d world yet GDP is 70bn

why bikonu ? why?

they said there's no poverty in Kenya and every single person has a job grin yet GDP is 70bn

they said Lagos is a mega slum , yet it has a GDP bigger than d whole east Africa

bhet y?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:33pm On Apr 28, 2018
jason14:
they said their food is the most sought after in d world yet GDP is 70bn

why bikonu ? why?

they said there's no poverty in Kenya and every single person has a job grin yet GDP is 70bn

they said Lagos is a mega slum , yet it has a GDP bigger than d whole east Africa

bhet y?

Dude ya GDP is cooked an not helping any Nigerian..You might shout all you want but I bet very soon when logic prevails you will jump ship (but please don’t go via Libya route. Too dangerous for naijas grin)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 4:35pm On Apr 28, 2018
angry angry...none of you kenyans should dare try una nonesense with me.... angry angry

i dont mess around like other nigerians.... angry

i dont give a fvck about kenya.... angry angry angry angry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 4:40pm On Apr 28, 2018
mtis:


You have not be listening to what we have been telling you .can’t eat or dress GDP…I know you folks are holding on Giants GDP but look around , your country is in a mess. Nigeria out there is mostly identified with what’s wrong with Africa..(Scams, cults, kidnapping, corruption, Religious wars, poverty need I continue…)
and Kenya is the saint ? Kenya is whats right with Africa ? u have no right to say this nonsense u just said . so all the problems in Africa is becos of Nigeria right ? Africa has been a mess for God knows how long and its all been Nigeria's fault ? all the wars , all the poor nations , all the absurd cultures and tradition , all the famine , all the disease , its all Nigeria's doing? and kenya is identified as what's right ? is that really what u are saying ? Nigerians are d only ones that do.wrong in Africa ? no other nation commits crimes ? no other nation crosses the Mediterranean sea just to get to.Europe? every bad thing in Africa is Nigeria right ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 4:43pm On Apr 28, 2018
mtis:


Dude ya GDP is cooked an not helping any Nigerian..You might shout all you want but I bet very soon when logic prevails you will jump ship (but please don’t go via Libya route. Too dangerous for naijas grin)
alright
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:44pm On Apr 28, 2018
jason14:
and Kenya is the saint ? Kenya is whats right with Africa ? u have no right to say this nonsense u just said . so all the problems in Africa is becos of Nigeria right ? Africa has been a mess for God knows how long and its all been Nigeria's fault ? all the wars , all the poor nations , all the absurd cultures and tradition , all the famine , all the disease , its all Nigeria's doing? and kenya is identified as what's right ? is that really what u are saying ? Nigerians are d only ones that do.wrong in Africa ? no other nation commits crimes ? no other nation crosses the Mediterranean sea just to get to.Europe? every bad thing in Africa is Nigeria right ?


Calm down ..ya might have an heart attack.What am saying with all the oil ya got why cant you have something like your fellow oil producers ..like Dubai

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu2: 5:00pm On Apr 28, 2018
rvp20182:
I will continue to show you why our 85-88B dollar economy is not cooked - GDP is not nuclear science - it basic addition of production activities multiplied by market prices and all that summed up. The bare minimum ledger.

Okay -- 20B dollars worth of Kenya agriculture

No 3 ; KENYA HORTICULTURE SECTOR - worth 1-1.5B dollars. Verifiable export data.

This consist mainly our flowers, fruits and vegetables - and indeed Kenya is one the horticulture power house of the world. We export 150m metric tonnes of cut flowers. About 1/4 of all flowers sold in Europe are from Kenya. The fruits & vegetable you buy in Europe are mostly likely from Kenya. Avacados especially are growing so fast - South American countries that do this should be worried.

Kenya is the flower garden of Europe.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/africa/kenya-flower-industry/index.html


And this sectors support some 4.5M people


Kenya export tonnes of vegetable - french beans & avacados - are some of most common vegetable exported - meeting European standards without any problem


Next time you buy Avacados in Europe - knows it's grown in Kenya




Btw,was at Kakuzi to pick up some Hass seedlings. Avocado returns are more than twice tea!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:02pm On Apr 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Sugar Cane - Kenya produce 500-600M metric tonnes - Nigeria is happy with 100M metric tonnes - that is worth 0.5-1B dollars.

Potatos (Irish Potato).This is second most important food crop in Kenya after Maize. Annual production of more than 1-2M tonnes. This make the sector worth 0.5-1B dollars.

Rice - 360K metric tonnes - worth 200M dollars

Wheat - about the same as rice - worth 300M dollars

Beans - 500,000-1M metric tonnes - worth about 500M dollars

Cattle Production - Kenya has one of Africa largest herd of cows, sheeps and goats - annual production in beef & related 0.5-1B dollars.

Banana & other small crops

Fishing - Fresh Water & Marine is worth more than 0.5b dollars

Forestry - About 3.5% of our GDP - that 3B dollars.

Now you can do the addition - and see if you don't have 20b dollars worth of production in agriculture annually.

Let Nigeria now shows us the magic of their 150-200B dollar economy in AGRICULTURE.
HERE IS THE MAGICS grin grin
Guy u are damn sick embarassed embarassed, how could u compare Kenya a country that produces just 360K metric tonnes of rice(worth 200M usd) with Nigeria a country that produces 3.7 million tons of rice(N684 billion ($1.9 billion)? guy are you running mad or something
Nigeria among 16 top rice producers=Index Mundi (Mind you , this was December 2017 data)
https://newtelegraphonline.com/2018/02/nigeria-among-16-top-rice-producers/
Nigeria is currently second 2nd highest ranked Country behind USA in Sorghum, 4th in the world in Millet, Number one (1) in the world in cassava production ,Number 2 in the world in Ginger production , also number 2 in the world in Sweet potato and Okra production,Number 4th in the world in Goat production,Number 2 In the world in Cashew nut production, Number one in the world in Sheanut production, number 4 in the world in Peanut production .4th in Cocoa,

http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QC/visualize
http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QL/visualize
http://faostat3.fao.org/browse/rankings/countries_by_commodity/E
http://faostat3.fao.org/browse/Q/QL/E
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:09pm On Apr 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Yet another example of a Nigerian company being taken to cleaners. Card transactions in kenya are declining. ATMS are so yesterday - only a nigerian fool would buy them. The deal right now is 1) Mobile Money/Commerce and 2) Agency Banking. Why would you in 21st century in Kenya of all places...be buying ATMS (paynet)....the amount of CAPEX+OPEX - that Nigerian will take - mean they are not going to be making any money any time soon.

In the meantime our banks are turning crazy profits (25% is the norm per annum) because they are using mobile money+agency banking - nearly zero OPERATIONAL COST - JUST A SERVER SOMEWHERE - and some Nigerian fool is coming to bail out a dying company and thinking they'll make money running ATMS : grin INTER_SWITCH - so 1990!!!!!!!!!! - you can come and take all our ATMS for free - and ran them - most banks would be happy with such a deal - as they focus on mobile/digital strategy.

You can't hack it in Kenya. Try some of other place.But it's golden opportunity for people exiting last decade business to swindle Nigerians. And Kenya has been free market economy for a very long time - any company from anywhere is allowed - the Nigerian are welcome to come and we will help them burn their petro-dollars - but to make profit grin grin - that will be nearly impossible.

Stop lying boy. ATMs are still popular in Kenya and Inter switch a Nigerian company is raking in money from you Kenyans. In fact, as at last year 12 of your biggest banks signed on with inter switch. Here is KCB your biggest bank boasting of it's ATMs

https://ke.kcbgroup.com/deposit-cash-at-an-atm
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:12pm On Apr 28, 2018
68816419:

HERE IS THE MAGICS grin grin
Guy u are damn sick embarassed embarassed, how could u compare Kenya a country that produces just 360K metric tonnes of rice(worth 200M usd) with Nigeria a country that produces 3.7 million tons of rice(N684 billion ($1.9 billion)? guy are you running mad or something
Nigeria among 16 top rice producers=Index Mundi (Mind you , this was December 2017 data)
https://newtelegraphonline.com/2018/02/nigeria-among-16-top-rice-producers/
Nigeria is currently second 2nd highest ranked Country behind USA in Sorghum, 4th in the world in Millet, Number one (1) in the world in cassava production ,Number 2 in the world in Ginger production , also number 2 in the world in Sweet potato and Okra production,Number 4th in the world in Goat production,Number 2 In the world in Cashew nut production, Number one in the world in Sheanut production, number 4 in the world in Peanut production .4th in Cocoa,

http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QC/visualize
http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QL/visualize
http://faostat3.fao.org/browse/rankings/countries_by_commodity/E
http://faostat3.fao.org/browse/Q/QL/E
The pain of coming from a country of little relevance would not let him see that. Watch him twist things again. The previous Kenyans were stupid but this one combines all their stupidity.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:20pm On Apr 28, 2018
rvp20182:
That is not true. First if South Africans have a problem making it in Kenya - an open economy - due to internal competition - then that tell you Kenya is not your typical sub-saharan country like Nigeria - where South African companies ran the show.

Secondly the list of Nigeria companies who've invested in Nairobi recently is not even 10 - and all of them are burning money & will soon close down.

As regard to Kenya companies in Nigeria - Apart from KQ - they are many others - let me give you one more example- WPP-SCANGROUP - who ran advertising - are definitely in Nigeria.

Scan-group is It is the largest marketing and communication group operating a multi-agency model across multiple disciplines in Sub-Saharan Africa.
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Scangroup-bids-for-major-stake-in-rival-Kantar-TNS/996-4523596-vnkw4l/index.html

Now the next time you see an advert from Nigeria - it probably will be desgined in Nairobi - and hopefully you'll stop pushing ads in CNN - and loosing all your money.


A Nigerian bank is already the 19th biggest bank in Kenya out of your 43 miserable mom and pop banks. But don't worry, we are in Kenya for the long haul. In the next ten years Gtbank will be among your top 5 banks in Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 5:24pm On Apr 28, 2018
mtis:


Calm down ..ya might have an heart attack.What am saying with all the oil ya got why cant you have something like your fellow oil producers ..like Dubai
thats d corruption we have been complaining abt, bad leadership

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:24pm On Apr 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Poor Nigeria
Here Buhari's federal budget on education - Naira 600B - or 1.7B dollars --for 200M people. And Kenya is spending $ 4.2B in education. The giant is spending $1.7B and the dwarf $4.2B - and you wonder why Nigerians are illiterate and think vodooism aka nollywood is development.

Nigeria - the fulani herdman Buhari - unveil 1.7B dollar budget
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/248663-2018-budget-buhari-allocates-7-education.html

Kenya unveils - nearly 3 times that - for nearly 1/5 the kids grin
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/04/27/expenditure-on-education-to-hit-a-record-sh-415-billion-report_c1750408

If you were half-functioning country - you would be spending 30B dollars on education alone - but that's you entire budget grin grin

Hahaha grin grin

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