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felaismyhero:
someone is being castigated and excoriated for making a comment,and here u are making the same comment.i guess u dont understand wat u are saying.u talking of arabs,were they in chains?,did they have their owners signatures on their bodies?,were their daughters ever portrayed publicly for sport? pls try have correct info before commenting

CodeTemplar:
Stop getting emotional about the humilation and truthful about how the slave trade was 'permitted'. Are we still under slave trade today? Why aren't we doing well?

felaismyhero:
our doing well or not has nothing to do with the slave trade.the issue here is choice,and no a slave does not have choice.we have choice today.we can decide that we are tired of suffering but we cant if we are slaves

CodeTemplar:
We made our choices and stuck with it. If you dare bring a ship for willing slaves who would like to make journey today that ship will sink.
Even a thousand ship will sink. Look at the Libya situation.
Isn't that a choice?

Solstar:
Many people misunderstood and still misunderstand Kanye West and many people who did not watch that video should NOT cast aspersion on the intelligence called Kanye West. Kanye is no longer a 'normal' Human Being, he is more, because he is totally connected to the Universe and at that stage in Consciousness, you see things differently from the rest of the folks who have not read a single book in their lives, neither have they endeavored to conquer the lies that is called Politics and Religions.

Now, having stated the above, I want to weigh in here and say that would have been wrong if the slavery was for 100, 200, 300 years, but 400 years, it is not just painful that the Slaves after freedom grant from their Masters, they remained looking and reasoning like slaves. It is the fact that Black Americans still consider themselves slaves.

For free Human beings to consider themselves marginalized even if they are, then they need to start questioning the reason they refuse to read and expand their brains and start creating technologies instead of always blaming the white men for calling them animals and focus on how to become inventive.

Today, are we slaves ? NO, but an average black American still dwells in History, without opening their eyes to see that even all of lower human class are enslaved psychologically but they refuse to identify with that and are strongly working to become Gods among men.

Until we all who blame the white man for putting you down, learn that no one can put a determined and intellectually sound soul down, we are making no head way.

The Negro must start reading and stop worshipping and praying. No one is hunting anyone, except the demons in us.

Full Stop.

AnonyNymous:
Lol

You see something about me, I'm always on the "wrong side" of popular opinion.

As for Kanye West. I don't agree with anyone calling him an Uncle Tom. AKA a "House N*****". Basically, a black man that supports racist whites. And I think you must be really stupid if you think he is one, because all through his career, he's always made a point about how he, as a descendant of former slaves, made it in life.

Now to the topic. He said, "You know, after 400 years, it starts to seem like a choice". I think you should watch the whole video for context. It helps.

His point was pretty obvious. On the plantations in the Southern parts of the United States, where slavery was predominant, over time they'd grown to a LAGRE population and outnumbered the whites controlling them. I mean, the population ratio was probably like 50 blacks to one white supervisor. They had the physical strength. And they weren't chained anymore. What stopped them from launching a revolt and overthrowing their oppressors? There were revolts, but only by a few people while the rest of the scared slaves hid in fear of "Massa" (Master). Another thing that contributed to their fear was the religion they were taught. They were given Bibles and brainwashed. I mean, there are actual portions in the Bible where the "Almighty God" supposedly regulates slavery.

In essence, they were mentally enslaved as well, and therefore made the choice to remain in those shackles. Physical chains might take away choice from you, but when you're mentally enslaved, you have a choice to free yourself. You have a choice to wake up.

Harriet Tubman, a hero of the black slaves and possible face of a new US currency bill freed thousands of slaves through the "Underground Railroad". She made the CHOICE to emancipate herself from mental slavery and she escaped. She came back also, to free thousands of slaves. And she has a famous quote:

"I freed a thousand slaves, and I could've freed a thousand more, if only they KNEW they were slaves".

When listening to Kanye West (or anybody, for that matter) with an unprejudiced mind, the points he was trying to make were really clear. I'm happy that he made the effort to clarify himself AGAIN, on Twitter, but even at that most of the replies were unintelligent memes and people regurgitating the same "He said slavery is a choice blah blah blah". Only a someone with a 'half-brain' would actually think that he was implying that black men voluntarily chose to leave Africa to be enslaved in a strange land.

Unfortunately, there are too many dimwitted people in society today, who only feed on headlines and never apply critical reasoning to understand the content of the message being passed. We had a similar situation over here with the #LazyNigerianYouth hashtag.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Hope Kim kardashian would be invited as well including her sisters.Maybe there could be a Nigerian version of keeping up with the kardashians.They could act one episode and call it A vacation in Nigeria,in case they visit.

AnonyNymous:
Lol

You see something about me, I'm always on the "wrong side" of popular opinion.

As for Kanye West. I don't agree with anyone calling him an Uncle Tom. AKA a "House N*****". Basically, a black man that supports racist whites. And I think you must be really stupid if you think he is one, because all through his career, he's always made a point about how he, as a descendant of former slaves, made it in life.

Now to the topic. He said, "You know, after 400 years, it starts to seem like a choice". I think you should watch the whole video for context. It helps.

His point was pretty obvious. On the plantations in the Southern parts of the United States, where slavery was predominant, over time they'd grown to a LAGRE population and outnumbered the whites controlling them. I mean, the population ratio was probably like 50 blacks to one white supervisor. They had the physical strength. And they weren't chained anymore. What stopped them from launching a revolt and overthrowing their oppressors? There were revolts, but only by a few people while the rest of the scared slaves hid in fear of "Massa" (Master). Another thing that contributed to their fear was the religion they were taught. They were given Bibles and brainwashed. I mean, there are actual portions in the Bible where the "Almighty God" supposedly regulates slavery.

In essence, they were mentally enslaved as well, and therefore made the choice to remain in those shackles. Physical chains might take away choice from you, but when you're mentally enslaved, you have a choice to free yourself. You have a choice to wake up.

Harriet Tubman, a hero of the black slaves and possible face of a new US currency bill freed thousands of slaves through the "Underground Railroad". She made the CHOICE to emancipate herself from mental slavery and she escaped. She came back also, to free thousands of slaves. And she has a famous quote:

"I freed a thousand slaves, and I could've freed a thousand more, if only they KNEW they were slaves".

When listening to Kanye West (or anybody, for that matter) with an unprejudiced mind, the points he was trying to make were really clear. I'm happy that he made the effort to clarify himself AGAIN, on Twitter, but even at that most of the replies were unintelligent memes and people regurgitating the same "He said slavery is a choice blah blah blah". Only a someone with a 'half-brain' would actually think that he was implying that black men voluntarily chose to leave Africa to be enslaved in a strange land.

Unfortunately, there are too many dimwitted people in society today, who only feed on headlines and never apply critical reasoning to understand the content of the message being passed. We had a similar situation over here with the #LazyNigerianYouth hashtag.

CodeTemplar:
Slavery was a choice the same way our current predicament is a choice.

If the Arabs could revolt under better conditions and Nigerians are still choosing their oppressor sheepishly, then it was a choice and we are still maintaining that choice.

AnonyNymous:
Lol

You see something about me, I'm always on the "wrong side" of popular opinion.

As for Kanye West. I don't agree with anyone calling him an Uncle Tom. AKA a "House N*****". Basically, a black man that supports racist whites. And I think you must be really stupid if you think he is one, because all through his career, he's always made a point about how he, as a descendant of former slaves, made it in life.

Now to the topic. He said, "You know, after 400 years, it starts to seem like a choice". I think you should watch the whole video for context. It helps.

His point was pretty obvious. On the plantations in the Southern parts of the United States, where slavery was predominant, over time they'd grown to a LAGRE population and outnumbered the whites controlling them. I mean, the population ratio was probably like 50 blacks to one white supervisor. They had the physical strength. And they weren't chained anymore. What stopped them from launching a revolt and overthrowing their oppressors? There were revolts, but only by a few people while the rest of the scared slaves hid in fear of "Massa" (Master). Another thing that contributed to their fear was the religion they were taught. They were given Bibles and brainwashed. I mean, there are actual portions in the Bible where the "Almighty God" supposedly regulates slavery.

In essence, they were mentally enslaved as well, and therefore made the choice to remain in those shackles. Physical chains might take away choice from you, but when you're mentally enslaved, you have a choice to free yourself. You have a choice to wake up.

Harriet Tubman, a hero of the black slaves and possible face of a new US currency bill freed thousands of slaves through the "Underground Railroad". She made the CHOICE to emancipate herself from mental slavery and she escaped. She came back also, to free thousands of slaves. And she has a famous quote:

"I freed a thousand slaves, and I could've freed a thousand more, if only they KNEW they were slaves".

When listening to Kanye West (or anybody, for that matter) with an unprejudiced mind, the points he was trying to make were really clear. I'm happy that he made the effort to clarify himself AGAIN, on Twitter, but even at that most of the replies were unintelligent memes and people regurgitating the same "He said slavery is a choice blah blah blah". Only a someone with a 'half-brain' would actually think that he was implying that black men voluntarily chose to leave Africa to be enslaved in a strange land.

Unfortunately, there are too many dimwitted people in society today, who only feed on headlines and never apply critical reasoning to understand the content of the message being passed. We had a similar situation over here with the #LazyNigerianYouth hashtag.

BluntBoy:
My love, hope you are fine??

Just checking on you.

Hitokiri:
Kanye has a point. It took White people to free the Blackman from slavery. Why couldn't they band together and break free? Well I guess it's because of same bickering and infighting that has kept Africa and Nigeria in neo-slavery till today.

delpee:
Read about Slave rebellions. You'll understand better.

hayoholla:
One of the clog in wheel of the black race reluctance to move forward is the act of wallowing in self pity. When slave trade abolition anniversary is being celebrated, thats when we see orators and speakers painting pictures about how the blacks are being brutalised and tortured during the slave era, most of this is done to evoke self pity which in fact is a drwaback, thats a mental slavery on its own. We celebrate the abolition of slave trade and forgetting the objective and responsibilities of being free. Its good to know and understand history, the moment we keep on getting emotional about it, we will only be kept in inertia. Mental slavery is even worse because of the psychological effect it manisfested on the black race.

AAinEqGuinea:
Never a fan of Kanye but I'm glad he brought attention to one of many topics from Intro to African history.

Slavery was a CHOICE for everyone involved. How can anyone deny what he is saying? Africans "escaping" to the Middle East to become enslaved, was it NOT their choice? Or their hopeless and enslaved government who keeps them enslaved by their own greed. AA, African, and Caribbean history is not different, sadly we share the same root with the same flaws. African history has many dark chapters that Kanye is only beginning to talk about, much of our darkness is still lived to this day-- by choice.

Slimszy:
Well said, it's crazy we Africans always love the blame game and will never want to forge ahead. Many who are criticizing Kanye only understand the slavery palava from a black man perspective and clouded by emotions.

AnonyNymous:
Lol

You see something about me, I'm always on the "wrong side" of popular opinion.

As for Kanye West. I don't agree with anyone calling him an Uncle Tom. AKA a "House N*****". Basically, a black man that supports racist whites. And I think you must be really stupid if you think he is one, because all through his career, he's always made a point about how he, as a descendant of former slaves, made it in life.

Now to the topic. He said, "You know, after 400 years, it starts to seem like a choice". I think you should watch the whole video for context. It helps.

His point was pretty obvious. On the plantations in the Southern parts of the United States, where slavery was predominant, over time they'd grown to a LAGRE population and outnumbered the whites controlling them. I mean, the population ratio was probably like 50 blacks to one white supervisor. They had the physical strength. And they weren't chained anymore. What stopped them from launching a revolt and overthrowing their oppressors? There were revolts, but only by a few people while the rest of the scared slaves hid in fear of "Massa" (Master). Another thing that contributed to their fear was the religion they were taught. They were given Bibles and brainwashed. I mean, there are actual portions in the Bible where the "Almighty God" supposedly regulates slavery.

In essence, they were mentally enslaved as well, and therefore made the choice to remain in those shackles. Physical chains might take away choice from you, but when you're mentally enslaved, you have a choice to free yourself. You have a choice to wake up.

Harriet Tubman, a hero of the black slaves and possible face of a new US currency bill freed thousands of slaves through the "Underground Railroad". She made the CHOICE to emancipate herself from mental slavery and she escaped. She came back also, to free thousands of slaves. And she has a famous quote:

"I freed a thousand slaves, and I could've freed a thousand more, if only they KNEW they were slaves".

When listening to Kanye West (or anybody, for that matter) with an unprejudiced mind, the points he was trying to make were really clear. I'm happy that he made the effort to clarify himself AGAIN, on Twitter, but even at that most of the replies were unintelligent memes and people regurgitating the same "He said slavery is a choice blah blah blah". Only a someone with a 'half-brain' would actually think that he was implying that black men voluntarily chose to leave Africa to be enslaved in a strange land.

Unfortunately, there are too many dimwitted people in society today, who only feed on headlines and never apply critical reasoning to understand the content of the message being passed. We had a similar situation over here with the #LazyNigerianYouth hashtag.

SIRTee15:
Pls never u say slavery was a choice....
It's an insult n inexcusable ignorance to regurgitate such statement....
During the slavery era....
It was a very serious offence for even a white man to help a black slave escape from his master.....
Such white man could be jailed....
As a slave u can't even escape to free states in the USA without proper documents stating u are a free man....
U will be arrested n sent back to bondage....
Even free black men were kidnapped and sold off to deep south as slaves.....
Such people couldn't challenge their free legal status because blacks weren't allowed to stand or give witness in courts....
They become slaves forever....
Pls go n read Solomon northup memoir - 12 years a slave.....
not the movie but the book.....
Slavery was regarded as an integral part of the southern state's very existence....
Slaves were officially seen as personal properties n nothing else.....
Any attempt to deny the owners of their property is fiercely resisted.....
Solomon northup owner was so angry n bitter when the sheriff came to free Solomon....
He said if he had known they were coming, he would have killed northup, he promised to find out who helped Solomon n get him killed.....
Slavery then was an established institution with strong legal backing......
Opposing it in form of revolt or activism was regarded as an assault on the state...
In 1861, the white southerners rather chose to go to war than give up slavery....
They lost over 300 thousand of their own people before they finally gave up....
Black slavery was never a choice, it was an obligated evil blacks were forced to live with....

And please the population of whites in slaves states far outnumbered the black population at any given time during the slave era.....

SIRTee15:
Pls never u say slavery was a choice....
It's an insult n inexcusable ignorance to regurgitate such statement....
During the slavery era....
It was a very serious offence for even a white man to help a black slave escape from his master.....
Such white man could be jailed....
As a slave u can't even escape to free states in the USA without proper documents stating u are a free man....
U will be arrested n sent back to bondage....
Even free black men were kidnapped and sold off to deep south as slaves.....
Such people couldn't challenge their free legal status because blacks weren't allowed to stand or give witness in courts....
They become slaves forever....
Pls go n read Solomon northup memoir - 12 years a slave.....
not the movie but the book.....
Slavery was regarded as an integral part of the southern state's very existence....
Slaves were officially seen as personal properties n nothing else.....
Any attempt to deny the owners of their property is fiercely resisted.....
Solomon northup owner was so angry n bitter when the sheriff came to free Solomon....
He said if he had known they were coming, he would have killed northup, he promised to find out who helped Solomon n get him killed.....
Slavery then was an established institution with strong legal backing......
Opposing it in form of revolt or activism was regarded as an assault on the state...
In 1861, the white southerners rather chose to go to war than give up slavery....
They lost over 300 thousand of their own people before they finally gave up....
Black slavery was never a choice, it was an obligated evil blacks were forced to live with....

And please the population of whites in slaves states far outnumbered the black population at any given time during the slave era.....

You have made some good points. But, do u think that maybe Kanye is not referring to the initial act of enslavement but what happened as time went on? What I mean is that there is always a choice even if doesnt end in a favorable outcome. Ex..If a woman is in an abuse relationship, she can choose to stay and be maltreated or leave but that may result in economic hardship. Ex 2, some captives chose to die rather than be enslaved or remain enslaved.

AAinEqGuinea:
since when was making the right Choice ever easy and lacked the risk of persecution or death ?? Hard choices will always be tough as the phrase implies .

And no, the increasing African slave population was becoming a great concern to southern whites, which is why, with many modern ploys like outlawing new African imports, whites developed the 6-shooter revolver. Even while outnumbering whites in many southern areas, i guess their Choice to run, fight,or kill themselves became even harder. Nothing has changed, slavery and cowardice goes hand and hand.

SIRTee15:
Nope...
Only two states had more black population n that was towards the aboiltion period - Missisipi n south Carolina....
Overall, slaves constituted only 14 to 18% of total amercan population at any given time....
Black slaves were simply outnumbered....
Even free states will not tolerate any form of slaves uprising in slaves controlled states...
The US govt will bring in federal forces to crush it....
Read about John Brown, the violent abolitionist, a white man for that matter......
Despite the odds, there were over 300 black slaves revolt in america during this period with varying degree of success....
But the eventual outcome was ruthless suppression of the revolt with fatal consequences to both culprits n innocent black slaves....
The only choice to slaves who desire freedom by all means in those days was death....
And Yes, a lot of them chose death......
Example was Margaret Garner, who chose to kill herself n her children rather than allow slaves catchers return her to slavery while trying to cross the Ohio river....
Kenya west is just an attention seeking jackass....
He should tell us what he would have done differently that wasn't attempted if he had lived in those era....
Or better still, just shut up....
Anyway, I don't blame him...
Kim Kardashian, his so called wife who ought to make sure he takes his meds regularly doesn't care...
Instead, she's busy posting hot pictures on Instagram....
Kanye has no one to look after him to make sure he's mentally ok....
Maybe is ignorance is pardonable.....