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Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 9:47pm On May 09, 2018 |
nelszx: Now I'm really intrigued by your level of BS, if you dare take a biopsy from a patient, you will sleep in Kirikiri for the rest of your miserable life! Do you even know what a biopsy is? Do you realise a biopsy means part or whole of a specimen. You now want to take a Surgeon's job when you don't know anatomy? Lab scientist do not delve into histopathology, it is beyond your level of comprehension. Just because you can type and paste false information doesn't make it true. I am a surgeon and I will NEVER treat a patient based on a pathology report from a lab scientist. Abomination. 1 Like |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 9:48pm On May 09, 2018 |
Amarabae:That guys ignorance is longer than third mainland bridge. When you bring an intelligent argument and he doesn't have anything to say rather than name calling and telling you to go get JAMB form. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 9:58pm On May 09, 2018 |
Segeshow: Now your problem is you can't comprehend simple English should I type it in Yoruba maybe you can understand. Look through the link I sent to you. I'm telling you not to make a fuss about histopathology because we now have MLS who are specialists in histopathology slide reporting and interpretation. Mr intelligence open your head and let what you read sink in. You think medicine is practised in Nigeria alone. I'm giving you information from a corporate site and you call it false information oga ade use your phone it's a useful tool, always make it work. Go online and if you see anything contrary come back and quote me with the link. But for the time being, take a chill pill 3 Likes
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Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 10:04pm On May 09, 2018 |
Segeshow:Because you practise traditional medicine in Nigeria doesn't mean it's like that everywhere. My guy leave Nigeria you will accept and work with a histopathology report from a medical laboratory scientist. No wonder you leave Nigeria and start as a senior medical officer when you travel abroad because they need to remove those shitty misconceptions from your head. 2 Likes |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 10:07pm On May 09, 2018 |
[quote author=nelszx post=67427006] Now your problem is you can't comprehend simple English should I type it in Yoruba maybe you can understand. Look through the link I sent to you. I'm telling you not to make a fuss about histopathology because we now have MLS who are specialists in histopathology slide reporting and interpretation. Mr intelligence open your head and let what you read sink in. You think medicine is practised in Nigeria alone. I'm giving you information from a corporate site and you call it false information oga ade use your phone it's a useful tool, always make it work. Go online and if you see anything contrary come back and quote me with the link. But for the time being, take a chill pill[/quote Because to my knowledge, medical laboratory scientists now excise biopsies, views and interprets histopathological and gynaecological/cytological slides. As i said earlier and reiterate once again, if you dare excise a biopsy from any patient in this country you will go to jail. Those lab scientists that interprete histopathology have to have an advanced diploma, not some fresh out of school B.sc lab scientist with grandiose delusions of his level of competence and proficiency. Know your place. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 10:14pm On May 09, 2018 |
Segeshow: Now you have now come to terms that medical laboratory scientist interpret histopathology report (good we're making progress). Yes and I reiterate again those with advance diploma from the royal college of pathology. Don't worry very soon (I mean very soon) it would start in Nigeria because we have to borrow well what we started By the way it's not Bsc lab science but BMLS (Bachelors of Medical Lab Sci.). 3 Likes |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 10:31pm On May 09, 2018 |
nelszx: Joker. I now understand where your problem lies. You are comparing your half-baked qualifications with the lab scientists in the UK. Well till that day when pigs begin to fly and Nigerian surgeons begin to trust and equate the histopath reports of a lab scientist to that of their colleagues who have gone through and survived the rigors,sleepless nights and hardwork of a RESIDENCY training programme, the status quo remains. Guy accept, you have no idea what a histopathology slide looks like and to try to put yourself on the same level of competence and demand to be respected and remunerated as a physician simply won't happen. Go to bed and sleep on that. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 10:43pm On May 09, 2018 |
nelszx: It is obvious you have gone through great lengths to study what lab scientists in better climes are achieving by applying themselves to further their knowledge. Until such diplomas and advanced courses which are affiliated to medical educational boards mind you, gain recognition or rather begin to exist in Nigeria just don't waste your Internet data. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 10:49pm On May 09, 2018 |
Segeshow: As funny as this sounds, the BMLS guideline/curriculum adopted by Nigeria was actually developed by contemporaries in the UK the reason why there're no hitches as regards accepting a BMLS degree from Nigeria. If consultants in the UK can/are working with reports from a medical laboratory scientist you're rather insignificant. Your residency training is only useful in Nigeria cos outside Nigeria it's not recognised as such instead of a consultant you start as a senior medical officer. What do you think clinical scientists do when undergoing training from RCPATH? To peel egusi Don't worry we're medical laboratory scientist and not doctors, we'll get remunerated by what we do and not as physician but medical scientists. Imagine bringing remuneration into an argument that had no mention of it. 1 Like |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 11:09pm On May 09, 2018 |
nelszx: No Uncle, the curriculum was developed by your lab scientist academics. You make it sound like you with your Bsc Lab Science can just hop on a plane and travel to the UK and start practicing. Why are you finding it difficult to understand that all I am trying to get into your deluded skull is that you are not in the UK, you do not have the requisite competence to claim to be a clinical pathologist. You are a bloody lab scientist in Nigeria who is trying to usurp the authority of your betters. The residency trained physicians. I say it again you are in Nigeria and your curriculum and training is not enough for you to start making unfounded claims based on achievements in climes where proper standardisation of qualifications are vetted. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by mediclife1987(m): 11:37pm On May 09, 2018 |
Oh boy I dey enjoy this show.... 1 Like |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 11:54pm On May 09, 2018 |
Segeshow:Hahaha I hear you We are awarded BMLS degree not bsc lab sciences. If you have bsc in medical science no wahala. When you make your enquiries come back and requote me. Mr man I've never claimed to be a clinical pathologist in all my text and I'm working in ambiance with my job function and that I would jealously protect. Even in the UK the pathologists don't sign results generated by a medical scientist cos it is termed professional fraud and a jail sentence. You are claiming surgeon (consultant/ in training), leave Nigeria and see reality. Is it difficult for you to understand or learn simple comprehension? |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 11:54pm On May 09, 2018 |
mediclife1987: Show wey you start |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Basic123: 7:10am On May 10, 2018 |
Phayod777:Mr man,they are all dependent on the doctors though non is master of all. that is the fact,although, BITTER to the JOHESU members! |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by CarrilT(m): 11:49am On May 10, 2018 |
Really.....all health personnel and professionals are greedy and selfish....clear cut...I feel the root of all these nonsense comes from the situation of this country ..everybody wan chop. Be that as it may you only find this nonsense happen in the public/government sector... Abeg let's privatise all....make everybody get him own department.... Medical lab scientists department.... Pathologist department...... Medical and surgical department....let all be paid per work and hours put in as obtainable in a standard setting.....if admin staff do call let him be paid but he does his work on call.....everybody will sit up....these nonsense in health sector its because we all crying for feeding bottle from the government.... Everybody can equally open shops and work.......leave the patients to decided who they go meet.....they will still need everyone by the way. In all.....they are all poppies crying to a failed state..... |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by mediclife1987(m): 1:25pm On May 10, 2018 |
CarrilT: Apt comment... |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by davbravo(m): 2:16pm On May 10, 2018 |
Segeshow:This is so funny. Even as a student I know what a Histopathology slide looks like..... |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 3:35pm On May 10, 2018 |
davbravo: Don't mind that guy, he later changed his stance on that. When you present someone fact beyond reasonable doubt thats what they end up doing (being defensive and resort to insults). They/he feel(s) we go to school to break/peel egusi He wants me to accept i dont know what histopathology slide looks like more like asking him if he knows what an ovary looks like. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Segeshow: 6:05pm On May 10, 2018 |
nelszx: Uncle, you claimed you and your lab scientists can "excise" a biopsy. Complete trash. Your obsession with comparing your training with those abroad and demanding equal recognition is trash. Why do Doctors in the US have personalised license plates indicating they are doctors and are given parking privileges? We actually do the saving of lives while you people sit on your asses all day spewing misleading results and "treating" patients you have neither taken a history from or examined in your private quack establishments. The Doctor is and always will be head of the medical team. I can function without you and depend on results from colleagues who are pathologist. You can't do the same. If I don't admit a patient you will be as useful as an ear on the elbow. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by nelszx: 8:30pm On May 10, 2018 |
Segeshow: Okay sir Whether you like admit a patient or not, should the patient require laboratory service or any other services to get well, he'd come it's not something under your control (let that sink in). He's there to get well not to look at your face. Well I work in a hospital owned by a foreign trained Nigerian doctor not with this your mentality (that has replaced the patient with yourself) but rather places the patient at the centre of all the health professionals. Every individual with his/her own role to play to make the patient get well. Once a patients leaves the doctors office and enters mine he becomes my patient etc. Even rounds everybody contributes as it's open to all (well exposed individual who knows what personalised medicine is all about). If you know or see any medical laboratory scientist treating a patient call the police and get him arrested as that is not part of his job function so he's an impostor (I repeat not every lab scientist is a medical laboratory scientist). It's a simple cycle with everyone involved (patient based care), the more you understand this process the better our hospital and/or your patients. If you feel I will be as useful as an ear on the elbow, send your patients home as you are the omniknoweth 1 Like |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by bhlesingglory(m): 6:43am On May 11, 2018 |
mediclife1987: Just wondering nio, where does a physiotherapist come into play in all you have written? |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Nobody: 9:42am On May 14, 2018 |
thesicilian:You were lied to in school that's the problem...it's more a case of a child who was lied to about his father being God while growing but now refusing to accept the reality of the man his dad truly is...deception is really dangerous. We all meet the patients need at different points of care. You keep on yelling international beat practices yet calling other health professionals distant inferior. Obasanjo pleaded with economic experts and many other professionals to return home to build the country...not just the drs. I don't know who planted this empty ego in you. Much learnings should make you humble not puffing you up...that's the difference between an educated and an illiterate. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Nobody: 10:06am On May 14, 2018 |
Segeshow:the university system that trains the laboratory scientists is also the system training the drs so if the universities are producing half baked lab scientists what kind of drs do you think they are producing? half baked i guess! Nigeria drs write like other health workers are not schooled at all... If you truly went to school i know you took your pharmacology at the faculty of pharmacy and I also believe you have many pharmacy students as friends... do they undergo stress and sleepless nights? do they have social life, extracurricular activities and et al? If you ll be truthful to yourself, In the universities what department do other students fear the most? I used to have a medical friend in school who was always bossing around bragging about how tedious and difficult medicine is but eventually got withdrawn from the programme and in our search for a new department, i suggested she gets the change of course form for pharmacy only for her to admit that if she couldn't survive medicine is it pharmacy she will come and do? at that point she accepted the obvious. In the first place pharmacy will never accept her...It has never been done...If you can't survive medicine, pharmacy will be a more difficult place for you and this is the fact so this mentality of only drs are better educated is nothing but falsehood. Health care is a team and joint effort. We are greater and better when we work together. 3 Likes |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Jman06(m): 10:13am On May 14, 2018 |
The patient does not come to the hospital to "see doctor" but to get treated. Are doctors movies 3 Likes |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by thesicilian: 10:24am On May 14, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019:It is always easy to know when a so called JOHESU talks, speech always filled with venom, insults and disguised hatred. Do you know that inferiority complex is worse than superiority complex (which you call ego and acuse the doc of)? Why on Earth would a trained licensed Pharmacist or a Nurse (whether BSc or RN) equate him or herself with a janitor or a laboratory technician ("JOHESU" just to fight a perceived common enemy? The smallest toe is a very important part of the body and if anything were to happen to it one may never remain the same; in short it's even possible it might lead to death, but does that make the toe as important as the brain? Or the heart? Each man is vital to the organization, but not at the same level. And only a CEO with low self-esteem would want to equate himself with the janitor 'for peace to reign' 1 Like |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by femianski: 11:37am On May 14, 2018 |
[quote author=Segeshow post=67427214][/quote]
the MLS students do work on histopathology slides here in UCH bro
and there are |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by femianski: 11:38am On May 14, 2018 |
[quote author=Segeshow post=67427214][/quote]the MLS students do work on histopathology slides here in UCH bro |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by Gr8amechi: 4:12pm On May 14, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019:I beg to disagree, maybe it's the person in question I know people back in my class that were withdrawn from med school and went on to pharmacy and broke records. It's not absolute 2 Likes |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by mediclife1987(m): 2:11am On May 18, 2018 |
thesicilian: This time around, no one will fall for such scam. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by phase1: 10:35am On Jun 02, 2018 |
nelszx: I have a friend (was my room mate while in medical school) he finished medicine and travelled abroad and was shocked that he would not be even allowed to practice as a phlebotomist (a job below the level of laboratory assistant in the medical laboratory hierachy) without adequate certification. He thought his 'almighty' nigerian MBBS degree covered that already. |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by MrBigiman: 12:00pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
mediclife1987: Quite shameful to retreat to a charlatan @Medclif. You had a good post, but allowed the charlatans opinion sway ur stream of thought. A Medical laboratory scientist can never no matter his years of experience be termed a pathologist, instead the same body regulates laboratory practice in advance Climes. This would be fought against by MLS, which seek unholy autonomy. Below is a link to the Organogram or pathways for laboratory Medicine in the UK, their training and qualification are also spelt out clearly. Johesu is a cancer that must either be excised or burns radiotherapeutically, any pallying with them is playing with fire. https://www.rcpath.org/discover-pathology/i-want-a-career-studying.html |
Re: The Patient Comes To The Hospital To See The Doctor. by MrBigiman: 12:02pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
phase1: Cheap lies. May ur lies catch u with u. |
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