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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:04am On May 11, 2018
rvp20182:
Apart from the fact all that extra-hassle - unloading then loading again on train - is waste of money+time. I think some cargo especially destined to countries like Uganda can be evacuated directly from ship to train - and taken to inland deports - where it can be verified and released to the owners.

Right now all that extra mile work - unloading and loading is probaby costing a day. Which is something...our ports are now averaging 3-5 days to release cargo...nigeria are doing 30days - while places like Singapore are doing it in matters hours!


yeah, I don't see the need for that train meet ship too, it's just a waste of resources.

The emboldened is false BTW.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:34am On May 11, 2018
Of course - you don't understands - that is why Kenya ranks globally at position 42 - in WB's Logistic performance index - beating many developed countries - and is only bettered by South Africa which has world -class infrastructure. Nigeria ranks position 90!
https://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

In terms of ports - Nigeria ports are so inefficient the least said about them the better - in fact most nigeria would rather import thro' Benin than Lagos really bad ports.

Mombasa port has been improving tremendously - and is now if I am not wrong the 4 busiest port - beating Nigerian ports - they are only bettered by Durban and North Africa port of Morocco & Egypt.


theenchanter:
yeah, I don't see the need for that train meet ship too, it's just a waste of resources.

The emboldened is false BTW.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:41am On May 11, 2018
http://www.freightintoafrica.com/article/why_high_dwell_times_in_african_ports
Cargo dwell times in African ports are unusually long—more than two weeks on average, compared to under a week in large ports in Asia, Europe, and Latin America. Excluding Durban and Mombasa, average cargo dwell time in most ports in Africa is close to 20 days[/b] (see the table below).

Meanwhile Nigeria's port are Africa worst grin grin

https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/cargo-dwell-time-in-nigerian-seaports-remains-highest-in-africa/
Imported cargo into Nigeria stays longer in the port before being cleared by inspection authorities when compared with other seaports in Africa, a study funded by the Nigeria Shippers’ Council (NSC) reveals.

In Nigeria’s [b]seaport, cargo dwells for 19-25 days; in Cotonou, 12-14 days; in Durban port, South Africa, four days, while in Mombassa port, Kenya, cargo stays a maximum of 5.7 days, the study further notes.


In 2012 - Mombasa I know has drastically improved to about 3-4 days if not less cargo dwell time.


In 2017 - Container ship average working time at the port of Mombasa improved by half a day to record 1.93 days in the week ended August 16th. The previous week saw this period which is basically between the first and last slings register 2.55 days.

While this happened, the container dwell time at the port recorded[b] 4.35 days[/b]down from 4.85 days experienced in the previous week.https://www.kpa.co.ke/Pages/Port-of-Mombasa-records-shorter-ship-average-working-time.aspx

In 2018 - Durban got to be worried as Mombasa port launch the Africa's first SHIP TO TRAIN smiley evacuation - meaning cargo dwell time is less than a day - ship docks and cargo is off to inland the same day.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:54am On May 11, 2018
While Nigeria's wait for Dangote to build a new port for himself; Kenya has progressively improved Mombasa port from the horror days when it was like Nigeria ports that takes 3-4 weeks for container to be cleared to now when it's launched Africa's first ship to train. This will translate to huge savings by shippping companies, customers in time+money - which get passed down to economy.[/b]

The MD said the [b]ship turn-around, which is the time taken by a vessel from when it berths to the time it leaves the Port, achieved an all-time high of 2.9 days. Cargo dwell time has also come down from 12.6 days to four days.

“We want a port that waits for ships and not the vice-versa,” she said. To remain responsive to shipping and trade trends, the port has continued to implement elaborate port modernisation programmes to position Mombasa as a world class port of choice.

“We have expanded yards and berths to handle more cargo, revamped our ICT system for faster document processing and modernized cargo handling equipment,” she said.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:07am On May 11, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:23am On May 11, 2018
rvp20182:
Of course - you don't understands - that is why Kenya ranks globally at position 42 - in WB's Logistic performance index - beating many developed countries - and is only bettered by South Africa which has world -class infrastructure. Nigeria ranks position 90!
https://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

In terms of ports - Nigeria ports are so inefficient the least said about them the better - in fact most nigeria would rather import thro' Benin than Lagos really bad ports.

Mombasa port has been improving tremendously - and is now if I am not wrong the 4 busiest port - beating Nigerian ports - they are only bettered by Durban and North Africa port of Morocco & Egypt.



You beat me to it! I was looking for the last WB IMF Global Logistics Performance Index of 2016. As usual you can guess where we are.

RSA is 20th globally while we're 42 the highest place for a nation at our level of development.

Portugal 2016 36 3.41 3.37 3.09 3.24 3.15 3.65 3.95
New Zealand 2016 37 3.39 3.18 3.55 2.77 3.22 3.58 4.12
Estonia 2016 38 3.36 3.41 3.18 3.07 3.18 3.25 4.08
Iceland 2016 39 3.35 3.13 3.02 3.32 3.26 3.42 3.88
Panama 2016 40 3.34 3.13 3.28 3.65 3.18 2.95 3.74
Slovak Republic 2016 41 3.34 3.28 3.24 3.41 3.12 3.12 3.81
Kenya 2016 42 3.33 3.17 3.21 3.24 3.24 3.42 3.70
Latvia 2016 43 3.33 3.11 3.24 3.28 3.29 3.42 3.62

http://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

Dangotelanders,who was behind Ghana but ahead of mighty Togo-HAHAHAHA!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Donald95(m): 9:32am On May 11, 2018
Am a Nigerian but Truth be told, Since Buhari and his foolish policies came up Kenya is far ahead of Nigeria trust me

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:38am On May 11, 2018
The salient point is apparent when you look at the trend...in 2007...Kenya was ranked 76....and has now climbed nearly 40 position..and overtaken that many countries. Nigeria in 2007 was ranked 93...and now is ranked 90. So in 10 yrs while Kenya is making tremendous progress Nigeria is stuck right there. Look at port improvement...they either have stagnated or gotten worse...while Kenya is slowly and surely challenging South Africa.In fact I would wager to say by next year Mombasa would have overtaken Durban as Sub-Sahara most efficient port!
kikuyu1:


You beat me to it! I was looking for the last WB IMF Global Logistics Performance Index of 2016. As usual you can guess where we are.

RSA is 20th globally while we're 42 the highest place for a nation at our level of development.

Portugal 2016 36 3.41 3.37 3.09 3.24 3.15 3.65 3.95
New Zealand 2016 37 3.39 3.18 3.55 2.77 3.22 3.58 4.12
Estonia 2016 38 3.36 3.41 3.18 3.07 3.18 3.25 4.08
Iceland 2016 39 3.35 3.13 3.02 3.32 3.26 3.42 3.88
Panama 2016 40 3.34 3.13 3.28 3.65 3.18 2.95 3.74
Slovak Republic 2016 41 3.34 3.28 3.24 3.41 3.12 3.12 3.81
Kenya 2016 42 3.33 3.17 3.21 3.24 3.24 3.42 3.70
Latvia 2016 43 3.33 3.11 3.24 3.28 3.29 3.42 3.62

http://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

Dangotelanders,who was behind Ghana but ahead of mighty Togo-HAHAHAHA!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:50am On May 11, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Is he free to appoint his own cabinet? I feel he should appoint a few Oromo into govt just to ensure Oromos have stronger representation.
Also, you'll excuse my lack of infor but how was he elected? Dont you guys do elections? I think if you had elections Oromos would get a fair chance.
Who won in the fight? I hope Oromos won grin Kenyans have a soft spot for Ethiopian Oromos dont be surprised if we invade one day to free them from your haggardly domination.


Oromos actually has strong representatives, there is a man named Gedu and other guy. Tigrays have many representatives but not Amhara. Many people fear if Oromos fight again but I fear if Amharas start cuz they have no voice. Land of Amhara has been taken by the govt and they will turn wild any time soon. . .And if they did . . .it's going to be very difficult cuz I heard there are Amhara forces training in Eritrea to launch attack on our gov't. And I am not surprised cuz the govt was supposed to hear them. All the bullet our government is shooting is killing the government itself.


I am happy Kenyans that are close to Ethiopians and I've been watching the talks of President Uhuru Kenyatta and our PM yesterday. It was really nice and I hope this relationship will stay forever between our gov't and the people.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:54am On May 11, 2018
robosky02:
hello ednite

Robo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:25am On May 11, 2018
I can see potential of using google duplex here..Scamming just got a shot .No embarrassment of weird accent. Just tell google to do it for you..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VN56jQMWM
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:30am On May 11, 2018
obaaderemi:

See photos of Desperate Jubilee allowing children
to vote in Kiambu, Muranga and Nyeri. Child voters in Kenya.

Mon use your bundles well….This is just pathetic cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:37am On May 11, 2018
Way to go naijas grin

Operatives of the Nigerian Police force have arrested and paraded 56 bandits allegedly responsible for killings and kidnappings in Birnin Gwari, Kaduna State and Zamfara State.

This is not a gang but an army.Guys ya got major problem here

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:13am On May 11, 2018
If Ethiopia and Kenya could open their borders and allow movement of labour+trade; both countries would benefit tremendously. It good start but it way too slow. Let see if LAPSET - and opening up of moyale - tarmac -connecting Nairobi & Addis will kick start something. And of course the new AFTEC - Africa free trade - ought to ease trading btw Kenya and Ethiopia.
ednited:

I am happy Kenyans that are close to Ethiopians and I've been watching the talks of President Uhuru Kenyatta and our PM yesterday. It was really nice and I hope this relationship will stay forever between our gov't and the people.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 12:11pm On May 11, 2018
you wakandan scumbaggs.....go fvck yourselfs.....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 12:21pm On May 11, 2018
Hey!someone is mad!
justtoodark:
you wakandan scumbaggs.....go fvck yourselfs.....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:45pm On May 11, 2018
rvp20182:
The salient point is apparent when you look at the trend...in 2007...Kenya was ranked 76....and has now climbed nearly 40 position..and overtaken that many countries. Nigeria in 2007 was ranked 93...and now is ranked 90. So in 10 yrs while Kenya is making tremendous progress Nigeria is stuck right there. Look at port improvement...they either have stagnated or gotten worse...while Kenya is slowly and surely challenging South Africa.In fact I would wager to say by next year Mombasa would have overtaken Durban as Sub-Sahara most efficient port!

Those are the outstanding trends throughout this thread! Constant rapid improvement in all sectors in one country while the other sinks ever deeper and faster while their denizens scream with joy as their no 1 countryman uses his billions to cure ED in the South Pacific! I'd really like to see the latest Logistics Performance Index with the operational SGR-imo,we should rise at least 3 places just for that.
I agree 2 years latest Msa will overtake Durban;but give us 20-30 more years and we'll pass them as surely as we've bypassed delirious Dangotelanders hysterically yelping about their invisible half trillion dollar dollar GDP . Its very doable!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:54pm On May 11, 2018
theenchanter:
yeah, I don't see the need for that train meet ship too, it's just a waste of resources.

The emboldened is false BTW.

Dude,its called seamless logistics. Direct from ship straight to train transport for onward delivery to final consignee saves much time.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:08pm On May 11, 2018
mtis:


Mon use your bundles well….This is just pathetic cheesy
Get your eyes checked, little boy.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:10pm On May 11, 2018
theenchanter:
u sef get wahala..... grin. Stop disturbing urself with these guys. if u decide to replicate every of their post, na u go tire.
Na dem go tire. Trust me.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by UFAShow: 2:48pm On May 11, 2018
Nowenuse:


So u mean it snows in Kenya?

Dear Nyangau123,

my name is Sinikka and I work for a German TV production company. We really would like to show your pictures. Is it possible to contact you to explain everything?

All best
Sinikka
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:08pm On May 11, 2018
UFAShow:


Dear Nyangau123,

my name is Sinikka and I work for a German TV production company. We really would like to show your pictures. Is it possible to contact you to explain everything?

All best
Sinikka

Perhaps you can explain to me better by inboxing me or writing to my email at nowenuseka@gmail.com
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:02pm On May 11, 2018
gallivant:


Mali of today still has gold but is broke and the inhabitants highly illiterate. What's your point?

The Mongols conquered almost half of the world, today where are they now?
Weren't the Kingdoms of Abyssinia (Ethiopia) and that of Nubia (Sudan) extremely powerful and rich kingdoms in the past? Today, where are they?
What about Egyptians?

How powerful is Turkey, Iran and Greece today compared to when they were world powers who controlled the entire world?

So, what exactly is your own point?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:55pm On May 11, 2018
Kenya Open 2017 was not complete without Jay Jay Okocha who had the honour of teeing off the tournament.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:43pm On May 11, 2018
rvp20182:
Yes got to agree with you; Nigeria though has world most poorest people having overtaken India.
grin just keep saying it , till u believe it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:49pm On May 11, 2018
Muafrika2:


Not surprised.

But 3rd poorest country in the world!! Chai!
grin and Kenya is the richest country in the world , I'm not suprised too grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12pm On May 11, 2018
justtoodark:
you wakandan scumbaggs.....go fvck yourselfs.....
fvck off my mention

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 11:14pm On May 11, 2018
wakandan:
fvck off my mention

hmmm....e-bashing....who are you....??

you wakandan....??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:20am On May 12, 2018
Nowenuse:


The Mongols conquered almost half of the world, today where are they now?
Weren't the Kingdoms of Abyssinia (Ethiopia) and that of Nubia (Sudan) extremely powerful and rich kingdoms in the past? Today, where are they?
What about Egyptians?

How powerful is Turkey, Iran and Greece today compared to when they were world powers who controlled the entire world?

So, what exactly is your own point?

My point was about Islam and slavery. I was drawing parallels between Dangote and Mansa Musa dumb@$$! Whats yours?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 3:32am On May 12, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Who wants to be more white than Nigerian bleachers? There is nothing normal in Kenya from the picture you posted. Kenyans are some of the proudest, self-respecting, and respected Africans you will ever meet. In your country, normal are the Bobrisky kind of things that you guys do and shamelessly call it 'Toning'.


You should listen to this song before we get the groove on with your favorite topics. A kenyan had to go out of his way to ensure you get the memo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8LFwC1nEpU

That song was created by a Nigerian producer, with Nigerian women though . And wouldn't bleachers in general want to be more white? Sauty Soul is so good though.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 3:44am On May 12, 2018
Its amazing that this thread and comparison contest is still going on. I have a question though. Has anyone been to Namibia, and how bad is the inequality between the whites and blacks?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 4:02am On May 12, 2018
TayserMahiri:


80 % Where is that from chief cook.
Say 80 % of bad news not in general. And you take 80 % of bad news alone not with SA.

Codeine is a chiefly Nigerian problem because you need it most to reduce the suffering and pain.
I disagree with this. I read through the comments and people from Northeast India, Kenya, Bangledash, Ghana, South Africa were commenting on the same issues lol. I agree they don't just cover Nigeria and South Africa, they manage to cover various negative African stories.

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