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Primesky:
O Lord, please open the eyes of these people to know who you are. May they be converted like Saul was converted. Please Lord forgive them for they know not what they're doing.

sKeetz:
The way you describe this hell fire makes one wonder if it's at your backyard.

dalaman:
Yahweh is a fool. Anybody that believes in Yahweh is also a fool.

sKeetz:
The way you describe this hell fire makes one wonder if it's at your backyard.

dalaman:
His God is fear. He wants people to worship a God he says will burn people in fire for all eternity because they refuse to love him back and obey him. See how sadistic he is.

frank317:
Lol...the fear of hell done fry that one brain

sKeetz:
Lol

His God omni-insecure. He needs human validation and attention else he cease to exist.

sKeetz:
their belief is centered on hell fire; without hellfire, their God disappears into oblivion.

sKeetz:
their belief is centered on hell fire; without hellfire, their God disappears into oblivion.

calmG:
skeetz pls reply to my DM...its very important

sKeetz:
ok done

dalaman:
When did any God appear to you PERSONALLY and tell you that he has any word? When where and how did that happen? Or did you just accept the words of other men hook line and sinker that claimed to.speak for a particularversion and idea of God they imagined?

You started by claiming in your first post that atheist think they can reason for God then you then went ahead to do the very same thing. You reasoned for your God and served as his mouth piece using your own reasoning as to why he does things or allow them. I keep telling you that if your God exist as advertised you will never be his mouth piece. You are only projecting what you feel God should do and dishing it out to us as if it means anything.



All.these are empty platitudes the inventors of your God use to keep people quiet and in line. They know the God they advertise does not act as they want it to act so they lie to themselves and others that his ways are not like theirs, when a simple reading of the bible shows that not to be true. The God of the bible that in some places calls humans to reason with him is the same God that in other places says that his ways are not the same with that of humans. Contradictory nonsense. It's always one contradiction or the other laced with empty platitudes.

If common sense is common you won't be living your life hanging and depending on man made mythology and fictions as you do. Some ancient men invented a God idea and here you are grabbing it and depending on their fictional ideas totally, yet you still have the guts to say that common sense isn't common when you are the perfect example to show that it isn't.

hopefulLandlord:
I think Christians that agree there's really nothing that can only happen to non Christians should take their time to correct the wrong preachings by pastors and evangelists

When you hear preachers preaching they'll tell you about how your life in Jesus would be sweet, how all your problems would go away or at least your life would improve if you accept a Jew killed by three nails in a Small Israeli village aeons ago died for your sins. This is what preachers and evangelists preach. Infact they'll say the issues you're going through are there because you lack Jesus and haven't given your life to him, they use real life examples like
"You've been struggling and can't make ends meet"
"Your mates are making it and they've left you behind"
"your marriage has been barren, no children"
"You can't get a spouse, they're all turning your proposals down or they're not proposing (for the women)"
"you lost your job"
"You're fighting a disease, your health is deteriorating. doctors have given you just a few more years to live"

They tell listeners Jesus is the answer, they'll then cite examples of people who've been married for years with no children but pregnancy came almost as soon as they gave their lives to Christ. examples of people who's business boomed as soon as they accepted Jewish mythology. They'll talk about a jobless person who got a high paying job as soon as he accepted zombies rose out of their graves and walked around Jerusalem. They'll talk about how they drove a car from Ore to Lagos on empty tank because they believed Jesus flew bodily out of earth

They'll spice it up with testimony time where people would come out and say they dodged a bullet by the power of a Jew amongst many other ridiculous stories


This is the Christianity preachers and evangelists sell to the non Christians and they get a few members here and there from such messages but such converts finds out very quickly that this new Awesome life in Christ falls far short of some kind of divinely orchestrated masterpiece. They have that sickness, their businesses are still failing, they still haven't gotten the child, their marriage is still unloving, still no fiancé or fiancée, still can't get jobs etc. infact their problems didn't disappear but probably got worse. Jesus is supposed to be divinely guiding their new lives from morning pee to dreamland and everything in between, but it seems that the Christians have a "plain ole life" just like all the heathen and unbelievers. infact there's NO difference between their former lives and this new one


I'm of the opinion that those Christians that think the way these preachers package and sell Christianity is wrong owe it to Jesus to pushback against it and call out these preachers for not preaching the way its supposed to be. But they won't do that, why? I have a theory. its the same reason adverts of most drugs talk about what sickness the drug would cure but its when you buy it that you see its side effects in barely visible fine print on the container of the drug. its the same reason fast food companies print unrealistic pictures of burgers, looking "sexy" and 100000% bigger than its life size. Its the same reason designer clothing companies Photoshop their models to make them look unrealistically sexy in their clothes etc Christianity is just another business and lies are welcome cuz the end justifies the means.....just like most of the pharmaceutical, fast food and clothing businesses

CAPSLOCKED:

PRAYING TO JESUS AND PRAYING TO A STALE BREAD BRINGS THE SAME RESULTS.

LIKEWISE NOT PRAYING AT ALL. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE PRAYING & BELIEVING IS VERY UNIMPORTANT.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME BEING A CHRISTIAN GUARANTEES A BETTER LIFE THAN THE REST. THAT'S WHY THE PREACHERS CHAIN BELIEVERS DOWN WITH THE CONCEPT OF AN IMAGINARY AFTERLIFE AND PERMANENT MERRIMENT.

PREACHERS URGE BELIEVERS NOT TO BOTHER TOO MUCH ABOUT THEIR CURRENT SITUATION, THAT GOD HAS A PLAN.. AND THAT THINGS WILL GET BETTER.
IF IT GETS BETTER FOR BELIEVERS THEY BELIEVE GOD'S PLAN HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED. IF IT NEVER GETS BETTER TILL THEY DIE THEY BELIEVE GOD'S PLAN FOR THEM IS IN HEAVEN.... THEN I WONDER THE CRITERIA FOR GETTING GODS BLESSINGS NOW INSTEAD OF WHEN I'M DEAD.... WHY TRUE BELIEVERS HAVE TO SUFFER AND DIE IN POVERTY WHILE UNBELIEVERS WHO WORK HARD AND SMART ENOUGH (WITH ALL THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES) SUCCEED.
IF BOTH POVERTY & WEALTH ARE BOTH GODS PLAN, LIKEWISE SICKNESS & HEALTH.... WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE BORN INTO THE ROYAL FAMILY AND NOT CHAD WHERE THERE'S JUST 1 (UNPROFESSIONAL) DOCTOR FOR EVERY 1,000 PATIENT, A COUNTRY WHERE NOBODY IS EXPECTED TO LIVE BEYOND 49 YEARS?


I REMEMBER HOW ONE OF THESE CONMEN TOLD HIS CONGREGATION THAT THEY SHOULD FORGET ABOUT THE MONEY, THAT DANGOTE WON'T MAKE HEAVEN BECAUSE HE DOESN'T TITHE.


PRAY ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE DRUGS FOR THAT SICKNESS. YOU HAVE TO TAKE EXAMS TO BE PROMOTED AND YOU HAVE TO WORK TO GET PAID. PRAY ALL YOU WANT.. IF THE DRIVER DOESN'T GO SAFELY YOU GONNA DIE IN THE CAR CRASH. PRAY ALL YOU WANT MATE YOU CANNOT GET A NAIL TO MOVE NOT TO TALK OF A MOUNTAIN.
IF THE DOCTORS DON'T FIX A DAMAGED LIMB, NO AMOUNT OF PRAYERS CAN FIX IT... OR FIX SICKLE CELL.


THE PREACHERS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SOUL OR SALVATION... THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT GOD OR HEAVEN, OR THE AFTERLIFE. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT ONE THING; CREDIT ALERTS.

sKeetz:
their belief is centered on hell fire; without hellfire, their God disappears into oblivion.

Martinez19:
No matter what tragedy a christian faces, other christians are fond of saying "God hasn't/never/can't/will never abandon you" seriously, let's take a look at some examples.

CHRISTIAN: I lost my whole family in a car accident.
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN:"God hasn't/never/can't/will never abandon you"

CHRISTIAN: I have spent five years in jail for something I didn't do and I have seven more years to go.
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN:"God hasn't/never/can't/will never abandon you"

THOMAS: the doctor said I have stomach cancer.
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN:"God hasn't/never/can't/will never abandon you"

**** Four months later Thomas is dead ****

THOMAS'S SON: My dad died of stomach cancer
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN:"God hasn't/never/can't/will never abandon you"

For logic's sake, the same can be made for gods of other religion and I am sure if all these happened to a Muslim, many christians will laugh at the muslim god's inefficiency forgetting that their's isn't better.

Can any christian on Nairaland tell me what, in this life, can happen to someone who god has abandoned that can't happen to someone who God hasn't abandoned?