dreamchaser90:


Unfortunately, I've witness riots in Jos, Kafanchan and Kaduna. Even though you can blame one side for starting it, both sides were also guilty of killings.
Sad, but true.

There is a difference between Self Defense and Attack.


Mention one attack by the Igbos

Reelectbuhari:



they didn't start today

it started in 1967

40s actually..

HiddenShadow:


There is a difference between Self Defense and Attack.


Mention one attack by the Igbos

True, there is.
And also true is the fact that I've not heard of any riot that was started by Igbos in all those places I've been.

But the main topic at the beginning was about how Igbos view Hausas and I stand by my earlier submission that we have tribal bias in both tribes. So we shouldn't just label and judge people by their tribe or religion but by their deeds.

HiddenShadow:



I have edited your comment with the first year Igbos were killed by the Hausa Fulani people.

u most welcome......

the killing and progrom still continue today and with a new dimension.......

when I watched a video of how over 150 armless protesters were gunned down in nkpor.....i came to th conclusion that the war never ended......it continues....


mother's losing their children
fathers losing their children
children losing their parents
family member losing their loved ones....


mohammed Buhari can u stop this blood shed.....is too much....

mightyhazell:
40s actually..

noted

dreamchaser90:
This is not about tribe, ethnicity or even race because in any group of people, we have both the good and the bad. There are Igbos that discriminate or have preconceived motions about Hausas or northerners in general(I won't use the hate, because it's too strong a word to use here). Same as we have Hausas or Northerners that discriminate or have preconceived notions about Igboes or Southerners in general.

We really need to start judging people based on their deeds and not tribe, ethnicity or religion. Btw, my mom is Igbo while dad is from the north so I've seen and experience both worlds.

ur mum is igbo....quite accepted and ur dad from north( a serious issue).....in conclusion u are a northerner of hausa-fulani origin except ur mum....

the only effect ur mum has on ur family which we know is dat she will try and control u people not to go too murderous extreme like a well known hausa fulani.

mpianya39:
Unity beggar

u dey mind these ones

Reelectbuhari:



they didn't start today

it started in 1967

It actually started in 1945.

dreamchaser90:



Many people were killed during the the countless riots in the north, it wasn't just Igbos. People were killed purely based on religion. My family lost everything and my sisters only barely escaped with their lives even though we are northerners although Christians. Just as we had Hausas that also lost their lives and properties.

Don't make the riots just about Igbos.

I hate lies and don't start with one......which northerners killed.....when we all know their target is igbos...

the only time I said northrners were killed is just of recent coz their leaders has refused to fulfil their promise....

pls I hate lies....
even my own family was product of una wicked lifestyle b4 we relocated from north......


Imagine two storey building razed and pulled down in broad day light.....what a wicked world and u here telling me northerners were also killed......rubbish

Reelectbuhari:


ur mum is igbo....quite accepted and ur dad from north( a serious issue).....in conclusion u are a northerner of hausa-fulani origin except ur mum....

the only effect ur mum has on ur family which we know is dat she will try and control u people not to go too murderous extreme like a well known hausa fulani.

Now let me educate you a little. Not everyone in the north is Hausa or Fulani. It's like me assuming that everyone in southern Nigeria is Igbo or Yoruba. How does that sound?

We have hundreds of tribes in northern Nigeria that are not Hausa and have there own unique culture and tradition. So no, I'm not Hausa or Fulani. But even if I was, then I'll still be proud of my heritage. Everyone should be proud of there origins.

And again, using the wprd 'murderous' for whole group of people is so, so wrong. I've met people from different tribes, cultures, religion, nationalities, races and one thing I've learned, is never to judge people by labels.

dreamchaser90:


Now let me educate you a little. Not everyone in the north is Hausa or Fulani. It's like me assuming that everyone in southern Nigeria is Igbo or Yoruba. How does that sound?

We have hundreds of tribes in northern Nigeria that are not Hausa and have there own unique culture and tradition. So no, I'm not Hausa or Fulani. But even if I was, then I'll still be proud of my heritage. Everyone should be proud of there origins.

And again, using the wprd 'murderous' for whole group of people is so, so wrong. I've met people from different tribes, cultures, religion, nationalities, races and one thing I've learned, is never to judge people by labels.

Are you a Middle Belt or Northerner person.?

Reelectbuhari:


I hate lies and don't start with one......which northerners killed.....when we all know their target is igbos...

the only time I said northrners were killed is just of recent coz their leaders has refused to fulfil their promise....

pls I hate lies....
even my own family was product of una wicked lifestyle b4 we relocated from north......


Imagine two storey building razed and pulled down in broad day light.....what a wicked world and u here telling me northerners were also killed......rubbish

You can believe whatever you want to believe, like I said earlier, I have parents from both north and east so I have no reason to lie against either Igbos or Hausas.

If you truly lived in the north, then you should know that there were casualties on both sides. And during these riots, it's never about tribe but about whether you're a Muslim or a Christian. That's why in places like Kaduna, you have Muslim dominated areas and Christian dominated areas.

I truly just wish that all these energy we put towards fighting tribal e-wars is channeled towards holding our leaders responsible. Because at the end there are only two tribes in Nigeria, the rich and the poor.

HiddenShadow:



Are you a Middle Belt or Northerner person.?

Southern Kaduna. If Nigeria breaks, we'll definitely go with middle belt.

But it's really not about Northerners or Southerners. The effect of bad governance is affecting everyone.

dreamchaser90:




And again, using the wprd 'murderous' for whole group of people is so, so wrong. I've met people from different tribes, cultures, religion, nationalities, races and one thing I've learned, is never to judge people by labels.

okay....never to judge people by their labels......quite cool but I took exception to northern nigerian..........naaaah......

dreamchaser90:


You can believe whatever you want to believe, like I said earlier, I have parents from both north and east so I have no reason to lie against either Igbos or Hausas.

If you truly lived in the north, then you should know that there were casualties on both sides. And during these riots, it's never about tribe but about whether you're a Muslim or a Christian. That's why in places like Kaduna, you have Muslim dominated areas and Christian dominated areas.

I truly just wish that all these energy we put towards fighting tribal e-wars is channeled towards holding our leaders responsible. Because at the end there are only two tribes in Nigeria, the rich and the poor.

and in kaduna who is been killed Christians I guess of which igbos is still part of them.....

the only simple truth is that northern Nigeria has spilled so much blood in this country......

forget our leaders who has long lost the script.....

focus on the fragile guys in the north used to always propagate this violence

dreamchaser90:


Southern Kaduna. If Nigeria breaks, we'll definitely go with middle belt.

But it's really not about Northerners or Southerners. The effect of bad governance is affecting everyone.

samething my course mate told me in school back then....and I watched a lecture video delivered by their elder in southern kaduna,,,,how the road leads to enugu....but was configured by Nigerian govt.....and a group from same SK attended a conference held in enugu....thats by the way.....not a topic

but the fact remains kaduna is kaduna....be it south or north....is under northern nigeria.....

Nigeria will break but not in middle belt line,,,,no

Reelectbuhari:



okay....never to judge people by their labels......quite cool but I took exception to northern nigerian..........naaaah......

You know, it's very sad that while we're battling to correct the bad impression of Nigerians outside(the moment you state that you are a Nigerian, you are immediately associated with fraud, drugs and prostitution) and racism in general, then you come back home and your follow Nigerian has these preconceived ideas about his fellow Nigerian. Sadly, most of the people that hold these views have never visited and lived in other parts of Nigeria or even tried interacting with people outside their region. I guess it's comforting to stay in your cocoon and believe whatever you want about others.

I guess we can only work towards making sure that the upcoming generation don't hold these same views, else we doomed as a nation.

Igbos must go.
We Arewa have give them quite notice.
they corrupt our yarinya

naijareferee:
The Igbo's don't like Hausa story was fabricated by the media and fueled by incessant riots in the north targeting Christians who incidentally are mostly Igbo's. The issue of hate is told by a third party to keep the relationship between Hausa and Igbo's in a bad shape. But we will be alright.

Every tribe has its share of good and bad...

There's nothing "fabricated" about the story. Igbos dislike Hausa/Fulanis. It's a fact. They might even have some friends from there, but their general prejudices against Hausa/Fulanis are clear. Hell, I pride myself on being "de-tribalized". I have absolutely nothing against Yorubas beyond some e-battle provocations, but I have my prejudices against those from the "core North". I don't care for a "Biafra" but I'd be delighted if this country could be split between the North and South (though I don't mind Middle Belt people either and would be more than happy to be in the same union with them). We are simply very different people and we will never live amicably with them.

alhassanyusuf29:
it's a lie,get ur facts right instead of spewing trash and embarrassing urself,hausa/fulani have been largely intertwined within Nigeria and its almost impossible to tell them apart

Fulanis have entwined themselves in Hausa culture to utilize Hausa numbers for political dominance. That doesn't mean it is "impossible" to tell them apart. I find it surprisingly easy to identify Fulanis from Hausas.

dreamchaser90:


True, there is.
And also true is the fact that I've not heard of any riot that was started by Igbos in all those places I've been.

But the main topic at the beginning was about how Igbos view Hausas and I stand by my earlier submission that we have tribal bias in both tribes. So we shouldn't just label and judge people by their tribe or religion but by their deeds.

I have never in my life heard of a northerner who has go out of his way to help or protect an igbo man. Prove me wrong

Obi1kenobi:


There's nothing "fabricated" about the story. Igbos dislike Hausa/Fulanis. It's a fact. They might even have some friends from there, but their general prejudices against Hausa/Fulanis are clear. Hell, I pride myself on being "de-tribalized". I have absolutely nothing against Yorubas beyond some e-battle provocations, but I have my prejudices against those from the "core North". I don't care for a "Biafra" but I'd be delighted if this country could be split between the North and South (though I don't mind Middle Belt people either and would be more than happy to be in the same union with them). We are simply very different people and we will never live amicably with them.

You want to live with the Yoruba's but you don't like the Hausa's. Bro... I believe you don't even know the difference between Hausa and Fulani. I guess you think middle belt is all about Benue and taraba. And you think these places are made of just non Hausa's. You are absolutely funny if you think for one reason that you can live with the Yoruba's but cant live with the Hausa's. If this country split into north and south as you suggested, immediately the Yoruba's will create another narrative between the south country in order to instigate hate amongst them and look like the impartial judge. Pls travel more and experience the different individuals before making a random statement.

ur a bloody lier! there has been intermarriage and breeding between both tribes for centuries now that even predates Nigeria,for a southerner to claim he can differentiate them apart where a core northern cant is pathetic to say the least..u can only tell them apart by guessing,but not base on facts on ground..how do u identify them if I may ask?

Obi1kenobi:


Fulanis have entwined themselves in Hausa culture to utilize Hausa numbers for political dominance. That doesn't mean it is "impossible" to tell them apart. I find it surprisingly easy to identify Fulanis from Hausas.

dreamchaser90:


You can believe whatever you want to believe, like I said earlier, I have parents from both north and east so I have no reason to lie against either Igbos or Hausas.

If you truly lived in the north, then you should know that there were casualties on both sides. And during these riots, it's never about tribe but about whether you're a Muslim or a Christian. That's why in places like Kaduna, you have Muslim dominated areas and Christian dominated areas.

I truly just wish that all these energy we put towards fighting tribal e-wars is channeled towards holding our leaders responsible. Because at the end there are only two tribes in Nigeria, the rich and the poor.

This is not true. Even a homogenous country like japan has poor ppl. The tribal and religious diff in nigeria is the reason we are almost not progressing. The bad leaders are a manifestation of tribe and religion. To grow we must divide along tribe and religion so dat govt can become inclusive. Nigeria is the 2nd country with the most diverse ethnic grouping after u.s....and the only country with almost equal moslems and xtians...how can we progress with such individuality

naijareferee:

You want to live with the Yoruba's but you don't like the Hausa's. Bro... I believe you don't even know the difference between Hausa and Fulani. I guess you think middle belt is all about Benue and taraba. And you think these places are made of just non Hausa's. You are absolutely funny if you think for one reason that you can live with the Yoruba's but cant live with the Hausa's. If this country split into north and south as you suggested, immediately the Yoruba's will create another narrative between the south country in order to instigate hate amongst them and look like the impartial judge. Pls travel more and experience the different individuals before making a random statement.

Erm.....yes. Yorubas are educated, learned people. They're industrious and productive and pioneer most fields in Nigeria historically. They are tolerant of all religions - including even their traditional religions. They're artistic. They're not prone to mindless violence. They produce most of Nigeria's civil activists. It's the land of Soyinka and Fela and Gani Fawehinmi and Victor Banjo etc. Igbos have lived freely with them for ages with no drama, regardless of the tribal stewpidity on Nairaland.

Middle Belt people are very different from core Northerners: whether Kwara or Kogi or Benue or Plateau or even Nassarawa. My biggest problem with people from the core North is their intolerance and this is why extremism thrives in their midst: whether Boko Haram or Fulani Herdsmen. It's a fertile place to recruit people who thrive on mindless violence. They brought it on themselves with their illiberal, intolerant proclivities. They brought Sharia law to Nigeria, running a parallel constitution that allowed them to harass and prosecute people who violated no Nigerian law, whether they're smashing the goods of alcohol sellers or sentencing adulterers or whatever. They are the ones who severally riot and mass murder people for nonsense like some Danish journalists drawing an offensive cartoon of Mohammed, or Nigeria trying to host Miss World, or a Yoruba teacher murdered by her own Secondary School Students for allegedly desecrating the Koran: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6477177.stm

You can choose to be in denial all you want, but those people have a serious problem with intolerance. And yes, Igbos do dislike Northerners. I'm not saying prejudice is a good thing, but it's a fact that Igbos generally dislike Northerners.

alhassanyusuf29:
ur a bloody lier! there has been intermarriage and breeding between both tribes for centuries now that even predates Nigeria,for a southerner to claim he can differentiate them apart where a core northern cant is pathetic to say the least..u can only tell them apart by guessing,but not base on facts on ground..how do u identify them if I may ask?

Who said otherwise before that they've been intermarrying? What do you think I meant by saying Fulanis have entwined themselves among Hausas? I can differentiate them. The overwhelming majority of the Northern elite are Fulani. I can identify them starting from their looks. Hausas are a Nilotic group and you can identify them separately from Fulanis who look more like their Sahelian neighbours in Guinea, Senegal, Mali etc.

As an Igbo man, I don't see anything I have in common with the average Northerner. We don't eat the same food, we dont have the same traditions or value system. All we have is that Lugard brought us together.

Never have I seen or heard that an Igbo man anywhere in the world professed his "undying love" for Northerners. How can you love something or someone you can't relate with?

Then there is the long history of Northerners massacaring Igbos in Nigeria.

There is no special relationship between Igbos and Northerners, all we do is manage things from one massacre to the next and from one quit notice to the other

Obi1kenobi:


Erm.....yes. Yorubas are educated, learned people. They're industrious and productive and pioneer most fields in Nigeria historically. They are tolerant of all religions - including even their traditional religions. They're artistic. They're not prone to mindless violence. They produce most of Nigeria's civil activists. It's the land of Soyinka and Fela and Gani Fawehinmi and Victor Banjo etc. Igbos have lived freely with them for ages with no drama, regardless of the tribal stewpidity on Nairaland.

Middle Belt people are very different from core Northerners: whether Kwara or Kogi or Benue or Plateau or even Nassarawa. My biggest problem with people from the core North is their intolerance and this is why extremism thrives in their midst: whether Boko Haram or Fulani Herdsmen. It's a fertile place to recruit people who thrive on mindless violence. They brought it on themselves with their illiberal, intolerant proclivities. They brought Sharia law to Nigeria, running a parallel constitution that allowed them to harass and prosecute people who violated no Nigerian law, whether they're smashing the goods of alcohol sellers or sentencing adulterers or whatever. They are the ones who severally riot and mass murder people for nonsense like some Danish journalists drawing an offensive cartoon of Mohammed, or Nigeria trying to host Miss World, or a Yoruba teacher murdered by her own Secondary School Students for allegedly desecrating the Koran: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6477177.stm

You can choose to be in denial all you want, but those people have a serious problem with intolerance. And yes, Igbos do dislike Northerners. I'm not saying prejudice is a good thing, but it's a fact that Igbos generally dislike Northerners.

I see your points. But that word hate is too strong for me. I better use tolerate other than hate.

Pharaoh9:
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IGBOS HATE FULANIS AND THEIR LOYALISTS

True Igbos, and I am one do NOT hate anybody, we only hate and abhor Injustice of any kind. We believe all men are equal and have little tolerance for injustice and those who chose to trample on their fellow beings. This is the truth, accept it or not.

Igbos LOVE ♥️Hausas

I ♥️ northerners

I am Igbo & I ♥️ Abokis

I am Igbo & I ♥️ northern Muslims