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| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by FBLJ(m): 8:53pm On May 16, 2018 |
I appreciate the effort you have made to pass the vital information, but let me make some corrections. 1. Carbon monoxide is CO no CO2 these are different oxides of Carbon. CO2 dont support combustion 2. You cannot smell CO the fact you suggested a CO detector is enough. by the time you wait to smell CO you probably would have been dead. Yes, that is how toxic the gas can be, the worse is you dont know you are exposed until it is too late. But common signs that CO is present are. headache, confusion and restlessness. 3. I really do not know the source of CO in a gas cylinder, gas Cylinders often contain natural gas like butane and propane. combustion of this cooking gas mentioned commonly called LPG produces CO2 however, incomplete combustion lead to production of CO. once again nice info Opinionated: |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by xreal: 8:53pm On May 16, 2018 |
PinkStarsFallIn:Outdoor is the safest, however, if you must keep it indoor, make sure the place is well ventilated, open all windows at all times. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 8:56pm On May 16, 2018 |
xreal:Gas is odourless but a chemical agent is added that gives of the familiar smell of gas we all know. It is a safety feature to warn people of a leak and avoid a potential build up of explosive gas. CO2 is is carbon dioxide. CO is carbon monoxide. While they are both technically gases when people say gas they normally refer to Methane or LPG. CO is also odourless but can kill in high concentration or make you very sick. CO2 is not poisonous like CO but in extremely high quantities especially in confined spaces it will displace oxygen. Thereby reducing air quality. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by sonofthunder: 8:59pm On May 16, 2018 |
Opinionated:I thought Carbon monoxide was CO and not CO2. please confirm and edit the op. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:02pm On May 16, 2018 |
sokera:Technically speaking it makes no difference and sunlight is a negligible factor. However as a safety precaution in case of a leak or explosion a cylinder may be left outside. In Europe most gas supply is actually piped into the house like your water very few people use cylinders except in rural parts. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:04pm On May 16, 2018 |
sonofthunder:You're correct. One has an atom(mono) of oxygen the other has two atoms(dio)of oxygen. CO2 can become CO due to incomplete combustion. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:06pm On May 16, 2018 |
Thanks for this piece. I hope all the OPs who are fond of posting olosho stories on NL would take a leaf from this. Quite enlightening. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:08pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:Cooking gas is one of the cleanest fossil fuels available to us, combustion is almost perfect, it's doesn't emit substantial amounts of carbon monoxide or any other dangerous by-products for that matter, have you ever heard that someone choked from having a gas cooker in their kitchen? Please read that post again... |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by sunnedee2: 9:08pm On May 16, 2018 |
Opinionated:Bros, you can't smell CO. Its colourless, odorless and tasteless. What you smell in your cooking gas is not CO Would have explained better but have no time for this right now. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:12pm On May 16, 2018 |
I'll like to add to the OPs post about Carbon Monoxide by saying that there are other sources of the killer gas besides your cooker. Anything that burns a hydrocarbon fuel source can emit CO. This includes your power generator or even the exhaust pipe in your car or motor cycle. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:17pm On May 16, 2018 |
SnowJay92:Easy friend, let me a "gas engineer" enlighten you on the subject. Gas does not give off Carbon Monoxide on its own. Carbon monoxide may be emitted when gas is "burning". That is when it can be dangerous. It is not the gas that is the danger but the chemical reactions that the gas is exposed to. The burning of gas is called combustion. If that combustion is impaired then CO can be produced. Hope it's clearer now. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by ajisebioyo1(m): 9:20pm On May 16, 2018 |
nice information... point of correction, what you perceive inside a leaked gas is a compound of sulphur called Ethyl Mercaptan, it smells like a rotten cabbage. it is niether carbon dioxide nor carbon monoxide |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:23pm On May 16, 2018 |
rentAcock:Am in my humour mood..so I will ignore your mannerless and uncivil personality..if I had corrected that it was just a mere joke.. next time you might not be so lucky. Peace |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by rentAcock(m): 9:24pm On May 16, 2018 |
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| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:27pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:My friend someone above has pointed out all the corrections I wanted op to make, a properly functional gas cooker does not produce more than trace amounts of carbon monoxide, that's why people don't die from using their gas cooker while in the kitchen for as long as they want, risks in using gas to cook doesn't include carbon monoxide poisoning, you can talk about risks of fire and explosions. And please don't go and be telling people that exposure to sunlight don't matter when storing their gas cylinder, do you know why gas stations have deluge systems for quench-cooling their tanks on hot days? |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:41pm On May 16, 2018 |
SnowJay92:It's alright that you don't understand the subject but let me let me try to explain another way. The production of Carbon Monoxide can happen even if your gas cooker is in perfect condition. For gas to burn it requires heat and oxygen. If your cooker is fine but oxygen supply levels are suboptimal CO can still be produced. You are right however on the matter of CO "levels". It can be negligible provided your kitchen is spacious and well ventilated. You are very wrong however on CO poisoning from cookers. There are different levels of CO poisoning which essentially means saturation of your haemoglobin. From 0%-10% you exhibit no symptoms (does not mean your good). Levels above 70% lead to respiratory failure and possible death. Although this quantities are almost impossible to reach in the kitchen. So in addition to fire and explosions CO poisoning is right up there but with near non noticeable effects. I'm happy to further clarify if you need as it's good for you and others to learn about these things. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by alezzy13: 9:48pm On May 16, 2018 |
SnowJay92:I was about to agree with this till I decided to do some reading and yes, I was rather suprised that burning gas in an enclosed place can produce subtantial CO. From CDC website: Never use a gas range or oven for heating. Using a gas range or oven for heating can cause a build up of CO inside your home, cabin, or camper.https://www.cdc.gov/co/faqs.htm |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 9:49pm On May 16, 2018 |
For people interested in the subject and gas in general I've dusted off one of my old text books in gas . It's just a page but gives you a snap shot of combustion and how CO carbon monoxide can be created. Feel free to read it. Enjoy.
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| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:52pm On May 16, 2018 |
TLisieux:we know say you know but CO2 is now carbon monoxide, while CO4 is carbon dioxide According to the new law of IUPAC nomenclature |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 9:55pm On May 16, 2018*. Modified: 10:28pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:What makes you think I don't understand this subject as much as you do? Do you know which "Engineer" I am? |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by leonprince: 9:56pm On May 16, 2018 |
Op carbon monoxide is CO and you get that from incomplete combustion, CO2 is carbon dioxide it is not flammable Infact it is what comes out in fire extinguisher to envelop combustion by displacing Oxygen. Get you facts right! |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 10:00pm On May 16, 2018 |
SnowJay92:I'm enjoying the banter my friend but you're either lying or in the very early stages in your studies to become an engineer. Any engineer can tell in 30 seconds if someone knows the subject or not. You've made statements that show you don't but I'm not trying to insult you though just using the platform to educate others that may be interested in the subject. Cheers. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by alezzy13: 10:02pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:I can't count the number if times I cooked with coking gas in poorly ventilated area while in school, but not sure i can ever recall having any of the so called symptoms of CO poisoning. . . . However the point is taken, and the CDC website confirms it. Cooking gas, and indeed all combustible materials can produce CO. Before now i used to think it was just vehicles. . .but we learn everyday. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by pooozeee(m): 10:04pm On May 16, 2018 |
[/color] Opinionated:[color=#000099] Opinionated: Opinionated:Mr man please go and correct your self and stop misleading people, always ensure you get your fact right before you post here CO is carbon monoxide while Co2 is carbon dioxide |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by alezzy13: 10:05pm On May 16, 2018 |
vikkimimi:Wrong. It's carbon (IV) oxide but still written as CO2. CO4 does not exist as far as I know. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 10:11pm On May 16, 2018*. Modified: 10:35pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:Here can be a very wonderful platform, to learn and unlearn is also a very wonderful ability to have, I am what I claim to be, no single misrepresentation, but then we don't argue spuriously, when you talk about CO poisoning, talk about the trace poisoning if that's what you intend, also tell people conditions under which that occurs, viz extremely poor ventilated and oxygen deficient environment and all... |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 10:17pm On May 16, 2018 |
alezzy13:Thank God you made it certain is as far as you know learn to know more and expand your horizons |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 10:18pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:According to your book, as little as 0.01-0.03% concentration of carbon monoxide in air will give you headache and flushed feel, have you experienced those symptoms while cooking in your kitchen? The conditions under which incomplete combustion will occur will cooking with your gas cylinder is not something that happens in an environment where you can breathe properly, however I get your point now, fact is it does occur under a particular set of conditions. So yes I agree with you, it's good people know that it can happen in the first place, if the conditions exist. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 10:21pm On May 16, 2018 |
alezzy13:Emphasis on poorly ventilated, a sealed cabin or something, but actually it's good people know that such a thing can actually happen in the first place. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Nobody: 10:23pm On May 16, 2018 |
Krucifax:The reason why using cooking gas is preferable to other sources of heat is because it undergoes complete combustion thus no carbon monoxide issues which causes soot and blackening of cooking utensils. Should carbon monoxide be present when using gas, then it's in minute quantity and negligible. The post is out of place and scientifically faulty in details please. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by Krucifax(m): 10:32pm On May 16, 2018 |
sane93:Oh dear...im tempted to ignore this as you've clearly not read or understood my comments. But in the spirit of learning i'll say.Go back and read my earlier comments on the matter it'll help you grasp "a bit" of the matter. Complete combustion has NOTHING to do with the type of gas but HOW the gas is burnt. Before you go I have a small home work assignment for you. Go and read up on the meaning of the following (A) Complete combustion (B) Incomplete combustion. Also read up on their causes in the context of natural gas CH4 and LPG to help focus your enquiry. Try not to comment for the sake of commenting my dear. |
| Re: Gas Safety Tips Everyone Should Know by alezzy13: 10:36pm On May 16, 2018 |
vikkimimi:You were wrong, simple. Take correction and move on Cheers |
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