obaaderemi:
Is that what you call high standard? I won't give you anything from Lagos yet. Below is Christ The King College, Onitsha. It's far from Lagos. Mind you it's a public school.

You're talking of college while he was talking about public/national secondary schools in Kenya that are of high standards achieving excellent academic records for the past 4 decades

Meanwhile,these are Alliance girls and alliance boys respectively

Then st Mary's school yala and starehe boys centre.

Nowenuse:


You see your problem.
I showed you colonial records of colonial masters identifying Igbos as naturally light skinned people, yet it seems like that was not a good enough fact for your biased mind.


Your ignorant mind also misses out the fact that Nigerians have been intermixing with each other for centuries.
For instance, I noticed that all the tribes who are neighbors to the Igbos like Ibibios, Idomas, Igalas, Edos, Eastern Ijaws also have a large number of naturally light skinned people.

Likewise in the north almost all the tribes have mixed with fulanis somehow. Me speaking to you, I have Hausa-fulani relatives. I have Shuwa arab relatives.

Original hausas are actually dark skinned, but their extreme mixture with fulanis made many of them light skinned.
Original Kanuris are extremely dark skinned, but extreme mixture with Shuwa arabs made many of them light skinned.

So shut it if you don't know about Nigeria's history.


You are talking about using Ghana as a yardstick to identify Nigerians' complexion.
Do you know that Ghana and Ivory coast are dominated by the same Akan ethnic stock? Yet Ghanains are still darker than Ivorians on average. Why is this so?

Simple, cos most Akans from Ivory coast heavily intermarried lighter skinned northern west africans like the fulanis, touaregs etc.

Check this nairaland threads of Ivorian and Ghanaian women and compare the difference for yourself and educate yourself about west africans!

https://www.nairaland.com/843320/beauty-ivory-coast-women-most

https://www.nairaland.com/1042951/beauty-ghanaian-women

its an excuse for their black skin and they now think any fair Nigerian uses bleaching cream

One think that baffles me is that why must everything about kenya be situated in Nairobi CBD and Maybe mombasa

Pictures again. Like you seriously want to bore us to death with all boxes of house - I mean even LEGO cities that kids build with blocks look way more imaginative! Your architects need to go back to schools - I suggest they should come to kenya for real architectural educations.

Nowenuse:


Stop fooling yourself. The majority of Nigerians including myself know that our cities are not as standard as they should be, but it does not stop them from being cities.
Our cities were better planned during the regional govts and when the states were larger. That was why the first sky scrapper in Africa was built in Ibadan, Nigeria. The first radio station in Africa too.
The military rule and proliferation of states came to destroy everything. Since the return to democracy most governors have started trying to rebuild their cities.

You have not been in this thread long enough when we were comparing Kenyan & Nigerian cities with each other. Lagos vs Nairobi, Abuja & PH vs Mombasa.

I challenged a Kenyan here for us to go on a picture posting competition of High middleClass, Average middleClass, low middleClass and low income suburbs in Kenya vs Nigeria. I gave him a terrible beating and he ran away for weeks. I can refer you to those pages if you want.

Apart from the extremely beautiful estates in Kenya where only the rich live, TayserMahiri could not show me pictures of average, low middleclass and low income suburbs in Nairobi.

Kenyans call our cities slums, no problem, let us compare pictures of suburbs in Kenya & Nigeria.

India also has terrible erratic power supply and terrible roads and a large percentage of their population rely on generators, yet, that does not stop 25% of India's population (300 million people) from being middleClass.

MiddleClass is judged based on the mean income and not the amenities provided to you by your government.

Our govt may not provide steady power or water for us, but they do not tax us of these things and we provide for ourselves. Your own govt may provide for you and tax you as well.
So pls your analogy makes no sense!

Nowenuse:


I know you don't care about our skintones but stop making stupid comments you know nothing about.

Tanzanians are on average lighter than Kenyans, South Africans than Zimbabweans and Kenyans than South Sudanese but that will never make me say that Tanzanians or South Africans are bleaching more than Kenyans because I know their histories!

Learn more before you open your mouth to vomit thrash that you cannot defend. Thanks

Educate the Kibera slum dwellers.

samsobo24:
One think that baffles me is that why must everything about kenya be situated in Nairobi CBD and Maybe mombasa

They have no other city apart from Nairobi with more than 50% slums.

What is wrong with our black skins. Certainly we are not rushing to bleach it. There is nothing wrong with black skins - there is of course something wrong with your self-esteem.

samsobo24:
its an excuse for their black skin and they now think any fair Nigerian uses bleaching cream

We didn't make the claim that Nigeria led the world by far in bleaching their skin. Aljazeer report 77% - more than 20% higher than next country Togo -

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Educate the Kibera slum dwellers.

Sorry we have 5 cities - Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu,Nakuru and Eldoret. We also have more 30 towns that can easily be described in Naija low standards as cities. And we have many small towns that actually can be called towns.

NigeriaIsDoomed:

They have no other city apart from Nairobi with more than 50% slums.

Like what exactly again?

samsobo24:
One think that baffles me is that why must everything about kenya be situated in Nairobi CBD and Maybe mombasa

rvp20182:
Sorry we have 5 cities - Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu,Nakuru and Eldoret. We also have more 30 towns that can easily be described in Naija low standards as cities. And we have many small towns that actually can be called towns.

Those slums are no cities hence you are so ashamed to talk about them the way you worship Nairobi, one of the cities playing host to the biggest slum in the world.
Nairobi can only be compared with one of the cities inside Lagos.
Do you know that many cities make up Lagos megacity unlike the slums that make up Nairobi?

All nigeria cities are slums - you fail the most basic criteria - lack of piped water, electricity, sewage and roads.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Those slums are no cities hence you are so ashamed to talk about them the way you worship Nairobi, one of the cities playing host to the biggest slum in the world.
Nairobi can only be compared with one of the cities inside Lagos.
Do you know that many cities make up Lagos megacity unlike the slums that make up Nairobi?

UN-Habitat[which is HQed in Nairobi] defines a slum household as a group of individuals living under the same roof in an urban area who lack one or more of the following:
Durable housing of a permanent nature that protects against extreme climate conditions.
Sufficient living space which means not more than three people sharing the same room.
Easy access to safe water in sufficient amounts at an affordable price.
Access to adequate sanitation in the form of a private or public toilet shared by a reasonable number of people.
Security of tenure that prevents forced evictions.

Wikipedia
A slum is a highly populated urban residential area consisting mostly of closely packed, decrepit housing units in a situation of deteriorated or incomplete infrastructure, inhabited primarily by impoverished persons.[1] While slums differ in size and other characteristics, most lack reliable sanitation services, supply of clean water, reliable electricity, law enforcement and other basic services. Slum residences vary from shanty houses to professionally built dwellings which, because of poor-quality construction or provision of basic maintenance, have deteriorated.[2]

obaaderemi:
Is that what you call high standard? I won't give you anything from Lagos yet. Below is Christ The King College, Onitsha. It's far from Lagos. Mind you it's a public school.

No mind those people. Below are pix from public schools in Osun state that look better than most Kenyan universities. Na only mouth dem get.

rvp20182:
What is wrong with our black skins. Certainly we are not rushing to bleach it. There is nothing wrong with black skins - there is of course something wrong with your self-esteem.

you feel intimidated by the black skin, that's why you rant about the IBO's using enhancement creams because most IBO's are light skinned

I just laugh when Kenyans compare Nairobi with Lagos.its a funny comparison.

Lagos that has almost everywhere urban, that's why Lagos remains the largest city in Africa

samsobo24:
you feel intimidated by the black skin, that's why you rant about the IBO's using enhancement creams because most IBO's are light skinned

Not just lgbo's , even Edo's from the Esan tribe are light skinned, it cuts across Benin and many urhobo's, ltsekiris, lsoko, etc. intermarriage is also high amongst the various tribes, so it is not uncommon to find so many light skinned people from these tribes.

@obaadremi: Here's more from Osun (Ilesha to be precise). Na Public schools o, not even top-notch private schools like Olashore wey dey the same Osun state o.

That is Nigeria contemporary design in 21st century What is wrong with you architects. Here is new high school built by M-pesa foundation

samsobo24:
One think that baffles me is that why must everything about kenya be situated in Nairobi CBD and Maybe mombasa

There are also other functioning and productive urban areas in Kenya with their features;

1.Nakuru
Tourism site(presence of lake nakuru national
park and menengai crater,lots of natural
hotspring like lake bogoria)

Educational centre(presence of many primary
and secondary schools,universities,colleges
And polytechnics I.e egerton,kabarak
universities)

Administrative centre this being supported by
Devolution,it's ruled by governor, senators,
women reps and MCA's,Nakuru is the capital
of Nakuru county just like saying Lagos is the
capital of Lagos state.

Industrial centre(presence of bread baking
Industry,mattresses industry just to mention
but a few)

Transport and communication centre
centre(presence of dualled roads and ongoing
projects of expanding major roads to be a four
lane superhighway and also bypasses.
Presence of both local and national media
stations.the likes of inooro tv,ktn tv etc

2.Thika

Major industrial centre than all urban areas in
Kenya including Nairobi,presence of major
industrial firms like Delmonte,bidco,
Cotton industry,automobile and so on.
Most of the industrial firms in Nairobi
Are being relocated to Thika because of
its favourable business environment and low
Population.

Educational centre,presence of many primary
And secondary schools,colleges and
universities I.e gretsa,mount Kenya
universities.

Tourism site,presence of fourteen falls
And chania falls.

Transport and communication centre
Presence of thika superhighway which
Connects both thika and Nairobi.

Administrative centre,its,headed by municipal
Government since its an urban area in
Kiambu county headed by a
governor,senators.

3.Kisumu city

Administrative centre,its Kenya's third largest
City headed by governor, senator.its the capital
Of kisumu county.
Its also a lake city in western part of Kenya.

Educational centre,presence of many primary
And secondary schools, universities and
Colleges I.e maseno university,great lakes
University,kisii university branch etc.

Tourism site,presence of kisumu museum,
Lake Victoria park and impala park.

Transport and communication centre,
Presence of bypasses,international airport
And superhighways.

Industrial centre,presence of fish processing
Industry,automobile industry and among
Others.

These are the among many urban areas in Kenya that I've listed with their features,there are still other many with atleast similar functions I.e malindi,kisii,kericho,narok,kakamega,busia,machakos,voi,lamu,kilifi,bungoma etc.

So Nairobi is the seat,administrative and capital of government that's why almost everything is being done there unlike other urban areas in Kenya.
And mark you,not every Kenyan university is stirred within Nairobi,even some towns like garissa in the northern arid part of Kenya has educational centres too and many of them,I.e garissa university.

@obaaderemi: Now compare those to Lukenya University below. . Imagine a whole uni that cannot afford proper landscaping.

This is how Kenyan architect design schools in 21st Century - Nigeria with all the petro-dollars and doggy universities cannot produce anything beyond rectangular box.

rvp20182:
That is Nigeria contemporary design in 21st century What is wrong with you architects. Here is new high school built by M-pesa foundation

You can't compare your designs to that of Nigeria, even your fellow Kenyans were enthralled by the building designs they saw in nollywood movies. lf you want to check out designs and architecture, look out for the posts of Arinze, they abound on this thread. We've been through all this before, stop taking us back.

How PLEASE. Stop smoking illegal stuff. I haven't see anything remotely worth copy from you guys. SOUTH AFRICA - absolutely yes. Our architect are kicking arse. All you do is rectangular boxes - and when you become imaginative - you throw in roman or greek columns of 500 yrs ago. Honestly speaking I have been to many countries in Africa - and I am yet to see designs as BAD and HORRIBLE as Nigerian. Their best in nollywood are concrete monstrosity with huge greek columns and rectangular design with little thinking into it.

Daejoyoung:

You can't compare your designs to that of Nigeria, even your fellow Kenyans were enthralled by the building designs they saw in nollywood movies. lf you want to check out designs and architecture, look out for the posts of Arinze, they abound on this thread. We've been through all this before, stop taking us back.

@obaaderemi: Now compare Lukenya University to Ilesha grammer school below. Their uni no even fit compete with government grammer school for Osun o.

First & Second pictures are of Ilesha Grammer school, third picture is from Lukenya University, Kenya.

254tobby:


You're talking of college while he was talking about public/national secondary schools in Kenya that are of high standards achieving excellent academic records for the past 4 decades

Meanwhile,these are Alliance girls and alliance boys respectively

Then st Mary's school yala and starehe boys centre.

Because you saw college in the name doesn't mean it's an actual college, it's still a public high school. Many Nigerian public high schools just have college in their names e.g Federal Government College, Warri.

Lego city - blocks of squares and rectangles - a concrete monstrosity that doesn't inspire creative thinking. You can have all the petro-dollars but without good architects and contractors - you'll produce such HUGE ugly ugly buildings. That Daystar building has got a lot of thinking gone into it - green spaces - and free air ventilation - make learning fun. You can imagine learning in that huge rectangle box without trees and no electricity.

FlyoruB:
@obaaderemi: Now compare Lukenya University to Ilesha grammer school below. Their uni no even fit compete with government crammer school for Osun o.

First & Second pictures are of Ilesha Grammer school, third picture is from Lukenya University, Kenya.

FlyoruB:
@obaaderemi: Now compare those to Lukenya University below. . Imagine a whole uni that cannot afford proper landscaping.

Hahahahahaha, Osun primary public primary schools beat Kenya's universities. I told the idiot I won't post Lagos schools. Osun state is enough for them.

obaaderemi:
Hahahahahaha, Osun primary public primary schools beat Kenya's universities. I told the idiot I won't post Lagos schools. Osun state is enough for them.

And yet Osun is not even amongst the richest states in Nigeria, yet Kenyan Universities can't match some of the public schools there.

rvp20182:
All nigeria cities are slums - you fail the most basic criteria - lack of piped water, electricity, sewage and roads.

You are still crying? sorry o.....The truth hurts!

The following are some of our major cities:

Abuja-- The administrative seat of government

Lagos-- Mega city, and the commercial hub of Africa

Kano-- The commercial nerve centre of Northen Nigeria

Port-harcourt--Nigeria oil and gas giant

Calabar--The tourism capital of Nigeria

Onitsha--Another economic hub for commerce, industry and education

Aba--The japan of Africa

Kaduna

Ibadan

Etc

rvp20182:
How PLEASE. Stop smoking illegal stuff. I haven't see anything remotely worth copy from you guys. SOUTH AFRICA - absolutely yes. Our architect are kicking arse. All you do is rectangular boxes - and when you become imaginative - you throw in roman or greek columns of 500 yrs ago. Honestly speaking I have been to many countries in Africa - and I am yet to see designs as BAD and HORRIBLE as Nigerian. Their best in nollywood are concrete monstrosity with huge greek columns and rectangular design with little thinking into it.

You are crying already. You brought school pictures we beat you, you brought Cellulant,we exposed it as a Nigerian influenced creation. You must be crying silently in your toilet by now. Just take it easy with those around you and don't vent your anger on them.

You cannot beat Kenya with the most unimaginative rectangular box. The only way we can determine who wins or lose is to get other Africans to objectively judge for themselves. Otherwise I don't know how you come and post a huge rectangular box - that any fool can draw on a piece of paper - and call it a win. You guys have petro-dollars and nothing else - zero creativity.

I mean everything is wrong with huge rectangular monstrosity of building passing for a school - it's not conducive for learning - you can imagine the noise, the heat, and commotion in there.

Without doubt you architects really need to go back to school and study architecture. I mean rectangle boxes in 21st century. Egyptian were doing triangular pyramids about 5000 yrs ago!

obaaderemi:
You are crying already. You brought school pictures we beat you, you brought Cellulant,we exposed it as a Nigerian influenced creation. You must be crying silently in your toilet by now. Just take it easy with those around you and don't vent your anger on them.