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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by phase1: 10:18pm On May 26, 2018
MrBigiman:
The biggest shame in Nigeria is poor political will, if we had reasonable leaders, Johesu leaders should be in jail now. Sadly, they persecute a visionary like NK, but pat medical terrorists like Biobelemoye on the back. Biobelemoye has caused the murder of over a thousand well meaning Nigerians and should rot in jail for the rest of his life.


Before you can touch any Johesu member, many greedy resident physicians will be members of kirikiri and Kuje. Physicians introduced strike into the health sector and have killed many patients starting from the military regime.

Your current minister of health also took part in the butchery as a leader of resident physicians. In saner climes it would have been scandalous to even consider him a nominee for a ministerial post.
You can't keep your right to strike but will not be allowed to deny others same.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 10:21pm On May 26, 2018
AlphaT1:

There are quacks everywhere and in every profession. The case of mistaken identity due to patient's ignorance can happen but does not affect patient care. Again the public health setting is designed in such a way that a pharmacist cannot do the work of a doctor and the nurse cannot do the work of a doctor whether you call them doctor or not pls leave sentiment aside. I have discussed this erroneous assumption with my colleagues (medics) including our able boss who is a consultant (family medicine) and they have all kept sentiment aside to agree with the real facts. There is a kind of strange medical practice in Nigeria that d doctor assumes he knows everything and he is above error, the consultants also oppress the juniors doctors even when he is wrong you dare not point it out to him (he is all knowing)..it's all about ego ....this training is not good for medical practice and by extension, patient care ...ask any of your colleagues who are practicing abroad to gist you more about the practice over there...
you are obviously not living in nigeria, you are ignoring the elephant in the room that other healthcare workers are pretending to be doctors and patients are still dying. So yes, it is affecting patient care. You do not argue objectively at all. i am done. Good day
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by AlphaT1(m): 10:32pm On May 26, 2018
[quote author=funmisticqueen post=67912373]you are obviously not living in nigeria, you are ignoring the elephant in the room that other healthcare workers are pretending to be doctors and patients are still dying. So yes, it is affecting patient care. You do not argue objectively at all. i am done. Good day[/quote
Pls don't quote me again, you sure can't communicate effectively without insulting people. you are a female and yet so quick to insult, it's very bad....work on ur attitude as you relate with others.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Ugomba(m): 10:36pm On May 26, 2018
danilmo:


that was the bloody pharm D dispenser I gave 5 preclinical cases last week in one other thread, if the guy will answer 1, that will b tomorrow...

I mean common anatomy questions I and my colleague normally use to ginger our self after class

he told me to DM him , I did, we only greeted,
after the greeting I kept on waiting for answer..

he was lucky sha coz I planned to upload his mumu answer online
grin
he say him na pharm D grin. = Medical doctor without surgery
cheesy
What!
Pharmacist = a doctor minus surgery!
How exactly
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by danilmo: 10:45pm On May 26, 2018
Ugomba:
What! Pharmacist = a doctor minus surgery! How exactly
I tire for the bloody pharmD dispenser o.. grin
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Ugomba(m): 10:48pm On May 26, 2018
danilmo:


I tire for the bloody pharmD dispenser o.. grin
Am in the legal profession.
Am interested in medical law.
Apart from doctors, can you list for me by percentage the contribution of other health professionals in the management of a patient!
Sorry for the inconveniences
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by danilmo: 10:55pm On May 26, 2018
Ugomba:

Am in the legal profession.
Am interested in medical law.
Apart from doctors, can you list for me by percentage the contribution of other health professionals in the management of a patient!
Sorry for the inconveniences



oh, lemme call on my boss to help out( still a student)
lemme call on some elders..

wesleypepper

funmisticqueen

lagusta


MrBigiman
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 11:42pm On May 26, 2018
olutop:

Stop saying wat you dnt know, I am a physiotherapist work in UBTH, my superiors that have used 10years is not receiving wat a fresh doctor is receiving....10years afta service o
jst to breach it and make the dff to be 34% frm 64% dff u guys no gree.....u guys are jst greedy
please what is d basic salary a new post nysc physiotherapist earn.cos I know the salary difference then between and intern pharmacist and an intern Doctor wasn't much.I think 40k or so.one earning 120+ n d other 160k plus.please sincerely tel me what a new post nysc guy get as a start.please break it down to basic salary and d allowances.thanks.I really wanna know the truth.please also explain the 34 and 64% u mentioned. Thanks
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by WesleyPepper: 12:06am On May 27, 2018
danilmo:


that was the bloody pharm D dispenser I gave 5 preclinical cases last week in one other thread, if the guy will answer 1, that will b tomorrow...

I mean common anatomy questions I and my colleague normally use to ginger our self after class

he told me to DM him , I did, we only greeted,
after the greeting I kept on waiting for answer..

he was lucky sha coz I planned to upload his mumu answer online
grin
he say him na pharm D grin. = Medical doctor without surgery
cheesy
grin grin
That dude is a charlatan.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by olutop(m): 12:24am On May 27, 2018
ozo13:
please what is d basic salary a new post nysc physiotherapist earn.cos I know the salary difference then between and intern pharmacist and an intern Doctor wasn't much.I think 40k or so.one earning 120+ n d other 160k plus.please sincerely tel me what a new post nysc guy get as a start.please break it down to basic salary and d allowances.thanks.I really wanna know the truth.please also explain the 34 and 64% u mentioned. Thanks
You are correct for the pay during internship and housejob, lemme now breakdown the salary scale at the point of entry post NYSC for you, A physiotherapist earn 151000(25000 is the call allowance) a fresh doctor start with 249000(I knt say specifically wat d call allowance is) but all oda allowances are equal such as hazard and teaching as d case may be, d dff in dt salary scale is 64%, wat johesu want is 20% increament so awa salary can be 191000 wc is still 32% lesser dn a doctors own, and they keep shouting we want equal pay...
Now base on the present salary scale for a physiotherapist, pharmacist or lzab scientist to earn dt 249000 of a fresh doctor you mst use atleast 10years in civil service, all wat johesu want is jst 20% of salary across CONHESS salary scale dtz all and NMA kip shouting equality. The issue of skipping is still there for doctors to enjoy and no Phyio, pharmacist is allow to reach the post of a Director in there own field till dey retire wat we get to is Deputy or Assistant Director.
Another issue is d issue of professional autonomy and specialty, I will leave dz 4 now....
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 6:06am On May 27, 2018
[quote author=AlphaT1 post=67912668][/quote]since when did i insult you, pls point out the part where i insulted you. if you can't, then you obviously cant handle facts.
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 6:07am On May 27, 2018
olutop:

You are correct for the pay during internship and housejob, lemme now breakdown the salary scale at the point of entry post NYSC for you, A physiotherapist earn 151000(25000 is the call allowance) a fresh doctor start with 249000(I knt say specifically wat d call allowance is) but all oda allowances are equal such as hazard and teaching as d case may be, d dff in dt salary scale is 64%, wat johesu want is 20% increament so awa salary can be 191000 wc is still 32% lesser dn a doctors own, and they keep shouting we want equal pay...
Now base on the present salary scale for a physiotherapist, pharmacist or lzab scientist to earn dt 249000 of a fresh doctor you mst use atleast 10years in civil service, all wat johesu want is jst 20% of salary across CONHESS salary scale dtz all and NMA kip shouting equality. The issue of skipping is still there for doctors to enjoy and no Phyio, pharmacist is allow to reach the post of a Director in there own field till dey retire wat we get to is Deputy or Assistant Director.
Another issue is d issue of professional autonomy and specialty, I will leave dz 4 now....
no house officer is earning. 160k plus o especially in lagos, get your facts straight
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 6:18am On May 27, 2018
phase1:



Before you can touch any Johesu member, many greedy resident physicians will be members of kirikiri and Kuje. Physicians introduced strike into the health sector and have killed many patients starting from the military regime.

Your current minister of health also took part in the butchery as a leader of resident physicians. In saner climes it would have been scandalous to even consider him a nominee for a ministerial post.
You can't keep your right to strike
you dont get why NMA is pissed, do you? it is not the matter of the strike itself, afterall they have the right to strike. It is the fact that when doctors are striking, they dont drag JOHESU into their demands and negotiations, but when JOHESU is striking, they are busy comparing themselves with us. it is the greatest insult, and you guys expect NMA not to react?
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 6:24am On May 27, 2018
AlphaT1 let me demonstrate to you what i know will happen once JOHESU members are given consultancy. i saw this message written from a JOHESU group page.

*JOHESU.COM Discussions Activity*

*Need to brace up to do the NMAs jobs whenever they are on strike*

Dr Kelly Nwagha fpsn

11:48AM in General News & Information

We heard that the doctors are doing everyone's job at some hospitals. We should not worry as they have thrown the first stone. We will wait for them. Whenever they go on strike, we will also do their duties, which we are very capable of executing and excellently too, thanks to Pharm D. and consultancy status in other professional cadre, and refer surgical cases only to friendly healthcare facilities. If patent Medicines vendors prescribes and treats patients in their localities and make their money to build 1,2,3,4 attorney buildings, the Pharmacists are there to consult, prescribe and treat with better medicines as the only experts on medicines. The Optometrists are there to handle all eye challenges. The nurses would have to add to their curriculum Nurse practitioners course to enable them prescribe medications for patients. The Laboratory scientists are always there to assist with the diagnosis. The Radiographers are there as well. What s it that we don't have. The Physiotherapists nko? All on our side. Dental technicians are d people that do the work of the dentists and even do it better. Its only Surgical procedure only That we will refer as I said earlier. Period.

*copied*
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by olutop(m): 6:46am On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
no house officer is earning. 160k plus o especially in lagos, get your facts straight
.
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by olutop(m): 6:49am On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
no house officer is earning. 160k plus o especially in lagos, get your facts straight
In federal hospitals, houseofficers earn approx 165k it was recently adjusted to 175k, state hospitals normally pay 20k less same with interns pay dt is approx 120k but no adjustment was done nd still earn 20k lesser dn dt in state
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by phase1: 7:23am On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you dont get why NMA is pissed, do you? it is not the matter of the strike itself, afterall they have the right to strike. It is the fact that when doctors are striking, they dont drag JOHESU into their demands and negotiations, but when JOHESU is striking, they are busy comparing themselves with us. it is the greatest insult, and you guys expect NMA not to react?

Actually you dragged Johesu into your demands whenever you strike.
You sat with the minister of health and labor during your last strike action there and then determined how much Johesu should be paid without the input of any Johesu representative. How can you shave a man's head in his absence?
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by danilmo: 7:59am On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
AlphaT1 let me demonstrate to you what i know will happen once JOHESU members are given consultancy. i saw this message written from a JOHESU group page.

*JOHESU.COM Discussions Activity*

*Need to brace up to do the NMAs jobs whenever they are on strike*

Dr Kelly Nwagha fpsn

11:48AM in General News & Information

We heard that the doctors are doing everyone's job at some hospitals. We should not worry as they have thrown the first stone. We will wait for them. Whenever they go on strike, we will also do their duties, which we are very capable of executing and excellently too, thanks to Pharm D. and consultancy status in other professional cadre, and refer surgical cases only to friendly healthcare facilities. If patent Medicines vendors prescribes and treats patients in their localities and make their money to build 1,2,3,4 attorney buildings, the Pharmacists are there to consult, prescribe and treat with better medicines as the only experts on medicines. The Optometrists are there to handle all eye challenges. The nurses would have to add to their curriculum Nurse practitioners course to enable them prescribe medications for patients. The Laboratory scientists are always there to assist with the diagnosis. The Radiographers are there as well. What s it that we don't have. The Physiotherapists nko? All on our side. Dental technicians are d people that do the work of the dentists and even do it better. Its only Surgical procedure only That we will refer as I said earlier. Period.

*copied*

wow, so it actually it takes 7 different professional to carryout doctors work, wow

indirectly doctors are 7 in 1.. grin

even at that, all the above are just theory, wen patient comes, then let them practiclize the diagnose , like they think malaria and typhoid ll b the only reason patient come to hospital cheesy

such a deluded union...

beside, aside proper diagnose ,
I think they should also upgrade to have surgery johesuite too.

some should further their study study only
to O &G
Neurosurgery
cadiothoracic
some to nephrology
ENT etc. grin

such deluded being..
dead on arrival theory

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 8:05am On May 27, 2018
olutop:

You are correct for the pay during internship and housejob, lemme now breakdown the salary scale at the point of entry post NYSC for you, A physiotherapist earn 151000(25000 is the call allowance) a fresh doctor start with 249000(I knt say specifically wat d call allowance is) but all oda allowances are equal such as hazard and teaching as d case may be, d dff in dt salary scale is 64%, wat johesu want is 20% increament so awa salary can be 191000 wc is still 32% lesser dn a doctors own, and they keep shouting we want equal pay...
Now base on the present salary scale for a physiotherapist, pharmacist or lzab scientist to earn dt 249000 of a fresh doctor you mst use atleast 10years in civil service, all wat johesu want is jst 20% of salary across CONHESS salary scale dtz all and NMA kip shouting equality. The issue of skipping is still there for doctors to enjoy and no Phyio, pharmacist is allow to reach the post of a Director in there own field till dey retire wat we get to is Deputy or Assistant Director.
Another issue is d issue of professional autonomy and specialty, I will leave dz 4 now....
oh I see.I think both side should jus sort things out amicably sha by sitting both side down during d negotiation.emmm the 151000 and d 25000 u quoted are the separate or 25k is part of the 151000 also the oda allowances u mentioned .are they part of d 151000.thanks
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by AlphaT1(m): 9:52am On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
AlphaT1 let me demonstrate to you what i know will happen once JOHESU members are given consultancy. i saw this message written from a JOHESU group page.

*JOHESU.COM Discussions Activity*

*Need to brace up to do the NMAs jobs whenever they are on strike*

Dr Kelly Nwagha fpsn

11:48AM in General News & Information

We heard that the doctors are doing everyone's job at some hospitals. We should not worry as they have thrown the first stone. We will wait for them. Whenever they go on strike, we will also do their duties, which we are very capable of executing and excellently too, thanks to Pharm D. and consultancy status in other professional cadre, and refer surgical cases only to friendly healthcare facilities. If patent Medicines vendors prescribes and treats patients in their localities and make their money to build 1,2,3,4 attorney buildings, the Pharmacists are there to consult, prescribe and treat with better medicines as the only experts on medicines. The Optometrists are there to handle all eye challenges. The nurses would have to add to their curriculum Nurse practitioners course to enable them prescribe medications for patients. The Laboratory scientists are always there to assist with the diagnosis. The Radiographers are there as well. What s it that we don't have. The Physiotherapists nko? All on our side. Dental technicians are d people that do the work of the dentists and even do it better. Its only Surgical procedure only That we will refer as I said earlier. Period.

*copied*
Quoting someone who is making no reasonable point is no demonstration of any fact. Consultancy cadre for JOHESU has been in practice in Niger state for more than three years now and there has been no single case of patient confusion or a JOHESite pretending to be a doctor. I have well travelled and I have seen what is obtainable in other climes, i do not argue based on sentiment. Again, it's the govt dat would design d job description for d cadre and not JOHESU so an opinion of a sentimental JOHESite is a no demonstration of fact Likewise a sentimental opinion of a NMA member. These are mere ego-rooted opinions. Just like dat bias JOHESite opined that they can do d work of doctors, the same goes for the doctors who also say they can do the job of others-these kinds of myopic reasoning are found only in Nigeria and that is why we are where we are today with the worst health indices in the world. The healthcare system cannot improve with these kinds of stange practice alien to international best practice. I hope you are not one of those doctors that believe they are all-knowing and above errors/mistakes (it will limit ur growth if you are one). A humble house officer, for instance learns faster than those arrogant ones. Where you are not so sure of certain dosage, dosage form, strength or brand, the pharmacist is there to quickly help out. My cousin (F) who is asthmatic was prescribed cocodamol by a consultant O&G but on getting to d pharmacy, d pharmacist spotted ventolin inhaler and cocodamol tab on same prescription, he called d attention of the consultant who eventually changed it to celebrex. No human is all-knowing and no human is above errors no matter how intelligent you are, and committing an error does not reduce your intelligence. Two good heads are surely better than one. Team work gives better outcome, makes the work easier, faster and less stressful. This is d norm in saner climes.
You cannot continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
This was the kind of strange argument that NMA had put forward for years suppressing others to the rank of deputy director, no non-medical doctor was allowed to get to the peak of his/her career (director) that if you have other directors (like director of nursing services, director of pharm. services etc) it will confuse the patient with the Medical Director. JOHESU went to court and won the case just few yrs ago, now you have these directors in the hospitals, have you ever heard of patient being confused or any of the directors pretending to be the Medical Director?
You are probably not a civil servant, you would understand that there is almost no way that a pharmacist, for instance, would pretend to be a doctor in a public hospital setting and get away with it easily. Where is he going to consult from, his office? And with which folder? How is he going to admit? How is he going to get paid? How would he charge the patient? Even a first time patient would ask the gatemen where to go first not to talk of regular patients that know the procedure very well.
You mentioned rural settings, professions like MLS, pharmacist etc do not operate at primary healthcare level, you find them from secondary level (like general hospitals) which is also very organized with SOPs.

Just so you know, I have a postgraduate diploma in Leadership and Management in Health (USA) so I am not here to fight JOHESU vs NMA fight. If you need to know the standard world over, I would give you d design.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by olutop(m): 11:16am On May 27, 2018
ozo13:
oh I see.I think both side should jus sort things out amicably sha by sitting both side down during d negotiation.emmm the 151000 and d 25000 u quoted are the separate or 25k is part of the 151000 also the oda allowances u mentioned .are they part of d 151000.thanks
25k is part of the 151000
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 11:46am On May 27, 2018
AlphaT1:

Quoting someone who is making no reasonable point is no demonstration of any fact. Consultancy cadre for JOHESU has been in practice in Niger state for more than three years now and there has been no single case of patient confusion or a JOHESite pretending to be a doctor. I have well travelled and I have seen what is obtainable in other climes, i do not argue based on sentiment. Again, it's the govt dat would design d job description for d cadre and not JOHESU so an opinion of a sentimental JOHESite is a no demonstration of fact Likewise a sentimental opinion of a NMA member. These are mere ego-rooted opinions. Just like dat bias JOHESite opined that they can do d work of doctors, the same goes for the doctors who also say they can do the job of others-these kinds of myopic reasoning are found only in Nigeria and that is why we are where we are today with the worst health indices in the world. The healthcare system cannot improve with these kinds of stange practice alien to international best practice. I hope you are not one of those doctors that believe they are all-knowing and above errors/mistakes (it will limit ur growth if you are one). A humble house officer, for instance learns faster than those arrogant ones. Where you are not so sure of certain dosage, dosage form, strength or brand, the pharmacist is there to quickly help out. My cousin (F) who is asthmatic was prescribed cocodamol by a consultant O&G but on getting to d pharmacy, d pharmacist spotted ventolin inhaler and cocodamol tab on same prescription, he called d attention of the consultant who eventually changed it to celebrex. No human is all-knowing and no human is above errors no matter how intelligent you are, and committing an error does not reduce your intelligence. Two good heads are surely better than one. Team work gives better outcome, makes the work easier, faster and less stressful. This is d norm in saner climes.
You cannot continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
This was the kind of strange argument that NMA had put forward for years suppressing others to the rank of deputy director, no non-medical doctor was allowed to get to the peak of his/her career (director) that if you have other directors (like director of nursing services, director of pharm. services etc) it will confuse the patient with the Medical Director. JOHESU went to court and won the case just few yrs ago, now you have these directors in the hospitals, have you ever heard of patient being confused or any of the directors pretending to be the Medical Director?
You are probably not a civil servant, you would understand that there is almost no way that a pharmacist, for instance, would pretend to be a doctor in a public hospital setting and get away with it easily. Where is he going to consult from, his office? And with which folder? How is he going to admit? How is he going to get paid? How would he charge the patient? Even a first time patient would ask the gatemen where to go first not to talk of regular patients that know the procedure very well.
You mentioned rural settings, professions like MLS, pharmacist etc do not operate at primary healthcare level, you find them from secondary level (like general hospitals) which is also very organized with SOPs.

Just so you know, I have a postgraduate diploma in Leadership and Management in Health (USA) so I am not here to fight JOHESU vs NMA fight. If you need to know the standard world over, I would give you d design.
you still didn't point out where i insulted you. you are just here writing epistles that make no sense and still barking up irrelevancies like a rabid dog
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 11:51am On May 27, 2018
phase1:


Actually you dragged Johesu into your demands whenever you strike.
You sat with the minister of health and labor during your last strike action there and then determined how much Johesu should be paid without the input of any Johesu representative. How can you shave a man's head in his absence?

you JOHESUites should stop with this victim mentality, itwill be the end of you, we already know that there is trouble in the paradise that is JOHESU, and that the coalition of young nurses dont agree with everything you say, they abuse their superiors like touts also called the JOHESU chairman a fool. We also know they think they are the only relevant part of JOHESU. settle your internal issue first, before coming to compare yourselves with doctors
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 11:52am On May 27, 2018
danilmo:


wow, so it actually it takes 7 different professional to carryout doctors work, wow

indirectly doctors are 7 in 1.. grin

even at that, all the above are just theory, wen patient comes, then let them practiclize the diagnose , like they think malaria and typhoid ll b the only reason patient come to hospital cheesy

such a deluded union...

beside, aside proper diagnose ,
I think they should also upgrade to have surgery johesuite too.

some should further their study study only
to O &G
Neurosurgery
cadiothoracic
some to nephrology
ENT etc. grin

such deluded being..
dead on arrival theory
o sun mi o

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by sogodihno: 12:47pm On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you still didn't point out where i insulted you. you are just here writing epistles that make no sense and still barking up irrelevancies like a rabid dog

And comparing someone to a rabid dog, is what? a praise? you really have problem.
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by AlphaT1(m): 1:05pm On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you still didn't point out where i insulted you. you are just here writing epistles that make no sense and still barking up irrelevancies like a rabid dog

I just pity those unfortunate ones dat would subject themselves to ur type who are so full of themselves and cannot conduct themselves with decorum. I do not need to insult you to make my point. Those who have no meaningful thing to say only have insults as their way of escape. Not everyone on social media is a tout. I might be barking like a rabid dog but this barking has taken me to places beyond your imagination....

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Thanks18(m): 2:39pm On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you are obviously not living in nigeria, you are ignoring the elephant in the room that other healthcare workers are pretending to be doctors and patients are still dying. So yes, it is affecting patient care. You do not argue objectively at all. i am done. Good day
You have a problem but I can't really figure it out. Your comments scattered in all these threads since JOHESU industrial action are subjective to say the least, riddled with morbid fear and blind to one side of the divide. Your mind is already biased and closed up to reasoning and not worthy for any further engagement in this matter.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by phase1: 7:58pm On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you JOHESUites should stop with this victim mentality, itwill be the end of you, we already know that there is trouble in the paradise that is JOHESU, and that the coalition of young nurses dont agree with everything you say, they abuse their superiors like touts also called the JOHESU chairman a fool. We also know they think they are the only relevant part of JOHESU. settle your internal issue first, before coming to compare yourselves with doctors

You don't even sound lettered but read this....

'Med lab scientists were the only ones paid call allowance from 1976 to 1981 which made MLS the most paid hospital staff. A post NYSC graduate in admin/accounts was paid N345 per month, medical doctor was N350, while a med lab scientist was N545 because of the call duty. (It was N10 per call to a maximum of 20 units payable only to MLS). Call for medical doctors was introduced sometime in 1983 and it was N12 per call. This raised the take home pay of fresh medical doctors to N590 per month. This was the situation until 1991 when Prof Olikoye Ransom Kuti introduced MSS salary structure which led to severe crisis in the health sector. Several court judgements in favour of the Unions/AMLSN including SSAUTHRAI have not been implemented.'

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 8:54pm On May 27, 2018
phase1:


You don't even sound lettered but read this....

'Med lab scientists were the only ones paid call allowance from 1976 to 1981 which made MLS the most paid hospital staff. A post NYSC graduate in admin/accounts was paid N345 per month, medical doctor was N350, while a med lab scientist was N545 because of the call duty. (It was N10 per call to a maximum of 20 units payable only to MLS). Call for medical doctors was introduced sometime in 1983 and it was N12 per call. This raised the take home pay of fresh medical doctors to N590 per month. This was the situation until 1991 when Prof Olikoye Ransom Kuti introduced MSS salary structure which led to severe crisis in the health sector. Several court judgements in favour of the Unions/AMLSN including SSAUTHRAI have not been implemented.'

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you claim to be a scientist abi, quote your refrence. lol!! lab scientist and call allowance, those ones that sleep like the dead during call and nothing short of bomblast would wake them up, when doctors, nurses, pharmacists and orderlies are up at ungodly hours, you guys are dreaming of call allowance. gerrrarahia mehn! you dont have anything to contribute
Besides this your post is off topic.

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Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 27, 2018
Thanks18:

You have a problem but I can't really figure it out. Your comments scattered in all these threads since JOHESU industrial action are subjective to say the least, riddled with morbid fear and blind to one side of the divide. Your mind is already biased and closed up to reasoning and not worthy for any further engagement in this matter.
story story! pls stop being a waste of testosterone and say something relevant
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by Nobody: 9:06pm On May 27, 2018
AlphaT1:


I just pity those unfortunate ones dat would subject themselves to ur type who are so full of themselves and cannot conduct themselves with decorum. I do not need to insult you to make my point. Those who have no meaningful thing to say only have insults as their way of escape. Not everyone on social media is a tout. I might be barking like a rabid dog but this barking has taken me to places beyond your imagination....
you still didnt point out where i insulted you. you r looking for trouble where there is none. you are also myopic and narrow minded no matter how educated u claim to be
Re: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by phase1: 9:11pm On May 27, 2018
funmisticqueen:
you claim to be a scientist abi, quote your refrence. lol!! lab scientist and call allowance, those ones that sleep like the dead during call and nothing short of bomblast would wake them up, when doctors, nurses, pharmacists and orderlies are up at ungodly hours, you guys are dreaming of call allowance. gerrrarahia mehn! you dont have anything to contribute
Besides this your post is off topic.

You sound illiterate and demented, anyway in Nigeria any buffoon can be a physician as long the parent has connection and money. I know a former CMD in one of our teaching hospitals who smuggled all his academically challenged female kids into medical school. Paying lecturers to write exams for them and secretaries to fill course forms for them. The kids go late to school from home everyday even though they go with a hilux full of sirens-blaring police escorts everyday. How do you expect those kids not to be empty-skulled physicians like you when they graduate?

Go ask your superiors (the ones sincere enough )to tell you who started call duties first between Scientists and physicians in 1976?

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