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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 8:54pm On May 29, 2018
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 29, 2018
Riofidelio:
NO my brother! It's like she's feeling empty now after seeing that all those accusations are futile.Maturity really matters a lot in life,Mummy GO thought publicising Judas Iscariot's blunders since he's an Apostle of Jesus Christ is enough to rubbish Jesus' affirmation that only Christians(Jesus' followers) can be saved. embarassed embarassed embarassed
be replying ursef boy cheesy
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m):
Riofidelio:
NO my brother! It's like she's feeling empty now after seeing that all those accusations are futile.Maturity really matters a lot in life,Mummy GO thought publicising Judas Iscariot's blunders since he's an Apostle of Jesus Christ is enough to rubbish Jesus' affirmation that only Christians(Jesus' followers) can be saved. embarassed embarassed embarassed
I heard it the first time. Mummy is a shell of a woman who thinks Jesus could have handled Judas's situation a little bit better than he did. She felt slightly disappointed in Jesus's not stripping Judas bare publicly , LOL.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 10:33pm On May 29, 2018
salvation101:
be replying ursef boy cheesy
First, I was removethetubarn, then kolwole, and now Rio, Lol!!... Mummy Ode!
A Shell of a woman.. If you want to be sure how much confused you are, come to me Mummy, for I've gat your medicine.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:50pm On May 29, 2018
unbitchable:
First, I was removethetubarn, then kolwole, and now Rio, Lol!!... Mummy Ode!
A Shell of a woman.. If you want to be sure how much confused you are, come to me Mummy,for I've gat your medicine.
i my certain u r a Jw with another muniker in dis thread. Nd am also certain that ur a foolish sex offender and by God's grace, the laws of the land will catch up with you very soon. Whether ur society covers ur crime up or not. Waste bin of an individual. Tufia
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 11:25pm On May 29, 2018
salvation101:
i my certain u r a Jw with another muniker in dis thread. Nd am also certain that ur a foolish sex offender and by God's grace, the laws of the land will catch up with you very soon. Whether ur society covers ur crime up or not. Waste bin of an individual. Tufia
Read the first sentence of your English, How Hilarious!. Your hands & legs are already shaking without being touched yet.
That said, I have on my bed a space your body size, come along and lay while you wear my favourite perfume, Mummy gotta shake some legs for me 2nite . You! Mummy are a freak in the sheet.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:36pm On May 29, 2018
unbitchable:
Read the first sentence of your English, How Hilarious!. Your hands & legs are already shaking without me touching yet.
That said, I have on my bed a space your body size, come along and lay while you wear my favourite perfume. You! Mummy are a freak in the sheet.
keep making a fool of yourself, i see u r trying to distract me from the thread, well na to ignore you like kola. Wen u finish ranting alone like a mad fellow nd u no get reply, nobody go tell u say make u stop
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m):
Mummy, Not So Fast...
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m):
salvation101:
keep making a fool of yourself, i see u r trying to distract me from the thread, well na to ignore you like kola. Wen u finish ranting alone like a mad fellow nd u no get reply, nobody go tell u say make u stop
Don't be more paranoid, there is no distraction here, all you do is chase shadow which is chasing right back at you.
Go stand before a mirror, what do you see?, an empty soul, a soul without no substance.
No matter how hard you try fight it, I will always be ontop of you.
The greatest mistake of your life would be your comparing me with kola. I am light years ahead and the revival of your soul lies in my hands.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 6:03am On May 30, 2018
Riofidelio:
My brother, this one isn't interested in whatever the Bible has to say. His main concern is "stop preaching and teaching people about God's Kingdom" Any religious group that's not specific with their utterances is OK by him except Jehovah's witnesses who are hitting the nail on the head so nothing from the scriptures can move him!
The bible didn't say 99.9% of humans or billions of non jws will die because they refused to join a publishing company called watchtower. It was in your magazine I saw this and put it here for you to see.

You had to tie these figures you forged in your head to bible passages and yet it still didn't fit.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 6:06am On May 30, 2018
salvation101:
i my certain u r a Jw with another muniker in dis thread. Nd am also certain that ur a foolish sex offender and by God's grace, the laws of the land will catch up with you very soon. Whether ur society covers ur crime up or not. Waste bin of an individual. Tufia
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 6:06am On May 30, 2018
enimooko:
why, why, why, why....
1. Matthew 7:13-14 - On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent grin
2. John 5:28-30 NIV - Hope for dead earth's billions

The world are on red alert from GOD. Preach the same....
Continue justifying the gruesome murder of 99.9% humans AkA 8 billion non jws because they refused to join your publishing company called watchtower organization and refused to go from one house to another distributing paper.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:10am On May 30, 2018
Let them keep Deceiving demselves. 99.9% will be on satan side but God showed John something different in the book of Revelation. Shior
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:24am On May 30, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
The bible didn't say 99.9% of humans or billions of non jws will die because they refused to join a publishing company called watchtower. It was in your magazine I saw this and put it here for you to see.

You had to tie these figures you forged in your head to bible passages and yet it still didn't fit.
Jesus actually mentioned "Noah's day" to help you calculate the percentage of those that will perish my friend. So if you only read without meditation others do.I believe you have a calculator on your phone, you can think for once to know the percentage of those that perished in Noah's day. Because if all the population of the Earth by then is just 80,000 then the percentage is 99.99%! Of course the earth was much more than that, so if you're not using your brains God has given HIS Holy Spirit to those who will assist you! tongue tongue tongue
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:39am On May 30, 2018
salvation101:
Let them keep Deceiving demselves. 99.9% will be on satan side but God showed John something different in the book of Revelation. Shior
Mummy GO, that's why we need you on this thread to enlighten us ma, please let's consider John's revelations together perhaps the 99.9% assertion is wrong! Revelations 14:18-20 If Jesus' words is anything to consider,the deluge in Noah's day killed everyone except 8 persons i'm sorry ma perhaps the population of the Earth then wasn't up to 80,000. Please Mummy Jesus actually compared the coming destruction to what happened in Noah's day. Matthew 24:37-39
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 6:51am On May 30, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
The bible didn't say 99.9%; https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/billions_of_people_going_to_hell.htm - of humans or billions of non jws will die because they refused to join a publishing company called watchtower. It was in your magazine (how about David J. Stewart and how about S. Michael Houdmann?) I saw this and put it here for you to see.

You had to tie these figures - at Revelation 9:18 - you forged in your head to bible passages and yet it still didn't fit: https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/billions_of_people_going_to_hell.htm.
Charles E. Burch agrees with you

Luke 13:23, 24 - The first angle to the many versus few theory
Matthew 7:13-14 - The second angle: On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.999999999 percent
2. John 5:28-30 NIV - Hope for dead earth's billions

The world are on red alert from GOD. Preach the same....

Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 6:54am On May 30, 2018
salvation101:
Let them keep Deceiving demselves. 99.9% will be on satan side but God showed John something different in the book of Revelation. Shior
The Shior tho grin
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 6:57am On May 30, 2018
Riofidelio:
Jesus actually mentioned "Noah's day" to help you calculate the percentage of those that will perish my friend. So if you only read without meditation others do.I believe you have a calculator on your phone, you can think for once to know the percentage of those that perished in Noah's day. Because if all the population of the Earth by then is just 80,000 then the percentage is 99.99%! Of course the earth was much more than that, so if you're not using your brains God has given HIS Holy Spirit to those who will assist you! tongue tongue tongue
Jesus said Noah's day doesn't mean 99.9% of humans or 8 billion non jws will die because they refused to join a publishing company called watchtower organization and obey some 8 old men in new York.

Matthew 24:37 didn't say anything about joining an organization to survive like in the days of Noah. If you don't believe this non biblical doctrine you are considered an apostate and you are to be shunned.
The watchtower organization is even the apostate and anti Christ going against Jesus Christ words and the Bible to install themselves as the way, the truth and the life. Them don turn their organization and their leaders into Jesus Christ and the holy spirit. Lol
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:59am On May 30, 2018
What do you know about Jehovah’s Witnesses? Some people have called them Christian propagandists, a new Christian cult, a Christian sect influenced by Judaism, or fanatics who reject medical treatment. Actually, the Witnesses are none of these things. Why do some people think such things about them? Mostly because those people have been given wrong information.

As their name shows, Jehovah’s Witnesses are Witnesses for Jehovah. Who is Jehovah? Jehovah is the name that Almighty God gives to himself in the pages of the Bible.* It is a personal name, not a title like God or Lord. In a general sense, throughout history anyone who witnesses to God’s glory could be called a witness of Jehovah.—Exodus 3:13, 15; Isaiah 43:10.

Thus, the Bible, when listing a long line of faithful men of old starting with Abel, calls them “so great a cloud of witnesses.” (Hebrews 11:4; 12:1) Outstanding individuals, such as Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, and David, are listed as God’s witnesses—witnesses of Jehovah. Jesus Christ is called “the faithful and true witness.”—Revelation 3:14.

Why Witnesses Are Needed

The Bible says that man was created perfect and placed in a paradise. The Creator made him with the ability to live forever, to have children, and to extend the boundaries of his Paradise home worldwide. At that time man knew his God, and there was no need for witnesses.—Genesis 1:27, 28.

God endowed man with free will, but our first parents made a wrong decision. They chose to be independent of him. Hence, while God remains perfect, just, and pure, mankind on earth became sinful and unrighteous. Nevertheless, our holy God will allow sin and wickedness to continue only for a limited period of time. The Bible indicates that we are near the end of that divinely permitted time period. So that mankind can know these things, He has preserved His Word—the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel—down to our day.

Since most humans do not know God, he has commanded faithful humans to witness about him. To such faithful ones he says: “You are my witnesses.” (Isaiah 43:10) About the work they accomplish, he says: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations.”—Matthew 24:14.

Today, more people than ever before, from all races, languages, and nations, are honestly investigating God’s Word. They have found that many religious customs are of pagan origin and are displeasing to God.

As you may know, some have used religion for commercial purposes. Others have used it to further their political ends or to get rich at the expense of the poor. How do you think such religious profiteers react when a true witness about God is given? Obviously, they feel threatened. That is one reason why you may hear some speak evil of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Whatever the cost, Jehovah’s Witnesses adhere closely to the Bible. They have not invented a new religion. They merely follow what is written in the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel, which is the foundation of true religion. What, then, do they believe? Below are listed some of their teachings. Read and see whether these have the ring of truth or not.

No Trinity

The Bible does not teach the Trinity doctrine. Rather, it says that there is only one true and eternal God. “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 6:4) He is the Creator—eternal, almighty, without equal. Jesus is not Almighty God. Jesus lived on earth as a perfect man and died for imperfect mankind. God kindly accepted the life of Jesus as a ransom, and thus through him is the salvation of the faithful. This is God’s will.—Luke 22:42; Romans 5:12.

No Immortal Soul

What happens to people when they die? God’s Word says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) Man does not have an immortal soul. People who think they are talking to the dead are really communicating with demons. Similarly, prayers for the dead benefit no one except the clergy who are paid to utter them.

Resurrection

Man’s real hope is the resurrection, the coming forth of the dead to an earth restored to Paradise conditions. Those who have served God will be blessed for their faithfulness. Those who have died without finding God will have that opportunity then. Thus, “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) Only those whom God judges unworthy will not receive a resurrection.

No Hellfire

A loving God would not create a place where the dead suffer eternally. God himself described the burning and torturing of humans as “a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.”—Jeremiah 7:31.

No Fate

God does not write anything on the foreheads of people. There is no fate that determines our future before we are born. We are responsible for what we do, for the choices we make. “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”—Romans 14:12.

No Clergy Class

Everyone dedicated to God is equal in His eyes. True worshipers are all brothers and sisters. God did not appoint an elevated clergy class. Jesus said: “Everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted.” (Luke 18:14) God will judge adversely those who through religion elevate themselves over others.—Matthew 23:4-12.

No Idolatry

“God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24) True worshipers do not use idols.

Neutral in Politics

Jesus said his followers would be “no part of the world.” (John 17:16) Hence, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not interfere in national or local politics. Further, they are a law-abiding people.—Romans 13:1, 5-7.

High Moral Standards

Jesus described how to recognize true worshipers when he said: “This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you.” (John 15:12, 13) Another chapter in the Bible says: “The fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22, 23) Those manifesting these qualities do not lie, steal, gamble, abuse drugs, or commit sexual immorality. (Ephesians 4:25-28) They love God, so they avoid things that God hates. These principles govern the lives of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Approaching End of This World

What makes our time different from other times? Fulfillment of prophecy shows that we are living in the last days of this system of things, this world. (Daniel 2:44) Today, the issue is, Do the things we do please God? God is one, and there can be only one true religion. This religion cannot be out of harmony with the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. Hence, we must examine that Word.

That is what Jehovah’s Witnesses do. Whatever your religion, you need to do the same. Nobody can make a decision for you in this regard. Remember: “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”—Romans 14:12.

No individual is born a Witness of Jehovah. Every single Witness makes a personal decision. After making an honest search of God’s Word, the searcher recognizes truth, and on this basis he dedicates himself to the true God, whose name is Jehovah. If you would like to make a similar investigation, please write to one of the addresses below.

Unless otherwise indicated, all Bible quotations are from the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.


In the world of Islam, the Bible consists of the books known as the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. At least 64 verses of the Koran speak of these books as the Word of God and emphasize the need to read them and to carry out their commands. Some assert that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel have been changed. However, to say this is to ignore the words of the Koran and to say that God cannot preserve his Word.
1. If Jesus was resurrected as an invisible spirit, like the Watchtower teaches, why did Jesus say he was going to raise his physical body from the dead (John 2:19-22)?

2. If Jesus, the man, ceased to exist at his death and was raised from the dead as Michael the Archangel, why did Michael deceive the apostles into believing that they were witnessing Jesus in a resurrected physical body (Luke 24:39)?

3. If Jesus is now living in heaven as an invisible spirit creature, like the Watchtower teaches, why did Paul write many years after the ascension of Christ that he is dwelling in heaven in a physical body (Colossians 2:9)? Note: The Greek word, somatikos, means physical, tangible body.

4. If Jesus is now Michael the Archangel, why does 1 Timothy 2:5 say that the mediator between God and men is the man, Christ Jesus, and not the spirit, Michael the Archangel?

5. Can you show me a verse in the bible that clearly says Jesus is the Archangel Michael? How can Jesus be Michael since Hebrews chapter 1 stresses the superiority of Jesus over the angels and that all the angels worship him? Why would Jehovah command that the entire angelic realm worship another angel? Note: The Watchtower bible changes the word worship, in Hebrews 1:6, to “do obeisance to”. However, see section below on the New World Translation.

6. Since the Watchtower was wrong in the past about many of its teachings and the light continues to get brighter (Proverbs 4:18), how do you know that the current teachings are correct and won’t change?

7. Why did the Watchtower magazine (Nov 15, 1981, p. 21) say to “come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation” when Jesus never directed us to an organization for salvation but to him?

8. When you joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses, did you read information for and against the Watchtower so you could make an educated and well rounded decision based on both points of view?

9. Has anyone become a Jehovah’s Witness after reading the bible alone without the aid of Watchtower material?

10. If I were to join the Jehovah’s Witnesses, would it be okay for me to do research into the Watchtower’s past by reading non-Watchtower material?

11. Since the Watchtower was in error many times in the past, are you obligated to believe that all the current teachings are God’s truth?

12. If Jesus’ invisible presence began in 1914, like the Watchtower teaches, why was the Watchtower teaching in 1929 that Jesus’ invisible presence began in 1874? How did they finally figure out that that teaching was false?
Reference: Prophecy, 1929, p. 65.

13. Since the Watchtower claims to be God’s prophet ( The Watchtower , April 1, 1972, p. 197) and have falsely predicted Armageddon to occur in 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975, do you think they meet the criteria of Deuteronomy 18:20-22?

14. Can you show me in the bible where it says to give false prophets a second or third chance to get it right?

15. If the Watchtower really is Jehovah’s prophet, like they claim, can you show me anything they predicted that came to pass?

16. Why did Hebrews 1:6 in the 1970 version of the New World Translation say, “Let all God’s angels worship him” and not “do obeisance to him” like the new versions say?

17. Why does the New World Translation insert the word “other” four times into Colossians chapter 1 when it isn’t in the Greek manuscripts at all? Doesn’t this change the meaning of the text?

18. Why does the New World Translation place the comma in Luke 23:43 in a different location than it does every other time when Jesus says, “Truly I tell you”?

19. Can you show me a list of Greek scholars who approve of the New World Translation’s New Testament translation?

20. Can you show me a list of the people who were on the New World Translation Committee along with their credentials in the ancient Biblical languages?

21. If the Watchtower’s teaching that the 144,000 were filled in 1935 is correct, can you explain how Jesus, his apostles and their immediate followers couldn’t get 144,000 converts in 1800 years, but the Watchtower got 6 million converts in 125 years?

22. Why does the Watchtower teach that only 144,000 people are born-again when 1 John 5:1 says that everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God?

23. Why is there only one judgment period from God to test the endurance and worthiness of the 144,000 before they are guaranteed of eternal life, but the other sheep have to endure through this life, the 1000 year millennium plus pass an unknown final test before they are counted worthy of eternal life? Why is salvation so much easier for the 144,000?

24. If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are not part of the 144,000 with a heavenly hope, why does Jesus say in Matthew 8:11 that they will be in the kingdom of heaven?

25. According to Jesus in John 17:3, how many true Gods are there? Would you say that whatever is not true is false? Doesn’t the New World Translation call Jesus “a god” in John 1:1? Since there is only one true God and all others must be false, is Jesus a true God or a false god?

26. If Jesus was God’s Master Worker in creation, why does Jehovah say, in Isaiah 44:24, that He created all things by Himself?

27. If Jesus is a created being, why does he get twice as much worship, in Revelation 5:12, as Jehovah gets in Revelation 4:11?

28. If Jehovah created Jesus, why does John 1:3 say that all things came into existence through Jesus and apart from him not even one thing was made? Doesn’t this place Jesus outside the realm of created things?

29. If everlasting life comes by taking in knowledge (John 17:3), how long do I have to study with the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be assured that I have enough knowledge to live forever? 1 year? 5 years?

30. If we pay for our personal sins when we die, like the Watchtower teaches, how will the great crowd who survive Armageddon pay for their sins since they will never die but go right on living into the millennium?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:11am On May 30, 2018
enimooko:
Charles E. Burch agrees with you

Luke 13:23, 24 - The first angle to the many versus few theory
Matthew 7:13-14 - The second angle: On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.999999999 percent
2. John 5:28-30 NIV - Hope for dead earth's billions

The world are on red alert from GOD. Preach the same....
He didn't say his church is the way, the truth and the life the way your church claims. Seems it gives you joy for your jehovah to gruesomely murder 99.9% of people because they didn't join a publishing company called watchtower organization with headquarters in new York. So your imaginary new earth can appear. I love it when you guys continue justifying the greatest genocide known to man. You people have psychopathic thoughts. Your jehovah will slaughter people because they didn't do what he didn't mention in the Bible. Interesting.

You keep hammering on 99.999% and you leave out the side that says they get slaughtered because these 99.9% percent didn't join your publishing company called watchtower organization. You are ashamed of the reason these 99.9% die because it's not even in your Bible. You justify 99.9% getting slaughtered by your God yet ashamed to show the real reason for this mass murder.
Your jehovah is actually confused as some men in new York will tell him the people he should murder
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:16am On May 30, 2018
salvation101:
be replying ursef boy cheesy
Haaaaaaaaa Mummy GO has been silenced by Jehovah's witnesses! Perhaps you don't that Jehovah has promised US that any tongue that rises against US in the judgment shall be silenced.Isaiah 54:17 We are Jehovah's witnesses Ma,never try to dispute biblical topics with US because you'll be humbled no matter how heavy your self imposed religious title,before Jehovah's witnesses you're just a kindergarten student!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 7:19am On May 30, 2018
Fyi0:
1. If Jesus was resurrected as an invisible spirit, like the Watchtower teaches, why did Jesus say he was going to raise his physical body from the dead (John 2:19-22)? grin

2. If Jesus, the man, ceased to exist at his death and was raised from the dead as Michael the Archangel, why did Michael deceive the apostles into believing that they were witnessing Jesus in a resurrected physical body (Luke 24:39)? grin grin

3. If Jesus is now living in heaven as an invisible spirit creature, like the Watchtower teaches, why did Paul write many years after the ascension of Christ that he is dwelling in heaven in a physical body (Colossians 2:9)? Note: The Greek word, somatikos, means physical, tangible body. grin grin grin

4. If Jesus is now Michael the Archangel, why does 1 Timothy 2:5 say that the mediator between God and men is the man, Christ Jesus, and not the spirit, Michael the Archangel? grin grin grin grin

5. Can you show me a verse in the bible that clearly says Jesus is the Archangel Michael? How can Jesus be Michael since Hebrews chapter 1 stresses the superiority of Jesus over the angels and that all the angels worship him? Why would Jehovah command that the entire angelic realm worship another angel? Note: The Watchtower bible changes the word worship, in Hebrews 1:6, to “do obeisance to”. However, see section below on the New World Translation. grin grin grin grin grin

6. Since the Watchtower was wrong in the past about many of its teachings and the light continues to get brighter (Proverbs 4:18), how do you know that the current teachings are correct and won’t change? grin grin grin grin grin grin

7. Why did the Watchtower magazine (Nov 15, 1981, p. 21) say to “come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation” when Jesus never directed us to an organization for salvation but to him? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

8. When you joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses, did you read information for and against the Watchtower so you could make an educated and well rounded decision based on both points of view? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

9. Has anyone become a Jehovah’s Witness after reading the bible alone without the aid of Watchtower material? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

10. If I were to join the Jehovah’s Witnesses, would it be okay for me to do research into the Watchtower’s past by reading non-Watchtower material? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

11. Since the Watchtower was in error many times in the past, are you obligated to believe that all the current teachings are God’s truth? grin

12. If Jesus’ invisible presence began in 1914, like the Watchtower teaches, why was the Watchtower teaching in 1929 that Jesus’ invisible presence began in 1874? How did they finally figure out that that teaching was false?
Reference: Prophecy, 1929, p. 65. grin grin

13. Since the Watchtower claims to be God’s prophet ( The Watchtower , April 1, 1972, p. 197) and have falsely predicted Armageddon to occur in 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975, do you think they meet the criteria of Deuteronomy 18:20-22? grin grin grin

14. Can you show me in the bible where it says to give false prophets a second or third chance to get it right? grin grin grin grin

15. If the Watchtower really is Jehovah’s prophet, like they claim, can you show me anything they predicted that came to pass? grin grin grin grin grin

16. Why did Hebrews 1:6 in the 1970 version of the New World Translation say, “Let all God’s angels worship him” and not “do obeisance to him” like the new versions say? grin grin grin grin grin grin

17. Why does the New World Translation insert the word “other” four times into Colossians chapter 1 when it isn’t in the Greek manuscripts at all? Doesn’t this change the meaning of the text? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

18. Why does the New World Translation place the comma in Luke 23:43 in a different location than it does every other time when Jesus says, “Truly I tell you”? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

19. Can you show me a list of Greek scholars who approve of the New World Translation’s New Testament translation? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

20. Can you show me a list of the people who were on the New World Translation Committee along with their credentials in the ancient Biblical languages? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

21. If the Watchtower’s teaching that the 144,000 were filled in 1935 is correct, can you explain how Jesus, his apostles and their immediate followers couldn’t get 144,000 converts in 1800 years, but the Watchtower got 6 million converts in 125 years? grin

22. Why does the Watchtower teach that only 144,000 people are born-again when 1 John 5:1 says that everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God? grin grin

23. Why is there only one judgment period from God to test the endurance and worthiness of the 144,000 before they are guaranteed of eternal life, but the other sheep have to endure through this life, the 1000 year millennium plus pass an unknown final test before they are counted worthy of eternal life? Why is salvation so much easier for the 144,000? grin grin grin

24. If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are not part of the 144,000 with a heavenly hope, why does Jesus say in Matthew 8:11 that they will be in the kingdom of heaven? grin grin grin grin

25. According to Jesus in John 17:3, how many true Gods are there? Would you say that whatever is not true is false? Doesn’t the New World Translation call Jesus “a god” in John 1:1? Since there is only one true God and all others must be false, is Jesus a true God or a false god? grin grin grin grin grin

26. If Jesus was God’s Master Worker in creation, why does Jehovah say, in Isaiah 44:24, that He created all things by Himself? grin grin grin grin grin grin

27. If Jesus is a created being, why does he get twice as much worship, in Revelation 5:12, as Jehovah gets in Revelation 4:11? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

28. If Jehovah created Jesus, why does John 1:3 say that all things came into existence through Jesus and apart from him not even one thing was made? Doesn’t this place Jesus outside the realm of created things? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

29. If everlasting life comes by taking in knowledge (John 17:3), how long do I have to study with the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be assured that I have enough knowledge to live forever? 1 year? 5 years? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

30. If we pay for our personal sins when we die, like the Watchtower teaches, how will the great crowd who survive Armageddon pay for their sins since they will never die but go right on living into the millennium? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:22am On May 30, 2018
Riofidelio:
Mummy GO, that's why we need you on this thread to enlighten us ma, please let's consider John's revelations together perhaps the 99.9% assertion is wrong! Revelations 14:18-20 If Jesus' words is anything to consider,the deluge in Noah's day killed everyone except 8 persons i'm sorry ma perhaps the population of the Earth then wasn't up to 80,000. Please Mummy Jesus actually compared the coming destruction to what happened in Noah's day. Matthew 24:37-39
Daddy governing body protector, where did God say he will gruesomely murder 99.9% of people because they didn't join a publishing company called watchtower organization? I am waiting for your answer.

An organization will just determine the number their god will kill because these people refused to believe the Bible interpretation of 8 old men in new York and join the publishing company the head.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:24am On May 30, 2018
Riofidelio:
Haaaaaaaaa Mummy GO has been silenced by Jehovah's witnesses! Perhaps you don't that Jehovah has promised US that any tongue that rises against US in the judgment shall be silenced.Isaiah 54:17 We are Jehovah's witnesses Ma,never try to dispute biblical topics with US because you'll be humbled no matter how heavy your self imposed religious title,before Jehovah's witnesses you're just a kindergarten student!
silenced by bile and vulgarity? Is dat wat the goal is? Well u should know dat u can't silence me. Jehova gave u tongue for vulgarity? If removetheturban couldn't silence me, i don't see anyone of you here more intelligent than dat dude. Non even comes near
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 7:24am On May 30, 2018
[quote author=Fyi0 post=68006956][/quote]If God is omnipotent (all-powerful), why did he take six days to create everything? Why not speak everything into existence all at once?
Let's start things off right. What word is used for God during this 6 day creation? Perhaps one should first learn the terms used and then re-think what is really going on here. There are multiple Hebrew words used for God throughout the Bible. Why?
Why won’t God heal amputees?
Who's to say healing them is the right thing? Do you know how they became that way? Do you know the lessons they need to struggle through to grow? Growth comes through adversity. You grow through challenges.

If God is so perfect, then why did he create something so imperfect allowing pain, suffering and daily atrocities?

Why did the little old lady that God healed one Sunday need her walker to get around again next Sunday? Was she only temporarily worthy of a healing?
How did Noah fit the millions and millions of species on this planet into his ark?
It's a metaphor. It's a story.
If Noah did fit all of these species on the ark for forty days and forty nights, how did the penguins make it from Mt. Ararat to the Antarctic? How did the koala bears make it to Australia with no eucalyptus to eat along the way?
It's a story. What is the message being told?
Why do innocent children have to suffer with terminal diseases such as cancer? What part of ‘God’s plan’ is this exactly?

Why can’t the all-powerful God not forgive someone of their sins after they die? Example: A christian man that is seemingly on God’s good list makes a stupid decision and decides to drink a little too much at the fish fry. On his way home he crashes into a mini-van killing a mother and her two children and himself. This man led a very faithful life and made one stupid, yet grave mistake. If this man did not ask for forgiveness of his sins before the electrical activity in his brain ceased, then God will judge him and send him to hell to burn for eternity.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:26am On May 30, 2018
[quote author=enimooko post=68007375][/quote]When you cannot answer questions you begin to mock or curse the person who asked these questions.
You can't even justify your jehovah killing 99.9% of humans because they didn't join the literature distributing campaign of watchtower organization a publishing company.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 7:29am On May 30, 2018
[quote author=Fyi0 post=68006956][/quote]Questions for people who are ashamed of revealing the identity of their churches

1. If salvation is "solely by grace," why are not all people saved since "the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men" (Titus 2:11)?
2. Jn. 10:30 teaches that Jesus and the Father are one. But does this mean one person or a unity between persons? Does 1 Cor. 3:8 then mean that Paul and Apollos were one person? Does Eph. 5:31 mean that a husband and wife are one person? See also Gen. 11:6 and Jn. 17:21 for examples. Jn. 17:21 indicates that the "oneness" of the disciples was to be just like that between Jesus and the Father.
3. Since Acts 2:38 teaches that the baptism commanded is "for the remission of sins," is there any reason to believe that any other cases of water baptism were practiced for any other reason (e.g., Acts 10:48, 19:5)? [If so, where are the scriptures that indicate it?]
4. Since Acts 8:36-38 teaches that baptism is by immersion (i.e., "down into water" ... "up out of the water"wink, is there any reason to believe that any other cases of water baptism were practiced in a different way (e.g., Acts 2:41, 10:48, 16:15,33)?
5. Since Acts 2:4-11 teaches that when men spoke in tongues (i.e., "as the Spirit gave the utterance"wink, they spoke actual, understandable human languages, why believe that any other cases of tongue speaking were in languages which could not be understood (e.g., Acts 10:46, 19:6, 1 Cor. 12-14)?
6. Since all examples of miracles in the NT were definitive and clearly visible signs, wonders and powers [review them all to verify this], why apply the word miracle (in the biblical sense) to things that clearly do not fit that description today? God acts in the affairs of men today, but if these actions qualified as NT miracles, they would be impossible to deny (Jn. 11:47-53, Acts 4:13-22).
7. Since the miracles in the NT were for the purpose of confirming the newly-revealed word (Mk. 16:20), what new revelation (i.e., not in the New Testament) is being confirmed by miracles today?
8. If we cannot understand the bible alike, how are we to understand the confusion being generated by everyone claiming to speak under the influence of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 14:33)?
9. If someone receives the Holy Spirit when they are saved or at baptism, why did the Samaritans, who were saved, in Acts 8 not yet have the Holy Spirit?
10. Someone claiming to speak in tongues and heal, should also be able to drink deadly poison, be unaffected by the bites of poisonous snakes, and heal with 100% success.
11. 1 Cor 13:8-13: Whether Paul intended it or not, one cannot walk away from this illustration, without thinking that God was telling the Corinthians that the spiritual gifts belonged to a "childhood" stage in the church. Hence, spiritual gifts are not a sign of "spiritual elitism", rather they infer that something is missing or not yet complete.
12. Why do people look over their soldier for the catcher, just before they are slain in the Spirit?
13. If tongues is so centrally important, why is the gift of tongues not again mentioned after Acts 19:6 and the book of first Corinthians?
14. Why are Pentecostal healing revivals FULL of genuinely and undisputedly crippled wheelchair-ridden people who NEVER GET HEALEDhuh
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:30am On May 30, 2018
enimooko:
If God is omnipotent (all-powerful), why did he take six days to create everything? Why not speak everything into existence all at once?
Let's start things off right. What word is used for God during this 6 day creation? Perhaps one should first learn the terms used and then re-think what is really going on here. There are multiple Hebrew words used for God throughout the Bible. Why?
Why won’t God heal amputees?
Who's to say healing them is the right thing? Do you know how they became that way? Do you know the lessons they need to struggle through to grow? Growth comes through adversity. You grow through challenges.

If God is so perfect, then why did he create something so imperfect allowing pain, suffering and daily atrocities?

Why did the little old lady that God healed one Sunday need her walker to get around again next Sunday? Was she only temporarily worthy of a healing?
How did Noah fit the millions and millions of species on this planet into his ark?
It's a metaphor. It's a story.
If Noah did fit all of these species on the ark for forty days and forty nights, how did the penguins make it from Mt. Ararat to the Antarctic? How did the koala bears make it to Australia with no eucalyptus to eat along the way?
It's a story. What is the message being told?
Why do innocent children have to suffer with terminal diseases such as cancer? What part of ‘God’s plan’ is this exactly?

Why can’t the all-powerful God not forgive someone of their sins after they die? Example: A christian man that is seemingly on God’s good list makes a stupid decision and decides to drink a little too much at the fish fry. On his way home he crashes into a mini-van killing a mother and her two children and himself. This man led a very faithful life and made one stupid, yet grave mistake. If this man did not ask for forgiveness of his sins before the electrical activity in his brain ceased, then God will judge him and send him to hell to burn for eternity.
All these ones will not let you off the hook. Why will your jehovah kill 99.9% of humans because they didn't join a publishing company called watchtower organization and obey the rules of their leaders?
Why will you god murder over 8 billion people because they didn't choose a path he never mentioned in the Bible?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:32am On May 30, 2018
Riofidelio:
Mummy GO, that's why we need you on this thread to enlighten us ma, please let's consider John's revelations together perhaps the 99.9% assertion is wrong! Revelations 14:18-20 If Jesus' words is anything to consider,the deluge in Noah's day killed everyone except 8 persons i'm sorry ma perhaps the population of the Earth then wasn't up to 80,000. Please Mummy Jesus actually compared the coming destruction to what happened in Noah's day. Matthew 24:37-39
assumptions as usual. How about wen Jesus said two men shall be in d field, one will be taken and the other left. Is dat also 99.9%..u really are very bold to put words in the mouth of God. Why give figures and dats y u history is filled with ur several errors cos u want to go ahead of what God says
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 7:34am On May 30, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
When you cannot answer questions you begin to mock or curse the person who asked these questions.
You can't even justify your jehovah killing 99.9% of humans because they didn't join the literature distributing campaign of watchtower organization a publishing company.
...and your monikas post for that mata grin

so e pain u to just ask questions, how is asking questions mockery?





good thin u reveal ursef
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:36am On May 30, 2018
enimooko:
Questions for people who are ashamed of revealing the identity of their churches

1. If salvation is "solely by grace," why are not all people saved since "the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men" (Titus 2:11)?
2. Jn. 10:30 teaches that Jesus and the Father are one. But does this mean one person or a unity between persons? Does 1 Cor. 3:8 then mean that Paul and Apollos were one person? Does Eph. 5:31 mean that a husband and wife are one person? See also Gen. 11:6 and Jn. 17:21 for examples. Jn. 17:21 indicates that the "oneness" of the disciples was to be just like that between Jesus and the Father.
3. Since Acts 2:38 teaches that the baptism commanded is "for the remission of sins," is there any reason to believe that any other cases of water baptism were practiced for any other reason (e.g., Acts 10:48, 19:5)? [If so, where are the scriptures that indicate it?]
4. Since Acts 8:36-38 teaches that baptism is by immersion (i.e., "down into water" ... "up out of the water"wink, is there any reason to believe that any other cases of water baptism were practiced in a different way (e.g., Acts 2:41, 10:48, 16:15,33)?
5. Since Acts 2:4-11 teaches that when men spoke in tongues (i.e., "as the Spirit gave the utterance"wink, they spoke actual, understandable human languages, why believe that any other cases of tongue speaking were in languages which could not be understood (e.g., Acts 10:46, 19:6, 1 Cor. 12-14)?
6. Since all examples of miracles in the NT were definitive and clearly visible signs, wonders and powers [review them all to verify this], why apply the word miracle (in the biblical sense) to things that clearly do not fit that description today? God acts in the affairs of men today, but if these actions qualified as NT miracles, they would be impossible to deny (Jn. 11:47-53, Acts 4:13-22).
7. Since the miracles in the NT were for the purpose of confirming the newly-revealed word (Mk. 16:20), what new revelation (i.e., not in the New Testament) is being confirmed by miracles today?
8. If we cannot understand the bible alike, how are we to understand the confusion being generated by everyone claiming to speak under the influence of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 14:33)?
9. If someone receives the Holy Spirit when they are saved or at baptism, why did the Samaritans, who were saved, in Acts 8 not yet have the Holy Spirit?
10. Someone claiming to speak in tongues and heal, should also be able to drink deadly poison, be unaffected by the bites of poisonous snakes, and heal with 100% success.
11. 1 Cor 13:8-13: Whether Paul intended it or not, one cannot walk away from this illustration, without thinking that God was telling the Corinthians that the spiritual gifts belonged to a "childhood" stage in the church. Hence, spiritual gifts are not a sign of "spiritual elitism", rather they infer that something is missing or not yet complete.
12. Why do people look over their soldier for the catcher, just before they are slain in the Spirit?
13. If tongues is so centrally important, why is the gift of tongues not again mentioned after Acts 19:6 and the book of first Corinthians?
14. Why are Pentecostal healing revivals FULL of genuinely and undisputedly crippled wheelchair-ridden people who NEVER GET HEALEDhuh
Since you are proud of your organization, why will your jehovah gruesomely murder people for not joining a publishing company called watchtower organization and not following the words of 8 old men in new York who say they are uninspired and fallible and can make mistakes in doctrinal matters and err in organizational direction?

Why will your jehovah commit the greatest genocide known to man because people chose to do something never mentioned in the Bible?
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