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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 11:45pm On May 30, 2018
salvation101:
just wait, am coming with proof that you are unbitchable.
Unbitchable What?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Peacefullove: 11:58pm On May 30, 2018
achorladey:
Learn to read, assimilate people's comment before replying. The rush to respond will always lead to misquote and misdirection of their thought. "Sight and sound" palaver is not restricted to someone who just woke up one morning and go out on the street and say "Jesus spoke with him in the course of the night and therefore he has a calling". Am very sure Nutarious has a different meaning to "sight and sound" in that post. Feel free to ask.

Your opening words sounds like self appraisal rather than what others really know about you. Well learning about someone is not a day job.

This your latest post carries "balanced view" but you countered my own "balanced approached" in the course of our conversation initially. No problem!!!!

Balanced approach/view scenario loading........
If an individual C&S Celestial, Catholic, Anglican adherents were to read John 14:6 to you and added that he believes every word recorded in 2 Timothy 3:16,17 will you see such individual as a true Christian or a false Christian?


Balanced approach/view scenario loading........
If as a JW you read John 14:6 and added that you likewise believe every single word and letter in 2 Timothy 3:16,17, will you want the C&S, Catholic, Anglican adherents see you as a true Christian or a false Christian?

Total conformity palaver!!!!
You don't make any sense .

Catholics do not adhere to sola scriptura which many Protestant folks follow . a Catholic can believe John 14 vs 6 and still intercede through Mary believed as the mother of God , does it matter ?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:02am On May 31, 2018
achorladey:
Unbitchable What?
LMAO!!!!... She is getting burnt, Lol..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:03am On May 31, 2018
achorladey:
Unbitchable What?
i knew ursef and I av had confrontation in d past and dat was d first appearance of dis unbitchable from nowhere and started stalking me but God don catch you.. For the past two days I also check weneva dat moniker comments and I find both of u online, I use multiple munikers too so I know d drill. Ur cover is blown bro shame on you

Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:05am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
LMAO!!!!... She is getting burnt, Lol..
its quite a shame dat u aren't smart enough to cover your tracks. Checkmate mate!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:27am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
its quite a shame dat u aren't smart enough to cover your tracks. Checkmate mate!
I bet NO doctor has had a cure for your Ailments. Your case is stratospheric!.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:30am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
I bet NO doctor has had a cure for your Ailments. Your case is stratospheric!
Achorladey, you av been busted. grin grin
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:32am On May 31, 2018
Now i get it.. I think i also know d dude behind the kolawole muniker too....
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:33am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
Achorl.adey, you av been busted. grin grin
Stfu, No be only Akolade na Akolalo.
mummy ode!..That which torments you is right under your skirt... f00l
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:35am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
Stfu, No be only Akolade na Akolalo.
mummy ode!..That which torments you is right under your skirt... f00l
Achorladey u av been caught and u can't even deny it. Ur moves were very predictable. cry
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:36am On May 31, 2018
How can someone be this stupid. she lumps everyone up..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:39am On May 31, 2018
You just proved to the world the length you jws can go to... Sure deceit, such bile, such puerile attempts to silence the truth
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:43am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
Achorl.adey u av been caught and u can't even deny it. Ur moves were very predictable. cry
Mummy, Perhaps someone to make those legs shake 2nite.
what are you putting on for me?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:48am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
Mummy, Perhaps someone to make those legs shake 2nite.
what are you putting on for me?
Stale .... Achorladey.. Ur GB members are probably doing dat to ur wife, sis or daughter
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:53am On May 31, 2018
I was removethe turban, akolawole, Rio, and now, chorladey.. mtcheeww!. This babe too MuMu abeg, dragging everyone into her Mess. Can't deal.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 12:58am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
Stale .... Achorl.adey.. Ur GB members are probably doing dat to ur wife, sis or daughter
You know too well what your Daddy GOs do to you & other beloved sisters. but I won't be as wicked as your Daddy GOs, I would go gentle on you.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 1:04am On May 31, 2018
Weldone, hairyrapunzel, why didn't you say it here? why go on another thread to clarify?
Acorladey won't bother replying her because he knows she is on codein diet.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 1:08am On May 31, 2018
Everyone is her Nightmare.. keep getting burnt.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by unbitchable(m): 1:36am On May 31, 2018
enimooko:
THE NINE LIES OF TODAY’S CHURCH -by Andrew Strom.

-A call for massive ‘Reformation’ – before it is too late.

It is a sad fact that today’s church is deceiving itself in some very crucial areas. Below are some plain facts (-absolutely true) that may shock a few people:

1. “Ask Jesus into our heart” is not in the Bible. Neither is “Give your heart to the Lord”, or repeating a “sinner’s prayer”. These practices do not exist in Scripture at all. The subject of salvation is the most important subject in the Bible and we are being lied to about it. These doctrines are a total fabrication. They were invented to make salvation “quick and convenient”. Many church members today who are relying on these things are clearly not ‘saved’ at all.

2. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Only a backslidden church could fall so far away from the simplicity of the early church. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was basically when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” really took over. And we are still spending millions on these monuments today.

3. The “one pastor runs everything” model is totally unscriptural. Far from running everything, in the book of Acts we find the word “pastor” NOT EVEN USED ONCE. (-The early church did have strong leaders and elders. But it was never a “one man band” like we see today. And never was it so “controlling” either).

4. “Tithing” is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the New Testament we are told to give cheerfully – whatever we purpose in our hearts to give. Telling people that they MUST give 10% to the church or they are “robbing God” is totally sick – and a money-grubbing way of twisting Scripture. There is no evidence that the apostles EVER preached ‘tithing’ to New Testament believers. It was clearly regarded as an Old Testament practice.

5. The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only exist a couple of times in the entire New Testament. Yet greedy preachers have built whole kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammon” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles. But we don’t hear these things preached too much, do we?

6. There were no Bible Colleges, Seminaries or degrees in the New Testament. The only people who seemed to have “Bible Schools” were the Scribes and Pharisees! The apostles were simple fishermen and tax collectors. It is likely that a number of them could not even read or write. What was their “qualification” for being in the ministry? Simply that they had SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH JESUS. The fact that people expect a “professional clergy” today with degrees from Bible College has helped to make the church sicker and more unscriptural than ever. Simple humble people with a calling from God often cannot get to minister because they do not have a “piece of paper” to make them ‘qualified’. -Yet another disaster for the church.

7. There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “main meeting” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! There were no church buildings. They did not dress up and “go to church”. There were no denominations. There were no separate groups with different ‘labels’. They lived their lives together – all the Christians in the local area. Love and fellowship and ‘koinonia’ were as natural to them as breathing. And the apostles in Jerusalem preached every day at huge open-air gatherings. -Not “hidden away” inside four walls. This was truly a “street church” in every way.

8. The idea that you can replace the moving of the Holy Spirit with programs, programs and more programs just shows how low we have sunk. Man-made programs are everywhere today. The early church had much more of God and much less of ‘man’.

9. We preach a ‘humanistic’ Jesus today. -A Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness”. A Santa Claus who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us. A God of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offenses of the modern church. Today’s church seems to worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that she has made in her own image. What an offense to God.

A lot of preachers are well aware that there is something very wrong with the church today. They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord’. They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit. They know that it is just the same old “game” being played every week. A lot of them are very aware of this. But they will not do anything about it. They will not rock the boat. And they will “squash” anyone who comes along trying to do something. They do not want a real “shaking”. There is too much to lose. They have their careers and their little ‘kingdoms’ at stake. This is the real truth of the matter. This is where the rubber truly meets the road.

That is why God is about to bring “Great Reformation”. He will not put up with these ‘hirelings’ any longer. He will not have them as leaders over His people. A lot of them are about to “lose their heads”. They will never lead God’s people again.

This is what true ‘Reformation’ is all about. It is the process of replacing the old leadership and the old lies. -It is David taking over from ‘Saul’.

There is a ‘New Wineskin’ coming. In fact it is upon us. There is a new leadership arising – many of them trained in the ‘wilderness’ for such a time as this. The hour is now here. LET THE NEW LEADERS ARISE! The sad fact is that today’s church has sunk so low that it is almost a matter of people needing to be RESCUED OUT OF HER. I never thought I would say something as radical as that, but it is the truth.

Much of the church is living a lie. Many inside her are told continuously that they are “OK” – that they are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be further from the truth. Multitudes of them are headed directly for hell. The systemized LYING that is going on has deceived the leaders and the people alike. It is the blind leading the blind. We need to contend for these people – desperately. Much of the church is “lost”. They are mired in deception – an entire system of deception.

Kindest regards in Christ,

Andrew Strom.
https://ajtony./9-lies-of-the-modern-church/
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:23am On May 31, 2018
Riofidelio:
Good! So you either give more time for a free home Bible study with one of my brothers in your area so that you can spend more time together making the research. We're not only teaching people but directing them to the scriptures so that we can dig for the answers together or go and ask your Pastor,they're also teachers who makes earnings for livelihood from teaching the word so it's not compulsory your study mate must be one of Jehovah's witnesses after all it's the same Bible study! wink wink wink
Such a shame that you expertly avoided my questions on your false prophesies
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:40am On May 31, 2018
achorladey:
Learn to read, assimilate people's comment before replying. The rush to respond will always lead to misquote and misdirection of their thought. "Sight and sound" palaver is not restricted to someone who just woke up one morning and go out on the street and say "Jesus spoke with him in the course of the night and therefore he has a calling". Am very sure Nutarious has a different meaning to "sight and sound" in that post. Feel free to ask.

Your opening words sounds like self appraisal rather than what others really know about you. Well learning about someone is not a day job.

This your latest post carries "balanced view" but you countered my own "balanced approached" in the course of our conversation initially. No problem!!!!

Balanced approach/view scenario loading........
If an individual C&S Celestial, Catholic, Anglican adherents were to read John 14:6 to you and added that he believes every word recorded in 2 Timothy 3:16,17 will you see such individual as a true Christian or a false Christian?


Balanced approach/view scenario loading........
If as a JW you read John 14:6 and added that you likewise believe every single word and letter in 2 Timothy 3:16,17, will you want the C&S, Catholic, Anglican adherents see you as a true Christian or a false Christian?

Total conformity palaver!!!!
You're the one not stable in your thoughts! If you're a true Christian you should be able to stand before a Buddhist and say "this is how Christianity ought to be practiced" Every religion on this planet have a unique form of worship that makes the adherents recognize one another Buddhist, Muslims, Indus, Ifa, Obatala, Sango, Judaism etc all usually recognize their members by their Faith, how come Christians whose leader was a real historical figure with biography and life history was well documented for everyone to crosscheck can't be unified in worship? Well that's the reason why i buy the idea of the Jehovah's witnesses that as long as the form of worship and line of thought differs it's certainly not of the same Spirit Being(God)! The Bible confirms that there are many Lords and Gods,of course there must be ways to IDENTIFY those worshipping the same kind of deity.If those whose religious beliefs aren't documents in written form referred to as pagans can have a unified form of worship and doctrines it's a big shame on those who have all that it takes to do better!(Bible) 1Corinthians 1:10 Philippians 2:2 compared to 2Timothy 3:16,17 Jehovah's witnesses had all the confidence and effrontery to come out and make presentations of their religious beliefs, certainly whatever they're saying about the man from Nazareth is true because that's the same way He commissioned it from the onset. Matthew 10:3-26 28:19,20 Sorry i can't be EASILY convinced that every form of worship is Christianity simply because they're claiming to be Christians.Matthew 7:21-23 Thanks and God bless you!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:53am On May 31, 2018
Fyi0:
Such a shame that you expertly avoided my questions on your false prophesies
Shame on someone who told you to welcome his brothers living in your neighborhood for clearer understanding regarding his beliefs? Shame on someone who attempted to answer your questions despite not the appropriate place to do so? Shame on someone who's beliefs and convictions is well known to the extent you're able to ask 30 questions regarding his Faith whereas your own beliefs and doctrines remained anonymous? You're in fact making real sense, certainly it's a BIG SHAME on my globally recognized form of worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:35am On May 31, 2018
On a normal day we'll all play together, eat together, chat normally, dress modestly in fact everything we could just do the same way without thinking twice. But whenever it has to do with sacred matters, that's when we'll part ways! Jehovah's witnesses are just like everyone else, it's the seriousness or wholeheartedly dedication we have for our God that is making the difference. So we're not enemies as most people think, because if i'm standing before any of you without mentioning "Jehovah's witnesses" we all will relate easily. Once the organization's name is mentioned there is something like an alert making everyone to start thinking of what i believe! Whereas even if Buddhists, Indus, Muslims including those claiming Christians are around i will be singled out as having something totally different from everyone else. We're Jehovah's witnesses! friendly in your neighborhood, peaceful,harmless and always obedient to the superior authorities. Please if anyone has a complaint against US let him/her feel free to discuss with our people but hatred based on difference in beliefs can never be justified not in God's laws or that of men!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:38am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
I was removethe turban, akolawole, Rio, and now, chorladey.. mtcheeww!.
This babe too MuMu abeg, dragging everyone into her Mess. Can't deal.
u can only fool ursef, u can't fool me. I av proved dat you are achorladey already nd am convinced beyond reasonable doubt. Even ur stance in d discussion already gives u away dat ur a Jw grin. U were caught red-handed dis tym around
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:39am On May 31, 2018
unbitchable:
Weldone, hairyrapunzel, why didn't you say it here? why go on another thread to clarify?
Acorladey won't bother replying her because he knows she is on codein diet.
ur his mouthpiece shay? (other muniker grin).. U no dey wise sef.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:07am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
u can only fool ursef, u can't fool me. I av proved dat you are achorladey already nd am convinced beyond reasonable doubt. Even ur stance in d discussion already gives u away dat ur a Jw grin. U were caught red-handed dis tym around
I'm pleading with you to forgo all these arguments and exchange of bitter or hateful speech. If we all agreed that everyone claiming Christian is so no matter what they believe, i don't see any sense in battling with someone who holds a contrary opinion as long as he/she has not come pointing a gun at me to comply with what i'm not convinced of. Let's take it that Christianity could just be anything you and i want to believe so we can just explain to others who feels like knowing the reason for our Faith. God bless you!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 7:30am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
i knew ursef and I av had confrontation in d past and dat was d first appearance of dis unbitchable from nowhere and started stalking me but God don catch you.. For the past two days I also check weneva dat moniker comments and I find both of u online, I use multiple munikers too so I know d drill. Ur cover is blown bro shame on you
Since when has finding two monikers online an indication of both are for same person? Sorry you picked the wrong person. I am not "unbitchable", he told you so, believe his statement as true. My moniker has nothing to do with his.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:41am On May 31, 2018
Riofidelio:
I'm pleading with you to forgo all these arguments and exchange of bitter or hateful speech. If we all agreed that everyone claiming Christian is so no matter what they believe, i don't see any sense in battling with someone who holds a contrary opinion as long as he/she has not come pointing a gun at me to comply with what i'm not convinced of. Let's take it that Christianity could just be anything you and i want to believe so we can just explain to others who feels like knowing the reason for our Faith. God bless you!
but u didn't say anything about his vulgarity since he has been displaying it here, isn't dat double standard?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:43am On May 31, 2018
achorladey:
Since when has finding two monikers online an indication of both are for same person? Sorry you picked the wrong person. I am not "unbitchable", he told you so, believe his statement as true. My moniker has nothing to do with his.
i sent screenshot of our first encounter around January. We had an argument nd dat was d first time dat muniker showed up and started stalking me. Also on dis thread after u promised Emiooko of checking my message, d next moment d muniker showed up again
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:48am On May 31, 2018
achorladey:
Since when has finding two monikers online an indication of both are for same person? Sorry you picked the wrong person. I am not "unbitchable", he told you so, believe his statement as true. My moniker has nothing to do with his.
Oh you're welcome back my friend,please it's needless pointing accusing fingers at one another as we all believe we're trying our best regarding Faith. No matter the profile name anyone gives himself/herself can't change nothing, we're all nice people fighting for a beneficial course (Faith) but let's do so with love in as much as we're aware that other has gotten their own beliefs and the right to do so! God bless you.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:55am On May 31, 2018
salvation101:
but u didn't say anything about his vulgarity since he has been displaying it here, isn't dat double standard?
Every household has a bully to fight outsiders na,let's just agree that enimooko and unbitchable are just those brothers of mine who won't take shit from outsiders but i'm sure you can never recognize them if not because you say things they disliked about their Faith as they'll speak and do things nicely everywhere they go as befitting people having Faith. Thanks and God bless you!
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:02am On May 31, 2018
Riofidelio:
Shame on someone who told you to welcome his brothers living in your neighborhood for clearer understanding regarding his beliefs? Shame on someone who attempted to answer your questions despite not the appropriate place to do so? Shame on someone who's beliefs and convictions is well known to the extent you're able to ask 30 questions regarding his Faith whereas your own beliefs and doctrines remained anonymous? You're in fact making real sense, certainly it's a BIG SHAME on my globally recognized form of worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy
I agree with you right there that it is a very big shame on your organization.
I asked clear questions which you have up until now been unable to answer not even one of them.
I have always grown up having JWs as friends. I have a house full of "Awakes" and "Watch towers".
I always have welcomed JWs, what marvels me anyway is how they refuse to welcome others, such hypocrisy.

I always have asked these questions to members of your organization whenever they come visiting yet none of them have been able to give an answer to any of them. They stutter, run round circles and quickly vanish, just like you're doing now.
I didn't know that there was an appropriate place of answering questions pertaining to the faith.

Yeah, shame on a globally recognized form of worship that was declared extremist by the courts of law in Russia.
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