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Icon4s:
Did Iceland not play in Euro 2016?Even reaching the Quarter finals.

Which tournament has this Rohr assembled team play?

Shebi Iceland got to quarter finals of the Euro. Which tournament did they play before then?

I don't buy this big tournament thingy at all.

Humility017:
please stop trying to create excuses for that rohr ineptitude and cluelessness...
you have no point to start lingering....on..
so because we have not been assembled to play any tourney prior now is a justification for the team loss tonight?

I am not defending Rohr

You guys think to become a Super power in football is a one year's work?

I knew we were the underdogs going into that game. And I had always said it. I was just hoping our team could create an upset.

We are always having problems with our fullbacks. While won't Rohr play 3 at the back, there is something fishy somewhere.

Mickael2:
you see why I talk say the pig go turn bacon this night?

Pig wey dey for him farm for US dey snore for inside im sty.

Oga.. so many IFs o.

You are on point but there is one thing I can tell u for sure. You and I should be able to predict Rohr’s next lineup. Expect no surprises.

TheSuperNerd:
Firstly I will call out Rohr.

Rohr did make some silly decisions.

After we fell a goal down, you know we needed goals and you had a goalscorer on the bench in Iheanacho. Why wait till we conceded a second off an Ekong error before doing the needful. We needed more movements upfront... We needed a player who can shoot even with a half chance. Nacho came in and did more in those 20mins than what Ighalo offered throughout the time he was on.

To be fair, Ighalo did make some nice touches in the first half but mehn... He didn't threaten enough. We needed more menaching movement. Nacho came on and alongside Musa we saw some better urgency. Even Etebo at a point started outshining Odogwu Mikel.



To the errors....

1. Yes, Etebo cause us an own goal but it was really an unlucky event. It was hard on the young man. He was one of our best players on the pitch today and did almost everything right save for that costly error which was not deliberate.

How did it happen? He left the post he was supposed to guard and went in early to try stop a mandzukic header that was already going wide off the mark. If only he had been slow to react... But how was he to do that? What if he didn't react and the header went in... Won't we all still be calling him out for not charging his man down?? See? So I won't blame Etebo much coz he put in a string shift in midfield today and gets my nod to keep benching Onazi.

We should try clearing those aerial balls at first sight... And not allowing it to cause mayhem which can lead to mistakes within the 18 yard box. Balogun, Ekong and Mikel even Ndidi should be first to those aerials from set pieces with also about two of them super alert for second balls after first aerial challenges.

Set pieces was our biggest undoing today again but I saw a few improvements to have hope. But mehn... Iceland are set piece and long throw kings too... We will face hell on Wednesday trust me... A hell we must try walk out if unscathed. But I still stand by this team. It is not over yet.


2. The fear of conceding another set piece goal made Ekong wrestle Mandzukic to the ground and sadly the ref spotted it and viola, that was the moment we lost the game.
Ekong knew that he should have done better. It is sad. The boys matched the Croatians but were undone by two errors which killed off our chances... We cannot afford any more of those against the Might of the Vikings

It was always gonna be hard coming back against the Croatians from 2 goals down. This is a game we could have drawn or even won but that second goal killed our changes big time.
Just minutes before that second goal I was desperately hoping Rohr brings in an Ebuehi for Shehu, and Iheanacho for Ighalo. Etebo was still ballling and Mikel and Ndidi still gave us a fighting chance in midfield. We needed those changes to push our adventure further and try nick that goal to get back on level terms but lo and behold, it was not to be until another error buried us for good.
Nacho came in immediately after that goal went in but it was already too late. Etebo kept fighting... His driving runs, skills and ball winning saw us win more freekicks in midfield but we needed that killer touch upfront... Nacho did spark some fires upfront a bit with Musa but it was already too late.

I hope Rohr understands that with two games left, now is the time for rugged and brave decisions to salvage our World cup. We have the players to thrive in a formation that can hurt teams but our conservative approach by accomodatijg Ighalo's goal drought and Shehu's non-adventurous style is seriously holding us back. We need our very best... Not our most capped players in the WCQs... Our very best to get the job done is what we need.






[b]At least Rohr was brave enough on this one count to bench Onazi... But Rohr should have taken his bravery further by also realising that an Attack being led by Ighalo won't yield much goals compared to a twin attack led by both Nacho and Iwobi... See how quiet Iwobi was in the game save for a few moments he got on the ball and had his goalbound shot blocked. Iwobi didn't show up today as he did against England and Czech and we needed that Monster Iwobi version. Maybe the occasion overwhelmed him a bit.. His first world cup game but mehn.. Those Icelandic Norse lords didn't give a sh*t and gave their all. It will be hard against them... Really really hard. That is a tougher game than the Argentina game.

Also, Rohr should have gone with an Ebuehi but started Shehu. Now Shehu put in a decent shift but offensively he was as flat as a concrete floor. On few occasions when he joined the attack to offer us outlets of penetration, he was not adventurous enough. On two occasions he could have easily crossed or ran into the right channel as an overlapping fullback will do, he hesisaltated and chose to turn and pass... He was scared to cross and be adventurous. YOU DON'T WIN WC GAMES NY BEING TOO CAREFUL ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE TIMES FOR MAD ADVENTURE. I need Ebuehi in this team. We need results... No more time to honor or play loyalty or longevity. This is the time to honor and play THE BEST and MOST GOALS-ORIENTED EFFECTIVE Talents FOR EACH ROLE.[/b]


I will surely tip us to cause another twist in this group against Iceland but we (Rohr actually) must be brave in our selections and be ready to stand up against those giants called the Vikings and their defensive DOOR (Halldorsson).

I could say so much but fact is we have lost and it is time to move on to the next game. Whinning and lamenting for so long is for wimps.... We don't have much time. We must rise from this. After all, we are not out just yet. Our destiny in Russia still rests in our hands.


#SoarSuperEagles

Rohr is a blind man honestly

Lone striker will never work.
Not with Ighalo. Lone strikers are very good with the head. extremely good!

We don't even know how to attack. You see Moses trying to work things at the wings, because he's almost certain a cross will be wasted

If a lone striker is not very good with the head, he must have mad pace, e.g Vardy

Rohr got it wrong

It not really about how many defenders we use. We can't seem to score goals

This is how I would have set my team today If I was rohr
This is how my lineup will look like

Moses_____________ Iheanacho
___ ____ Iwobi

Etebo_______Mikel

_____ Ndidi

Idowu ___ Balogun__ Ekong. ___ Shehu/Ebuehi

A simple 3,5,2 would have saved us from losing the match, but what do i know? Rohr knows it all.

An Ighalo that has not scored in 6 matches, even in friendlies is expected to be the savior? half shot at goal from him we didn't see.

This man is too rigid to be a good coach.

Playing Iwobi as LW killed me, Mikel as AM?

Etebo playing as LW and Mikel partnering Ndidi would have saved our faces from this embarrassment.

Too bad we lost Moses Simon to injury, just too bad.

If the rigid coach likes, let him use the same deadwood Ighalo in the next match.

If he likes oh, he shouldn't use 3,5,2

Uzoho
Ekong, Balogun, Omeruo
Ebuehi, Mikel, Iwobi, Ndidi, Moses

Iheanacho, Simy

Or

Uzoho
Omeruo, Balogun, Ogu

Ebuehi, Mikel, Iwobi, Ndidi, Etebo

Iheanacho Moses

Iwobi in both formation should be higher up than the other 4 midfielders.

Simple!

Mujtahida:
Shebi Iceland got to quarter finals of the Euro. Which tournament did they play before then?

I don't buy this big tournament thingy at all.

See, there are always exceptions to certain things. But that tournament experience Iceland gathered from the Euros have helped them through the qualifiers and u saw how they played as a unit today.

I am not saying lack of Tournament experience is the only factor, it is one of the factors. I mean what kind of rubbish foul did Ekong commit there to give away that penalty? Why must he make that kind of error in a WC?

Icon4s:
That is the tournament experience I am talking about.

This Rohr's team as a unit does not have a tournament experience.

which Keshi's team played which tournament?

Team that Keshi turned upside down? How many players from the AFCON and Concede did Keshi take to World Cup? Most of us couldn't even recognize half the team when the 23-man list was released. If we had seen them prior to the World Cup, how come we couldn't recognise them?

Keshi's team did not have any tournament experience as a team. A few individuals yes, but a team? Big no

Icon4s:
I am not defending Rohr

You guys think to become a Super power in football is a one year's work?

I knew we were the underdogs going into that game. And I had always said it. I was just hoping our team could create an upset.

his tactics and player selection was poor....and that cost us this match...
had it been it was the other way round...even if we get to loose the guys would have still fought better like a lion

ChrisKels:
U know nothing about the goal keeping profession. He was moving to catch the ball but suddenly Etebo diverted it to the opposite direction and u wanna blame him?

That is a blatant cover up. Etebo did not change the direction of anything he only slowed it down and Uzoho just looked the ball into the net. If he had dived he makes the save.

somehow:
A simple 3,5,2 would have saved us from losing the match, but what do i know? Rohr knows it all.

An Ighalo that has not scored in 6 matches, even in friendlies is expected to be the savior? half shot at goal from him we didn't see.

This man is too rigid to be a good coach.

Playing Iwobi as LW killed me, Mikel as AM?

Etebo playing as LW and Mikel partnering Ndidi would have saved our faces from this embarrassment.

Too bad we lost Moses Simon to injury, just too bad.

If the rigid coach likes, let him use the same deadwood Ighalo in the next match.

If he likes oh, he shouldn't use 3,5,2

Uzoho
Ekong, Balogun, Omeruo
Ebuehi, Mikel, Iwobi, Ndidi, Moses

Iheanacho, Simy

Or

Uzoho
Omeruo, Balogun, Ogu

Ebuehi, Mikel, Iwobi, Ndidi, Etebo

Iheanacho Moses

Iwobi in both formation should be higher up than the other 4 midfielders.

Simple!

cc: Icons4
please sir pass this to rohr.....

ChrisKels:
Alright Euro is a big tourney, so what experience had Iceland before that Euro yet they did so well?

Help me ask them o, those making excuses for the team of lacking tournament experience are not fair at all. A team still having players who won afcon, played confed cup and 2014 world cup. Looks like some folks have forgotten that players like omeruo, mikel, Moses, onazi, echejiele, musa are in this team, which tournament experience do they lack for Christ sake

Has anyone noticed that Ekong doesn't jump/compete for balls during corners/setpiece either for us or against us?

When i talk 60min dem vex

Please no player is bigger than SE, if you making mo impact you need to be removed even if it 40th minute

Sentiment too much for here

Shout out to invaluable lady on this thread, if i could remember vividly she made it know moses na ....

In defense of the pig, we don't know what it predicted for group stage games

The pig only predicted a semi-finals spot for Nigeria. It did not say Nigeria will not lose a game at the group stage

Humility017:
cc: Icons4
please sir pass this to rohr.....

Don't mind that Man , he doesn't call a spade a spade too bias

Kai... see wetin I see o

goldfish80:
They want to make Shehu their escape goat. Very pathetic reasoning by people posing as analysts.

Ikr. I am asking for moments that he was exposed and they are speaking in riddles.

A mistake many coaches make is trusting strikers that are on a goal drought, because they come close to scoring in matches, but never really score

Steven Keshi did it with Emenike
Rohr is doing it with Ighalo

BascoVanVeli:
That is a blatant cover up. Etebo did not change the direction of anything he only slowed it down and Uzoho just looked the ball into the net. If he had dived he makes the save.

how many goalies save potential own goals?

What did Enyeama do when Yobo helped France score against us?

I have never seen a goalie save an own goal

Icon4s:
I am not defending Rohr

You guys think to become a Super power in football is a one year's work?

I knew we were the underdogs going into that game. And I had always said it. I was just hoping our team could create an upset.

any reasonable coach should have been able to draw sense from the friendlies....
he keeps repeating same mistakes...

what's the hope that he would have learn anything from.the tourney had it been there was any....

a man who never learns from his mistakes...

And now the hopes of 180 million people rest in the jowls of a pig.
How oddly pathetic.

TheSuperNerd:
True, this is the new generation's first major tournament as a team. It is indeed a factor but I won't use that to say "Okay then, let us lose all games and come home... It was our first major tournament after all and it is a heavy big baptism for us"....

No way! This team have it in them to fight and fight they must.

That is it! Lack of tournament experience is a factor.

However, the team needs to work hard to overcome it.

Rome was not built in a day.

Icon4s:
Keshi's team played 2013 AFCON and Confederations Cup.

Which Panama are you talking about? A debutante for this WC?

Did Algeria not part in AFCON before the WC?

This team under Rohr is taking part in its first tournament. It is not the sole reason we lost but it is also a factor.

Which team caused an upset in the 2014 world cup? Dat was the team I mistook for panama, so tell me the experience that team had before what they did in 2014.

Man stop it already, most of the Algerian 2014 team came few months before the world cup, Algeria had an imported team just like Morocco today. I even doubt Algeria played in South Africa 2013.

How many of Keshi's afcon winning squad made it to Brazil?

Icon4s:
See, there are always exceptions to certain things. But that tournament experience Iceland gathered from the Euros have helped them through the qualifiers and u saw how they played as a unit today.

I am not saying lack of Tournament experience is the only factor, it is one of the factors. I mean what kind of rubbish foul did Ekong commit there to give away that penalty? Why must he make that kind of error in a WC?

Oga forget tournament experience, na lack of tournament experience make moses and, mikel play rubbish today? Has iwobi not played in the champs league? Was ighalo not setting EPL on fire some seasons back with goals, which experience are you talking about?

I don't know why nobody wanna point it out but I will harp on it....

VICTOR Moses was very selfless today! (Yes he did go to ground too easily a few times and even blew a big short through pass chance created by Mikel but He did great for the team and tracked back like hell!)

He was good on the overall. He is one the players that gives me hope against Iceland.

Did anyone see where Rakitic tried to do a matuidi on Moses in that first half? Such evil plot! Thanks goodness Moses survived.

why are you guys excluding mikel from any blame. to be he is the chief culprit. ighalo can never function well if he is starved. mikel was too lazy going forward and dropping deep. rohr would have subbed him after the first half. his laziness made etebo and ndidi to over work themselves. he hardly hustle for the ball nor press when the opponent is trying to play out from the back. the defence line for me were rarely threatened that was why the croats had to rely of dead balls and croses. if rohr is man enough he should deploy the teams best formation which is playing three at the back or drop mikel from the first 11.for christ sake mikel dosnt have the lungs to run tro and fro as a number 10 is ought to do. so many times he was caught trecking when the team losses possession

TheSuperNerd:
Firstly I will call out Rohr.

Rohr did make some silly decisions.

After we fell a goal down, you know we needed goals and you had a goalscorer on the bench in Iheanacho. Why wait till we conceded a second off an Ekong error before doing the needful. We needed more movements upfront... We needed a player who can shoot even with a half chance. Nacho came in and did more in those 20mins than what Ighalo offered throughout the time he was on.

To be fair, Ighalo did make some nice touches in the first half but mehn... He didn't threaten enough. We needed more menaching movement. Nacho came on and alongside Musa we saw some better urgency. Even Etebo at a point started outshining Odogwu Mikel.



To the errors....

1. Yes, Etebo cause us an own goal but it was really an unlucky event. It was hard on the young man. He was one of our best players on the pitch today and did almost everything right save for that costly error which was not deliberate.

How did it happen? He left the post he was supposed to guard and went in early to try stop a mandzukic header that was already going wide off the mark. If only he had been slow to react... But how was he to do that? What if he didn't react and the header went in... Won't we all still be calling him out for not charging his man down?? See? So I won't blame Etebo much coz he put in a string shift in midfield today and gets my nod to keep benching Onazi.

We should try clearing those aerial balls at first sight... And not allowing it to cause mayhem which can lead to mistakes within the 18 yard box. Balogun, Ekong and Mikel even Ndidi should be first to those aerials from set pieces with also about two of them super alert for second balls after first aerial challenges.

Set pieces was our biggest undoing today again but I saw a few improvements to have hope. But mehn... Iceland are set piece and long throw kings too... We will face hell on Wednesday trust me... A hell we must try walk out if unscathed. But I still stand by this team. It is not over yet.


2. The fear of conceding another set piece goal made Ekong wrestle Mandzukic to the ground and sadly the ref spotted it and viola, that was the moment we lost the game.
Ekong knew that he should have done better. It is sad. The boys matched the Croatians but were undone by two errors which killed off our chances... We cannot afford any more of those against the Might of the Vikings

It was always gonna be hard coming back against the Croatians from 2 goals down. This is a game we could have drawn or even won but that second goal killed our changes big time.
Just minutes before that second goal I was desperately hoping Rohr brings in an Ebuehi for Shehu, and Iheanacho for Ighalo. Etebo was still ballling and Mikel and Ndidi still gave us a fighting chance in midfield. We needed those changes to push our adventure further and try nick that goal to get back on level terms but lo and behold, it was not to be until another error buried us for good.
Nacho came in immediately after that goal went in but it was already too late. Etebo kept fighting... His driving runs, skills and ball winning saw us win more freekicks in midfield but we needed that killer touch upfront... Nacho did spark some fires upfront a bit with Musa but it was already too late.

I hope Rohr understands that with two games left, now is the time for rugged and brave decisions to salvage our World cup. We have the players to thrive in a formation that can hurt teams but our conservative approach by accomodatijg Ighalo's goal drought and Shehu's non-adventurous style is seriously holding us back. We need our very best... Not our most capped players in the WCQs... Our very best to get the job done is what we need.






[b]At least Rohr was brave enough on this one count to bench Onazi... But Rohr should have taken his bravery further by also realising that an Attack being led by Ighalo won't yield much goals compared to a twin attack led by both Nacho and Iwobi... See how quiet Iwobi was in the game save for a few moments he got on the ball and had his goalbound shot blocked. Iwobi didn't show up today as he did against England and Czech and we needed that Monster Iwobi version. Maybe the occasion overwhelmed him a bit.. His first world cup game but mehn.. Those Icelandic Norse lords didn't give a sh*t and gave their all. It will be hard against them... Really really hard. That is a tougher game than the Argentina game.
Also, Rohr should have gone with an Ebuehi but started Shehu. Now Shehu put in a decent shift but offensively he was as flat as a concrete floor. On few occasions when he joined the attack to offer us outlets of penetration, he was not adventurous enough. On two occasions he could have easily crossed or ran into the right channel as an overlapping fullback will do, he hesisaltated and chose to turn and pass... He was scared to cross and be adventurous. YOU DON'T WIN WC GAMES NY BEING TOO CAREFUL ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE TIMES FOR MAD ADVENTURE. I need Ebuehi in this team. We need results... No more time to honor or play loyalty or longevity. This is the time to honor and play THE BEST and MOST GOALS-ORIENTED EFFECTIVE Talents FOR EACH ROLE.[/b]


I will surely tip us to cause another twist in this group against Iceland but we (Rohr actually) must be brave in our selections and be ready to stand up against those giants called the Vikings and their defensive DOOR (Halldorsson).

I could say so much but fact is we have lost and it is time to move on to the next game. Whinning and lamenting for so long is for wimps.... We don't have much time. We must rise from this. After all, we are not out just yet. Our destiny in Russia still rests in our hands.


#SoarSuperEagles

Lol.. I don already tie the pig. Remain to slaughter am. After the Iceland match he must enter my pot. Abi na 3 points we wan use take qualify?

safarigirl:
In defense of the pig, we don't know what it predicted for group stage games

The pig only predicted a semi-finals spot for Nigeria. It did not say Nigeria will not lose a game at the group stage

Eleniyan15:
Don't mind that Man , he doesn't call a spade a spade too bias

he is a very conservative person... I see him in same category with rohr...

Eleniyan15:

When i talk 60min dem vex

Please no player is bigger than SE, if you making mo impact you need to be removed even if it 40th minute

Sentiment too much for here

Shout out to invaluable lady on this thread, if i could remember vividly she made it know moses na ....

Etebo was one of the best things in that midfield. He made a mistake anyone could have made
No one is even blaming ekong for that foolish act