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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 12:03am On Jun 17, 2018
mank1234:

I don't engage in e-war.
How many successful pass? Very wlfe
How many diving? If he passed the ball we'll move forward and he'll have no reason to fake a fall.
How many successful crosses? Not much. You may say he didn't get much support from our RB.

In my opinion he was poor. You don't have right to ask if I'm ok. State why you disagree and move on.


I'm sorry for using the wrong word, moses was our only hope of getting something out of the match, and he was always discipline enough to know when to fall back
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:04am On Jun 17, 2018
When your full backs are poor and clueless.,there is nothing your wingers can do.

Shehu a full back that can not open up space to receive pass for crossing is that one a fullback?

Bascovanveli and Goldfish80, you guys are not honest with the truth. Shehu was below par. Even Idowu though not phenomenal improved on his game.

Why did you think Modric kept playing those long balls to his side. They knew Shehu was not just it.
He was caught out of position so many times. Not a single cross from him.

In short he was Echiejile on the right.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:04am On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:

Are you suggesting the missing link for Nigeria in this game was Ebuehi? Nawa for una oh

you're begging the question trying to create an easy route for yourself...
it's like you've no idea...how much role the lad would have played to help salvage the situation...if any of his offensive contributions would have birth goals...you don't know...but like rohr you choose think through the prism of impossibilities and fear....
you should direct your last sentence to yourself...because a broad and holistic reasoning would have prevented such words....

an Iwobi in the AM role and nancho upfront would have been more productive than the trash he served us in this match....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 12:05am On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Exactly Shehu clearly showed he deserved the nod but yet I am still waiting for someone to tell me what part of the match that he put a foot wrong.
We are not saying that he was very poor today, he was just average.
He offers nothing going forward as a right back and lacks pace, he was easily outpace on more than two occasions.especially when out of position.
Ebuehi is faster, is a threat going forward and also recovers faster than shehu when out of position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 12:06am On Jun 17, 2018
Sentiment go kill some people here today favouritism no go make this country move forward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:07am On Jun 17, 2018
Humility017:


you're begging the question trying to create an easy route for yourself...
it's like you've no idea...how much role the lad would have played to help salvage the situation...if any of his offensive contributions would have birth goals...you don't know...but like rohr you choose think through the prism of impossibilities and fear....
you should direct your last sentence to yourself...because a broad and holistic reasoning would have prevented such words....

an Iwobi in the AM role and nancho upfront would have been more productive than the trash he served us in this match....
Bros, I'm I like Ebuehi but this reasoning that Ebuehi would have salvaged the situation is too simplistic to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 12:08am On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Exactly Shehu clearly showed he deserved the nod but yet I am still waiting for someone to tell me what part of the match that he put a foot wrong.

He caused the corner was too slow therefore resulting to pressure from ekong. He was ball watching before he caused the ball. Shehu was a weak link abeg.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:09am On Jun 17, 2018
With Rohr it seems to be ride or die: I cannot change!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:09am On Jun 17, 2018
Mujtahida:

Bros, I'm I like Ebuehi but this reasoning that Ebuehi would have salvaged the situation is too simplistic to me.

he would have offered more offensively....
that's what I meant....
I don't buy the idea of sit back to defend...I believe in massive attack...had it been we really attack these crots with a 3-5-2 formation it would been better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 12:10am On Jun 17, 2018
I can imagine the number of NFF officials and naija jornalist at the Eagles camp. Enough bashing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 12:11am On Jun 17, 2018
Mikel Obi smh!!!
He was at a spot around that corner flag guess what he was doing

He was guiding the ball and two croatia player was with him and unfortunately he lost the ball because he was trying to dribble, come sense should have made him hit d ball on the player body lobatan and you win a free kick at worst throw


Shehu tried his best and he can't offer nothing much more than that, he made some good interceptions via leg and head.

Modric noticed shehu wasn't the best for that position so keeps loading the ball down persic wing

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:12am On Jun 17, 2018
Last last I blame Buhari. The man na bad luck. Una good night.

So long as Rohr continues to deploy Iwobi on the wings he will never get the best out of him

Though Marcus is dead his manhood lives on: and I believe in Marcus
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:13am On Jun 17, 2018
Eleniyan15:
Sentiment go kill some people here today favouritism no go make this country move forward
don't mind them....
I hate when peeps are not being truthful...
I told someone today when I was talking on Ighalo being unable to make the difference....
that I don't hate him...even from same state with Ighalo...but still the truth needs to be aired.... he is a very average striker with poor positioning...only good when we play Africa oppositions and he needs like 8 goal scoring opportunities to score a goal...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:14am On Jun 17, 2018
AIG07:
When your full backs are poor and clueless.,there is nothing your wingers can do.

Shehu a full back that can not open up space to receive pass for crossing is that one a fullback?

Bascovanveli and Goldfish80, you guys are not honest with the truth. Shehu was below par. Even Idowu though not phenomenal improved on his game.

Why did you think Modric kept playing those long balls to his side. They knew Shehu was not just it.
He was caught out of position so many times. Not a single cross from him.

In short he was Echiejile on the right.

Let me ask you a question, I would like if you gave a honest reply.
How good was Ndidi and Mikel in the middle, especially with their ball distribution? How good was Iwobi? These guys were responsible for Nigerias inability to launch a sustained attack worthy of breaching Croatia.
Why is nobody talking about Ekong's cheap penalty give away? Was the Croatian player going to score if he left him alone?
How about the 2 center backs positioning in the box when the first corner kick went in? Do you know, none of our defenders where in position to get the second ball off that corner?

We don't want to mention all these but the whole blame is on Shehu of course. This is the reflection of the Nigerian society, were the perceived weak and defenseless are targeted. Sad reality of our times.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:14am On Jun 17, 2018
chimzyblack:

We are not saying that he was very poor today, he was just average.
He offers nothing going forward as a right back and lacks pace, he was easily outpace on more than two occasions.especially when out of position.
Ebuehi is faster, is a threat going forward and also recovers faster than shehu when out of position.
It got to a time Moses was like Shehu move make I pass to you.

But did you know what Shehu kept doing.? He kept standing in front of Moses and staring at the ball.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:14am On Jun 17, 2018
Mujtahida:

So Shehu did not put a foot wrong but Uzoho did. Fear God oo, abeg fear God

Point it out I what I said
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:15am On Jun 17, 2018
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:16am On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Stop this u have seen keepers save own goals na, that's just like saying u never see keeper save penalty. The ball did not change trajectory he could have saved it if he dived but the boy froze plain and simple.
Are you joking?
An own goal is never expected. What's is it with Nigerians and pass the blame buck

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 12:17am On Jun 17, 2018
Humility017:

don't mind them....
I hate when peeps are not being truthful...
I told someone today when I was talking on Ighalo being unable to make the difference....
that I don't hate him...even from same state with Ighalo...but still the truth needs to be aired.... he is a very average striker with poor positioning...only good when we play Africa oppositions and he needs like 8 goal scoring opportunities to score a goal...


The back 4 and part of the middle played well but the AM/striker and wings cost us the game

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:19am On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:


Let me ask you a question, I would like if you gave a honest reply.
How good was Ndidi and Mikel in the middle, especially with their ball distribution? How good was Iwobi? These guys were responsible for Nigerias inability to launch a sustained attack worthy of breaching Croatia.
Why is nobody talking about Ekong's cheap penalty give away? Was the Croatian player going to score if he left him alone?
How about the 2 center backs positioning in the box when the first corner kick went in? Do you know, none of our defenders where in position to get the second ball off that corner?

We don't want to mention all these but the whole blame is on Shehu of course. This is the reflection of the Nigerian society, were the perceived weak and defenseless are targeted. Sad reality of our times.
hahaha why is Shehu weak and defense less? See something o.


On Ekong, I have pointed his error out. But he was busy trying to cover up for the same Shehu through out the game. No wonder he was stretched to the breaking point and he yielded.
He even turned Moses into a full back.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 12:19am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”




I don talk am!!!!! If Mikel can't play with Ndidi he should sit on the bench biko because there is no essence!!!!!!!



Mikel...Ndidi (double 4)

Wtf his he doing at AM position, Rohr is blind!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:20am On Jun 17, 2018
Eleniyan15:
Sentiment go kill some people here today favouritism no go make this country move forward

In Nigeria, everyone is the coach
Had it been we played 352 and lost....people will still abuse rohr
My only issue is that 433 isn't working for us....ighalo is too isolated and is cut off...
I highly doubt 442 will work either...while ighalo will have a strike partner, ndidi and Mikel (or Mikel and anybody) will really be outplayed in a two man central midfield)
Alas....352 was the best

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:21am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”
Even us wey no be coach don dey sing this song since last year- play Iwobi in the middle! Save for the Zambia match in Uyo, Iwobi has never, I repeat never been effective on the wings for Nigeria.

I said it immediately I saw the line up that anytime I see Iwobi on the wings I become sad because I know he will not play shingbai.

We are sabotaging our own players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:22am On Jun 17, 2018
Mujtahida:

Bros, I'm I like Ebuehi but this reasoning that Ebuehi would have salvaged the situation is too simplistic to me.
I'm still dazed how people would think Ebuehi would have been the messiah in this game. Shocking comments I've been reading this night.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:22am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”
Martz101 over to you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:24am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”
when I said rohr was not a smart coach...some peeps came for my head....

he deserve coach the likes of Madagascar because that's the best he deserves...so annoying his cluelessness gonna cost us good outing in this world cup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Citizenshelm: 12:24am On Jun 17, 2018
Watch the highlights Nigeria lost their opener to Croatia (2-0)

Nigeria lost their opener to Croatia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s8n66UWHc


Mynd44 Dominique Lalasticlala
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:25am On Jun 17, 2018
[quote author=Nedville post=68555983]

Compared to players from other countries....they simply don't come close.....its the truth

Iwobi...a player English arsenal fans are begging unai emery to offload due to obvious lack of progress.... is our most creative player...also an england reject

Moses......another England reject is dull and one directional....the Nigerian version of Antonio Valencia or Jesus navas....being Nigeria's best player....when he won't even smell the English team....who themselves are not even FAVOURITES to win the competition shows the kind of players on parade for the super eagles

Ndidi is the only consistent player on the list you mentioned....and even he doesn't perform well for Nigeria

I never heard of simy until the last few weeks before the end of the season...
So Iwobi and Victor Moses are England's rejects. Iwobi that is played out of position in Arsenal. I really don't see the need staging you in equivocals, sentiments will cover your eyes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:25am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:
From someone who once wore the shoe and knows where it pinches, Okocha ;


“It was a decent first half but maturity was the edge the Croatian team had over the Nigerian team,” Okocha said on SuperSport, where he was a guest analyst, after the game.

“The Super Eagles got done by the movements of the Croatian team in their box. The Super Eagles midfielders were not doing their best both in defending and in attack.

“Eagles didn’t get the best out of Alex Iwobi and Victor Moses because the manager was trying to accommodate Mikel Obi in the team.

“The manager didn’t earn his money today. We were not a threat in the first half and I was expecting him to play three at the back, five players in the midfield and two strikers to the team a chance to get back into the game.

“It is sad because I know we can do better than this. Of course there is still hope but we have to do it the hard way now.

“These (Croatians) are world class players who know how to win by exploiting little details.”
Okocha also blamed Rohr for deploying Mikel in the creative role.

“We didn’t have a creative player today,” the former Nigeria No.10 added. “Mikel has been a good servant to the national team. His best position is playing in front of the defence. We saw what he did playing for Chelsea where he had a glorious career.

“The most creative player in that team is Alex Iwobi but he was played on the flanks. He (Iwobi) can play on the flanks at Arsenal because they had better players in that role like Mesut Ozil.

“The reason why we lost was because we played our best players out of their positions.

“Playing Mikel in that position didn’t help Moses and Iwobi on the flanks.”
samething folks here have been talking about since time immemorial but Rohr no gree hear word. The man is so conservative that he started an ineligible player in a dead rubber game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:27am On Jun 17, 2018
AIG07:
hahaha why is Shehu weak and defense less? See something o.


On Ekong, I have pointed his error out. But he was busy trying to cover up for the same Shehu through out the game. No wonder he was stretched to the breaking point and he yielded.
He even turned Moses into a full back.
If he's not, why are you guys not calling out the big boys who flopped?

You really think Moses have no defensive responsibilities, especially tracking back to double team on Perisic, Croatias most dangerous player on the wings?
Why do you think Moses started on the right instead of the left where he has featured for the Super Eagles previously?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:28am On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:


Let me ask you a question, I would like if you gave a honest reply.
How good was Ndidi and Mikel in the middle, especially with their ball distribution? How good was Iwobi? These guys were responsible for Nigerias inability to launch a sustained attack worthy of breaching Croatia.
Why is nobody talking about Ekong's cheap penalty give away? Was the Croatian player going to score if he left him alone?
How about the 2 center backs positioning in the box when the first corner kick went in? Do you know, none of our defenders where in position to get the second ball off that corner?

We don't want to mention all these but the whole blame is on Shehu of course. This is the reflection of the Nigerian society, were the perceived weak and defenseless are targeted. Sad reality of our times.

From what I see....its simple...as an attacking unit...eagles are poor...and to add to that....you could say to an extent....most of the players contributed to that...from the keeper to ighalo (as an attacking unit...I said)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:29am On Jun 17, 2018
Eleniyan15:



The back 4 and part of the middle played well but the AM/striker and wings cost us the game
If I am a coach a player will never be my winger if he doesn't know how to cross like them old traditional wingers. I no dey for all this mumu inverted winger ish.

Nothing more dangerous than good crosses. It can even lead to own goal. Ask Morocco.

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