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SSGN:
These are strategic assets. Together with the JF-17. This is the underbelly of the Nigerian Air Force and will be the next sector for major upgrades.

EternalTruths:
When you defeat Boko Haram, then we will take your projections very serious.

Henry240:
Has the United States defeated the Taliban or Al Qaeda?

Okoroawusa:
That is done already


Just chill

SSGN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T38dCdtrA4

abraham1234:
Brahmos is a supersonic cruise missile not an icbm

Jkay187:
Hahahah you've got jokes. Come tell us more jokes when you actually own a 4th gen fighter atleast, otherwise stick to your third world F-7's and Alpha jets.

Henry240:
What's in the South-African Air Force?

SSGN is right, the only area South-Africa has a clear advantage over Nigeria is in front line fighter jets.

Henry240:
Has the United States defeated the Taliban or Al Qaeda?

EternalTruths:
When last did Taliban launched an attack.?

SSGN:
How is Britain the architect of Nigeria's mess?

Henry240:
They don't have an aircraft like the Tucano or a unit like the Nigerian Air Force Regiment.

There are areas where they are better than us, there are also areas were we are better than them.

I don't think the South-African Air Force has an advantage over the Nigerian Air Force. I agree for their navy, but not the Air Force.

docadams:
Not impossible. India of the early 80's couldn't even make a reliable Keke Napepe but today, it has sent a satellite to Mars in her first attempt, a world record. It also has the longest range ICBM - BrahMos.

SSGN:
The Brahmos is an antiship cruise missile jontly developed with Russia. But you re correct. The Brahmos is the fastest antiship cruise missile in the world. Who would have tought it possible a decade ago. If anyone had told you in 2010 Nigeria would operate armed drones you would have thought that person was a retard.

docadams:
Not impossible. India of the early 80's couldn't even make a reliable Keke Napepe but today, it has sent a satellite to Mars in her first attempt, a world record. It also has the longest range ICBM - BrahMos.

Jkay187:
The Tucano is a old 3rd world crop duster sold to 3rd world nations with insurgency problems its becoming a useless platform when you look at the proliferation of manpads.

You can try to fool these boys here with your nonsense but not me. SAAF has a big advantage when it comes to air power including attack capabilities currently. Nigeria don't even have a credible conventional strike capability nor even a AD system in it's arsenal to take on Uganda currently.

The day Nigeria can field a world class made in Nigeria AAM missile in its AF that's the day I will take you seriously.

SSGN:
Nigeria's national strategy is the very reason Nigeria has prioritized ISR/ISTAR platforms over 4th generation aircraft in the interim dude. attack drones, helicopter gunships, surveillance planes are of greater relevance today given the threat environment than a Squadron of new F-16's. Surely a country that acquires quite a number of attack drones and the continents most advanced ISTAR platforms can expand its combat aircraft fleet at anytime of its choosing. In times of austerity priority has to be made. You cannot modernize all classes of Air Force at the same time.

deomelo:

Another ignorant rubbish. They don't have F-16s in SA.

Or is it possible for SA to rent out F-16s that they don't have?

The fact that many of you love to run your mouth and let us know how much you hate Nigeria doesn't mean you hav e to do so with ignorance.

darqly:
I have no problem with NAF upgrading, it's long overdue and current chief of air staff is progressive. The question is why the zero sum game pronouncements? Why are we keen to overtake anyone, when we're not anywhere close to full combat capability? Let them run their race, let's run ours. Ethiopian airlines didn't set out to overtake Nigeria airways, have they not left the continent behind? Just an analogy.

darqly:
If you'd not been too hasty to show patriotic fervour, you'd have known that my inference to SA renting out hardware and mercenaries is clearly black market operations, not officially authorised.
Secondly, you can show your LOVE for Nigeria without being a jerk-off, they're not mutually exclusive. You counter every contrary opinion here with abuse where you can just share a more superior argument.

U.S. Navy SEALs often identify the very best technology and then trailblaze with it.

The SEALS spotted the potential of the Tucano and fought hard for it to be adopted to provide better close air support, transforming it into the Super Tucano.

The birth of the A-29B Super Tucano and an aircraft that would prove the SEALS right time and again downrange. It performed so well that the Super Tucano stable grew.

The Super Tucano is a great example of how Navy SEAL teams quietly revolutionize how tech is used to provide critical advantages. Thanks to their early adoption, innovations sometimes eventually make their way into hands of wider American forces equipping them with better advantages too.


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/09/01/seals-tucano-planes-and-more-than-3300-pounds-weapons.html

According to a source close to the program who declined to be named, the Navy has leased an EMB-314 Super Tucano for the job. Made by the Brazilian aerospace company Embraer, it is now being tested on desert ranges in California and the services top test facility at Patuxent River Naval Air Station, Md. The Navy loaded it up with sensors and weapons systems that would make an F-16 pilot blush, the source said.

With top end electro-optical and infrared sensors, laser and GPS-guided bombs, rockets, twin .50 cal. machine guns, encrypted radios and even the capability to tie in UAV surveillance feeds the Super Tucano outfitted for the SEALs is a ground-pounders angel from above.

https://www.military.com/defensetech/2009/07/21/secret-program-works-to-field-seal-plane

deomelo:
Tocanos according to you are crop dusters 3rd world countries with insurgency issues buy when in fact the best fighting and military force in the world, the US NAVY SEALS.




I see many ignorant folks on NL spew rubbish about the Tucanos and you sound like one of them, next time before you open your mouth, try google and read up on stuff before commenting.

darqly:
Whoever made the crop duster comparison must've really touched a raw nerve, seeing as you're attributing it to Everyone! Like I said, calm down, then share your view. My only reference to the Tucanos was their purchase, which was handled poorly by FG.

Randy91:
Idiots!!!


they are not even going anywhere near S/A come 2050 ...

shithole country,it's only during election periods,you begin to hear so many projections; D ....



Why nt kuku ma project that Naija ll become d world power come 2019


Ndi ara!!!!!

poseidon12:
Yeah right. We have to first provide the basic necessities like electricity, pipe-borne water and food. Nigeria is no match for South Africa. We should stop indulging in delusion.

deomelo:
You made bogus and ignorant comments so keep quiet and accept the correction in good faith.

Also, I did not discuss anything about Tucano purchase with you and if that's your new headache, it's still ignorant and misguided because it was a country to country purchase and the US government spelt out what they are selling us and what we requested and they also acknowledged the fact that they received payment from us and how much they received so what part of it was handled poorly apart from mischief makers, crooked and corrupt senate and middlemen the president cut out spewing ignorant nonsense all over the place.

SSGN:
Dreaming? I dont think so bro. The expansion of the Nigerian Air force is is expanding fast. The NAF has been left to rot for over two decades. Expansion and modernization will be a gradual process, but we are getting there already.

Largest attack helicopter gunship fleet in Sub Sahara Africa and 3rd largest overall after Egypt and Algeria. These are not average run of mil helicopters. Nearly half of Nigeria's helicopter gunship fleet will be the Mi-35M helicopter gunships. This is one of the most advanced attack helicopters in the world with night mission capability.

Biggest fleet of heavy lift transport planes. We talking about Five Hercules C-130 aircraft. Its complimented by a similar number of G-222 meduim transport aircraft.
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Largest and most advanced of ISR/ISTAR platforms in Africa currently. Two ATR-42 Maritime patrol. Four King Air 350i surveillance aircraft and of course drones. Nigeria operates a fleet of four CH-3 Rainbow attack drones. These drones are armed with the Ar-1 antitank missiles. A Chinese adaptation to the American Hellfire missile, but still capable.

The one area the Nigerian Air Force is lacking is in strike aircraft. Qualitatively and numerically Nigeria is pretty much deficient in this area. But this is more or less by design not be a lack of capacity. Should the NAF decide to upgrade its fleet of strike aircrafts there will be no sweat. If the three JF-17 Thunder slated for delivery proves to be a highly capable aircraft during testing and evaluation i see Nigeria acquiring a Squadron or more. Until then Nigeria has to make do with the assets on ground.

Henry240:
What about armed drones and surveillance systems, do they have that?

They don't have a good air defence system.

We have double the attack helicopters they have.

F-7 might not be 4 Generation, but it's not a dead beat either. We use the advanced PL-9C air to air missile.

Although the JF-17 hasn't come, but it is the same class and very similar capabilities to the Gripen, even though the Gripen is slightly better.

jln115:
So much ignorance here:

- NAF currently only has 11 Mi24......Thus it does not even have a larger AH fleet than SAAF, I will acknowledge that NAF has 10 more on order.

- Again this is wrong SAAF 9 C130(also more modern than NAFs C130) in inventory as well as 3 C212s and around 9 TurboDaks

- in this regard NAF has an advantage since our MPA consist of 80 year old TurboDaks

- As you said NAFs has 0 4+ gen strike capability