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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:48pm On Jun 17, 2018
I am not saying Rohr has to go but he must be blamed for the loss. Lack of a plan killed us. We never attacked them from any particular angle, the only thing we did was hold on to the ball. We have to establish a route no matter what. I also agree with Okocha without reservation. Honestly the fans and media cause all this, u talk about playing a player in a position he gets paid to play at club level and they are ready to cut your head off and when it blows up in their faces they start looking for whom to blame.
We should praise our heroes but also be ready to admit their shortcomings.
As for Rohr I feel there are ways we can be eliminated that should warrant looking at our coaching situation again.


Also we should come up with smarter ideas for set pieces. Obviously we can't head a football into the net so lets try to get free shots at goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:52pm On Jun 17, 2018
Ighalo's own came from the left but not uptop left... It was diagonally forward. It came from behind but from the left.

Balogun had one and it came from a corner. Off target it went.

I don't recall Ndidi having a go with his head.

But from Shehu's wing?!! With an attack in transition?
None... None!!! None!!!! And all because he was timid in becoming our extra outlet of attack down that right.

As a team we are to utilise every facet of our game. We have scored from cross and nod before... We can do so again especially down that right. The right is our stronghold because of Moses Victor but his supporting Fullback was not inventive or adventurous enough. So this is not a minor issue ooo... because we also speak of different approaches that can try fetch us goals and keep us on the ascendancy up front.

somehow:


Yes we did,.
Balogun had 2 headers, Ndidi also had 1 i think. Ighalo also had one. But they were useless. Cross and nod hasn't been our strong points since Rohr came in so what exactly are you guys talking about?

Like it was because of the crosses we didn't score or what? Go and watch the matches again.

Btw, i am not defending shehu, i am just getting you guys attention away from minor issues that wouldnt even help us. Go and check all my recent lineups and you wont find Shehu there. Just stating that the current lineups doesnt support crosses because there would be no one to make use of it and we arent that good in the air either.

Lastly, unless w strikers are used and Simy is included, all air balls will remain wasted. Tell me if Ighalo won more than 1 airball yesterday.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:54pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


We had plenty movement but Mikel held on to the ball and played sideways or backwards. I don't think he made a key forward pass the entire match

We had plenty of movement upfront. Na wa.

Did you watch Nacho's movement when he came on? Tell me Ighalo offered anything close to that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:55pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
I am not saying Rohr has to go but he must be blamed for the loss. Lack of a plan killed us. We never attacked them from any particular angle, the only thing we did was hold on to the ball. We have to establish a route no matter what. I also agree with Okocha without reservation. Honestly the fans and media cause all this, u talk about playing a player in a position he gets paid to play at club level and they are ready to cut your head off and when it blows up in their faces they start looking for whom to blame.
We should praise our heroes but also be ready to admit their shortcomings.
As for Rohr I feel there are ways we can be eliminated that should warrant looking at our coaching situation again.


Also we should come up with smarter ideas for set pieces. Obviously we can't head a football into the net so lets try to get free shots at goal

When Iheanacho came on, we were deadlier. Shifting the blame to Mikel when it is clear with more movement we would have caused the Croats more problems baffles me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neimar: 1:56pm On Jun 17, 2018
krattoss:
Neimar.. U have been viewing this thread since today, are u bereaved that we lost or are u feeding off our our griefs and teeth gnashing undecided

lol both.....overrated team
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:56pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Chaaaaaiiii... Marvellous Vasco... This is comment of yours is not so marvellous oooo... How can? sad

Mikel made some... But let me cite just one.

His pass to Moses which put him through on goal but Moses chose to try win a PK off the defender which failed.



But Moses had to beat his man. There were instances that Mikel had his man bombing and he didn't make the pass. Rarely a through ball
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:58pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


We had plenty of movement upfront. Na wa.

Did you watch Nacho's movement when he came on? Tell me Ighalo offered anything close to that.

How many times did Mikel find Nacho in the box with all his movements that you are talking?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:00pm On Jun 17, 2018
Moses was clean through but fell too easily when his marker came unto him... This was near or rather within the box ooo... That was a key forward pass.

Also, see another one... His forward pass to Idowu on the left when we were transiting to attack down the left... Should I name another?

The truth is Ighalo offered little menacing movements unlike Nacho.

BascoVanVeli:


But Moses had to beat his man. There were instances that Mikel had his man bombing and he didn't make the pass. Rarely a through ball

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 2:00pm On Jun 17, 2018
grin

I advise we lower our Expectation on this Team and hoping for a Miracle to happen against Iceland and Argentina.

There are lots to pick from the first Match;

1 - I want Rohr to be retained not sacked no matter the outcome of our performance in this Competition.

2 - This should Competition should be the last Appearance for Mikel, Akpeyi, Echiejile, Ighalo, Ogu, Shehu, Moses, Idowu, Onazi, Musa, Balogun and perhaps Ezenwa. They should retire from International Football honorably after this World Cup.

3 - Ebuehi and Aina should be our RB and LB respectively, then we can scout for their Backups.

4 - Nwakali Brothers, Tosin should be drafted as Midfielders. Eze, Oyenkuru, are needed as Wingers in the Squad.

5 - in the striking Position, only Kayode I hope he becomes an integral part of the Team.

My Post-World Cup List for the Eagles;

1 - Uzoho
2 - Ebuehi
3 - Aina
4 - Ndidi
5 - Ekong (C)
6 - Omeruo
7 - Moses Simon
8 - Etebo
9 - Kayode
10. Nwakali K.
11. Oyenkuru
12. Adarabioyo
13. Musa Muhammad
14. Iheanacho
15. Awaziem
16. Alampasu
17. Eze
18. Iwobi
19. Ryan Sanusi
20. Nwakali C.
21. Amuzie
22. Kehinde
23. Okoye


Mind you........ this is strictly a Suggestion, pls don't come for my Head, just wanna divert our Attention away from the Loss.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:01pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


When Iheanacho came on, we were deadlier. Shifting the blame to Mikel when it is clear with more movement we would have caused the Croats more problems baffles me.

Of course we would look deadlier the freakin match was over dude. Did any of that lead to a shot on target? No!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:01pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


How many times did Mikel find Nacho in the box with all his movements that you are talking?

Mikel must not find Nacho. What matters is the playing in a deadlier fashion. With Nacho's movement, the team played better. Not Mikel finding Nacho. Think of the overall game play and not one person finding a player. Also keep in mind Nacho did not stay long upfront for Mikel to utilize. However, Nacho's movement showed how deadly we can be with the right movement upfront.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:02pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Of course we would look deadlier the freakin match was over dude. Did any of that lead to a shot on target? No!

If Ighalo was still on and not Nacho, we would not look deadlier like we did when Nacho came on. Heck, when Simy came on, we lost our sharpness upfront.

Gerrit?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:04pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

I advise we lower our Expectation on this Team and hoping for a Miracle to happen against Iceland and Argentina.

There are lots to pick from the first Match;

1 - I want Rohr to be retained not sacked no matter the outcome of our performance in this Competition.

2 - This should Competition should be the last Appearance for Mikel, Akpeyi, Echiejile, Ighalo, Ogu, Shehu, Moses, Idowu, Onazi, Musa, Balogun and perhaps Ezenwa. They should retire from International Football honorably after this World Cup.

3 - Ebuehi and Aina should be our RB and LB respectively, then we can scout for their Backups.

4 - Nwakali Brothers, Tosin should be drafted as Midfielders. Eze, Oyenkuru, are needed as Wingers in the Squad.

5 - in the striking Position, only Kayode I hope he becomes an integral part of the Team.

My Post-World Cup List for the Eagles;

1 - Uzoho
2 - Ebuehi
3 - Aina
4 - Ndidi
5 - Ekong (C)
6 - Omeruo
7 - Moses Simon
8 - Etebo
9 - Kayode
10. Nwakali K.
11. Oyenkuru
12. Adarabioyo
13. Musa Muhammad
14. Iheanacho
15. Awaziem
16. Alampasu
17. Eze
18. Iwobi
19. Ryan Sanusi
20. Nwakali C.
21. Amuzie
22. Kehinde
23. Okoye


Mind you........ this is strictly a Suggestion, pls don't come for my Head, just wanna divert our Attention away from the Loss.

The honest truth is that Rohr is not a creative attacking coach. I do not think he is the answer to our problems. If he changes philosophy, I will route for him.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 2:08pm On Jun 17, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 2:08pm On Jun 17, 2018
After Moses Simon's injury, I expected Rohr to have ditched that wing formation. Since he could no longer call for replacement. Which was what Forgiveness was shouting about... On the quality of back ups that made the initial 30 man squad. But baba still de think se na play we wan go do for world cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:09pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Mikel must not find Nacho. What matters is the playing in a deadlier fashion. With Nacho's movement, the team played better. Not Mikel finding Nacho. Think of the overall game play and not one person finding a player. Also keep in mind Nacho did not stay long upfront for Mikel to utilize. However, Nacho's movement showed how deadly we can be with the right movement upfront.

So Mikel our AMF must not find our striker? Continue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 2:09pm On Jun 17, 2018
From Rohr post match comments I don't feel that this conservative and tactically inept coach is ready to change.
I was so angry after reading his post match comments. even his pre-match comments do not instill confidence in me as a fan talk more of the players.

I feel really sad, infact I'm still in pains.
If we lose to iceland I see no reason why he should be retained as the coach.
It should be win or get SACKED for Rohr against iceland. He can't be earning $50,000
every month and be giving us this rubbish.
I'M fed up

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 2:11pm On Jun 17, 2018
Humility017:
It seems the old coach still havent learn from his mistakes...always looking for an excuse to give for his incompetence

Rohr Explains Why He Didn't Employ 3-5-2 Formation Vs Croatia

Nigeria manager Gernot Rohr has explained why he played four at the back for the entirety of the Super Eagles 2-0 loss to Croatia, discarding the 3-5-2 formation that worked well for him, especially in the second half, during the pre-World Cup friendlies.

The former Bayern Munich defender has pointed out that the loss to the Balkans was not as a result of the formation but due to the inability of the team to defend set-pieces.

''I think the organization was okay, we didn't concede the goal in normal play, we conceded the two goals from set-pieces and it is not a question of tactics or system,'' Rohr said at the post-match press conference.
''Our system was okay, we cannot play with three (defenders) when there is only one center forward, so we played with four because they were three strikers and the Croatian strikers are very strong and I was satisfied about the organization of the team.
''What we are missing today is to be more professional with set-pieces to avoid the two goals coming from these situations.
''Each game is different, we know we can play with three center-backs but it was not a good day to do that today.''
Rohr added that the young players in the team, thought to be Oghenekaro Etebo and William Troost-Ekong, made mistakes which led to the two goals conceded by the Super Eagles.

''We are disappointed, when you lose a match it is not a good thing for us but we must recognize Croatia had the better team tonight.
''My young players made some mistakes especially from the corners we worked so much. The first goal came from a corner, the second one also from a corner, a penalty.

''There were also so many fouls in the other box that could have been a penalty for us. but we have to accept this defeat and now we have to win against Iceland.
''All is possible still because we have only one point to win to win against the two other teams. If we win the next game, all is possible for the qualification.''

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

source : ANS

Lame excuse.
Why must it be us choosing our formation to adapt to theirs? We should play to our strength and not play to match opposition.
The German team too is young and will do well so it's not a question of experience but will power.
This man failed when he started talking about 2022 during an important tournament in 2018. Defeatist mentality.
If the coach doesn't know what to say he should just say 'no comment'.

I was so angry yesterday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:11pm On Jun 17, 2018
sontoly:



I totally support you sir, and I dont know why the coach doesnt see it, the truth is Ighalo has more supporters than Iheanacho thats why no one sees his flaws.

Ighalo position skill is so poor, not good in air
poor decision making, give him ten chance he wont score one, infact you wont even find he to give a chance sef.
He is always with a defender and doesnt lose his marker, slow to react and we call that one a striker, we are deceiving ourself, it will take a miracle for him to score most of his shots are week. Abeg i don tire to see am for pitch, person wey get 5 goals since he started playing for us.
The only lethal striker is iheanacho unfortunately the coach no like am just same way he prefers shehu to ebuehi.
I dont have anyhope in rohr at all.

Ighalo not good enough.
the truth is ighalo can't give what he doesn't have I don't blame him for yesterday because the coach keeps playing him when he doesn't have the skill set for the lone striker position his movements and pace is just not good enough frankly speaking he should not be a starter

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

I advise we lower our Expectation on this Team and hoping for a Miracle to happen against Iceland and Argentina.

There are lots to pick from the first Match;

1 - I want Rohr to be retained not sacked no matter the outcome of our performance in this Competition.

2 - This should Competition should be the last Appearance for Mikel, Akpeyi, Echiejile, Ighalo, Ogu, Shehu, Moses, Idowu, Onazi, Musa, Balogun and perhaps Ezenwa. They should retire from International Football honorably after this World Cup.

3 - Ebuehi and Aina should be our RB and LB respectively, then we can scout for their Backups.

4 - Nwakali Brothers, Tosin should be drafted as Midfielders. Eze, Oyenkuru, are needed as Wingers in the Squad.

5 - in the striking Position, only Kayode I hope he becomes an integral part of the Team.

My Post-World Cup List for the Eagles;

1 - Uzoho
2 - Ebuehi
3 - Aina
4 - Ndidi
5 - Ekong (C)
6 - Omeruo
7 - Moses Simon
8 - Etebo
9 - Kayode
10. Nwakali K.
11. Oyenkuru
12. Adarabioyo
13. Musa Muhammad
14. Iheanacho
15. Awaziem
16. Alampasu
17. Eze
18. Iwobi
19. Ryan Sanusi
20. Nwakali C.
21. Amuzie
22. Kehinde
23. Okoye


Mind you........ this is strictly a Suggestion, pls don't come for my Head, just wanna divert our Attention away from the Loss.

Person never die, you don already dey plan autopsy?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:13pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


So Mikel our AMF must not find our striker? Continue

Where did you get that from?

I said our AMF was not the problem. The problem was poor movement up front. With Nacho, you could see how deadly we could be with more movement upfront. Also Nacho was not upfront long enough for Mikel to take advantage of his movement. That was why I found Mikel's sub for Simy confusing. It took away our sharpness.

Gerrit?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 2:13pm On Jun 17, 2018
Kolarov has done this several times before. Great goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:14pm On Jun 17, 2018
Kolarov!!!!!!
This is a tournament of set pieces.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:14pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


If Ighalo was still on and not Nacho, we would not look deadlier like we did when Nacho came on. Heck, when Simy came on, we lost our sharpness upfront.

Gerrit?

At 2-0 Croatia knows the game is over. Even England knew that by half time. All they have to do from that point is contain.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jun 17, 2018
chrisooblog:
the truth is ighalo can't give what he doesn't have I don't blame him for yesterday because the coach keeps playing him when he doesn't have the skill set for the lone striker position his movements and pace is just not good enough frankly speaking he should not be a starter

Ighalo should go home. We had 5-6 corners yesterday, a simy nwankwo could have at least knocked one down or set up a team mate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afam4eva(m): 2:15pm On Jun 17, 2018
You people are just being typical of what Nigerians are known for. Apportioning blame to the coach or some of the players like they even performed better than this in their previous fixtures.

Our problem is that, just like the English people, we always expect magic. The team is at best average and cannot give what they do not have. They played their best but lost the game to a superior Croatian team with star studded players.

It's not like we've not always had a team with above average players even during the USA 94 era, the only difference is that our midfield was fantastic. Today, our midfield even seems like the weakest link. How does an Ighalo score goals if he's not been fed. I have to say that Mikel's time in the super eagles is over because despite being our number 10, he holds the ball black and is slow in pace. convert Iwobi to a number 10 and give Moses serious warning about always falling. His dribbles in the wings do not yield any result. Whenever he gets the ball, he should cross it into the box 18 for our strikers to battle it out.

Another problem the team have is a lot of distraction. If they're not posing for the camera, they're dancing shaku shaku or taking a walk in the park. This people do not strain well. Even in their training, i don't see any atom of seriousness.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Where did you get that from?

I said our AMF was not the problem. The problem was poor movement up front. With Nacho, you could see how deadly we could be with more movement upfront. Also Nacho was not upfront long enough for Mikel to take advantage of his movement. That was why I found Mikel's sub for Simy confusing. It took away our sharpness.

Gerrit?

No u said Mikel doesn't have to find Iheanacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
KevinDein:
Kolarov has done this several times before. Great goal.


Great goal bros,nna that Serbia dey play ball ooo,dem go give brazil small wahala
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

I advise we lower our Expectation on this Team and hoping for a Miracle to happen against Iceland and Argentina.

There are lots to pick from the first Match;

1 - I want Rohr to be retained not sacked no matter the outcome of our performance in this Competition.

2 - This should Competition should be the last Appearance for Mikel, Akpeyi, Echiejile, Ighalo, Ogu, Shehu, Moses, Idowu, Onazi, Musa, Balogun and perhaps Ezenwa. They should retire from International Football honorably after this World Cup.

3 - Ebuehi and Aina should be our RB and LB respectively, then we can scout for their Backups.

4 - Nwakali Brothers, Tosin should be drafted as Midfielders. Eze, Oyenkuru, are needed as Wingers in the Squad.

5 - in the striking Position, only Kayode I hope he becomes an integral part of the Team.

My Post-World Cup List for the Eagles;

1 - Uzoho
2 - Ebuehi
3 - Aina
4 - Ndidi
5 - Ekong (C)
6 - Omeruo
7 - Moses Simon
8 - Etebo
9 - Kayode
10. Nwakali K.
11. Oyenkuru
12. Adarabioyo
13. Musa Muhammad
14. Iheanacho
15. Awaziem
16. Alampasu
17. Eze
18. Iwobi
19. Ryan Sanusi
20. Nwakali C.
21. Amuzie
22. Kehinde
23. Okoye


Mind you........ this is strictly a Suggestion, pls don't come for my Head, just wanna divert our Attention away from the Loss.

O boy chill fes. World Cup nova finish.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


No u said Mikel doesn't have to find Iheanacho.

Mikel must not find Nacho for us to be deadly. The criticism is that Mikel did not find Ighalo. But, without finding Nacho, we were deadlier. This shows that the AMF was not the problem but movement upfront.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 2:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
Serbia are a real dark horse in this World Cup. They look a very good team. Physically strong, tactically good and they do have very talented players in their ranks (Milinko-Savic is an elite midfielder in the making, already great).

This team will be very difficult to beat.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 2:19pm On Jun 17, 2018
mank1234:


Lame excuse.
Why must it be us choosing our formation to adapt to theirs? We should play to our strength and not play to match opposition.
The German team too is young and will do well so it's not a question of expert it will power.
This man failed when he started talking about 2022 during an important tournament in 2018. Defeatist mentality.
If the coach doesn't know what to say he should just say 'no comment'.

I was so angry yesterday.
Seriously, when I saw that comment about 2022 world cup, I was like WTF.

No super eagles team in the history of Nigerian football has had this kind of investment in terms of preparation, allowances and all, and here we have a coach talking of 2022 world cup.

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