WORDS IN ITSEKIRI ITS MEANING IN ENGLISH   YORUBA

Afoju  A blind person                  Yoruba    Afoju
Afere  Air, Wind, Breeze                    Yoruba    Afefe
Adan  Bats    Ada



Asisaso  Rags                    Yoruba   Akisa aso
Aso  Clothes of all types                    Yoruba   Aso



Atitan  Refuse Dump                   Yoruba   Etitan

Ekutele  Rat, Mice (all specie)                    Yoruba   Ekutele


Egungun  Fairy, Evil Spirit                      Yoruba    Egungun

Erin a.k.a. Yemeriko, Eni  Elephant                       Yoruba    Erin
Ekeregbe  Goats (all sexes and family)                     Yoruba   Ekeregbe

Eyen  Palm (used generally) including bunch of fruit                   Yoruba   Eye
Eligbo  Aged person (all sexes)                   Yoruba   Arogbo


Etu  (Animal) Antelope                   Yoruba   Etu
Ejen a.k.a. Isangi, Abaghari  Blood                    Yoruba     Eje


Iguru a.k.a Akala  Vulture                  Yoruba  Igugu


Ikoko  Cocoyam   ikoko



Ipere  Nails (all brands)                     Yoruba   Ipere(small snail)


Isu a.k.a. Orusun  Yam (all varieties)                    Yoruba    Isu

Obi  Kola nut (all species)                   Yoruba   Obi

Ogede (Ogede-Oyibo)  Banana (all varieties)                  Yoruba   Ogede


Oroli Roof top                   Yoruba   Ore ile
Origho  Head (Human) top (generally)                 Yoruba   Ori (oriwo(ondo state))

Ojiji  Shadow                    Yoruba   Ojiji

Omo-ojo (omojo)  Young snakes (all species)                  Yoruba   Omo ejo
Oron  World beyond, heaven, death                    Yoruba   oru
Ose  Soap (all brands)                    Yoruba   ose

  Ugba  Gourd/Calabash                     Yoruba   Egba

Uru  Tail, bottom                   Yoruba   eru
Uwan  Tongue                   Yoruba   awan







ITSEKIRI  ENGLISH    ( which is the same with the yorubas. )
1.Mene  One       
2.  Meji  Two
3.  Meta  Three
4.  Meren  Four
5.  Maru  Five
6.  Mefa  Six
7.  Meje  Seven
8.  Mejo  Eight
9.  Mesan  Nine
10.  Megwa  Ten

And?
You know some Igbo/Yoruba words are similar too. . . .
Politic status?

Ileke-IdI:

And?
You know some Igbo/Yoruba words are similar too. . . .
Politic status?

no there not and they dont have similar meaning either.

If you believe so name them and their meanings.

sbeezy8:

no there not and they dont have similar meaning either.

If you believe so name them and their meanings.

Are you serious, many Yoruba and Igbo words are similar.

Becomrich bring a picture of 'Olukwumi people' from the last 50 years, let us see.

okwuta and okwute

Ifife is breeze in igbo,enyi is elephant,ogede is plantain,ogede oyibo is banana,ewu is goat,gini also kini is what,oji is dark,ojiji also ijiji is darkness,atu is deer.nti is ear as against eti for yoruba,onu also enu or inu is mouth.

The truth is that both languages evolved from one proto language.

Abagworo:

Ifife is breeze in igbo,enyi is elephant,ogede is plantain,ogede oyibo is banana,ewu is goat,gini also kini is what,oji is dark,ojiji also ijiji is darkness,atu is deer.nti is ear as against eti for yoruba,onu also enu or inu is mouth.

The truth is that both languages evolved from one proto language.

O se n jare. Thanks.


And sjeezy there's a whole thread dedicated to that in the culture section

Try to read a book titled 'How Igbo and Yoruba became 2 languages'. It was written by one Yoruba professor.

You can also go to the culture section, i posted some extracts/examples from the book.

Abagworo:

Ifife is breeze in igbo,enyi is elephant,ogede is plantain,ogede oyibo is banana,ewu is goat,gini also kini is what,oji is dark,ojiji also ijiji is darkness,atu is deer.nti is ear as against eti for yoruba,onu also enu or inu is mouth.

The truth is that both languages evolved from one proto language.

Banana is Unele. There hasn't been any proto language linking the two languages found.

Ilaje people are in delta state. And they are yorubas. true.

becomrich4:

Ilaje people are in delta state. .

False! Ilaje people are in Ondo state and not Delta state.

there are ilaje in delta state/

ezeagu:

Banana is Unele. There hasn't been any proto language linking the two languages found.

There is a link between igbo and yoruba .they both belong to kwa group and were believed to separate in just a few thousand years ago.

Abagworo:

There is a link between igbo and yoruba .they both belong to kwa group and were believed to separate in just a few thousand years ago.

This is a theory, and there hasn't even been any serious investigation into the history of the area around the Niger, there are a few words similar may also mean that they influenced each other, there are similar words with other languages, they don't necessarily have to come from the same source, which I don't believe.

ezeagu:

This is a theory, and there hasn't even been any serious investigation into the history of the area around the Niger, there are a few words similar may also mean that they influenced each other, there are similar words with other languages, they don't necessarily have to come from the same source, which I don't believe.

What is striking about the possible shared words are that they are very corrupted yet you can still see some of the consonant structures still intact. Take 'ufufe' and 'afefe', or 'onye' and 'eniyan' for instance.

If they were mere influenced words, like 'okwute/okwuta' which stands for 'stone' in almost all southern Nigerian languages(iIgbo, Yoruba, urhobo, bini, etc) the corruption is much lesser.

I don't believe Igbo and Yoruba came from a single shared people. That's just thinking within colonial borders, the Yoruba share more in common with people in Benin and other countries to Nigeria's west and the Igbo are more similar to the Southern Cameroons. There's nothing in their archaeology that even looks similar, the Yoruba have some sort of cultural associations with the Nok people, carrying on in their art, Igbo don't. Both lands were settled at different times at locations that are at least 100 miles apart from each other. I believe that interaction has brought similarities in their language (slave trades, banished people, migrations) rather than coming from one entity.

Romance languages are for the most from Latin, and many of them can understand each other, Igbo people can hardly understand the different dialects.

The Yorubas didn't have much interaction with the Igbos during the slave trade era. Most of the returnee freed slaves who might have mingled were re-settled in Libreville and Freetown, not in Nigeria with the exception of a few Saros whose influence would have been insignificant.

The link between the Yorubas and Igbos had been the binis who served as middlemen in the exchange of cultures. Yet, there exists a number of shared words between Yoruba and Igbo that are non-existent in bini. A possible indication that there must be be some proto-language and distant relationship in the past since their current isolated locations make such impossible.

excanny:

The Yorubas didn't have much interaction with the Igbos during the slave trade era. Most of the returnee freed slaves who might have mingled were re-settled in Libreville and Freetown, not in Nigeria with the exception of a few Saros whose influence would have been insignificant.

The link between the Yorubas and Igbos had been the binis who served as middlemen in the exchange of cultures. Yet, there exists a number of shared words between Yoruba and Igbo that are non-existent in bini. A possible indication that there must be be some proto-language and distant relationship in the past since their current isolated locations  make such impossible.

I wasn't talking about the Atlantic slave trade, I was talking about all the slave trades happening before the Atlantic opened up. There have been population groups such as the Olukwumi who have migrated East and West. The Igbo and Yoruba definitely met, and this might be the reason for the Moremi-Igbo story, but even in this story the two groups aren't seen as one. There isn't even a hint of a common origin from both groups, most may just want to see one because they're thinking in terms of modern day Nigeria and its borders. The whole Kwa origin even includes Tiv people, which there's little to no similarity with.

With the Igbo and Yoruba, there's little to no similarity in governance, religion, art, customs, and other aspects.

ezeagu:

I wasn't talking about the Atlantic slave trade, I was talking about all the slave trades happening before the Atlantic opened up. There have been population groups such as the Olukwumi who have migrated East and West. The Igbo and Yoruba definitely met, and this might be the reason for the Moremi-Igbo story, but even in this story the two groups aren't seen as one. There isn't even a hint of a common origin from both groups, most may just want to see one because they're thinking in terms of modern day Nigeria and its borders. The whole Kwa origin even includes Tiv people, which there's little to no similarity with.

With the Igbo and Yoruba, there's little to no similarity in governance, religion, art, customs, and other aspects.

So you believe that the decision of Moremi, a Yoruba woman to marry the masqueraded Igbos in order to find out if they were spirits or humans was enough to share similar words when the contact the Igbos had with the Yorubas at this time was mostly in war times. How much time do you have to learn the language of your enemies before killing them in the battlefield?

It just doesn't add up.

excanny:

So you believe that the decision of Moremi, a Yoruba woman to marry the masqueraded Igbos in order to find out if they were spirits or humans was enough to share similar words when the contact the Igbos had with the Yorubas at this time was mostly in war times. How much time do you have to learn the language of your enemies before killing them in the battlefield?

It just doesn't add up.

You're making up what I said, the Moremi bit came after in the paragraph. What I said is that the Igbo and Yoruba have had contact, I never said it was only because of Moremi. How does a common ancestry add up when there's no similarity at all between the two groups apart from a few words?

Somehow, this thread has turned into another Yoruba/Igbo thread.
I swear, those two tribes needa. . . .


LOL!

Becoompoor nah wetin concern Delta peeps with this your wahala ehn? .

chic2pimp:

Becoompoor nah wetin concern Delta peeps with this your wahala ehn? .

Gbenu e soun!

Delta people and Yoruba ppl, a common nau

Ileke-IdI:

Somehow, this thread has turned into another Yoruba/Igbo thread.
I swear, those two tribes needa. . . .


LOL!

Not it hasn't people are trying to investigate if our languages our similar. Frankly, I do not think so. I see more similarities with Igbo and Ibibio than I do with Igbo and Yoruba. As a native Ibibio and Igbo speaker. . .

Ileke-IdI:

Gbenu e soun!

Delta people and Yoruba ppl, a common nau

Oya gbe enu e wa si be yii

Yes nau a common oooo. Especially e mi ati e.


P:S Becoomsodomised, ILaje is part of Ondo state not Delta state.

chic2pimp:

Oya gbe enu e wa si be yii

Yes nau a common oooo. Especially e mi ati e.


P:S Becoomsodomised, ILaje is part of Ondo state not Delta state.

I dont believe you're Deltan. You seem and act more Yoruba to me.

You gotta prove your Deltaness to me. . . emi ati e ko common rara. . . Olorun maje!

MaziUche0:

Not it hasn't people are trying to investigate if our languages our similar. Frankly, I do not think so. I see more similarities with Igbo and Ibibio than I do with Igbo and Yoruba. As a native Ibibio and Igbo speaker. . .

There are some similarities, just like in almost every language.

Me
Moi
Mi
M

etc.

But ofcourse, you're always ready to separate anything Yoruba and Igbo. Ibibio sounds nothing like Igbo, what similarities?

Ileke-IdI:

I dont believe you're Deltan. You seem and act more Yoruba to me.

You gotta prove your Deltaness to me. . . emi ati e ko common rara. . . Olorun maje!

Well you better believe I am . Being Bred in Lagos is the only reason I can think of in relation to me 'Acting like a Yoruba person'. But come ooo wetin be 'Act More Yoruba'? Do yoruba peeps behave any differently as opposed to other Nigerian ethnic groups?

How I go take proof that one nah? . . . . . . Does going on holidays to my Hometown of warri count or visiting the capital city of Asaba count?. . . . How about having Itsekiri,Urhobo,Ijaw and Delta Igbo family members?.

E mi ati e common jor

chic2pimp:

Well you better believe I am . Being Bred in Lagos is the only reason I can think of in relation to me 'Acting like a Yoruba person'. But come ooo wetin be 'Act More Yoruba'? Do yoruba peeps behave any differently as opposed to other Nigerian ethnic groups?

How I go take proof that one nah? . . . . . . Does going on holidays to my Hometown of warri count or visiting the capital city of Asaba count?. . . . How about having Itsekiri,Urhobo,Ijaw and Delta Igbo family members?.

E mi ati e common jor

Yes they do. . . we tend to joke a lot . . . . and Yoruba men, won ti like obirin ju. Like you, busayo leni, bola lola, Aina ni otunla Just jokig jare.

You can prove it nau. . . with pictures. . . .until then, you're omo Yoruba simi. Start with the secondary school pix.

Ileke-IdI:

Yes they do. . . we tend to joke a lot . . . . and Yoruba men, won ti like obirin ju. Like you, busayo leni, bola lola, Aina ni otunla Just jokig jare.

You can prove it nau. . . with pictures. . . .until then, you're omo Yoruba simi. Start with the secondary school pix.

Yorubas tend to joke a lot as opposed to other tribes who. . . . . . . .(oya complete that statement sharp sharp ). Well if dem no like women, nah who dem go like,Animals or their fellow men?

I willing to show you the pictures I took with MEND. . . . . . . . How my Secondary pix go prove anything? No be Lagos I dey go skool? Besides you wouldn't want to see what Boarding school did to me .

chic2pimp:

Yorubas tend to joke a lot as opposed to other tribes who. . . . . . . .(oya complete that statement sharp sharp ). Well if dem no like women, nah who dem go like,Animals or their fellow men?

I willing to show you the pictures I took with MEND. . . . . . . . How my Secondary pix go prove anything? No be Lagos I dey go skool? Besides you wouldn't want to see what Boarding school did to me .

LOL Ko n se nkan ti mo fe so niyen. Won ti feran obirin ju, awon laa ko iyawo marun sile, awon ni waa ni omo merindilogun lmao.

Why do you always do this to me?

kilode ti oo fe ki n ri aworan sec school e? mii ni rerin

Ileke-IdI:

LOL Ko n se nkan ti mo fe so niyen. Won ti feran obirin ju, awon laa ko iyawo marun sile, awon ni waa ni omo merindilogun lmao.

Why do you always do this to me?

kilode ti oo fe ki n ri aworan sec school e? mii ni rerin

Yes e mi feran obinrin just like every other red blooded male . Awon marun ati omo merindilogun ke? O fe pa mi ni yen?

Awwww oshi, o ro wi pe o le sun kun abi? . I fit do am pass you wahlai

Aworan skool mi is not for public viewing ooooo, . . . . . . . O ma re rin da da jor.

chic2pimp:

Yes e mi feran obinrin just like every other red blooded male . Awon marun ati omo merindilogun ke? O fe pa mi ni yen?

Awwww oshi, o ro wi pe o le sun kun abi? . I fit do am pass you wahlai

Aworan skool mi is not for public viewing ooooo, . . . . . . . O ma re rin da da jor.

ohhh, so, emi ni public view abi?

se o ti bu mi tan?